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Babs
February 19th, 2015, 01:35 AM
I wasn't sure where to put this. This is probably the best suited forum section.
Perhaps there have been a thousand threads like this before but I have some specific questions.
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

My answers:
1. Given the size of the universe, yes. We've discovered many potentially habitable planets in our galaxy and we've barely scratched the surface.
2. No. That reason is because if an alien was observing earth, say 10,000,000 light years away, it would see what was happening 10,000,000 years ago because of how long it took for light to travel there, and they would have no way of knowing that intelligent life would develope. Likewise, aliens with extremely advanced technology probably have no interest in such an immature society.
3. Probably not, because earth probably isn't that special, and for similar reasons as above.
4. Absolutely not. While it's possible that we could contact pacifists, it's also very likely that we meet a hostile race. Or perhaps we have too many differences and they could choose to fight us because of them, if that makes any sense.

Paladino
February 19th, 2015, 05:04 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?

Yes, because of something my Science teacher told me back in the days of High School, he said the universe is too big for there not to be any other life, It just seems quite strange to even think there is nothing else out there apart from us when there is billions upon billions of planets and billions of planets like earth! Ever heard the saying "We are either alone in the universe or there are others out there, each is equally terrifying" When you think of that it feels quite creepy.

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?

No, All this shit about Area 51 harbouring aliens annoys me, if the earth had been visited by aliens multiple times as some scientists & crazy people who claim to have seen them suggest, would they really ALL have only went to the 'almighty' USA, you never ever see a documentary where a Russian person claims to have seen an alien ship land, it's always Americans.

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?

Maybe one day, but if we are, it means they are already so so so much more technologically advanced than us which means be afraid, very afraid because we don't know if they are going to be nice or try to kill us all.

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

If they were to make contact with us we would need to be wary because the way our technology is at the moment we would never in a million years be able to reach another planet which could harbour life, so it would mean they would have to come to us & referring back to number 3 it would make them more advanced than us and more likely to be able to fuck us up.

dirtyboxer55
February 19th, 2015, 05:16 AM
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?

No, All this shit about Area 51 harbouring aliens annoys me, if the earth had been visited by aliens multiple times as some scientists & crazy people who claim to have seen them suggest, would they really ALL have only went to the 'almighty' USA, you never ever see a documentary where a Russian person claims to have seen an alien ship land, it's always Americans.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incident
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/11/world/ufo-landing-is-fact-not-fantasy-the-russians-insist.html

Paladino
February 19th, 2015, 05:28 AM
Well I guess I stand corrected! Thanks for clearing that up.

Cpt_Cutter
February 19th, 2015, 05:43 AM
Life in some form in all of existence certainly exists, but chances are we'll never meet it.
Earth itself is likely not very interesting to aliens, save for it's life bearing qualities. if like is as common as science suggests in the universe, we wouldn't even be that remarkable for that. It'd be like sending a robot or driving yourself from Alaska to South Africa to see a new Starbucks. There's lots of them, and chances are many are far more interesting than our lonely rock. We need to hunker down and actively try to not contact alien civilizations in my opinion. Every situation in human history that has involved one technologically superior power meeting an inferior one has resulted in the near decimation of the lesser civilization, we have no reason to believe that it is any less true for foreign species. Chances are that we would kill each other accidentally, like the Spanish and the Mayans, due to our bodies having no resistance to the other species diseases.

fairmaiden
February 19th, 2015, 05:51 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Yep! I believe that anything's possible, so why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? Most likely.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? Probably but not in the near future. Maybe in a few hundred years?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? Well, I guess so. They could have some kind of technology that could cure diseases haha.

Emerald Dream
February 19th, 2015, 02:11 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Given that I believe that space is infinite - then yes, by default.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? No.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? We'll be extinct before that happens.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? (see above) We'll be extinct before we actually discover any intelligent life out there.

Miserabilia
February 19th, 2015, 04:32 PM
I wasn't sure where to put this. This is probably the best suited forum section.
Perhaps there have been a thousand threads like this before but I have some specific questions.
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?



1; despite the obvious paradox created, I definetly beleive there is alien life across the unvierse somewhere because it seems logical concidering the chances of some kind of life existing compared to the amount of planets. Not to mention it could be compeltely different than life as we know it.

2; no. I don't really see any reason to beleive that.

3; Space travel is incredibly slow and statisticaly the next planet with intelligent life should be pretty far away even at warp speed standards. Communicate with them? Possibly, someday, somehow. But visiting? I don't really think so.

4; Definetly. Just learn about other types of life, it would be fascinating.

dirtyboxer55
February 19th, 2015, 05:32 PM
everyone here is saying no to number two, but let me ask you this, if aliens never visited then how do you explain the great pyramids?

Kacey
February 19th, 2015, 06:09 PM
everyone here is saying no to number two, but let me ask you this, if aliens never visited then how do you explain the great pyramids?

I could explain it to you, but you ARE the most intelligent person here...

The scientists went back and found a part of the hieroglyphics that they missed. The Egyptians wet the sand, and rolled the stones over that. Simple enough

CharlieHorse
February 19th, 2015, 06:33 PM
I wasn't sure where to put this. This is probably the best suited forum section.
Perhaps there have been a thousand threads like this before but I have some specific questions.
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

1. Yeah. Cuz there are an estimated 500 billion galaxies, making the current estimated stellar population at 7 x 10^22.
We're a tiny planet orbiting a tiny star. There's definitely other life out there. Intelligent, unintelligent, bacteria, whatever. I'm entirely convinced.

2. Yeah. Meteorites probably brought microbes to earth here and there. They count as aliens. Intelligent beings like green men? No.
Our solar system is 4.7 ish lightyears away from the next closest star.
And even then we are really isolated. There's a helluva lot of empty space in... space. I don't think any intelligent beings would have been able to reach earth.

3. No

4. Yes. Absolutely. It would be revolutionary. HUGE. The biggest, most important discovery and moment in human history ever. It would bring the human race into new light. We would not be alone in the universe. We could be united as a human race, rather than by color or tongue.
A interplanetary relationship could benefit both living beings, as long as there's no conquest, or war.
The movies have made alien contact all scary and unknown. The word "alien" is almost always negative. We should re-evaluate the idea, and consider it a good thing.

sunnieseason
February 19th, 2015, 06:56 PM
First of all, awesome question. I think this will be a lot of fun.

1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?

I'm sure that somewhere out there life exists. The universe is huge so there probably is life out there.

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?

No, I don't think aliens have ever come here. In order for them to travel to Earth they would have to have mastered faster than light travel, or would have to find some way to use worm holes or some crazy thing like that. If they were that advanced, then why the hell would they come to earth to make crop circles, mutliate some cows, and stick things in red neck's butts? They would be more intelligent to do that.

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?

Probably not.

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

I know we're already trying to, but I don't think it's going to do any good.

dirtyboxer55
February 19th, 2015, 07:23 PM
I could explain it to you, but you ARE the most intelligent person here...

The scientists went back and found a part of the hieroglyphics that they missed. The Egyptians wet the sand, and rolled the stones over that. Simple enough

did you know scientists determined it physically impossible for the pyramids to be built in only twenty years? checkmate

Kacey
February 19th, 2015, 07:28 PM
did you know scientists determined it physically impossible for the pyramids to be built in only twenty years? checkmate

I'm just not going to argue. I can smell the ignorance from here...

dirtyboxer55
February 19th, 2015, 07:43 PM
I'm just not going to argue. I can smell the ignorance from here...

admitting defeat then? most who don't believe in aliens building the pyramids do the same thing when confronted with the undeniable evidence.

Luminous
February 19th, 2015, 07:50 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
Yes, I think there must be something out there.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
Nah. Why would they waste their time coming here if they're advanced enough to get here without our detection?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
Perhaps. I don't know why they'd bother with us, but maybe.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
Not really. We don't know how hostile they are.

Elysium
February 19th, 2015, 09:13 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Yes, by default, because I can't definitively say that they don't exist somewhere. I do however find it difficult to believe that in the vast infinity that is outer space, we are the only living things.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? No.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? No.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? There are many reasons why we should not do that.

In this matter, I'm going to be an ass and invoke Schrödinger's Cat here to justify my answers.

amgb
February 20th, 2015, 03:04 AM
1. Yes, because I believe that in the creation of the universe other life forms besides human beings must have been born as well. However, there needs to be scientific studies, research and material evidence to prove their existence for everyone to believe it.
2. Yes, probably at one point in time that we didn't know about or haven't discovered the evidence for.
3. Yes, there is a small but definite chance that extra-terrestrial life forms could either accidentally or intentionally land on our earth.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because it will be new discoveries and opportunities to connect and live together with an entire new species, which would not only be nice but also expands our population of living organisms to increase chances of survival. No, because meddling with aliens which we barely know anything about could be a danger to mankind. At the worst, aliens could be arriving at our doorstep wanting to take over our planet. A war from that would kill the majority, if not all of us.

sunnieseason
February 20th, 2015, 05:25 PM
That guy with the crazy hair on the History Channel says that Aliens exist, so they must exist.

Cpt_Cutter
February 20th, 2015, 07:20 PM
admitting defeat then? most who don't believe in aliens building the pyramids do the same thing when confronted with the undeniable evidence.

Sources really aren't your thing, are they?

Arkansasguy
February 20th, 2015, 08:05 PM
I wasn't sure where to put this. This is probably the best suited forum section.
Perhaps there have been a thousand threads like this before but I have some specific questions.
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

My answers:
1. Given the size of the universe, yes. We've discovered many potentially habitable planets in our galaxy and we've barely scratched the surface.
2. No. That reason is because if an alien was observing earth, say 10,000,000 light years away, it would see what was happening 10,000,000 years ago because of how long it took for light to travel there, and they would have no way of knowing that intelligent life would develope. Likewise, aliens with extremely advanced technology probably have no interest in such an immature society.
3. Probably not, because earth probably isn't that special, and for similar reasons as above.
4. Absolutely not. While it's possible that we could contact pacifists, it's also very likely that we meet a hostile race. Or perhaps we have too many differences and they could choose to fight us because of them, if that makes any sense.

There is no cause to believe in alien life.

Cpt_Cutter
February 20th, 2015, 08:06 PM
There is no cause to believe in alien life.

Why not?

dirtyboxer55
February 20th, 2015, 09:02 PM
Sources really aren't your thing, are they?

i once read a study that said 90% of sources were false or misleading

Arkansasguy
February 20th, 2015, 11:37 PM
Why not?

Probably because it doesn't exist.

Typhlosion
February 21st, 2015, 12:33 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Aye, they seem like a likely existence.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? The odds are very small.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? The odds are very small.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? By all means!

i once read a study that said 90% of sources were false or misleading

I assume the joke was that same source was misleading. *cough*

Also, what study was that anyway?

dirtyboxer55
February 21st, 2015, 12:42 AM
I assume the joke was that same source was misleading. *cough*

Also, what study was that anyway?

it was on google

Kacey
February 21st, 2015, 12:47 AM
it was on google

Google is TOTALLY a valid source of information. I mean, they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true!
*insert something about a french model here. 10 points to whoever gets it, besides the person quoted. They don't count*

dirtyboxer55
February 21st, 2015, 12:56 AM
Google is TOTALLY a valid source of information. I mean, they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true!
*insert something about a french model here. 10 points to whoever gets it, besides the person quoted. They don't count*

but it said it was true so obviously it wasn't not true

Cpt_Cutter
February 21st, 2015, 04:39 AM
Probably because it doesn't exist.

How, pray tell, do you know this? Where is the infini-time-machine that lets you see every planet in the history of universal existence at every point in it's existence at the same time?

Arkansasguy
February 21st, 2015, 07:11 AM
How, pray tell, do you know this? Where is the infini-time-machine that lets you see every planet in the history of universal existence at every point in it's existence at the same time?

There is no evidence for alien life. It is unreasonable to believe in things without evidence.

Vlerchan
February 21st, 2015, 07:23 AM
There is no evidence for alien life. It is unreasonable to believe in things without evidence.
Don't you believe Empiricism is inherently flawed?

Regardless we have evidence that life can exist within an Earth-like habitat and we have evidence that other Earth-like habitats exists. It's not unreasonable to believe it's possible that Alien-life might exist.

Leprous
February 21st, 2015, 08:26 AM
The universe is infinite yet people are not willing to believe there are other live forms out there. Mars used to have water, there is a moon in our dolar system, think it was Titan, that looks similar to earth.

Come to think of it, technicly we're the aliens. Imagine other life forms seeiing Humans, then we woulf be aliens to them. So yeah I do believe there is life out there. Who knows how close they may be?

Also, dirtyboxer55 You claim to be the most intelligent user on VT yet you are completely ignorant and you also refuse to act properly in your little debate about the pyramids. Also, don't trust everything you read on google my friend.

dirtyboxer55
February 21st, 2015, 09:24 AM
The universe is infinite yet people are not willing to believe there are other live forms out there. Mars used to have water, there is a moon in our dolar system, think it was Titan, that looks similar to earth.

Come to think of it, technicly we're the aliens. Imagine other life forms seeiing Humans, then we woulf be aliens to them. So yeah I do believe there is life out there. Who knows how close they may be?

Also, dirtyboxer55 You claim to be the most intelligent user on VT yet you are completely ignorant and you also refuse to act properly in your little debate about the pyramids. Also, don't trust everything you read on google my friend.

how am i ignorant for believing the truth abt the great pyramids hmmm? whos the real ignorant one who ignores the science that proves they were impossible to build by people?

Vlerchan
February 21st, 2015, 09:36 AM
how am i ignorant for believing the truth abt the great pyramids hmmm? whos the real ignorant one who ignores the science that proves they were impossible to build by people?
Please produce verifiable evidence supporting this claim. Thanks in advance.

I've seen lots of hypothesis produced about how they were constructed. I presume these are addressed.

Leprous
February 21st, 2015, 10:24 AM
how am i ignorant for believing the truth abt the great pyramids hmmm? whos the real ignorant one who ignores the science that proves they were impossible to build by people?

Alright, then give me proof that the pyramids were built by aliens. Because without any proof that statement of yours is completely irrelevant. Get your facts straight.

Also, the smartest person on VT would know a sentence starts with a capital letter. And also has no idea what proper proper grammar in a real sentence looks like.

Hideous
February 21st, 2015, 10:25 AM
Yeah, I do think aliens exist.

Arkansasguy
February 21st, 2015, 01:25 PM
Don't you believe Empiricism is inherently flawed?

Yes, so I'll rephrase. It is unreasonable to believe in physical things without evidence.

Regardless we have evidence that life can exist within an Earth-like habitat and we have evidence that other Earth-like habitats exists. It's not unreasonable to believe it's possible that Alien-life might exist.

What evidence is there that other Earth-like habitats exist?

Cpt_Cutter
February 21st, 2015, 04:36 PM
What evidence is there that other Earth-like habitats exist?

Due to the number of planets that we know exist, we have to assume life is the rule, not the exception. It is far more illogical to assume we are all that exists than it is to assume more life exists on any of the trillions of planets in the universe.

Arkansasguy
February 21st, 2015, 05:51 PM
Due to the number of planets that we know exist, we have to assume life is the rule, not the exception. It is far more illogical to assume we are all that exists than it is to assume more life exists on any of the trillions of planets in the universe.

So in other words, no evidence, just your assumption.

And I don't know anyone who claims that nothing exists besides human beings, so that's a straw man.

Cpt_Cutter
February 21st, 2015, 06:11 PM
And I don't know anyone who claims that nothing exists besides human beings, so that's a straw man.

That's exactly what you're doing. You're claiming that humans are the only intelligent life in the universe.

Vlerchan
February 21st, 2015, 07:45 PM
What evidence is there that other Earth-like habitats exist?

A major question is whether planets suitable for biochemistry are common or rare in the universe. Small rocky planets with liquid water enjoy key ingredients for biology. We used the National Aeronautics and Space Administration Kepler telescope to survey 42,000 Sun-like stars for periodic dimmings that occur when a planet crosses in front of its host star. We found 603 planets, 10 of which are Earth size and orbit in the habitable zone, where conditions permit surface liquid water. We measured the detectability of these planets by injecting synthetic planet-caused dimmings into Kepler brightness measurements. We find that 22% of Sun-like stars harbor Earth-size planets orbiting in their habitable zones. The nearest such planet may be within 12 light-years.

http://m.pnas.org/content/110/48/19273.abstract

Mars was also probably capable of harbouring life a long time ago. Scientists think the recent discoveries of high concentrations of methane might be further indicative of this.

Babs
February 21st, 2015, 08:07 PM
everyone here is saying no to number two, but let me ask you this, if aliens never visited then how do you explain the great pyramids?

Totally not like there was an ancient civilization in Egypt or anything...

Arkansasguy
February 21st, 2015, 11:58 PM
A major question is whether planets suitable for biochemistry are common or rare in the universe. Small rocky planets with liquid water enjoy key ingredients for biology. We used the National Aeronautics and Space Administration Kepler telescope to survey 42,000 Sun-like stars for periodic dimmings that occur when a planet crosses in front of its host star. We found 603 planets, 10 of which are Earth size and orbit in the habitable zone, where conditions permit surface liquid water. We measured the detectability of these planets by injecting synthetic planet-caused dimmings into Kepler brightness measurements. We find that 22% of Sun-like stars harbor Earth-size planets orbiting in their habitable zones. The nearest such planet may be within 12 light-years.

http://m.pnas.org/content/110/48/19273.abstract

Mars was also probably capable of harbouring life a long time ago. Scientists think the recent discoveries of high concentrations of methane might be further indicative of this.

1. Just because liquid water can exist, doesn't mean it actually does.

2. There are endless requirements for life to develop. There must be a sufficient magnetosphere, but not too strong. The star must be close enough too the galactic center, but not too close. The star's galactic orbit must not be too irregular. the list goes on and on.

That's exactly what you're doing. You're claiming that humans are the only intelligent life in the universe.

Which is a far cry from the absurd straw man that we're the only things that exist.

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

Vlerchan
February 22nd, 2015, 04:52 AM
1. Just because liquid water can exist, doesn't mean it actually does.
Ok: ~22% of Earth-like stars have at least one Earth-like planet which is capable of developing (and retaining) seas and oceans:

I think there's quite a high chance that at least one out there might: there are a number of planets - eg: Kepler 22b - that we are quite sure have surface water. We know Titan has surface liquid.

2. There are endless requirements for life to develop. There must be a sufficient magnetosphere, but not too strong. The star must be close enough too the galactic center, but not too close. The star's galactic orbit must not be too irregular. the list goes on and on.
Sure. But then we have estimates of there being billions of planets in our galaxy fitting the above cited criteria. There's an estimated 100 quintillion in the observable universe. There's a high chance that another possessing all the required characteristics exists.

Considering that these stars are within the same zone as earth and in-and-around the same size and orbiting a similar-sized star we can judge similar orbital patterns in general. This has been determined as truth for a handful - eg: Kepler 22b again.

Most of what we discover is in and around our closeness to the galactic centre since it's not possible for us to view much further. I wasn't sure this was a requirement though: could you mind explaining?

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Looking back I'll agree Earth-like habitats is misleading: we know planets that mimic several of the most important conditions of Earth exist and it's quite possible that a number are more-or-less analogous to Earth. It's quite possible then that these Earth-like planets might harbour life.

Triceratops
February 22nd, 2015, 09:53 AM
Nah.

tasminsmith
February 22nd, 2015, 09:55 AM
I think there is life apart from us in the universe

dirtyboxer55
February 22nd, 2015, 05:45 PM
Totally not like there was an ancient civilization in Egypt or anything...

thats just what the aliens want you to believe. open your eyes sheep

Beth
February 22nd, 2015, 06:07 PM
No there is no scientific proof of existence. I do believe that there is life on other celestial bodies.Not intelligent life but microbial life.

Isabella_
February 22nd, 2015, 08:25 PM
Of course they do, they are trying to get here all the time by boat

Leprous
February 23rd, 2015, 01:15 AM
thats just what the aliens want you to believe. open your eyes sheep

You really are unable to give a proper and serious answer to any thread on this entire site isn't it? There is enough proof all the ancient civilizations excisted.

Connor.
February 23rd, 2015, 08:08 AM
The universe is a very large place, and it seems highly unlikely that we are the only intelligent beings in it.

phuckphace
February 23rd, 2015, 11:20 AM
I believe the likelihood of there existing extraterrestrial intelligent life is absurdly low, certainly not high enough to bother speculating about. E.T. life if it exists at all is far more likely to be analogous to bacteria, viruses and mono-cellular algae. maybe some sponge or jellyfish-like creatures perhaps.

it's possible, yeah, but for now I'm going to stick by my assumption that humans won the cosmic lottery by managing to evolve all this way from proto-bacteria, while other proto-bacteria on other planets weren't as lucky.

I'm sure there are plenty of "sterile Earths" out there that have water oceans, human-breathable atmospheres and located in their parent star's habitable zones, but are completely devoid of life. only problem is how to get there.

dirtyboxer55
February 23rd, 2015, 03:01 PM
You really are unable to give a proper and serious answer to any thread on this entire site isn't it? There is enough proof all the ancient civilizations excisted.

the aliens must be controlling your brain right now, its too late for you!

Leprous
February 23rd, 2015, 03:16 PM
the aliens must be controlling your brain right now, its too late for you!

Yeah, you are. Honestly if you can't even be mature enough and act properly then stop posting in a forum that requires someone to be serious. You're incredibly immature and you seem to find yourself very funny aswell. As I also noticed you don't even reply to some of the questions people asked you here.

I asked proof for your little theory, but I don't need it seeiing you acting like someone who's even too young to be on here.

dirtyboxer55
February 23rd, 2015, 03:21 PM
Yeah, you are. Honestly if you can't even be mature enough and act properly then stop posting in a forum that requires someone to be serious.
see my signature

You're incredibly immature and you seem to find yourself very funny aswell. As I also noticed you don't even reply to some of the questions people asked you here.

i didnt feel obligated to

I asked proof for your little theory, but I don't need it seeiing you acting like someone who's even too young to be on here.

the proofs on google. the real immature on is you for not looking at the undeniable facts ive presented.

Leprous
February 23rd, 2015, 03:23 PM
see my signature


i didnt feel obligated to



the proofs on google. the real immature on is you for not looking at the undeniable facts ive presented.
Well, guess you really do think you're funny.

Cpt_Cutter
February 23rd, 2015, 10:14 PM
Well, guess you really do think you're funny.

Stop feeding him, you're making his ego bigger, and it's not contributing to the conversation.

phuckphace
February 25th, 2015, 12:29 PM
DB55, your posting technique is very obvious and unsubtle. you gotta do it just right so it's both entertaining and leaving people guessing. what you're doing right now would be funny if it were ironic, but in your case it isn't which makes every thread you post in a cringefest. friendly tips on how not to post - signed, a guy who makes a lot of tl;dr posts in ROTW that nobody reads

anyway, who here agrees/disagrees with my hypothesis above? I'm honestly curious.

Vlerchan
February 25th, 2015, 12:45 PM
I don't think I know enough about genetics or human evolution to comment on the first part. I would imagine over billions of years the improbable becomes quite possible though so I'm sceptical that if Earth-like habitats do exist their life will be restricted to primitive small-cell-count organisms.

I more or less agree with the second part. Given the distance I'm doubtful we'll be capable of reaching these planets any time soon - if ever. However I've always held that our future was in constructing space-based habitats at fixed orbital points ( [url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point) in space. If we start construction tomorrow it might even get done before I die.

Babs
February 25th, 2015, 01:55 PM
anyway, who here agrees/disagrees with my hypothesis above? I'm honestly curious.

I think it's unlikely that the "cosmic lottery" has only happened once in the billions of years of existence the universe has existed.
I don't necessarily believe little green dudes with ray guns are running around on a hostile space voyage, but I think there must be SOMETHING more than just bacteria. Perhaps with intelligence similar to humans, or maybe less intelligent animals. If it hasn't happen, it may eventually.
But I also have a habit of magical thinking so I could also be wrong.

Human
February 26th, 2015, 06:44 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
Yes, as the universe is big enough that the chance is just so large
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
Probably not, maybe, but we can't tell
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
I can't say
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
No

Burn007
March 5th, 2015, 01:25 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
I do believe that some kind of E.T. form of life exists,the could be super intelligent or just some animals,but,with universe as it is,its really hard to think,that there could be only one planet with life on it...All odds are against the fact that we are alone :)

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
I watched some theories,and explanations...I think it's possible that that is how some life forms were created,with alien DNK or effects their visit upon earth had...But that was lot before humans if you ask me,and just maybe they came here in the time of Ancient Egypt and Summers
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
I think we will destroy each other before that happens,or if they visit us,we will never find out :P

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
Not really,unless we need their help or technology,otherwise we risk being destroyed lot faster than it's supposed to happen :D

But hey,it is just some theoretical talk,it would be sure a change from the wars and fun to see if there were some real evidence to come up :D

Seth Green
March 8th, 2015, 05:18 PM
The universe if infinite so I think it is near impossible for earth to be the ONLY planet that can sustain life. However like you said, I highly doubt we will ever meet aliens because there would have to be some form of travel faster than the speed of light which seems very unlikely to me.

Screw Attack
March 10th, 2015, 02:40 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?

Yes, I believe they should exist, it's a large universe we live in.

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?

Nah, nothing points to it. If they did, their presence would have been noted. And a lot of the individual ufo rumours have been debunked and explained. I really don't think so.

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?

Maybe, who knows. Who knows if we'll find them first though.

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

Yes.

Deactivated
March 11th, 2015, 05:04 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
- Without a doubt. I've always been a lover for the universe, and have never doubted the existence of alien life With the fourteen billion years the universe has been in existence, and the immense number of stars, life is definitely something seen throughout the universe, as well as intelligent forms of it.

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
- The Earth has been here for over four billion years, and I've read an article which said that complex life may have came into existence around five billion years ago. So, I'm certain that there are plenty of civilizations that have conquered space travel and now have colonized numerable worlds. With that, I can't say for certainty that the Earth has been visited in the billions of years it's been here, since I have zero evidence, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has.

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
- I'm positive when it comes to the future of our civilization; if you ask me, I believe that we'll make it through the upcoming century, and will venture further into space. With that, I'd say that we'll surely stumble across an alien society, or even have one come to us. Who knows, maybe they're waiting for us to achieve a certain aspect of technology, and then they'll believe we're ready for contact.

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
- Personally, the thought of alien contact excites me to no end and I'd definitely reach out if given the opportunity. At the same time, I do understand that there are many problems that we must deal with in our own species before we converse with ET. For this, I would love it if we reached out, but at the same time focused on our own planet.

cami
March 12th, 2015, 09:42 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Yep. I don't think we are the only ones out there.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? Yes.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? Yes.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? Sure.

Hideous
March 12th, 2015, 09:54 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Yes. The universe is quite frankly, large. We are aliens to them, and they are aliens to us.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? Perhaps.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? Most definitely.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? No, we shall not. If we did, we would reach out to something that may or may not be potentially dangerous. I would not take that risk, honestly.

Saint of Sinners
March 17th, 2015, 05:11 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?

Yup. Probability almost guarantees their existence.

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?

No, don't think so. The current 'evidence' available isn't very credible and is easily disproven.

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?

Maybe. Unfortunately it's rather unlikely. Remember the universe is large in both space and time. Civilizations rise and fall, what are the chances that an alien civilisation exists both at the same time and near enough to pop by?

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

Definitely not. For their sake. Humanity has not been very nice to other species so far, even those from our own planet.

phuckphace
March 17th, 2015, 11:19 PM
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?

Maybe. Unfortunately it's rather unlikely. Remember the universe is large in both space and time. Civilizations rise and fall, what are the chances that an alien civilisation exists both at the same time and near enough to pop by?

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?

Definitely not. For their sake. Humanity has not been very nice to other species so far, even those from our own planet.

agree on both points.

the possibility of E.T. advanced civilizations also raises another concern: what about a reverse scenario where they are hostile and advanced enough to go full Conquista on us? in that case it would be a superbly bad idea to advertise our existence to the Universe. (and I thought Third World immigration was bad)

that said, there's still the hurdle of vast distance and relativity to contend with. E.T. civilizations if they exist are likely distant enough (say, a galaxy or two over) that long-distance detection would be impossible due to the laws of physics. that's a fancy way to say any signal we could send them travels at a max speed of 300,000 kilometers/s, which is stupidly slow on the cosmic scale and wouldn't reach the ayyliens for millennia or eons.

tinybird
March 31st, 2015, 08:18 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? yes, our universe is so huge that there must be something out there! it's somewhat depressing to think we are all alone on a tiny planet orbiting a tiny sun in an otherwise empty universe.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? no.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? yes, but it could be billions of years.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? they could have knowledge and technology we don't have, so yes.

roadwarrior
April 6th, 2015, 09:56 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
- Yes, we are not alone in this Universe.. Universe is very huge as we know...
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
-No, I don't believe in all of UFO catchings... and just like us humans, we know and researched tons of planets around the universe but we never ever went to visit it...
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
- Yes, if we visited their planet....
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
-Yes, making good relations with them making a good peace treaties around the universe...

Tesserax
April 8th, 2015, 03:05 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
Yes. It is almost certain that aliens exist. Given the massive size of our universe, the countless number of galaxies and planets that are not only inhabitable by us, but possibly inhabitable by different lifeforms (e.g. An organism which relies on Ammonia to live could exist). The universe is too big for us to be a lucky chance, for us to be THE ONLY creatures in this plane of existence.


2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
Unlikely, possible, but highly, highly unlikely. Considering that we are only just beginning to grow as a species, and we have only barely reached our moon while only PLANNING so far to land another human being on Mars, the chances are that most other existing aliens that have existed probably would not have gotten much further. Considering the size of our galaxy, let alone our whole universe, it would take 8 years at the very least to simply get to the star nearest to our solar system. With our galaxy being millions of light years apart, and our galaxy being billions, trillions, maybe even dectillions or more from other galaxies, it would take far, far too long for them to even consider using the valuable time to visit some backwater, crappy planet like ours.


3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
Highly unlikely again. Chances are they will never invent technology sophisticated enough to meet us. Not to mention, cryogenics would certainly have to be made, plus a ship that can sustain itself for however many millions or billions of years, SPECIFICALLY to visit us. That, or the species must be some insane, stupid species bent on war which makes no sense at all, as it endangers the species and would make for a poor evolution, that must live for millions of years or reproduces faster than bacteria in a field of decomposing bodies. There would be no point in visiting us, with all the other free, uninhabited planets that exist. Also, the environment of our planet (including gravity, atmosphere, etc.) may be too different from ours for them to survive.


4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
No. If they can approach us and we can't, their technology is likely FAR more advanced than ours. In addition to that, imagine us like mosquitoes, and them as people. If we constantly try to contact them, they may perceive it as we see mosquitoes that attack us, considering mosquitoes only attack us for sustenance, and not to annoy us, yet we still perceive them as annoying. By being the mosquito, we must be careful with our interaction with them. If they wish to make contact with us, they will. Otherwise, it would be wise to simply leave them alone

Edit: In addition, the chance that they speak the same languages as we do on Earth, is possible, but so infinitesimally small that it is basically certain that they do not. By not being able to establish contact, as well as not knowing how they perceive our tones, may lead them to believing we are speaking aggressively or with malicious intent

Unknwn
April 8th, 2015, 06:07 AM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
Yes, I kinda do. I think that there has to be other life out there with a universe this big. I really don't think we're the only life, or I hope not because that's pretty lonely if we are lol

2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
Haha, I'd like to think that it has and that all those UFO sightings are real, but idk lol. I guess I kinda hope it has just because that gives me like a cool sci-fi feeling but idk :P

3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
Well, if we haven't been visited yet, then maybe not? But I think I read an article or saw a video or something that talked about how alien life could have potentially arrived to Earth in meteors :o So in that way then maybe lol. Again, I kinda hope that we have, but idk :P

4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? I've heard some scientists say that a visitation from aliens is bad news as they would most likely try to conquer us. I hope that doesn't happen, but I think we should take the chance and try to communicate with them.

BlackestSorcery
April 13th, 2015, 05:53 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
Yes, given the size of the universe.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
Yes, many times.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
On a large scale invasion, I'm not sure. But, alien delegates in yes.
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
Yes~

Jason The Great
April 16th, 2015, 09:57 AM
I wasn't sure where to put this. This is probably the best suited forum section.
Perhaps there have been a thousand threads like this before but I have some specific questions.
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?


My answers :


1. I do. Why I shouldn't? I even believe in multiverse. You know , this place is just too big for human. It kind of doesn't make sense if all those far far away galaxies are empty and stuff.

2. They might have.

3. They might be interested in us. The way we live...the way we lie...kill each other...I think we are kind of entertainment for them!

4. No. We should let it be cool. We , people , are too vulnerable for this shit!

Microcosm
April 16th, 2015, 08:35 PM
For anyone who is interested in aliens, you should look up "The Baltic Sea Anomaly." It's very intriguing and almost undeniable evidence for aliens in my opinion.

WanderingHeart
April 16th, 2015, 09:48 PM
1. Yes because you cannot believe that out of BILLIONS and BILLIONS of planets, ours is the only one to have intelligent life.

2. Maybe but the government (coughILLUMINATI) is keeping information from us o----o.

3. Lol why would aliens be wasting their time on us? Unless they're just like us, then my answer is no...

4. AHAHAHA no...human leaders are idiots and would most likely start a war. Or they'd team up and put their illuminati plans into action.

My point is let's not interact with other intelligent life...It will end badly...

Unlucky
June 14th, 2015, 12:52 PM
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Danny_boi 16
June 18th, 2015, 05:16 PM
This might be a cool video for y'all
URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc[/URL]

1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
I believe that aliens exist. The probability of them not existing is incredibly small. Almost every star has a planet and ~1/5 have a planet in the habitable zone. I think cellular life is much more abundant. I think complex life also exist, but in rarer amounts.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
It's possible. The History Channel sure thinks so.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
No
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
I'm torn on this one. I have one valid point by Dr. Hawking about Aliens being akin to Columbus and Humans like Native Americans. In all likelihood we're just probably in the way for the collection of resources. But on the other hand Star Trek.

Uniquemind
June 18th, 2015, 05:59 PM
This might be a cool video for y'all
URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc[/URL]

1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
I believe that aliens exist. The probability of them not existing is incredibly small. Almost every star has a planet and ~1/5 have a planet in the habitable zone. I think cellular life is much more abundant. I think complex life also exist, but in rarer amounts.
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
It's possible. The History Channel sure thinks so.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
No
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
I'm torn on this one. I have one valid point by Dr. Hawking about Aliens being akin to Columbus and Humans like Native Americans. In all likelihood we're just probably in the way for the collection of resources. But on the other hand Star Trek.


The Ancient Aliens show is ridiculous and puts a bad name to those who believe that we have been visited.


https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ

^Ancient Aliens Debunked, makes the show's so called "experts" seem like paid actors for the show. (they might be I don't know, but they certainly weren't unbiased).

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Have we been visited? Yes.

I can't provide proof unless you meet with me face to face but I can't ask that of any of you here without breaking the rules so I won't.

DriveAlive
June 18th, 2015, 06:26 PM
I actually have a funny story about this. I have a physics teacher who is a staunch conservative and catholic. She is the kind of person that always bad-mouths democrats in class and has a concealed carry. We asked her if aliens exist (expecting her to say something about how God didn't make aliens) and she said that of course aliens exist and it is ridiculous to belief that earth is the only planet containing life.

xXoblivionXx
June 18th, 2015, 06:43 PM
1. Yes, I do. the universe is ever expanding, it seems almost narrow minded to think that only earth has life.

2. perhaps one day, but i feel like we are going to make the earth inhabitable before that happens

3. no

4. probably not, we barely get along with our own human race at times.

Jaffe
June 18th, 2015, 08:50 PM
Yes, yes, yes and yes.

mattsmith48
August 3rd, 2015, 04:35 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? yes the universe is too big
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? maybe some microbes from mars but thats it
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? If yes they're going to kill us all so hope not
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? If we are smarter then them yes

ndrwmxwll
August 4th, 2015, 03:06 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not?
i believe in extraterrestrial life, but not advanced technological civilizations common enough to contact us in our lifetime, as their colony(s) would have LONG ago spread across the milky way giving off visible infrared cuz energy and the laws of thermodynamics
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens?
no
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens?
its possible in the distant future for a species that has acquired a human-like (social) existence to visit us, but id think they are currently at least hundreds of millions of light years off thataway
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them?
yes, especially if we are the first in our galaxy to go interstellar

Turtl3
August 4th, 2015, 06:28 PM
1. Do you believe in aliens? Why or why not? Yes, with there being so many different stars and then planets there must be other life (no matter its complexity, sentient or non-sentient)
2. Do you think earth has ever been visited by aliens? Not in the form of small grey men or antything like that...cells or something like that maybe.
3. Do you think we ever will be visited by aliens? Eventually, probably not in our life times!
4. Should the opportunity arise, do you think we should reach out to them? Yes, we must learn about them!