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Microcosm
February 18th, 2015, 10:45 PM
I thought of this recently and thought it might be interesting to share. If you could design a constitution(similar to that of a constitutional government)which is comprised of foundations for morality and rationality and anything of that sort, what would you add to it. This way is particularly interesting because you, the readers of this post, play the Constitutional Convention of humanity. Basically, just share any foundational principles of morality and rationality that benefit the whole and formulate your response in a sort of constitutional manner. If this post works out, I might compile all of the ideas together and make a list, like a proper constitution out of it and share it with you all. This is just a little thought experiment and exercise and maybe it could be beneficial somehow and inspire me as well as anyone else who it's shared with.
Let's see what you guys can come up with!
Kacey
February 18th, 2015, 11:04 PM
Everyone should be treated equally, including their opinions.
That's really all I could think of...
Karkat
February 19th, 2015, 12:12 AM
The pointed hate needs to stop.
Other than that, I agree with Kacey.
Vlerchan
February 19th, 2015, 04:34 AM
1.1 All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law.
1.2 This shall not be held to mean that the State shall not in its enactments have due regard to differences of capacity, physical and moral, and of social function.
2.1 No citizen shall be deprived of their personal liberty save in accordance with law.
2.2 All citizens shall have a right to Habeas Corpus [and outline mechanism].
3.1 The state shall do its utmost to, in particular, protect and vindicate each citizens rights to life, bodily autonomy, free speech & press, and peaceful association.
[In particular is important here. It creates a hierarchal view of rights which allows the state to limit rights otherwise in favour of these. It also allows for unenumerated rights - implied rights drawn from the Preamble and harmonious readings of various constitutional provisions.]
4.1 The dwelling of each citizen is inviolable.
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I know we had a user who constructed an entire constitution for fun one. It was quite good. I might look for it later.
The above is also just there to get the ball rolling.
Microcosm
February 19th, 2015, 06:54 PM
1.1 All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law.
1.2 This shall not be held to mean that the State shall not in its enactments have due regard to differences of capacity, physical and moral, and of social function.
2.1 No citizen shall be deprived of their personal liberty save in accordance with law.
2.2 All citizens shall have a right to Habeas Corpus [and outline mechanism].
3.1 The state shall do its utmost to, in particular, protect and vindicate each citizens rights to life, bodily autonomy, free speech & press, and peaceful association.
[In particular is important here. It creates a hierarchal view of rights which allows the state to limit rights otherwise in favour of these. It also allows for unenumerated rights - implied rights drawn from the Preamble and harmonious readings of various constitutional provisions.]
4.1 The dwelling of each citizen is inviolable.
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I know we had a user who constructed an entire constitution for fun one. It was quite good. I might look for it later.
The above is also just there to get the ball rolling.
This isn't like a constitutional government of a nation though. What I meant was like a constitution of an individual person's moral character. Like how you should always act towards others. Example:
1.1: As a human being, it is a fundamental rule of morality/rationality to ...
It's really a philosophical thing. Like how we should individually think and act and percieve others etc.
Vlerchan
February 19th, 2015, 07:11 PM
It's really a philosophical thing. Like how we should individually think and act and percieve others etc.
Oh. Right.
Well even ignoring that I'm an ethical nihilist - I don't believe the moral character of an action is found in the action itself so I can't offer points here.
Microcosm
February 19th, 2015, 08:41 PM
Oh. Right.
Well even ignoring that I'm an ethical nihilist - I don't believe the moral character of an action is found in the action itself so I can't offer points here.
I gotcha. My last response wasn't meant to sound mean or insulting in any way btw. Just to clarify.
Atom
February 20th, 2015, 05:46 AM
I don't care. I would and will always find a way around it, if it prevents me from protecting my interests.
sunnieseason
February 20th, 2015, 05:27 PM
One simple rule: Do not initiate force against any other person.
jonosbro
March 6th, 2015, 05:05 PM
The Bible? It's good enough for me and has been the moral foundation of our civilisation for thousands of years and continues to be.
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