Political Compass - Crowd Chart Ed.

[Vlerchan]

Political Compass isn't great. I agree. But it's good for comparing political positions - eg: [a crowd chart I constructed elsewhere] (http://209.20.70.21/charts/crowdgraphpng.php?Mars=-5.2%2C-5.5&Gandalf=-3.2%2C-2.3&Unionhack=-2.4%2C-6.2&Moeboid=-8.5%2C-7.7&Miss_Kokane=-5.0%2C-3.2&Bw=-7.7%2C-3.2&Ripcage=-6.3%2C-4.7&Philfredobob=-0.5%2C-2.2&Tld=-4.4%2C-5.0&Archer=-2.4%2C-2.8&Br3admax=-4.8%2C-4.7&Alarra=0.3%2C2.3&Justice=-3.1%2C-0.1&velvet=-2.5%2C-8.7%3Cdiv%20style=).

So I'm making this thread:

Here's the test (http://209.20.70.21/test). Fill it out. Submit your results. And I'll log them into a crowd chart held in this OP.

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http://209.20.70.21/charts/crowdgraphpng.php?Vlerchan=-1.9%2C-8.9&H__Nelson=-1.8%2C0.4&Dennis=0.3%2C6.8&Typhlosion_=1.0%2C-2.5&Rick=-8.5%2C-7.7&Tasminsmith=0.5%2C3.8&Lyhom=-3.6%2C-4.6&Phuckphace_=-5.4%2C4.0&Imcoolbeans=-5.6%2C-5.2&Alluring=-1.3%2C-4.3&Aisle_Of_Plenty=2.8%2C-4.7&Bp=-3.3%2C-1.7&Ed=-3.8%2C-3.5&We=-6.3%2C-5.5&Ae=-2.7%2C-1.5&Melkor=-7.8%2C-6.5&Hubris=-1.3%2C-3.0&Saint=-4.5%2C-7.1&Waffle=2.3%2C-7.6&Transylvanian_=0.0%2C-3.0&Capto=-6.1%2C-4.6&Tg=-6.9%2C-4.0&Juxtapose=-4.8%2C-5.3&Ps=-3.1%2C-3.1&Svarog=-3.1%2C3.9&Hannah=-1.1%2C-2.4&Hollywood=-5.1%2C-3.5&sunnieseason=5.3%2C-4.8%3Cdiv%20style=

Legend:
Bp: Broken Pen Tg: Twilgirl
Ed: Emerald Dream Ps: Plane And Simple
We: World Eater
Ae: Abyssal Echo

[Left Now]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.25&soc=-1.69
Economic : -3.25
Social : -1.69


Hehehe....Looks like I and Gandhi have lots in common,right?Except of course,many things...

[Horatio Nelson]

This is awesome. :D


I'm Economic: -1.75 and Social: 0.36


Which, I don't know, I always considered myself more right winged. :P

[Vlerchan]

Updated.

Horatio Nelson: I think people come across as more left once you place the questions outside the traditional Democrat-Republican paradigm. That's just my experience though. I don't think there's an evident bias in the test. It was used to map my PolSci class and we'd a discussion after where nobody could present an obvious source of bias.

[Horatio Nelson]

Vlerchan Yeah, I don't disagree with where it put me.

[Dennis98]

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.82

Near Hitler , yeah ....

[Emerald Dream]

http://i.imgur.com/jpO2zms.png

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

Not surprised at all.

[Typhlosion]

Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

This thread needs more right.

[Vlerchan]

Updated.

This thread needs more right.
Good luck. You're on a forum for teenagers.

I'm sure though from previous tests here the forum leans more rightwards economics-wise.

The posters just don't post in ROTW usually, which is disappointing.

[RickMason]

http://209.20.70.21/printablegraph?ec=-8.50&soc=-7.69
Well... here we go then... (please, don't hurt me!)
Economic -8.50
Social -7.69

[World Eater]

For some reason the chart wouldn't load for me.

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

[tasminsmith]

0.5, 3.8, I thought I was more right tho tbh

[lyhom]

Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.62&soc=-4.62

[phuckphace]

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: +4.67

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.38&soc=4.67

the test does seem to prioritize economic views over social views when it comes to grouping you with the Left or Right.

[ImCoolBeans]

http://i.imgur.com/8RWrEiG.png

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

[Hideous]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-1.25&soc=-4.26

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26

[Sugaree]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.75&soc=-4.67

Economic Left/Right: 2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67



Here's mine. In about a year, I've pretty much shifted from Left Libertarian to Right Libertarian. I'm pretty close to Milton Friedman.

[Abyssal Echo]

image (http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.62&soc=-1.54)

Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.54

[Vlerchan]

Updated. It's starting to get crowded in there so some people had there names edited to initials.

the test does seem to prioritize economic views over social views when it comes to grouping you with the Left or Right.
Flip the graph? Though you're par on course as far as Left-Fascists generally go.

The test is worse for my position anyway. How do you graph a Marxist who doesn't reject neoclassical economics?

[Melkor]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.75&soc=-6.51
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51
Lol My views changed drastically during a year, I was more moderate like -5.55 now it is like -7.75...

[Kahn]

http://i58.tinypic.com/2re1pwy.png

Last time I took the test I was almost exactly in the middle of the chart, seems I've picked up some libertarian ideals along the way.

[phuckphace]

http://i.imgur.com/Ez8v2uN.png

in terms of ideological similarity to actual leaders, apparently I'm much closer to Hugo Chavez, the PLO and Saddam Hussein (not shown on graph) than Hitler. WELP

[Saint of Sinners]

http://i.imgur.com/gNLQ0av.png

As expected. Pretty socio-liberal. Too bad there isn't an anarchist option;)

-4.50, -7.13

[Vlerchan]

Updated.

Saint of Sinners: Libertarian and Anarchist are interchangable. If you happen to be a strong libertarian on this chart it is likely you're an anarchist.

[WaffleSingSong]

Economic Left/Right: 2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59
http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.25&soc=-7.59

Huh, seems like im a bit of an alien compared to most. If I recall from the chart, I think Vlerchan, the OP, Is the closest person from me, someone I really wouldn't expect :/.

[Vlerchan]

I think Vlerchan, the OP, Is the closest person from me, someone I really wouldn't expect :/.
Why? I'm curious.

I would have thought we'd be close enough.

[thetransylvanianguy]

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=0.00&soc=-2.97 ...I'm not surprised at all, every time I've taken this political compass I had been ranked as a centrist. Slightly leaning towards the left, in my opinion...

[WaffleSingSong]

Why? I'm curious.

I would have thought we'd be close enough.

Well, you seem quite socialistic and I consider myself a supporter of captialism, with a few checks and balances economically. Socially I think we're on the same page, I just thought you would be a bit more left and I a bit more right in terms of economics.

[Vlerchan]

Well, you seem quite socialistic and I consider myself a supporter of captialism, with a few checks and balances economically.
Love markets. Hate capitalism.

I support free markets as the best means of the allocation of wants (as opposed to needs) amongst a populous though believe that within these markets the means of production should be socialised (worker's self-management etc.) for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with the traditional Marxian justifications - but I wont get into here, being off-topic.

I also thought you were a Mutualist? Or at least you were at some stage. That's what I was talking about as being similar enough.

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edit: thetransylvanianguy: Can you remember your exact scores? I can't really plot you otherwise.

[WaffleSingSong]

I also thought you were a Mutualist? Or at least you were at some stage. That's what I was talking about as being similar enough.

I got that from some picture that represented your score on this very test, and where I fall I always get Mutualist. I know it's something about "Anti-Capitalist Free Market" Which sounds quite interesting, but I can't exactly jam it in my head to exactly what that looks like. All the workers collectively/democratically own a means of production, but for there own private profit instead of the needs of a community?

[phuckphace]

edit: thetransylvanianguy: Can you remember your exact scores? I can't really plot you otherwise.

here you go brah. the PC result chart is done in CSS rather than as a static image, so the score is preserved in the image path:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=0.00&soc=-2.97

[Vlerchan]

Thanks! Updated now.

I know it's something about "Anti-Capitalist Free Market" Which sounds quite interesting, but I can't exactly jam it in my head to exactly what that looks like. All the workers collectively/democratically own a means of production, but for there own private profit instead of the needs of a community?
I never understood Mutualism either so I can't help you out there.

From what I did understand though it was incredibly idealistic. It wanted people to be paid equal wages, in a market economy.

[sunnieseason]

Not surprising to me.

[phuckphace]

It wanted people to be paid equal wages, in a market economy.

that's what I thought was so dumb about it. I'm not sure which is worse, a burger-flipper paid as much as a doctor, or a doctor paid as much as a burger-flipper?

[Capto]

Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

Not particularly surprised and such truck.

[twirlgurl]

So.... is this good or bad?? ?



http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.88&soc=-3.95

[phuckphace]

So.... is this good or bad?? ?

image (http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.88&soc=-3.95)

red = master race
blue = mainstream plebs
green = underage mainstream plebs
purple = $$$$I gEt MoNeY$$$$

take your pick :D

[Babs]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.75&soc=-5.33
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

VT is full of lefties.

[Vlerchan]

Have access to a PC again so: updated!

Except for sunnieseason, I can't add your score to the main chart without scores.

[WaffleSingSong]

So.... is this good or bad?? ?



image (http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.88&soc=-3.95)

Seems like you got the score of a typical Social Democrat from what it looks like (not as in U.S Democrat, but instead of Social Democracy, or democracy with moderate socialist tendencies.)

Your views are not too common in mainstream U.S politics, maybe only in the "progressive" fringes of the Democratic Party, but it is popular in practically everywhere else in the world. I don't consider it bad in my opinion in a ethical sense and I actually think these ideals are in the right heart. But if you can see on my position on the axis, I also believe that this ideology is very flawed.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Social_democracy Is a good site explaining what Social Democracy is in a nutshell.

[Vlerchan]

But if you can see on my position on the axis, I also believe that this ideology is very flawed.
I wouldn't mind an expansion here.

I also find social democrats preferable to large portions of the political spectrum personally.

[Hollywood]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.12&soc=-3.49

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49

Looks right to me. Actually, it looks left. But right. Correct. Never mind.

[Luminous]

Economic left/right: -1.12
Social libertarian/authoritarian: -2.41
It doesn't surprise me. I got basically what I was expecting. A bit farther right, maybe, but pretty close.

[WaffleSingSong]

I wouldn't mind an expansion here.

I also find social democrats preferable to large portions of the political spectrum personally.

It's just that there comes a time where redistribution is enough, in my opinion. Sure, I believe in a minimum safety net just so people at least have a home and decent, healthy food they can eat, as well as trinket money for inheritance, but I don't think it is right for the government to tax the crap out of the middle (especially) and higher classes just so we can make certain people of the lower class comfortable with being unemployed. I don't think that hard work is a guarantee for success, and luck does play a role in how you make it in life, but that does not mean that being lazy is excusable, which I know many working class people are not, as my father and brothers work hard and they like the working class life. But, there are still a lot of people who do abuse the welfare system (such as EVERY girlfriend my dad has had since my parents divorce,) at least in the States.

If you want to further the discussion, you can PM me, as I would like for this forum to stay a bit on topic.

[Stronk Serb]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.12&soc=3.90

Here's me
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.90

[phuckphace]

image (http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.12&soc=3.90)

Here's me
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.90

I'd say you're as close to me as any VTer is going to get :lol3: not bad brah

[Plane And Simple]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.12&soc=-3.08

[Vlerchan]

Updated again. It's starting to get pretty messy down on the underage pleb side.

I also just took a guess at sunnieseason's scores. It looks close enough to me. I do wonder how she such's an authoritarian though.

I also remember the days when Mike was a decent commie. I always did think his posting had Fascistic undertones though..

[HUSTLEMAN]

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertar ian/ Authoritarian:-1.54

[Stronk Serb]

Updated again. It's starting to get pretty messy down on the underage pleb side.

I also just took a guess at sunnieseason's scores. It looks close enough to me. I do wonder how she such's an authoritarian though.

I also remember the days when Mike was a decent commie. I always did think his posting had Fascistic undertones though..


I was disgruntled by democracy after the parliamentary elections of 2014. We're slowly but steadily ceasing to exist as a functioning society here.

[Gamma Male]

http://209.20.70.21/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-8.12&soc=-6.21

I identify as a market socialist and social liberal. I'm probably a bit more authoritarian than what the test says.

[amgb]

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

[phuckphace]

I was disgruntled by democracy after the parliamentary elections of 2014. We're slowly but steadily ceasing to exist as a functioning society here.

hey, same here! that feel.

[Horatio Nelson]

phuckphace Glad to see I'm apart of the master race. :D :P

[Katie96xox]

http://209.20.70.21/printablegraph?ec=8.88&soc=5.95

Economic Left/Right: 8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.95

[Henry VIII]

Economic Left/Right: -14.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46


Why/how is my score off the chart?

[Gamma Male]

Economic Left/Right: -14.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46


Why/how is my score off the chart?
Holy shit, even Marx wasn't that far left. Are you a borg or something?

[phuckphace]

I think that might be a joke picture.

[Henry VIII]

It is definitely real phuckphace! I did the test yesterday!

[Typhlosion]

I can't see most of the charts, niether the crowd chart.

Also Vlerchan Abyssal Echo is written as Abysmal echo in the OP.

[Vlerchan]

Typhlosion: I'm the same: can't see anything. I really do hope that I don't have to re-do all the details/: Thanks for pointing that out too.

I identify as a market socialist and social liberal. I'm probably a bit more authoritarian than what the test says.
How's market socialist being defined here?

I've seen multiple conflicting definitions.

[Gamma Male]

Typhlosion: I'm the same: can't see anything. I really do hope that I don't have to re-do all the details/: Thanks for pointing that out too.


How's market socialist being defined here?

I've seen multiple conflicting definitions.

Worker owned coops competing against each other in open markets. More consequentialist and mutualistic property norms more or less based on use. I don't have any problem with a strong government intervening in the market to prevent concentration of wealth. I think preventive measures and laws that ensure everyone is fairly compensated for their labor and able to make a living are generally more efficient than government safety nets.

[WaffleSingSong]

Economic Left/Right: -14.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46


Why/how is my score off the chart?

Marx knew this day would come...

...Congratulations, you have reached left-wing transcendence. You are the Chosen One, the one we've all been waiting for. You must go to Wall Street now to kill the Bourgeois menace once and for all to strike fear into the hearts of the capitalist pigs before it is too late. Remember, we, the Proletariat, have faith in you!

All joking aside, it could just be a glitch. You could try taking it again and see what happens.

[Vlerchan]

I would appreciate if this wasn't locked for this bump. I'm using information found in this thread so it's just easier to have it as a point of reference. Thank you in advance.

Ok. So I've mentioned before how I'm interested in correlating people's political preferences to their personalities. What I've decided would be a good idea is if I took the scores from the political compass test and then had the same people (and further volunteers) do the myer-briggs personality test (http://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test) and post the exact scoring. I would then run a regression and check to see to what extent coefficients from the myer-briggs test are significant with relation to social and economic scoring.

Sound cool? Cool.

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Edit,

So, for example, with relation to the myer-briggs test, I scored:

E: 44%
N: 62%
T: 59%
P: 88%

Simple right?

[lyhom]

don't think this will be locked, I'm almost sure that the OP of a thread can bump it however much they like

my results were

I: 29%
N: 9%
F: 25%
P: 46%

[Fritos43]

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.88&soc=-3.59
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The Myer-Briggs Results:
I: 89%
N: 79%
F: 7%
P: 35%

[Atom]

The hell is this pseudoscience? I'm down.
I: 12% N: 66% T: 8% P: 46% - A: 46%

http://i.imgur.com/qWJuOQb.png

[Vlerchan]

The hell is this pseudoscience? I'm down.
If someone can think of better proxies I'm good to use them.

[Atom]

If someone can think of better proxies I'm good to use them.
It was a joke. I actually like Myers–Briggs' test. However, both of these test are inconsistent and very dependent on the person's position in a society. But what can I say, an INTP who prefers intuition better than sensing~

[World Eater]

My results:
Your personality type: “The Mediator” (INFP-T)
Strength of individual traits: Introverted: 66%, Intuitive: 22%, Feeling: 71%, Prospecting: 39%, Turbulent: 58%.
Role: Diplomat
Strategy: Constant Improvement