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ComfortableInChaos
December 21st, 2014, 08:50 AM
Hear me out, this is a concept that I've seen many times online and in real life. People getting discriminated against because of race happens all the time, but do you believe that it can happen to white people? How about white privilege, do you believe that white people have a true privilege over other races?

I'm not sure if this has been posted here before or not (or even if it's a good topic to bring up) but I was arguing with a couple adults that white people ARE discriminated against at some point. It may not happen every day, hell, might not happen once a week or even once a month, but it still happens. I'd just like to see a teenage response, just to see where we're at with different generations, granted these people are ages 20-30.

Also, you might wanna read into some of this stuff, I've read an article recently that I'll link below that made a ton of sense to me.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/eric-altschuler/2014/04/18-things-people-dont-seem-to-get-about-white-people-because-racism/

Personally, I think anyone can be discriminated against because of race, at any point in time, it's just not as common as certain minority groups being racially discriminated against.

Maybe this isn't a good topic to bring here, but I think it'd be interesting to see what other people in my age group thought.

There's no need to insult anyone or offend anyone, please try to keep it at bay with your answers, I don't wanna see someone get offended and pissed off or something, I just wanna read a debate on this subject.

Magus
December 21st, 2014, 08:58 AM
It has been studied, if you have a White or Jewish sounding name, you are more likely to be hired although there maybe someone who have a higher qualification than you.

It's favoritism more or less.

They are hardly discriminated against, in my region, they are treated like Kings and Queens, even if they are just common people.

They get a pass at airports, they are hardly checked at police checking points. As long as you have a rosy white skin, you got nothing to fear(Except ISIS ofc).

Saint of Sinners
December 21st, 2014, 09:17 AM
It exists, though it's rare. Maybe in places that white people might not be so popular. Or some sites where they go on about straight white males and white privilege. Yes, white people might have better opportunities in life as of now, but instead of bitching about it, why not focus on giving opportunities to people of every race too.

For the record i have the exact same disdain for people that are racist against any race. It's just wrong.

phuckphace
December 21st, 2014, 09:31 AM
It has been studied, if you have a White or Jewish sounding name, you are more likely to be hired although there maybe someone who have a higher qualification than you.

sounds like bullshit to me. most business owners these days would vastly prefer to hire a van full of illegal immigrants (or even legitimately) because Graham Wellington III would want more than 2 bucks an hour.

They are hardly discriminated against, in my region, they are treated like Kings and Queens, even if they are just common people.

:lol3:

"ya want fries with that?" *bored grumble*
"no thanks"
"k have a nice day" *back is already turned*

They get a pass at airports

this is superficially false, any white person who has ever taken a plane flight has been fingered, fisted and diddled by TSA agents (who then picked their pockets). you really gotta quit getting your info from Tumblr.

even if racial profiling at airports was practiced and enforced, it would make sense to do so because Islam is not very popular among whites and therefore the statistical likelihood of Graham Wellington III being a would-be hijacker vs. Sheik Abdul Hassan al-Wahid is much lower. you do realize Islam is primarily a Semitic and Asian religion, right? just because you think everyone should be treated equally doesn't mean it's always practical to do so.

Vlerchan
December 21st, 2014, 10:18 AM
I use these definitions. These are the definitions most commonly used in sociology.

Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. In terms of race it can be dumbed-down to unwarranted dislike of people as a result of their race. It's a feeling.

Discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. In terms of race it can be dumbed-down to the unwarranted mistreatment of a person as a result of their race. It's an action or series of actions.

Racism: is a system of categorical privileged, as defined in sociology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Sociological). It can be be dumbed-down to the unwarranted and systematic mistreatment though social institutions, beliefs or otherwise of a people as a result of their race. It's a system.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2911984&postcount=8

In countries like America where white people predominantly hold the economic and political power racism against white people cannot exist. However race-based discrimination still can happen against whites and it would be ridiculous to suggest it can't. In countries like Japan or Korea where ethnic-Japanese/Asians predominantly hold economic and political power then racism against whites can and does exist.

Looking at the article you posted.

“White” privilege is being able to move into any neighborhood you choose, knowing that your neighbors will welcome you and treat you warmly. Unless, of course, you move into one of the many neighborhoods in New York City where “whites” are not welcomed. Just look at Crown Heights, Brooklyn, home to both a “Black”/Caribbean community, and a “White”/Hasidic-Jewish community.
I agree that there are some neighbourhoods that it's hard for whites to move into. I think it's important to note that these neighbourhoods are in the minority: by-and-large black people continue to face discrimination in housing on the basis of race-based stereotyping perpetuated against them.

In the case of blacks it's widespread and systematic whilst in the case of Jewish people it's scarce and individualised (a specific basis is offered). That does't make discrimination against whites "better" or "worse" but it does mean that it's not racism.

Here in New York there are very few people who identify as “white,” or exhibit any sort of “white” pride. There are, however, plenty of Italians, Irish, Albanians, Jews, Greeks, Poles and Russians, none of whom seem to be overrepresented or spoken for by any media.
This is ridiculous.

Irish-American heritage groups yields 2,090,000 (https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=irish+american+heritage+groups&spell=1). On a political level you then have the Irish-American lobby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish-American_lobby) among others.

“White” privilege means being able to seek and obtain legal, financial and medical assistance without having your race work against you. You will, however, have your income, credit score, education, genetic health, physical appearance, religion, accent and political views work against you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Because identifiers beyond black and white do exist.

“White” privilege means living in a world where the standard of beauty is defined by people who share your skin tone, because all “white” people are creamy-colored Scandinavians with blonde hair and blue eyes. Just don’t tell the multi-million dollar tanning industry…
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--0zLBb4eY--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/19fp4khtl4r97png.png

“White” privilege is never being told that you should “Get over slavery.” This is actually a valid point, I totally agree. Having said that, “white” privilege may also mean that people tell you they are sick and tired of hearing about your Holocausts and Kosovos.
I call "anecdotal evidence".

“White” privilege means that you get to laugh at all of the immigrants and “colored” people who come to your country and fail to learn English, while enjoying the benefit of automatically being fluent. Of course, that is with the small exception of every single “white” immigrant who comes to this country (or came to this country) from a foreign state that doesn’t speak English, such as Russia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Germany, Turkey, etc. Not too mention all of the “non-white” people who continue to ridicule and even attack new immigrants to this country who do not speak English (do a Google search on Black-Mexican relations in Port Richmond, Staten Island.)
What?

I don't even get this point. If you want to re-word feel free to do so.

“White” privilege is daring to actually believe that reverse racism exists. Except for, you know, those cases in which it does exist. Like in the Nation of Islam and Black Hebrew Israelite supremacist groups. Or all those times when I walked through Jamaica, Queens, Wyandanch, Long Island, and Far Rockaway, Queens and was kindly informed that I was “in the wrong neighborhood, White Boy.”
In sociological term racism against whites objectively doesn't exist in the US.

“White” privilege is never feeling the pain and dehumanization of being subjected to a racial slur. …Micks, Kykes, Crackers, Greaseballs, Guidos, Hebes, Blockheads, Oven Magnets, Honkeys, Dagos, Dogans, Gringos, Guineas and Ginzos excluded.
I agree individual instances of race-based discrimination exist.

It's also funny because with the exception of one slur there (crackers) they're all ethnicgroup-specific.

“White” privilege is never having to change your name into an easier-to-pronounce Anglo-Saxon name. Unless, of course, the origin of your last name is Yiddish, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Hungarian, Polish, Icelandic, or many of the hundreds of other names that “white” people who are not of Anglo-Saxon origin bear.
I'm sure non-Anglo-Saxons are disprivledged on this basis.

Indeed grouping all light-skinned peoples together as “white” is an error in its own right, in case you haven’t yet gathered that this far into the article.)
Race is a social construct. What "white" means is up to the society.

There was a stage where Irish people where considered distinct from white people and Irish people did receive widespread and systematic race-based discrimination (racism).

This of course is not the case anymore today.

“White” privilege is having your words and actions attributed to you as an individual rather than as a group or a collective race. That is to say that when one “white” person errs and acts like a complete schmuck, their error is not projected onto all “whites” as a whole. Unless, that is, their name is Bernard Madoff, George Zimmerman, George Bush, Bill O’Reilly, Newt Gingrich, Jonathan Pollard, Meir Kahane… Okay, so maybe not then.
Em.. I'm going to want some sort of evidence for this claim.

“White” privilege is being able to talk about the subject of racism without people automatically assuming that your intentions are self-serving.
This happens.

“White” privilege is being able to be an articulate, intelligent-sounding speaker without people being shocked and surprised. This does not apply to you, however, if you are “white” and from anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line, west of the Appalachians, or surrounding the New York and Boston metropolitan areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Because identifiers beyond black and white do exist.

“White” privilege means not having to warn your children at an early age about the dangers of systematic racism. This one is very easy to disprove. Just ask all of the “white” Bosnian Muslim, Armenian, Jewish and Roma parents who had to explain to their children why the world hates them and why it was so easy for the world to turn a blind eye while their respective populations were systematically wiped out over the course of the last century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Because identifiers beyond black and white do exist.

Needless to say, this is not achieved by relegating an entire group’s history and culture to a single month and it is Definitely not achieved by acting as thought they need/are owed special assistance from “mainstream” society to get into better colleges and careers.
I agree with him here.

“White” privilege means not having your people and their culture appropriated, generalized and turned into some kind of a minstrel show for others to laugh at. Well, you know, except for the Jersey Shore, Honey Boo Boo, Princesses of Long Island, Duck Dynasty, etc.
What a ridiculous claim to make. I don't think anyone considers any of these reflections of "white culture".

“White” privilege means being able to ignore the consequences of race. But actually, nobody can ignore the consequences of race so long as they live on a planet and in a society where race is assumed to exist.
I don't see the point in pretending that race doesn't exist when currently people's race factors into their outcomes, yes.

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I'm in a rush so this is an imperfect response. I might edit later.

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sounds like bullshit to me.
http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

Magus
December 21st, 2014, 10:48 AM
sounds like bullshit to me. most business owners these days would vastly prefer to hire a van full of illegal immigrants (or even legitimately) because Graham Wellington III would want more than 2 bucks an hour.

Van full of Legal/Illegal immigrants for manual labor and not for a white collar jobs.


:lol3:

"ya want fries with that?" *bored grumble*
"no thanks"
"k have a nice day" *back is already turned*

gr8 b8 m8 ir8 14/88 :drunk:


this is superficially false, any white person who has ever taken a plane flight has been fingered, fisted and diddled by TSA agents (who then picked their pockets). you really gotta quit getting your info from Tumblr.

I guess you forgot "in my region". I am not talking about United States of police force airports. :usflag:


even if racial profiling at airports was practiced and enforced, it would make sense to do so because Islam is not very popular among whites and therefore the statistical likelihood of Graham Wellington III being a would-be hijacker vs. Sheik Abdul Hassan al-Wahid is much lower. you do realize Islam is primarily a Semitic and Asian religion, right? just because you think everyone should be treated equally doesn't mean it's always practical to do so.

Yeah, but Islam is very popular in my region(:arabia:), and they(Graham Willington the Third's kind) still get the best services out there. If you wear an overall with horse dung on it, you'd still have the red carpet unrolled for you.

ComfortableInChaos
December 21st, 2014, 10:56 AM
“White” privilege means that you get to laugh at all of the immigrants and “colored” people who come to your country and fail to learn English, while enjoying the benefit of automatically being fluent. Of course, that is with the small exception of every single “white” immigrant who comes to this country (or came to this country) from a foreign state that doesn’t speak English, such as Russia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Germany, Turkey, etc. Not too mention all of the “non-white” people who continue to ridicule and even attack new immigrants to this country who do not speak English (do a Google search on Black-Mexican relations in Port Richmond, Staten Island.)
What?

I don't even get this point. If you want to re-word feel free to do so

I think what they were trying to say is that a lot of times, white people are thought to say "Go back home" or make fun of people who don't know or speak English as well as Americans, native to the language, but that's actually false, just Google what they said to Google and you'll find proof. They were claiming that it's not only white Americans, but it's also people of other races that do so, as well.

Also, I haven't finished reading your post, but if I were you, I wouldn't use Wikipedia as much as you do because it's not 100% a reliable source. Just a tip :)

Stronk Serb
December 21st, 2014, 10:59 AM
Here Gypsies who finish high school with or under moderate grade get free university studies. It looks like an incentive to get them studying but gypsies who go to university studies are by large majority those with straight As and a few Bs. It sort of ain't fair to the rest of us if 1-2% of the student population were slacking off on subsidized studies. If you don't show results, the subsidies are off for you and those 1-2% are free until they graduate, be it in 3 or 30 years. It's also unfair to other studying gypsies who are shedding blood and tears studying.

Vlerchan
December 21st, 2014, 11:50 AM
I think what they were trying to say is that a lot of times, white people are thought to say "Go back home" or make fun of people who don't know or speak English as well as Americans, native to the language, but that's actually false, just Google what they said to Google and you'll find proof.
I get it now.

The main problem with the article is the author presumes that when someone is discussing white privilege that someone means that whites have an absolute advantage over blacks (etc.) as a result of being white. This is not what this person means. What this person means is that being white is more advantageous than being black but other factors might mean that it's possible for a white person to be at a net social disadvantage.

Also, I haven't finished reading your post, but if I were you, I wouldn't use Wikipedia as much as you do because it's not 100% a reliable source. Just a tip.
I'm using Wikipedia to establish definitions. I'm not using it as a basis for an argument.

phuckphace
December 21st, 2014, 06:30 PM
I'm seeing more of the politicized definition of racism here, still dank from the academic PAC that produced it. Wikipedia is thick with this kind of stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory


CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture. This is the analytical lens that CRT uses in examining existing power structures. CRT identifies that these power structures are based on white privilege and white supremacy, which perpetuates the marginalization of people of color.

anyone with even a passing knowledge of history and group interaction knows that racism and discrimination are a constant wherever and whenever two or more groups overlap. in-group preference is a trait because it is evolutionarily advantageous and aids in societal stability. but here they talk about racism and discrimination as if its presence in the fabric of American society were something perversely unique and specific to WASPs.

http://www.pewforum.org/2014/07/16/how-americans-feel-about-religious-groups/

note which group is at the top of the list. this is in spite of the fact that Professor Goldberg can't stop talking about how racist and discriminatory American culture is *makes six figures a year*

also note which groups are at the bottom. atheists are second-lowest, and atheism isn't even a religion or race. Mormons, who are white and actually have more in common with American Christians than the latter would care to admit, are held lower than Buddhists :lol3:

one more fun fact! did you know that African Americans voted majority "yes" on Proposition 8 in California? why would one oppressed group want to take rights away from another oppressed group? it's almost like humans are biased or something.

Van full of Legal/Illegal immigrants for manual labor and not for a white collar jobs.

most whites are working or lower-middle class, and compete directly with immigrant labor for jobs.

I guess you forgot "in my region". I am not talking about United States of police force airports. :usflag: Yeah, but Islam is very popular in my region(:arabia:), and they(Graham Willington the Third's kind) still get the best services out there. If you wear an overall with horse dung on it, you'd still have the red carpet unrolled for you.

it would be helpful if you explain where exactly "my region" is. I don't know of any predominately Islamic countries that still have a white ruling class.

CosmicNoodle
December 21st, 2014, 06:33 PM
I just think everyone should calm the fuck down when it comes to racism, I fail to see how other peoples words (99% of the time words of idiots) can upset you.

Vlerchan
December 21st, 2014, 07:12 PM
I'm seeing more of the politicized definition of racism here, still dank from the academic PAC that produced it.
:)

anyone with even a passing knowledge of history and group interaction knows that racism and discrimination are a constant wherever and whenever two or more groups overlap.
So what?

in-group preference is a trait because it is evolutionarily advantageous and aids in societal stability.
You'll need to explain this one.

but here they talk about racism and discrimination as if its presence in the fabric of American society were something perversely unique and specific to WASPs.
In every long post I make about racism I make an effort to point out racism being perpetuated by non-whites so people don't have an excuse to make claims like this.

In the above post I referred to the Japanese.

note which group is at the top of the list.
Jewish people don't tend to be counted as a disprivileged group.

In the article linked in the OP the author counts Jewish people among the Whites.

why would one oppressed group want to take rights away from another oppressed group?
While the U.S. is generally considered a highly religious nation, African-Americans are markedly more religious on a variety of measures than the U.S. population as a whole, including level of affiliation with a religion, attendance at religious services, frequency of prayer and religion’s importance in life. Compared with other racial and ethnic groups, African-Americans are among the most likely to report a formal religious affiliation, with fully 87% of African-Americans describing themselves as belonging to one religious group or another, according to the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, conducted in 2007 by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life. Latinos also report affiliating with a religion at a similarly high rate of 85%; among the public overall, 83% are affiliated with a religion.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/01/30/a-religious-portrait-of-african-americans/

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I just think everyone should calm the fuck down when it comes to racism, I fail to see how other peoples words (99% of the time words of idiots) can upset you.
It's a lot more than words.

CosmicNoodle
December 21st, 2014, 07:25 PM
It's a lot more than words.

I'm talking from a purely vocal racism perspective, obviously hate crime, violence, inequality are problems, but I'm saying, people take to much offence over simple words. I thought that was obvious, apparently not.

Vlerchan
December 21st, 2014, 07:27 PM
I'm talking from a purely vocal racism perspective, obviously hate crime, violence, inequality are problems, but I'm saying, people take to much offence over simple words. I thought that was obvious, apparently not.
Sorry. I thought you were trying to make a relevant contribution to any of the above.

Moving on anyway.

thatcountrykid
December 21st, 2014, 10:29 PM
I just think everyone should calm the fuck down when it comes to racism, I fail to see how other peoples words (99% of the time words of idiots) can upset you.

one thing we agree on. do you guys here the world breaking?

CosmicNoodle
December 21st, 2014, 10:33 PM
one thing we agree on. do you guys here the world breaking?

Wait...we agree....
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f1/f17ff7c5ef2b35e22d4df1d255bdf97bacd5fce6feffa4a0aeafe1cff9e2e39f.jpg

obviously I'm not saying people should say nasty things based on race, that's just fucking stupid, but I do think that people take words to seriously, people regularly call me "white cracker bitch", I don't even give a shit, I fail to see how words bother people, but that's just me

Babs
December 21st, 2014, 11:44 PM
I don't believe that racism against white people exists at this point in time in the world. We live in a white-dominated society (or at least North America and Europe are, dunno about the other continents.) and whatever "racism" white people get is usually very minuscule and trivial, such as white people jokes.
People can say "white people suck" every single day but white people still hold institutional, and economical power, nothing changes. However, when someone says "black people suck" they're reinforcing the white-dominated society, and thus, it matters.
The concept of "reverse racism" is so inane.

fairmaiden
December 22nd, 2014, 05:51 AM
I just think everyone should calm the fuck down when it comes to racism, I fail to see how other peoples words (99% of the time words of idiots) can upset you.
It's not just words, it's unfair treatment.

I think this is an example of how you've probably never been discriminated against, because if you had been discriminated against, you would be able to understand the humiliation and pain.
Sure, if someone calls me the n-word over the internet, I'm not going to burst into tears about it. If someone says to me face-to-face that I'm a worthless n-word, etc. it would hurt.
A teacher has even gone so far as to make a remark which can be perceived as a death threat towards me, just because of how I look.
It's much worse than an overweight person being told that they're a fat fuck or something like that; because almost always, they can change their weight. Black people can't change being black.
Racism obviously goes alot deeper than this and I don't really understand why you feel the need to trivialise the matter... racism is racism, and it's not acceptable.
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I think it is possible, however it's usually either done out of hostility from the Slavery era or it's just done out of spite. I don't see it happen often though.

In my opinion, there is a much higher chance of a minority being discriminated against than a white person. In certain areas where there is a significantly large amount of minorities compared to a white person, then ''discrimination'' may occur, but tbh I don't even see it as ''discrimination''.

CosmicNoodle
December 22nd, 2014, 10:28 AM
It's not just words, it's unfair treatment.


Ohh for god sake, will people read my hole argument before telling me that, if you took the time to read what I've said throuought this hole thread you'd see that I did day that things like violence, unfair treatments ect ect where wrong, !y argument is purely against vocial abuse here,

Take the time to read someone's argument in hole before replying

fairmaiden
December 22nd, 2014, 09:52 PM
Ohh for god sake, will people read my hole argument before telling me that, if you took the time to read what I've said throuought this hole thread you'd see that I did day that things like violence, unfair treatments ect ect where wrong, !y argument is purely against vocial abuse here,

Take the time to read someone's argument in hole before replying
Vocal abuse is degrading, and it affects people emotionally. I read your ''hole'' argument and I still stand by my point.

Plus;
I just think everyone should calm the fuck down when it comes to racism
appears to generalise racism, rather than just focusing on verbal racism.

Aajj333
December 23rd, 2014, 12:50 AM
1) you cannot be racist towards a white person because they have never been historically oppressed for just being white

2) there is definetly white privilege. It is a privilege to be able to carry a gun in a Wallmart in an open carry state. It is privilege not having to fear for your life if you get pulled over for speeding. It is a privilege being the majority representation in the U.S. government.

Edit: the more I thought about it, you can be racist towards a white person as immigrants have historically been persecuted

one thing we agree on. do you guys here the world breaking?

Also, being able to support a racist cop is white privilege.

Please use the 'edit' button next time. ~Typhlosion

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 01:59 AM
Also, being able to support a racist cop is white privilege.

What the fuck are you even talkig about. Where did that come from?

Horizon
December 23rd, 2014, 02:07 AM
I see a lot of definition changing, etc. Which makes me upset. You can be racist against anyone, as any race. The entire definition of the world, which pertains to the whole world, not just America. In America, yes, a lot of the racism in society is systematic and institutionalized, but America does NOT equal the whole world. White privilege is probably common in every white dominated society, North america, Europe, etc. Whilst if you went down to the Philippines, they would kill you for being white. My friend who visits her family there often is so scared of how they feel about white people, she doesn't say anything in public. Whilst here in America, an african-american man is more likely to plan his outfit and his speech patterns in a way that will lead to less chances of him getting hurt.

And yeah, I am not sure how I feel about white privilege, because I can definitely see how it exists, but is that to say that because I am white I am more privileged than Laverne Cox, who technically by SJWs scale should be incredibly more oppressed than me? I think most privilege comes from class and social standing, as well. Privilege comes from more areas, than just middle and lower class america. So on the topic of both, yes you can be racist against white people, and I guess yeah to some degree I feel there is white privilege. But if we only take a look at one small area of variables to define a whole, we are missing the point.

Magus
December 23rd, 2014, 10:16 AM
most whites are working or lower-middle class, and compete directly with immigrant labor for jobs.

Most whites? Sheeeeeiit. I thought it was just the Southerner whites.

it would be helpful if you explain where exactly "my region" is. I don't know of any predominately Islamic countries that still have a white ruling class.

Oil rich gulf countries. They are not "ruling" per se, but have more advantages compared to others, let us say, South Asians.

Stronk Serb
December 23rd, 2014, 04:18 PM
1) you cannot be racist towards a white person because they have never been historically oppressed for just being white

2) there is definetly white privilege. It is a privilege to be able to carry a gun in a Wallmart in an open carry state. It is privilege not having to fear for your life if you get pulled over for speeding. It is a privilege being the majority representation in the U.S. government.

Edit: the more I thought about it, you can be racist towards a white person as immigrants have historically been persecuted

Racism isn't about historical oppression, it's simply hating a race, be it white, black or asian. There are black racists (in some African countries whites are at risk for their lives), there are white racists and there are asian racists.

ComfortableInChaos
December 25th, 2014, 08:57 PM
I wanna bring something up when I had this debate with someone the other day. He used said that "white discrimination is well deserved from hundreds of years," to which I responded "By that logic, you're saying that Americans enslaving Africans was justifiable, since Africans enslaves 1,000,000+ Europeans in the later 1500s." He really didn't know how to respond to that. What's your opinions/thoughts on that?

Abhorrence
December 25th, 2014, 09:02 PM
Tumblr hates white people.

Attacker3
December 25th, 2014, 09:40 PM
I personally believe that anything is possible in this world. The fact that people put other races below them means that it must happen to white people too. It's truly a subject that is more based on opinion, but that is just me.

Babs
December 26th, 2014, 12:41 PM
Tumblr hates white people.

The rest of the world doesn't.

Abhorrence
December 26th, 2014, 09:41 PM
The rest of the world doesn't.

Ikr.

Babs
December 26th, 2014, 10:44 PM
Ikr.

My point is, people always whine about white people jokes or "reverse racism" on tumblr when the rest of the world is pretty much the opposite, so white people don't have much to complain about when it comes to tumblr.

Abhorrence
December 27th, 2014, 07:49 AM
My point is, people always whine about white people jokes or "reverse racism" on tumblr when the rest of the world is pretty much the opposite, so white people don't have much to complain about when it comes to tumblr.

I just find it funny because the people hating white people on Tumblr are white people.

Small town girl
March 27th, 2015, 10:00 AM
1. Reverse Racism does not, and i repeat, DOES NOT exist. So why cant you be racist against white people? Because whenever a white person gets discriminated against because of their race (which by the way does not happen at all as often as a colored person gets discriminated) its not the result of a societal norm. Its not rooted in how we as a society view people of different races. What i mean by this is how we see that colored people are less powerful in our society, and sometimes wont get called for for example a job interview because of a non-western name. Their competence to do the job is questioned by the country they studied in. When a white person gets discriminated because of race its not the aftermath of hundreds of years of oppression. Thats why you never can be racist against white peopl, but white people can be discriminated. Because racism is the name of the structure, just like the patriarchy (i.e. sexism). :lol::whoops::cool:

2. White privilege definetly exist. As a white man, you're a person. As a colored man, you're a colored person. As a colored woman, you're a colored woman, and as a white woman, you're a woman. You barely hear people say: you, know, that white girl! When describing a persons looks.

tinybird
March 31st, 2015, 08:08 PM
racism against white people doesn't exist, at least not in america.

dirtyboxer55
March 31st, 2015, 09:41 PM
My point is, people always whine about white people jokes or "reverse racism" on tumblr when the rest of the world is pretty much the opposite, so white people don't have much to complain about when it comes to tumblr.

i never understood why people say "don't have much to complain about" just because someone has it worse. like seriously if i get the flu im not gonna not complain that im bed ridden for a week just because people die of it in other places lol

Vocabulous
March 31st, 2015, 09:56 PM
Oh fuck I forgot how many of you people also go on tumblr. I need everyone to go and look up the definition of racism real quick. Nevermind I got it here:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

You can easily be racist to people of every race, wether they be white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. saying that all black people are worthless laze-a-bouts is racist. Saying all white people are scumbag crooks who want to enslave the world is also racist. Al sharpton is an excellent example of a person who is racist to white people.

phuckphace
March 31st, 2015, 11:31 PM
2. White privilege definetly exist. As a white man, you're a person. As a colored man, you're a colored person. As a colored woman, you're a colored woman, and as a white woman, you're a woman. You barely hear people say: you, know, that white girl! When describing a persons looks.

:lol3:

have you considered that maybe, just maybe, skin color is a convenient descriptor and doesn't always carry racist connotations?

in an area where the majority of people are white, saying "that white guy" or "that white girl" isn't specific enough, which is why other physical descriptors are used to differentiate between individual whites ("the fat guy", "the redhead chick", etc.)

but yeah leave it to Sweden to post something like this :lol3: how's Mona Sahlin doing, has she mastered Arabic yet? not to worry, eventually Sweden will have so few whites that this privilege won't be an issue.

Vlerchan
April 1st, 2015, 01:45 AM
rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
In modern discourse this is referred to as Racialism.

Here's something I wrote about the term racism and its close relatives as used in academia.

Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. In terms of race it can be dumbed-down to unwarranted dislike of people as a result of their race. It's a feeling.

Discrimination: the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. In terms of race it can be dumbed-down to the unwarranted mistreatment of a person as a result of their race. It's an action or series of actions.

Racism: is a system of categorical privileged, as defined in sociology [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Sociological). It can be be dumbed-down to the unwarranted and systematic mistreatment though social institutions, beliefs or otherwise of a people as a result of their race. It's a system.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2911984&postcount=8

I would suggest reading the thread before disagreeing too.

Small town girl
April 1st, 2015, 03:24 PM
not to worry, eventually Sweden will have so few whites that this privilege won't be an issue.


Well, that's the Goal isn't it? :cool::cool::cool:

dirtyboxer55
April 1st, 2015, 04:01 PM
Well, that's the Goal isn't it? :cool::cool::cool:

you people used to be vikings... :(

phuckphace
April 1st, 2015, 05:19 PM
you people used to be vikings... :(

I'm just thankful that the Internet is around to give us a preview of what progressive fundamentalism does to a country when taken to its logical conclusion. I feel like if I ever visited Sweden they'd confiscate my balls at the airport

Horatio Nelson
April 1st, 2015, 05:28 PM
Please do not post in threads that have been inactive for more than 2 months. :locked: