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Exocet
December 20th, 2014, 05:09 PM
Two New York City police officers have been killed by a lone gunman as they sat in their parked patrol car.

Both officers were shot in the head in the Bedford-Stuyvesant neighbourhood of Brooklyn, law enforcement sources told Sky News.

The suspect then fatally shot himself as responding officers pursued him into a nearby subway station, authorities said.

"It breaks my heart to report that we have received confirmation that the two NYPD officers shot earlier today have died," Nicol Malliotakis, the New York Assembly member for Brooklyn and Staten Island, said in a statement posted on Facebook.

"Please keep in your thoughts & prayers the families of these two innocent, selfless officers who gave their lives to serve & protect us."

Local media reports, citing witnesses, said the shooter approached the officers and began firing point-blank.

Police have not yet commented on a possible motive.

The shooting comes amid heightened tension in New York and across the country over police tactics following the chokehold death of Eric Garner and the shooting death of Michael Brown in Missouri.

Several officers have been assaulted at New York City protests during demonstrations that have largely been peaceful.

http://news.sky.com/story/1395467/two-nypd-officers-killed-in-patrol-car-ambush

CosmicNoodle
December 20th, 2014, 05:18 PM
All I can say, is that after the appealing job the police in America do, and the shit storm they have been creating lately, this does in no way surprise me, don't get me wrong, its bad that it happened, supposedly, but it doesn't surprise me.

Could this be a sort of pathetic revenge attempt after the spree of killings by the police? A poorly made and pure evil comment on the way society reacts to death based on position and power? Or just a cold blooded killing for the sake of it.

I do find it funny though "gave there life's to serve and protect us", spewing that line of bullshit again are we? The police don't serve and protect, they do nothing but keep a scared population in line by force and threats. Just saying.


Honestly, I don't care about this story at all, nor for the family's of the officers. Call me evil if you will, I'm not going g to sit here and pretend to care like the rest of the population.

thatcountrykid
December 20th, 2014, 05:36 PM
All I can say, is that after the appealing job the police in America do, and the shit storm they have been creating lately, this does in no way surprise me, don't get me wrong, its bad that it happened, supposedly, but it doesn't surprise me.

Could this be a sort of pathetic revenge attempt after the spree of killings by the police? A poorly made and pure evil comment on the way society reacts to death based on position and power? Or just a cold blooded killing for the sake of it.

I do find it funny though "gave there life's to serve and protect us", spewing that line of bullshit again are we? The police don't serve and protect, they do nothing but keep a scared population in line by force and threats. Just saying.


Honestly, I don't care about this story at all, nor for the family's of the officers. Call me evil if you will, I'm not going g to sit here and pretend to care like the rest of the population.

I'm sorry what do you mean by supposedly? And they have by far done more to help people than some people who think they're smart cause they hide behind a keyboard half way around the world.

CosmicNoodle
December 20th, 2014, 05:52 PM
I'm sorry what do you mean by supposedly? And they have by far done more to help people than some people who think they're smart cause they hide behind a keyboard half way around the world.

Do you really want to start another argument? I'm too high to care right now, but I shall attempt anyway.

I say supposedly, because for all we know, they may have been good cops or bad cops, the sort of cop who actually serves and protects, or the sort of cop who loves waving his dick at civs, as far as I'm concerned, if it's the later, I give no shits what so ever. However, if they are proven to be good cops, then yes, I will agree with you, the ides that this is a tragedy, is correct. But u till I'm presented with evidence for ether side, good or bad, I shall use the term supposedly to describe it. If you don't like it, feel free to write an angry letter, and shove it deeply I to your rectum.

And what is it with you and pseudo-insults? I am aware they do more then me, I never claimed anything different, why do you always decide to inject the idea I think I'm a more important member of society than them than them?I never said that, or even implyed it. And I don't think I'm smart, my IQ test proved I'm smart (just saying), I don't hide behind my keybored, I use it to explore the parts of the world outside my reach, and one more thing, its a little less than half way around the world,

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phuckphace
December 20th, 2014, 05:54 PM
another Calhoun rat goes out with a bang (literally) and takes a couple other Calhoun rats with him. go USA I guess?

Vlerchan
December 20th, 2014, 06:10 PM
It's pretty disgusting regardless of whether these were "good" or "bad" cops.

Stronk Serb
December 20th, 2014, 10:59 PM
All I can say, is that after the appealing job the police in America do, and the shit storm they have been creating lately, this does in no way surprise me, don't get me wrong, its bad that it happened, supposedly, but it doesn't surprise me.

Could this be a sort of pathetic revenge attempt after the spree of killings by the police? A poorly made and pure evil comment on the way society reacts to death based on position and power? Or just a cold blooded killing for the sake of it.

I do find it funny though "gave there life's to serve and protect us", spewing that line of bullshit again are we? The police don't serve and protect, they do nothing but keep a scared population in line by force and threats. Just saying.


Honestly, I don't care about this story at all, nor for the family's of the officers. Call me evil if you will, I'm not going g to sit here and pretend to care like the rest of the population.

Make the rules and I will break 'em,
Give your orders, I won't take 'em.
I'm not gonna walk the line,
Fuck your system, it ain't mine.

The police here is is covering up a murder and financial crimes done by the PM's brother. I got stopped by some cops who wanted to take me in without a reason, hell I didn't even have my cigarettes.

Kahn
December 21st, 2014, 04:46 AM
Nobody should have to go this way. I hate to use the worn out proverb, but two wrongs don't make a right.

James Dean
December 21st, 2014, 05:56 AM
Very interesting that he basically said he was going to do this on his social media pages. So just some food for thought, pay close attention to those things and tweets and status updates that people make that don't seem like them. Deal with and understand the problem before it starts.

Sad that those two officers died.

Hideous
December 21st, 2014, 07:21 AM
This is just disgusting to see two NYPD officers assassinated. This is not how justice should be served, he clearly didn't know both of them, and it gives him no right to kill them for revenge. The gunman was a gang member who posted an image of a gun stating "he takes out one of ours, we take out two of theirs". Rest in peace to both officers and my condolences.

SethfromMI
December 21st, 2014, 05:08 PM
It's pretty disgusting regardless of whether these were "good" or "bad" cops.

this. besides, despite the bad cops put there, there are tons of good cops who actually take the job to protect and to serve the people. how anyone can justify something like this sickens me

Horatio Nelson
December 21st, 2014, 05:33 PM
:( This makes me so sad.

I know countless police officers, current and former. They give up so much of their life to protect the community and everyone who lives in it. Sure some may let the power go to their head, but the same is true for any job.

I believe this gunman doesn't reflect the true feelings of the people, or so I hope.

Uranus
December 21st, 2014, 06:41 PM
All I can say, is that after the appealing job the police in America do, and the shit storm they have been creating lately, this does in no way surprise me, don't get me wrong, its bad that it happened, supposedly, but it doesn't surprise me.

Could this be a sort of pathetic revenge attempt after the spree of killings by the police? A poorly made and pure evil comment on the way society reacts to death based on position and power? Or just a cold blooded killing for the sake of it.

I do find it funny though "gave there life's to serve and protect us", spewing that line of bullshit again are we? The police don't serve and protect, they do nothing but keep a scared population in line by force and threats. Just saying.


Honestly, I don't care about this story at all, nor for the family's of the officers. Call me evil if you will, I'm not going g to sit here and pretend to care like the rest of the population.


Honestly, I disagree with your statement. I don't care for cops myself and for certain reasons, but I do trust them and support them, trying to make everyone's community a safe environment for people... Even if some are not good cops. I know some officers, and the one I know is a great Indiana state trooper and he is a really nice guy, and he does more than enough for the community.

The police don't serve and protect, they do nothing but keep a scared population in line by force and threats. Just saying

Well if you don't think.. Wtf let me correct myself.

If you know that the cops are not doing a good job, then I would like to see you show them what they should be doing, because they are obviously not doing what they should. If you don't care about this situation why are you wasting your time making a huge post about it? This is not just a simple situation. Two policeman were killed. Doesn't that bother you? This is not how the world should be. If everyone stopped caring about it, like you, then we should kiss our ass goodbye, because it will get worse and worse.

CosmicNoodle
December 21st, 2014, 06:52 PM
Honestly, I disagree with your statement.

I'll be sure not to care

I don't care for cops myself and for certain reasons, but I do trust them and support them, trying to make everyone's community a safe environment for people...

Because every cop is a good guy, understand that some of them just join because they are power hungry and need to be on top, for that reason, I don't trust or care about any of them.

Even if some are not good cops. I know some officers, and the one I know is a great Indiana state trooper and he is a really nice guy, and he does more than enough for the community.

I don't refute that, some are great people I'd love to meet, but because of the 1 in 100 bad cops, I can't trust any of them, even the ones I can describe as awesome people, until the good throw out the bad, there are no good.

Well if you don't think.. Wtf let me correct myself.

If you know that the cops are not doing a good job, then I would like to see you show them what they should be doing,

How can you refute the idea that some cops do a bad job? I, myself have been subject to idiotic cops that do bad jobs with little care, would you like a...no...several examples?

because they are obviously not doing what they should. If you don't care about this situation why are you wasting your time making a huge post about it?

Because I am on a site that encourages people to give opinions, inject ideas, your idea seems to be that if you don't care about something, don't do it, I don't care about the law that says I can't kill people, sound I go out an massacre people?

This is not just a simple situation. Two policeman were killed. Doesn't that bother you?

I once snapped someone's arm in 3 places, because they annoyed me, does that give you an idea how much compassion I have for other humans? They could have been slowly tortured to death on TV, I would have sat back with popcorn. I don't care, even slightly

This is not how the world should be.

Nothing gets past you, professor

If everyone stopped caring about it, like you, then we should kiss our ass goodbye, because it will get worse and worse.

People take the world far to seriously, but then again, I have just smoked a blunt, so maybe how seriously I'm taking things right now isn't quite up to normal standards.
Lets just say, lets be glad everyone cares about menial, unimportant things more than I do.


If you don't like my ideas, be sure to write an angry letter.

thatcountrykid
December 21st, 2014, 10:24 PM
:( This makes me so sad.

I know countless police officers, current and former. They give up so much of their life to protect the community and everyone who lives in it. Sure some may let the power go to their head, but the same is true for any job.

I believe this gunman doesn't reflect the true feelings of the people, or so I hope.

apparently it is. eye witness statements say people were clapping and cheering when they saw the cops get shot.

averygamerdude
December 21st, 2014, 11:41 PM
http://news.sky.com/story/1395467/two-nypd-officers-killed-in-patrol-car-ambush

I don't like police officers. They're always more than ready to empty out their entire mags into someone's body, even if the crime was minor and the suspect is unarmed! Also, they won't let me leave home or get the stuff I need. :(

fairmaiden
December 22nd, 2014, 05:11 AM
I'm sorry what do you mean by supposedly? And they have by far done more to help people than some people who think they're smart cause they hide behind a keyboard half way around the world.
Hmm, I wonder why you're so affected by two police officers dying, but you couldn't give a rat's ass about Eric Garner?
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Anyway, obviously this shouldn't have happened, and I'm sorry for the family of the police officers. However, the gunman was mentally ill and he previously killed his ex-girlfriend as well so I don't think that this was all about Eric Garner tbh.

thatcountrykid
December 22nd, 2014, 09:53 AM
Hmm, I wonder why you're so affected by two police officers dying, but you couldn't give a rat's ass about Eric Garner?
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Anyway, obviously this shouldn't have happened, and I'm sorry for the family of the police officers. However, the gunman was mentally ill and he previously killed his ex-girlfriend as well so I don't think that this was all about Eric Garner tbh.

Because I know the life and struggles of police officers and what they do. I lived it for 16 years and the families of these officers are going throught what I dreaded most. Yes it's a shame garner died but his death was not caused by the officer. I Beleive the courts. I won't be the idiot who ignores the courts and wants their own form of justice.

Did you not see the social media posts by the gunman. Don't make excuse for him. He knew why he was doing.

Vlerchan
December 22nd, 2014, 12:54 PM
Yes it's a shame garner died but his death was not caused by the officer.
The medical examiner begs to differ here.

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The courts also just didn't choose to indict. It was quite clear that the officer killed Garner.

The courts just believe that officers shouldn't be convicted for manslaughter for some unexplained reason.

thatcountrykid
December 22nd, 2014, 01:17 PM
The medical examiner begs to differ here.

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The courts also just didn't choose to indict. It was quite clear that the officer killed Garner.

The courts just believe that officers shouldn't be convicted for manslaughter for some unexplained reason.

He died from cariac arrest not by choke hold. That's not the point of thethread.

Lost in the Echo
December 22nd, 2014, 01:39 PM
That's just horrible. No point in killing innocent cops who have done nothing to you personally. Fucking pathetic. They're human and have families just like everyone else.

I know there has been very questionable killings by the police lately ( I don't want to get into a whole debate over that. I don't really see/have a reason to pick either side ) but nobody deserves this. Especially not anyone who's not even involved in this controversy.
Never ceases to amaze my the fucking craziness of people over shit that doesn't even concern them.

My condolences to the two officers and their families. What a tragedy.
A very unnecessary tragedy. This really needs to stop.

fairmaiden
December 22nd, 2014, 09:50 PM
Because I know the life and struggles of police officers and what they do. I lived it for 16 years and the families of these officers are going throught what I dreaded most. Yes it's a shame garner died but his death was not caused by the officer. I Beleive the courts. I won't be the idiot who ignores the courts and wants their own form of justice.

Did you not see the social media posts by the gunman. Don't make excuse for him. He knew why he was doing.
Cardiac arrest induced by choke-hold. If the choke-hold did not occur, he wouldn't have had a heart attack at that point in time.

I'm not making 'excuses' for the man who killed these officers. I am in no way supporting him, as what he did was wrong and was unjustified. He just killed them for no reason, as he killed his ex-girlfriend before he killed these officers.

You say ''he knew what he was doing''. So did the police officer who killed Eric Garner.

The courts were disgusting. The medical examiner said that Eric Garner died from the chokehold, yet they chose to believe something else.

Sure, police officers put their lives on the line but that doesn't make their lives anymore important than a normal citizen.

It's stupid to be blind to matters like this just because your family is affiliated with the police force. One of my uncles was once a police commissioner and I have other family members who are currently members of the police force, so don't think that I have no idea about police officers 'struggling'. I have an aunt who was in the military and we were all 'dreading the worst' at certain points in time.

Why do you feel no sympathy for Eric Garner's family? His family had to see him die on camera. His family had to 'go through what they were dreading the worst'.

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 12:38 AM
Cardiac arrest induced by choke-hold. If the choke-hold did not occur, he wouldn't have had a heart attack at that point in time.

I'm not making 'excuses' for the man who killed these officers. I am in no way supporting him, as what he did was wrong and was unjustified. He just killed them for no reason, as he killed his ex-girlfriend before he killed these officers.

You say ''he knew what he was doing''. So did the police officer who killed Eric Garner.

The courts were disgusting. The medical examiner said that Eric Garner died from the chokehold, yet they chose to believe something else.

Sure, police officers put their lives on the line but that doesn't make their lives anymore important than a normal citizen.

It's stupid to be blind to matters like this just because your family is affiliated with the police force. One of my uncles was once a police commissioner and I have other family members who are currently members of the police force, so don't think that I have no idea about police officers 'struggling'. I have an aunt who was in the military and we were all 'dreading the worst' at certain points in time.

Why do you feel no sympathy for Eric Garner's family? His family had to see him die on camera. His family had to 'go through what they were dreading the worst'.

I never said I don't feel bad for garners family. I trust the courts decision. He was not in the wrong. I follow the legal justice system. I don't care about the lynch mobs riots for "justice".

I'll be the firs to admit issues when I see a real one. The officer wasn't trying to kill garner. This isn't what the thread is about. If you want to continue please, don't pm me.

Honesty, I do value an officers life more than a criminals.

I don't like police officers. They're always more than ready to empty out their entire mags into someone's body, even if the crime was minor and the suspect is unarmed! Also, they won't let me leave home or get the stuff I need. :(

What do you mean they won't let you leave home?

fairmaiden
December 23rd, 2014, 01:54 AM
I never said I don't feel bad for garners family. I trust the courts decision. He was not in the wrong. I follow the legal justice system. I don't care about the lynch mobs riots for "justice".

I'll be the firs to admit issues when I see a real one. The officer wasn't trying to kill garner. This isn't what the thread is about. If you want to continue please, don't pm me.

Honesty, I do value an officers life more than a criminals.
Technically, this sort of is what the thread is about, as the man who killed the officers supposedly killed them in revenge for Eric Garner.

Eric Garner was not a criminal. He was selling loose cigarettes to make ends meet for his family. What do you mean 'please don't pm me'? Of course I'm not going to pm you, why would I?

To my knowledge, the Eric Garner protests have been peaceful and were not lynch-mob material. You are kind of contradicting yourself, as you've said that Eric Garner isn't in the wrong, yet you said that you believe the court's decision is right.

Who knows why that officer was trying to restrain Eric Garner? It was an illegal choke-hold, and it shouldn't have been done. The very fact that it was illegal means that the police officer should have been punished.

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 01:57 AM
Technically, this sort of is what the thread is about, as the man who killed the officers supposedly killed them in revenge for Eric Garner.

Eric Garner was not a criminal. He was selling loose cigarettes to make ends meet for his family. What do you mean 'please don't pm me'? Of course I'm not going to pm you, why would I?

To my knowledge, the Eric Garner protests have been peaceful and were not lynch-mob material. You are kind of contradicting yourself, as you've said that Eric Garner isn't in the wrong, yet you said that you believe the court's decision is right.

Who knows why that officer was trying to restrain Eric Garner? It was an illegal choke-hold, and it shouldn't have been done. The very fact that it was illegal means that the police officer should have been punished.

I never said garner wasn't in the wrong. What e was doing was illegal.
They were restraining him because the were arrestin him. And the choke hold wasn't illeal it was against policy. Just cause a chokehold wa used doesn't mean it's a crime.

Vlerchan
December 23rd, 2014, 02:25 AM
The chokehold is an illegal tactic because when used incompetently it can induce death in a person. In the Garner case it was used incompetently and induced death through cardiac arrest. This is the findings of a medical examiners report - it ruled homicide.

I believe the opinion of a trained professional in the matter over that of a few people chosen at random to serve in a court. I think you deciding to side with the untrained court opinion in this matter is just demonstration that you'll use literally any basis to side with police officers over civilians , which is sad but not unexpected.

fairmaiden
December 23rd, 2014, 02:27 AM
I never said I don't feel bad for garners family. I trust the courts decision. He was not in the wrong.
Who is 'he'? I assumed you were talking about Eric Garner as that's the name you brought up earlier?
I never said garner wasn't in the wrong. What e was doing was illegal.
They were restraining him because the were arrestin him. And the choke hold wasn't illeal it was against policy. Just cause a chokehold wa used doesn't mean it's a crime.

Right, so if someone is standing there, not hurting anyone; the police officers have the right to restrain him? I thought restraining was only supposed to be used on the people who are being violent? Many news articles have stated that the police officer used an illegal chokehold. It is a crime, because the choke-hold is what induced Eric Garner's death. The medical examiner, who examined Eric Garner's dead body, said that the choke-hold induced his death. The jury was clearly corrupted as they ignored stone-hard video evidence, as well as the medical examiner's opinion.

If you still believe in the 'legal system' 100 percent of the time, then you are clearly a fool.

The chokehold is an illegal tactic because when used incompetently it can induce death in a person. In the Garner case it was used incompetently and induced death through cardiac arrest. This is the findings of a medical examiners report - it ruled homicide.

I believe the opinion of a trained professional in the matter over that of a few people chosen at random to serve in a court. I think you deciding to side with the untrained court opinion in this matter is just demonstration that you'll use literally any basis to side with police officers over civilians , which is sad but not unexpected.

Completely agreed.

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 08:03 AM
Who is 'he'? I assumed you were talking about Eric Garner as that's the name you brought up earlier?


Right, so if someone is standing there, not hurting anyone; the police officers have the right to restrain him? I thought restraining was only supposed to be used on the people who are being violent? Many news articles have stated that the police officer used an illegal chokehold. It is a crime, because the choke-hold is what induced Eric Garner's death. The medical examiner, who examined Eric Garner's dead body, said that the choke-hold induced his death. The jury was clearly corrupted as they ignored stone-hard video evidence, as well as the medical examiner's opinion.

If you still believe in the 'legal system' 100 percent of the time, then you are clearly a fool.



Completely agreed.
By he I mean the officer.

Restraining people is a safety measure. No matter who you are taking or arresting they all get cuffed because they are still gonna go through fight or flight thinking. Aren't knew he was gonna be arrested before they tried. To restrain him.

Well then those articles are wrong. Look at the police departments statements. It only said it is against policy. Not the law.

phuckphace
December 23rd, 2014, 08:43 AM
It is a crime, because the choke-hold is what induced Eric Garner's death.

chokeholds aren't supposed to be lethal. Garner was asthmatic and obese, so what wouldn't have been lethal for a smaller dude without asthma was unfortunately lethal for him. I don't think that was something anyone could have seen coming.

that said, I do believe the cops were at fault in this case (involuntary manslaughter) and even if chokeholds were legal it's excessive for the crime Garner committed, which was hawking smokes without a permit (gasp!)

fairmaiden
December 23rd, 2014, 10:27 AM
By he I mean the officer.

Restraining people is a safety measure. No matter who you are taking or arresting they all get cuffed because they are still gonna go through fight or flight thinking. Aren't knew he was gonna be arrested before they tried. To restrain him.

Well then those articles are wrong. Look at the police departments statements. It only said it is against policy. Not the law.
How many people have you seen being restrained via choke-hold, ''just incase they become violent''? I'm not even talking about them cuffing Eric, I'm talking about them putting him in a choke-hold. It shouldn't have been done. It's becoming foolish how you keep trying to defend the police force for things that they have obviously done wrong. Aren't police officers supposed to diffuse situations before becoming more physical? However, there wasn't even a situation to diffuse in my opinion.
chokeholds aren't supposed to be lethal. Garner was asthmatic and obese, so what wouldn't have been lethal for a smaller dude without asthma was unfortunately lethal for him. I don't think that was something anyone could have seen coming.

that said, I do believe the cops were at fault in this case (involuntary manslaughter) and even if chokeholds were legal it's excessive for the crime Garner committed, which was hawking smokes without a permit (gasp!)
But why did he have to restrain him? Eric wasn't being violent at all..

Vlerchan
December 23rd, 2014, 10:50 AM
Garner was asthmatic and obese, so what wouldn't have been lethal for a smaller dude without asthma was unfortunately lethal for him.
If the chokehold had been applied properly it wouldn't have been lethal at all, to my understanding.

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 05:19 PM
How many people have you seen being restrained via choke-hold, ''just incase they become violent''? I'm not even talking about them cuffing Eric, I'm talking about them putting him in a choke-hold. It shouldn't have been done. It's becoming foolish how you keep trying to defend the police force for things that they have obviously done wrong. Aren't police officers supposed to diffuse situations before becoming more physical? However, there wasn't even a situation to diffuse in my opinion.

But why did he have to restrain him? Eric wasn't being violent at all..

Did you see garner becoming aggresive? Dd you see the tried to grab him peacefully before he said to not touch him and pulled away. He had all the physical signs to resist arrest. They restrained him.

He was under arrest. That's why they detained him.
Our opinions differ because I see no wrong doing here.

averygamerdude
December 23rd, 2014, 06:30 PM
What do you mean they won't let you leave home?

I wanna leave home and head to California once I graduate High School, but my mom is forcing me to stay with her until I have a "plan". But I do have one, but if I tell her, then she will force me to live with her forever. I would just leave, but my mom would call the police and they would find me and throw me back in my house. :/

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 07:55 PM
I wanna leave home and head to California once I graduate High School, but my mom is forcing me to stay with her until I have a "plan". But I do have one, but if I tell her, then she will force me to live with her forever. I would just leave, but my mom would call the police and they would find me and throw me back in my house. :/

I our eighteen they can't and wont.

averygamerdude
December 23rd, 2014, 07:57 PM
I our eighteen they can't and wont.

I our eighteen? Wut? lol are you saying they can't and won't throw me back in my house when I'm 18? But my mom is filing for guardianship. I'm confused.

thatcountrykid
December 23rd, 2014, 08:01 PM
I our eighteen? Wut? lol are you saying they can't and won't throw me back in my house when I'm 18? But my mom is filing for guardianship. I'm confused.

If you're 18 they can't do that. You are a legal adult. It's only in cases of extreme mental illness or inability to take care of yourself that they can do that. Forcing you to stay after 18 by force is illegal.

averygamerdude
December 23rd, 2014, 08:14 PM
If you're 18 they can't do that. You are a legal adult. It's only in cases of extreme mental illness or inability to take care of yourself that they can do that. Forcing you to stay after 18 by force is illegal.

My mom thinks I can't take care of myself. :/ But I may survive...

Emerald Dream
December 23rd, 2014, 08:30 PM
If you're 18 they can't do that. You are a legal adult. It's only in cases of extreme mental illness or inability to take care of yourself that they can do that. Forcing you to stay after 18 by force is illegal.

My mom thinks I can't take care of myself. :/ But I may survive...

Let's keep it on-topic, please.

fairmaiden
December 24th, 2014, 12:02 AM
Did you see garner becoming aggresive? Dd you see the tried to grab him peacefully before he said to not touch him and pulled away. He had all the physical signs to resist arrest. They restrained him.

He was under arrest. That's why they detained him.
Our opinions differ because I see no wrong doing here.

Eric Garner moved his hands away from the handcuffs and put them up. He wasn't being violent at all, so there was no need for excessive restraint.

You are either biased or racist. I don't know which, but neither is good. The jury were obviously corrupted as they chose to ignore that the medical examiner ruled it as a homicide. You are clearly foolish if you believe in the courts regarding this case.

You are incredibly blind to evidence, so much so that I pray that you never become a police officer, a lawyer, or anything remotely justice-related, because if you do; America is well and truly doomed.

thatcountrykid
December 24th, 2014, 04:47 PM
You are either biased or racist. .

ok this is gonna be my last response because of the stupidity of that statement. obviousy im racist even though im half hispanic.

garner oulling his hands away was resisting arrest. they needed to take him into cuffs which they did. thats all.

Gamma Male
December 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM
If you initiate force against others for a living, you can't be surprised when someone initiates force back against you.

fairmaiden
December 25th, 2014, 05:41 AM
ok this is gonna be my last response because of the stupidity of that statement. obviousy im racist even though im half hispanic.

garner oulling his hands away was resisting arrest. they needed to take him into cuffs which they did. thats all.
Stupidity of my statement? Yet you think that a half-hispanic person can't be racist? I rest my case.

''That's all'', are you actually serious? They put him in a chokehold, they didn't just hand-cuff him.