Post Abortion

[Uranus]

So from what I hear there's this new law... Post abortion.
Now for those who don't know what PA(I'll go with that for now) is, its basically the same thing as normal abortion. But if the mother gives birth to a baby, but she didn't want it, she can have it aborted(Killed legally) as long as it's 5 years and younger. That's basically it.

In my opinion, its sick. That's just cruel. I can't even stand to just even think of the idea. What's your view on this? Sick or nah?

[Karkat]

That seems somewhat unlikely, especially due to the fact that abortion is largely illegal or limited as it is. However, in the event that it is true, I'd have to agree... It's very sick.

[thatcountrykid]

That's murder downright. So they'd change the laws from murder to post abortion?

[Calliope]

...Can we get a source for this?
I'm pro-choice, but killing your baby after it's already born is just awful.

[Uranus]

That's murder downright. So they'd change the laws from murder to post abortion?
Up to five years, it's legal in some places.

...Can we get a source for this?
I'm pro-choice, but killing your baby after it's already born is just awful.

I remember reading the article a week ago and I'm still looking for the link. When i find it I'll definitely post it here.

I don't remember if it is called post abortion, or something very similar but that's how I do remember it being called.

[CharlieHorse]

it's legal up to any age as long as that person has been sentenced to death for a horrible felony like killing people, but the methods used has to be humane.

[Uranus]

(Sorry For Double Post - Please Merge)

**Update**

Ok, so I have found the resources which I have been searching for.
Apparently it is not legal...yet. But there has been petition signings, debates, ECT to make this become legal.

It is actually called, Post-Birth Abortion.
And what it is, is I a woman was going to have an abortion,(With the baby still in her womb) and the abortion failed, meaning she still gave birth, then up til age five, they can legally (If It Does Become A Law) kill that child whenever they choose. It's fucking sick. I can't believe why anyone would do this!

Anyways here's the link ~ http://bit.ly/1kYTnLH

Also, here's a very interesting YouTube video I found that you all should check out.

92VOxknTtlM

Here's also the YouTube link for those who aren't able to view the video through this thread ~ http://bit.ly/1ssSYzT

This is sick!

[Karkat]

(Sorry For Double Post - Please Merge)

**Update**

Ok, so I have found the resources which I have been searching for.
Apparently it is not legal...yet. But there has been petition signings, debates, ECT to make this become legal.

It is actually called, Post-Birth Abortion.
And what it is, is I a woman was going to have an abortion,(With the baby still in her womb) and the abortion failed, meaning she still gave birth, then up til age five, they can legally (If It Does Become A Law) kill that child whenever they choose. It's fucking sick. I can't believe why anyone would do this!

Anyways here's the link ~ http://bit.ly/1kYTnLH

Also, here's a very interesting YouTube video I found that you all should check out.

92VOxknTtlM

Here's also the YouTube link for those who aren't able to view the video through this thread ~ http://bit.ly/1ssSYzT

This is sick!

Ehh I'm taking that article with a grain of salt, because it seems to be LARGELY opinion-based and biased. The writer even starts rambling at several points in the article! I couldn't even make it to the end!

Anyways, TERRIBLE article. However, the topic at hand is obviously far worse.

And if that "life begins when the parents 'feel it'" and denial of biology shit is true, that's hilarious. I totally don't doubt it, because people can totally be that dense. But yeah holy cow, how senile can you be??

[Emerald Dream]

The White Padded Room :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise

This thread is probably better suited here.

[CosmicNoodle]

You've been had, that's obviously a fake article

[Leprous]

So from killing unborn children we go to killing 4 years old who can walk and talk? Not sure wether this is true or not.

[Luminous]

No, no, no, no, no. Legally (and hopefully morally) killing a child is murder. The reason abortion is supported as much as it is now is because at legal times for abortion, the baby is not even a baby yet, it's just a fetus, it's not developed enough to be considered human. Into the late stages of pregnancy and onward, that baby is a child, a human being. If you can't or don't want to support your child, even if you had an abortion and it failed, go for adoption instead if you have to. Don't kill your child! I'm not even going to watch that video, it's either satire or completely biased. At age 5 children can walk and talk and have started kindergarten. Kids of that age getting killed goes all over the news, we can't make it some casual, every day norm. There is no way this will ever get passed as a law.

[Elysium]

Yeah, while I'm glad we're all on the same page here, this does appear to be a hoax (see here (http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/postbirthabortions.asp)).

[Vlerchan]

The reason abortion is supported as much as it is now is because at legal times for abortion, the baby is not even a baby yet, it's just a fetus, it's not developed enough to be considered human. Into the late stages of pregnancy and onward, that baby is a child, a human being.
When something becomes a human being (deserving human rights) is entirely subjective.

Of course, the main argument in favour of abortion holds regardless of what we believe the foetus is. That is, a woman's right to control over her own body should exist regardless.

[ImCoolBeans]

Charles Manson also applies for parole every time he's eligible... That doesn't mean he's going to get out.

There is a 0% chance of this happening before hell freezes over

[Horatio Nelson]

Charles Manson also applies for parole every time he's eligible... That doesn't mean he's going to get out.

There is a 0% chance of this happening before hell freezes over

Mike is absolutely right.

[cami]

Mmm.. two thing come to my mind.

1) It's fake.

2) This will never happen.

[Typhlosion]

Penn & Teller managed to get petitions on banning water, so this video is unsurprising. Half of the people that signed did not know what they were signing for and were led by a more dubious "empower women" or to "go on with it" or something. The only time I ever hear about this are (christian) pro-life outlets attempting to make the other side seem more evil and push the slippery slope fallacy.

[Miserabilia]

A bit late but I kept forgetting to reply to this.
I'll keep it short,
I think people who are aggreeing to this are either mislead or misinformed/uninformed,
or some kind of extreme liberalists?

The idea of ridiculous.
Why the vague age of 5?
Post-abortion would mean "abortion" after birth, a.k.a the murder of the born child.
Why would the specific age be 5?
Is it because that's where memories mostly start or something?

Because children under 5 are clearly already sentient alive intelligent and aware.
Heck even babies of a few months already understand basic communication and some sense of existence.
Basicly the idea is some kind of euthanization, right? So like, for severely handicapped children. Children who could only live in the rest of their lives in excruciating pain or without much sentience at all.
In that case, the idea seems more acceptable but it's not that simple at all in reality.

[phuckphace]

the article is either fake (The Onion-style) or the work of an Alex Jones-tier conspiracy theorist. assuming it's the latter, the dumb hicks who rant about the "evil" abortion supporters are way off the mark when they say the pro-abortion camp "worships death." progressives don't worship death, they worship individualism and frame their morality around the individual. although that arrangement does cause a lot of misery, they could have just said "individualists".

there are a lot of legit criticisms of abortion & abortion accessories but unfortunately the anti-abortion camp tends to get caught up in pointless culture-war slapfights and silly movements that mistake the symptom for the disease and do nothing. a lot of these "conservatives" think they can change things by voting for millionaires who couldn't care less and harassing teenage girls who walk into the abortion clinic. you idiots could have dropped abortion rates by two-thirds in a couple of generations had you not started 69 pointless wars and burned 420 trillion dollars and had you focused on the well-being of your society in the first place. :lol3:

I'm actually tempted to vote for Hillary next election just because one less vote for the GOP (which needs to die) is worth the 15 calories I will burn getting there and back.

[Miserabilia]

there are a lot of legit criticisms of abortion & abortion accessories but unfortunately the anti-abortion camp tends to get caught up in pointless culture-war slapfights and silly movements that mistake the symptom for the disease and do nothing. a lot of these "conservatives" think they can change things by voting for millionaires who couldn't care less and harassing teenage girls who walk into the abortion clinic. you idiots could have dropped abortion rates by two-thirds in a couple of generations had you not started 69 pointless wars and burned 420 trillion dollars and had you focused on the well-being of your society in the first place. :lol3:


post of the year

#preachit

[Human]

Lol there's no chance this would ever happen, don't believe everything you read

[Arkansasguy]

So from what I hear there's this new law... Post abortion.
Now for those who don't know what PA(I'll go with that for now) is, its basically the same thing as normal abortion. But if the mother gives birth to a baby, but she didn't want it, she can have it aborted(Killed legally) as long as it's 5 years and younger. That's basically it.

In my opinion, its sick. That's just cruel. I can't even stand to just even think of the idea. What's your view on this? Sick or nah?

That is the logical and horrific conclusion of the pro-abortion stance.

[amgb]

Okay I'm alright with normal abortion, but this post abortion? I agree that it's just cruel murder. If mothers want an abortion they should be having it BEFORE the baby comes out - I can accept that. But post abortion is just terribly horrible