Is this not gay?

[Dimentio]

Okay so i was talking to someone online and we got into a heated argument so i have now blocked him but i just need others opinions on this!
So the argument was, he left a comment in reply to something i said stating "Two men having sex together doesn't have to be gay if they're both straight, it just matters on who they like." and refuses to listen to me or believe any other view!
But okay, ya see the thing is, I would never have sex with a woman and still call myself gay, like, I'd partially like women clearly so that would make me bi, just as, if you're straight and having sex with another dude, you're gay, as the whole point of being gay is about having sex with other men!
Like, I still view it as a little gay, but if you are straight and finger yourself, or use a vibrator or whatever to hit your G-spot, then, whatever, I'm learning to let that slide, but there is physically no way what so ever, that two men having sex together is not gay!
I honestly do not, 100% understand how that can happen and have it not be gay, like i said, that's the point of being gay, you can get sexually aroused over men, even if it is just one man, it's gay! It frustrates me so much that this person and one of my friends seems to view it as an okay thing for straight guys to do XD
So please, straight guys especially if you are reading this, would you admit whether or not you would have sex with another man, and say whether it is gay or not, as to me, 100% full on, having sex with another man if you are one, is the definition of homosexual :')

[Elysium]

You're treating this with a very black and white view of what sexuality is, not to mention, you're trying to define sexuality for other people. I'm not straight, or a guy, but I kind of see your friend's point. I think you can have sex with someone of the same sex and realize afterwards, "I didn't really like that and I don't think I'd want to try it again." Let people define their own sexualities and don't define it for them. If two guys identify as straight and have sex with each other and still choose to identify as straight, keep your opinions to yourself. You don't know what they think or feel and you have absolutely no place commenting or drawing conclusions.

Edit: I don't want to post again just saying this, but I also agree with zack.zack.

[Zachary G]

Elysium has a very valid point and I agree with her, but lets not forget there are straight guys that do have sex with other men and they are called bisexuals. lets not forget about them.

[CosmicNoodle]

What about Bisexuals? You forgot about us...

[Typhlosion]

Hey, they might as well have said 'no homo', bro.

Erm. I mean, you are what you choose to be, and if they wish to label themselves straight instead of whatever label else you desire, they should have all the rights to do that. Who knows the context behind it all?

[Babs]

Like the others said, a gay experience doesn't necessarily make someone gay.
Gay sex is commonly practiced among gay people.
However, there are bisexual people. In the technical sense, it's homosexual sex, but they're not gay, they're bi.
There are people who are just experimenting, and may decide that it's not something they wanna do again.
You blocked him just for that...

[voodoo doughnut]

what if a straight guy did some stuff with another guy just because it was fun and felt good? but he isn't sexually attracted to the other guy?

[Semi_IronMan]

I think u only want your opinion to be the only opinion. Having sex with a guy doesn't make u gay... What u did was gay, but that doesn't mean you're gay. How many guys out there have experimented with people of the same sex but still consider themselves straight? Tons!. So I think you should try looking at it from both perspective instead of being all : "my opinion is the only one that's right"

[TurboDieselBandit]

Just because you call yourself straight doesn't make it anymore true than an occasional liar calling himself a honest person.

Surely some people are straight and their open mindedness may briefly lead them to experiment, then they eventually realize it's not for them. However, I think some people, uncomfortable with their feelings, call themselves "straight" as a means to avoid facing the possibility that they are bi or gay. It's an insecurity they don't want to acknowledge.

We all have the right to respectfully voice our own opinion, and we should, weather it's popular or not.

[dirtyboxer55]

having sex with the same sex = gay

[Saint of Sinners]

I don't think having sex = having attraction. Granted it might be hard to have sex with somebody you're not attracted to but hey it's possible.

[Meh Guy]

Now I understand where you are coming from but I tend to agree with the other point of view. However, I also see no logic in why someone who is straight would have sex with a guy. But, a pretty big loophole in all of this, there are many straight guys who masturbate/experiment with guys. And most people don't consider it gay, or on the edge of curious. Just a thought, I see the merit in both sides of the argument.

[SethfromMI]

I am bi. I am dating a girl, but i also have interest in guys