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Karkat
November 17th, 2014, 04:09 AM
A lot of you may have your suspicions as to whom this is about, and you'd be totally correct.

Also, sorry in advance about the inevitable wall of text. TL;DR: I need ideas on how to communicate with Charlie and deal with my weird insecure habits I have as a result of not having any stability in this relationship.

So I'm in a... Sort of sexual relationship with my best guy friend (as in not romantic.) (We're 500miles apart, so it's been purely digital so far [aside from some extremely tame cuddling and a platonic peck on the cheek] but the next time I see him [-]I'm gonna fuck him[/-] we're planning on spending time together maybe)

And sexually, we are so compatible. That's cool. Initially, I was fine with him just being my buddy whom I also want to fuck. Yenno. I was 100% cool with not having, and never having a relationship.

Until my heart pulled a dick move and decided I was in love with him. I mean, we had feelings to some degree at one point, but now, I am mad about him, and he's confused and scared, and generally not feeling the same way I do.

He still loves me as a friend, he is the first to try to talk me back from the ledge and holy FUCK you can tell the man cares about you with the way he does it. But everything beyond that, he doesn't want to decide until we're together in person.

Shouldn't be a big issue, we're moving in together.

So what's the issue then, you ask?

Making it that far with my sanity intact.

I've got two major issues: communicating with him (effectively- I try to communicate with him all the time), and dealing with my anxieties about the relationship.

1. If I tell him I miss him, or I want to talk, he usually just ignores me. I usually text him before I call, should I just stop doing that before I call him? I'd imagine he'd just tell me it isn't a good time or text me so. I guess it couldn't hurt. But what if that still gains no progress?
Also, I have Snapchat, I snap him sometimes. Should I use the video feature to send him little messages? Is that too...Desperate?? I did get through to him a little bit tonight, and he says he's not avoiding me on purpose, he just gets like that with texting, but UGH how is our relationship supposed to last long enough for me to move in with him if I never talk to him- and NEVER have any meaningful conversations with him?? (And he is VERY much a meaningful conversations kinda guy. He's thoughtful, intelligent, compassionate. We have a sort of a "thinker" quality in common.)

2. First off, I know that even if we get together, it's unlikely that we'll be longtime or lifetime partners-what we want in life is too antipodal. There would be a lot of major sacrifice, and on whose behalf?
Mine. I am a submissive partner.
However, I'm also a fairly independent person when I want to be, so it's more likely than not that any kind of relationship with him would end when we came to a fork in the road.
...This terrifies me. I know it's going to fade over time, I'll get over him someday, and I'll move on, but I don't want to. I know that I've said this not once, but twice before, but I never want to be with anyone else.
The thing that bothers me the most is the pure amount of passion and intimacy between us. I feel like as rocky as our relationship can be, it can be so pure and strong as well.
With my past two boyfriends, I felt protective and all, but with my friend, it's intense. I try to be very attentive to how he's feeling. I feel like I need to be on top of it. And while my last two boyfriends and I had good chemistry, the chemistry between Charlie and I is... Unbelievable. We also have a lot of common interests, but we have opposites that balance each other out well also.
I mean, my heart says "marry him and have his babies", my head says "Noooooooo"
But my head is still terrified of the day that I won't get to be this close to him. It's been a huge cause of anxiety for months, and I hate it. (Part of me wants to be over him; part of me wants him to kiss me, wrap his arms around me, tell me he's never going to leave.)
The other anxiety issue, in direct correlation with the above, is that I get extremely whiny/pouty when he doesn't give me attention, I get pretty jealous (Note: Not CONTROLLING, I do not like that shit) when he talks about his friend he wants to fuck, and his other friend that he took to prom and is fairly mad about (it should be noted that I'm high-priority though- he feels like my protector in a way, constantly trying to help me feel better by telling me to set alarms to do things to take care of myself. Also should be noted that I'm really the only person he's been sexual like this with. So while I'm probably justified for feeling a little insecure about his...Position here, I don't actually have a lot to worry about.), etc.
I try to monopolize his time, and this is partially because I haven't seen him in forever, and I don't have a ton of other people. Charlie has been the marble pillar of human contact for me lately, like Matt used to be before I made him flip out, and without Charlie, I may go almost a day without talking to another human being at times. I can't handle that.
Another reason: I don't feel secure in this relationship. At all. Not even as a friend (I have a hard time feeling my friends are going to stick around forever now) or a sexual partner. He's told me that if we spent more time together in person, he might want to be in a relationship with me, but I feel like that is constantly threatened by a little thing called "time and chance". I'm constantly worried that he'll find someone better before I even get to visit him. Before I even get to KISS him. (Still mad about not going to Lagoon with him.)

Please. If you have any suggestions about how to cope with those anxieties, tell me. I hate being this way- I don't mean to be "that person". I don't want to suffocate him or push him away.

Also, I'd like to mention that I have GAD. I'm starting medication for it currently, but I don't know how much it'll help.

Anyways, once again, I'm sorry for the wall of text, but I'm in serious need of help. .-.

RRay99
November 17th, 2014, 05:40 AM
Shit, I can't respond properly now but I promise I will PM you Ren. Stay calm, deep breaths and count to 10. Cheesy but it works. You're wonderful and I'm sure Charlie sees that. What I would say quickly now, is if you're unsure you have to ask him how he feels about you. It's scary as fuck, but there's no other way to clear the smoke of your doubts. Be brave, tonnes of hugs and kisses :)

James Dean
November 17th, 2014, 07:00 AM
1.That is how some guys are. They hate showing emotions sometimes, doesn't mean he doesn't care or love you, some guys don't like to show signs of being sensitive. That is just part of the manhood of it all. A text is no different, he can always not read it or misinterpret it or just think of it as words on a phone. Again, nothing to be scared about. He will eventually understand that you really show concern to him and enjoy this. About the snapchat and him saying he doesn't have time to talk, I don't see why he would lie. He probably is real busy with other things and you can't always have time or be in the mood for those types of things. Don't let it affect your future decisions or plans with him. In a different environment, people could act in all kinds of ways. Try not to be nervous or scared about things that haven't happened yet. I don't see it as a communication problem, it is just him being a guy. They are hard to understand and figure out sometimes just like women, but usually women show expressions and emotions and communicate. Guys on the other hand, sometimes have issues with knowing how to deal with this and how to show it to girls.

2.Be optimistic about the situation, if you like him and he likes you, that should be the only thing that matters. All relationships are going to have rocky moments and issues from time to time. Just have the strength to overcome all of it. Love can really push through all those tough times and make it worthwhile. Moving in together is a big step, I'm sure it came a while to make this decision. I don't think if the love wasn't pure or true that you guys would make it that far. Like I said before, don't worry about things that you haven't put yourself in quite yet. I don't see why you shouldn't continue on with this relationship and understand the steps that things are not always going to be perfect. True love will lead you to success.

We can always talk more about this whenever you feel like. You are a creative person and I know whatever choices you guys make together will be good. Wishing you all the best. :)

Karkat
November 17th, 2014, 03:36 PM
Shit, I can't respond properly now but I promise I will PM you Ren. Stay calm, deep breaths and count to 10. Cheesy but it works. You're wonderful and I'm sure Charlie sees that. What I would say quickly now, is if you're unsure you have to ask him how he feels about you. It's scary as fuck, but there's no other way to clear the smoke of your doubts. Be brave, tonnes of hugs and kisses :)

Alright, thanks :)

I sent him a couple texts, hopefully we'll talk it out hah

1.That is how some guys are. They hate showing emotions sometimes, doesn't mean he doesn't care or love you, some guys don't like to show signs of being sensitive. That is just part of the manhood of it all. A text is no different, he can always not read it or misinterpret it or just think of it as words on a phone. Again, nothing to be scared about. He will eventually understand that you really show concern to him and enjoy this. About the snapchat and him saying he doesn't have time to talk, I don't see why he would lie. He probably is real busy with other things and you can't always have time or be in the mood for those types of things. Don't let it affect your future decisions or plans with him. In a different environment, people could act in all kinds of ways. Try not to be nervous or scared about things that haven't happened yet. I don't see it as a communication problem, it is just him being a guy. They are hard to understand and figure out sometimes just like women, but usually women show expressions and emotions and communicate. Guys on the other hand, sometimes have issues with knowing how to deal with this and how to show it to girls.

2.Be optimistic about the situation, if you like him and he likes you, that should be the only thing that matters. All relationships are going to have rocky moments and issues from time to time. Just have the strength to overcome all of it. Love can really push through all those tough times and make it worthwhile. Moving in together is a big step, I'm sure it came a while to make this decision. I don't think if the love wasn't pure or true that you guys would make it that far. Like I said before, don't worry about things that you haven't put yourself in quite yet. I don't see why you shouldn't continue on with this relationship and understand the steps that things are not always going to be perfect. True love will lead you to success.

We can always talk more about this whenever you feel like. You are a creative person and I know whatever choices you guys make together will be good. Wishing you all the best. :)

It's just really hard for me to feel secure without knowing anything. I'm not his SO, I'm a FWB he happens to have feelings for, and might get with. I can feel secure in that I have him as a friend, but not much else.
And when he doesn't talk to me on top of that, that's terrifying to me. I'm not saying he has to, I'm just saying that I feel extremely insecure and anxious about it all.

I'm trying to talk it out with him right now, but he's kinda bad at projecting into the future, so I'm probably not going to get a lot of reassurance. But eh, we're talking, so that's a start.

Thanks for your advice though :)