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Remora
November 12th, 2014, 03:22 PM
So hey there, guys. Simon here- the ultimate virgin.
Virgin, Virgo, never drank, smoked or did drugs and grows a stupid little blonde beard. That's me alright.

And i'm happy with that- at least, i think. I never felt pressured or curious to try any of these things (other than the sexual bit, but name someone going trough puberty that wasn't curious, i'll give you a cookie) and i still don't- quite the contrary, i have developed a hate for drugs and alcohol, and i still really, really hate smoking!

My oldest sisters' boyfriend lives in "his own world" in terms that he always thinks he's helping (he recently installed another graphics card on my PC as a surprise, but since my CPU can't handle the card all my games are now really slow), and... he smokes. And i hate when he smokes. But everyone has to be friendly to him because we all know he's the only person stupid enough to engage in a relationship with my oldest sister.

He's been trying to befriend me even though i tried as gently as possible to stay the fuck away from him. He's tried to throw three LAN parties already and he only succeeded in one (which is where he installed the graphics card.)

He always drives me there in his car, and he always smokes while driving. I just forced myself to try and ignore the obnoxious fumes entering my nose, but lately when he's around (and smoking) i notice that i don't seem to care as much anymore. Am i like, getting used to it? Am i at risk of being "addicted" of having increased risk of, say, lung cancer? ;~;

Typhlosion
November 12th, 2014, 03:32 PM
Yup. Secondhand smoke really can be troublesome -

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/[/url]"]Secondhand smoke is the combination of smoke from the burning end of a cigarette and the smoke breathed out by smokers. Secondhand smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals. Hundreds are toxic and about 70 can cause cancer.
Since the 1964 Surgeon General’s Report, 2.5 million adults who were nonsmokers died because they breathed secondhand smoke.

Leprous
November 12th, 2014, 03:35 PM
So hey there, guys. Simon here- the ultimate virgin.
Virgin, Virgo, never drank, smoked or did drugs and grows a stupid little blonde beard. That's me alright.

And i'm happy with that- at least, i think. I never felt pressured or curious to try any of these things (other than the sexual bit, but name someone going trough puberty that wasn't curious, i'll give you a cookie) and i still don't- quite the contrary, i have developed a hate for drugs and alcohol, and i still really, really hate smoking!

My oldest sisters' boyfriend lives in "his own world" in terms that he always thinks he's helping (he recently installed another graphics card on my PC as a surprise, but since my CPU can't handle the card all my games are now really slow), and... he smokes. And i hate when he smokes. But everyone has to be friendly to him because we all know he's the only person stupid enough to engage in a relationship with my oldest sister.

He's been trying to befriend me even though i tried as gently as possible to stay the fuck away from him. He's tried to throw three LAN parties already and he only succeeded in one (which is where he installed the graphics card.)

He always drives me there in his car, and he always smokes while driving. I just forced myself to try and ignore the obnoxious fumes entering my nose, but lately when he's around (and smoking) i notice that i don't seem to care as much anymore. Am i like, getting used to it? Am i at risk of being "addicted" of having increased risk of, say, lung cancer? ;~;

Is there like, any

If I were you, I'd ask him to either stop smoking around you or just stay away from him. Pretty sure it's not healty to stay near him while he's smoking.

Remora
November 12th, 2014, 03:56 PM
Yup. Secondhand smoke really can be troublesome -

I know, that's why i've been hating it so much. The fact i'm getting used to it doesn't mean i'm getting addicted or anything though, right?

If I were you, I'd ask him to either stop smoking around you or just stay away from him. Pretty sure it's not healty to stay near him while he's smoking.

But he's my oldest sisters' boyfriend and as i already mentioned he thinks everything he does is right. My oldest sister is very fragile in terms of emotions, so... :$

Decim
November 13th, 2014, 02:37 AM
Second hand smoke is not going to kill you. But seriously, if you walk away from him after he lights a smoke, he will get the idea.

It shouldn't offend him, unless he's just trying to do it to be a jerk.

Karkat
November 13th, 2014, 02:59 AM
Second hand smoke is not going to kill you. But seriously, if you walk away from him after he lights a smoke, he will get the idea.

It shouldn't offend him, unless he's just trying to do it to be a jerk.

Actually, secondhand smoke is worse for your lungs than what a smoker breathes, because a smoker breathes through a filter. The issue here is level of exposure, not level of danger.

Decim
November 13th, 2014, 03:04 AM
Actually, secondhand smoke is worse for your lungs than what a smoker breathes, because a smoker breathes through a filter. The issue here is level of exposure, not level of danger. If you aren't aware, many people who smoke cigs roll butts or roll their own tobacco.

I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying it's not going to give you cancer just like that.

Really, my cousin who never smoked once in her life got cancer and died a few months ago - yet my grandmother smoked over a package of cigarettes til she died in her 80s from natural causes. There is no guarantees in our life.

Karkat
November 13th, 2014, 03:16 AM
If you aren't aware, many people who smoke cigs roll butts or roll their own tobacco.

I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying it's not going to give you cancer just like that.

Really, my cousin who never smoked once in her life got cancer and died a few months ago - yet my grandmother smoked over a package of cigarettes til she died in her 80s from natural causes. There is no guarantees in our life.

...I don't know what social class you live in, but in blue collar America, I'm pretty sure it's all Marlboros and Pall Malls.

And of course it's not going to give you cancer at the snap of your fingers, I already said it was a matter of exposure.

Also, cancer isn't JUST from cigarette smoke. There are dozens of triggers. Many things cause cancer. And some people never get it. However, there is a direct correlation between cigarette smoke and lung cancer. Chewing tobacco and mouth and throat cancer. Et cetera, et cetera. I'm not pulling this out of my ass.

Decim
November 13th, 2014, 03:22 AM
...I don't know what social class you live in, but in blue collar America, I'm pretty sure it's all Marlboros and Pall Malls.

And of course it's not going to give you cancer at the snap of your fingers, I already said it was a matter of exposure.

Also, cancer isn't JUST from cigarette smoke. There are dozens of triggers. Many things cause cancer. And some people never get it. However, there is a direct correlation between cigarette smoke and lung cancer. Chewing tobacco and mouth and throat cancer. Et cetera, et cetera. I'm not pulling this out of my ass. Rolling butts = Smoking a rolled cigarette from the almost empty cigarettes in an ash tray.

I'm not saying it's not damaging. I'm simply saying, my grandma lived til 80 and she smoked so much it was disgusting. Don't make the OP worried he will get cancer or will die.

Just avoid people who smoke if you don't like the smell, and walk away. If he's following you around to blow smoke in your face, that is indeed a big problem though.

Karkat
November 13th, 2014, 03:44 AM
Rolling butts = Smoking a rolled cigarette from the almost empty cigarettes in an ash tray.

I'm not saying it's not damaging. I'm simply saying, my grandma lived til 80 and she smoked so much it was disgusting. Don't make the OP worried he will get cancer or will die.

Just avoid people who smoke if you don't like the smell, and walk away. If he's following you around to blow smoke in your face, that is indeed a big problem though.

I wasn't aware of that term. And I guess what people do on their own property is whatever, but I never smoked around anyone who was physically capable of doing that at the time.

I was never implying that, however you seemed to be implying that exposure to secondhand smoke is harmless, and it isn't.

Typhlosion
November 13th, 2014, 09:38 AM
If you aren't aware, many people who smoke cigs roll butts or roll their own tobacco.

I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying it's not going to give you cancer just like that.

Really, my cousin who never smoked once in her life got cancer and died a few months ago - yet my grandmother smoked over a package of cigarettes til she died in her 80s from natural causes. There is no guarantees in our life.
I think you completely missed the quote from my earlier post...

Yup. Secondhand smoke really can be troublesome -

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/[/url]"]Secondhand smoke is the combination of smoke from the burning end of a cigarette and the smoke breathed out by smokers. Secondhand smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals. Hundreds are toxic and about 70 can cause cancer.
Since the 1964 Surgeon General’s Report, 2.5 million adults who were nonsmokers died because they breathed secondhand smoke.


What you're saying is that people have different tolerances to cigarettes and its byproducts. And you are correct, some people can chainsmoke without significant effects on their lives. However, seeing that your grandma wasn't affected is not a good guideline to recommend others to be careless around smoke.

Remora
November 13th, 2014, 10:20 AM
Second hand smoke is not going to kill you. But seriously, if you walk away from him after he lights a smoke, he will get the idea.

It shouldn't offend him, unless he's just trying to do it to be a jerk.

I can't walk away from him because i'm sometimes sitting in a car with him, and i'm the jerk for walking away from him when i'm not.

I forgot to mention this in the main post, but a week ago when he was buying cigarettes (there's new laws where you can't buy cigarettes if someone underage is with you here in the Netherlands) he kept complaining and then he sent me home and bought cigarettes anyways, after which he spent some time ranting to me how "he shouldn't have brought me with him" and stuff :c

Decim
November 13th, 2014, 10:10 PM
I can't walk away from him because i'm sometimes sitting in a car with him, and i'm the jerk for walking away from him when i'm not.

I forgot to mention this in the main post, but a week ago when he was buying cigarettes (there's new laws where you can't buy cigarettes if someone underage is with you here in the Netherlands) he kept complaining and then he sent me home and bought cigarettes anyways, after which he spent some time ranting to me how "he shouldn't have brought me with him" and stuff :c You're not a jerk for walking away. Seriously, you do not have to put up with smelling his cigarettes.

I'd suggest to avoid having him drive you places, and if he's not the one driving the car ask the one driving the car to tell him not to smoke. In the past, I've gone as far as taking a smoke and putting it out to get the point across. Don't just "get used to it", make a point of walking away from him when he lights a cigarette, even in the middle of a conversation.

It is not your job to put up with rudeness for someone else sake. Your older sister should know better, and say something to him herself. Personally I actually find it weird that this boyfriend is trying to become so close to you! He should be getting closer to your sister, and find you more of a nuisance than a "friend" considering his age. He should be perfectly fine with you not being his friend, not trying to surprise you with new graphic cards.

I think you completely missed the quote from my earlier post...



What you're saying is that people have different tolerances to cigarettes and its byproducts. And you are correct, some people can chainsmoke without significant effects on their lives. However, seeing that your grandma wasn't affected is not a good guideline to recommend others to be careless around smoke. No, I didn't miss it. I am saying you don't need to make the OP scared for her damn life, just because second hand smoke is harmful. Yes it's bad, but there's no need to worry someone who's exposed to second hand smoke for less than 1% of their life span over it the extreme dangers of cigarettes when all they need is some help to speak up to this guy.

I can already tell how worried and upset she is, and you're definitely not going to help with that.

Remora
November 14th, 2014, 12:37 AM
great advice
I uh, i'll try doing that. Telling him he's bothering me is going to be really hard though :c

SethfromMI
November 15th, 2014, 11:45 PM
some reports say the second hand smoke can actually be worse for you. not trying to scare you or anything. I don't know if you are becoming addicted though, just used to the smell and stuff

ksdnfkfr
November 16th, 2014, 12:01 AM
When you're exposed to a bad smell or whatever for long enough, you start getting used to it. I think people who get cancer from secondhand smoke are exposed to it for hours a day for years. For me personally in a situation like that, I would just start coughing like I was hacking up a lung.

Indio
November 16th, 2014, 03:50 AM
I can't walk away from him because i'm sometimes sitting in a car with him, and i'm the jerk for walking away from him when i'm not.

I forgot to mention this in the main post, but a week ago when he was buying cigarettes (there's new laws where you can't buy cigarettes if someone underage is with you here in the Netherlands) he kept complaining and then he sent me home and bought cigarettes anyways, after which he spent some time ranting to me how "he shouldn't have brought me with him" and stuff :c

Haha that's funny he was upset. But anyway, how often you ride with his car. Are all car windows open?

Remora
November 16th, 2014, 07:31 AM
Haha that's funny he was upset. But anyway, how often you ride with his car. Are all car windows open?

They're usually closed, which sucks both because it's creating a cozy environment for me to suffocate and because i LOVE hanging out of the window with my head (i know i'm a cat and not a dog but i REALLY LIKE IT i'm sorry)

Indio
November 16th, 2014, 09:16 AM
They're usually closed, which sucks both because it's creating a cozy environment for me to suffocate and because i LOVE hanging out of the window with my head (i know i'm a cat and not a dog but i REALLY LIKE IT i'm sorry)

Maybe you can politely say if you could open the window coz you are soffucated.

Remora
November 16th, 2014, 12:33 PM
Maybe you can politely say if you could open the window coz you are soffucated.
It'd be mean to actually say "because i'm suffocating" or something like that- but this does give me the idea of using "i like hanging out of the window" as a polite (albeit weird, but polite) excuse for the windows opening.

phuckphace
November 19th, 2014, 09:03 AM
it's actually a myth that secondhand is worse than inhaling the smoke directly. having a filter doesn't make the cigarette any less harmful to the smoker - that's why cigarette companies aren't allowed to claim that their cigarettes are less harmful because they have filters (that used to be a common ad gimmick). I'd say about 95% of cigarettes have filters and people are still getting lung cancer from smoking. light, ultra-light, doesn't matter, "mellow taste does not mean a safer cigarette" as it says on the warning label.