new canadian laws?

[xzachx]

hello hello. didn't know where else to stick this so i thought i would just stick it here. I just learned today while reading an article that the "Harper government" is passing new laws. I have read some of them, and only made little sense of them. from what I can see, we are basically turning into the USA (no offence to you guys.. i just don't agree with some of the things your government is doing right now, as well as the "Harper government" is being pretty stupid as well.)

could someone basically make sense of these new laws and such for me? From what i see, we are getting some of our privacy taken away from us, pirating/ downloading may become illegal, and police officers may be able to arrest us on an account of "suspicion" that we may commit a crime.

did i get everything right? am i missing anything?

honestly I can say that i do see as to why they would want to start enforcing more stricter laws in Canada, especially with the past few incidents that have occurred. banning piracy, is reasonable. i can understand why they would want to do that. but the whole arresting under suspicion, is out of hand. I'm afraid that some police officers may abuse this, and arrest innocent people for no reason.

if i am on point i would like to say that this is destroying some of our rights as Canadian's and personally do not agree to it. these rights and freedoms are what separates us from some of the other countries in the world. its what makes us Canadians and also is why Canada has a decent reputation.

sources: http://cut2thetruth.wordpress.com/2014/10/26/stephen-harper-abolishing-the-canadian-charter-of-rights-and-freedoms/
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/24/new-canada-anti-terror-laws_n_6044306.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/04/13/new-bill-to-crack-down-on-illegal-downloads-has-privacy-experts-worried/

[jordanhardy]

Police officers already arrest on suspicion of an offemce. That's the reason behind arresting, so they can detain you and investigate the offence. They also arrest in order to prevent an offence, at least here in the UK they do, but I'm pretty sure it's the same elsewhere. As for the others, I'd be surprised if they didn't have some variation of them already. Laws and Acts are constantly updated, otherwise they would become obsolete with the ever changing world and society we live in.

[Bleid]

but the whole arresting under suspicion, is out of hand. I'm afraid that some police officers may abuse this, and arrest innocent people for no reason.

Because it's a lot of fun for police officers to have to bring people in, write police reports and deal with administration, possibly suspensions and lawsuits because they just suddenly felt like it'd be a grand old time to arrest someone.

What I'm saying is, this fear is a bit silly.

Then for the piracy, well, of course that's illegal. Doesn't necessarily mean they'll be able to easily catch the people doing so.

[DeadEyes]

Because it's a lot of fun for police officers to have to bring people in, write police reports and deal with administration, possibly suspensions and lawsuits because they just suddenly felt like it'd be a grand old time to arrest someone.


Ever heard of something called power abuse?

And yeah, with the right wing conservative Harper government, Canada is turning into Republican USA.

[Bleid]

Ever heard of something called power abuse?

Have, and there's not much point to worrying about it.

[jordanhardy]

My dads a cop here in the UK, there's no way you could get away with 'power abuse' everything they do is monitored and scrutinized. To arrest they have to justify it and there has to be necessity. I know the laws are slightly different between countries, but Canadian law is very similar to British laws. The police work in exactly the same way. It's the same for any commonwealth country. Their police and powers are based on British laws and powers

[DeadEyes]

My dads a cop here in the UK, there's no way you could get away with 'power abuse' everything they do is monitored and scrutinized.

It amuses me to no end how people believe everything is under control, that there can be no power abuse and corrupt politics. It's happening a lot more than we know, just listen to the news.

[jordanhardy]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that its not as corrupt as the media make it. Unfortunately there are going to be a very small minority's that will over step the mark. Don't believe every thing that you read in the papers, online or see in the news. There's always a spin to it

[xzachx]

It amuses me to no end how people believe everything is under control, that there can be no power abuse and corrupt politics. It's happening a lot more than we know, just listen to the news.

thank yooouuu dead eyes. he gets it.

look at the USA for example, apparently everything is "under control" but yet you still get these corrupted cops arresting people for no reason. there was a documentary i watched on youtube about that. something like cops being pressured to pull off as many 250's (some kind of numerical sequence that translates to suspicion of something, or crime.. not exactly sure) which basically was the whole "hey, i see you there, you look like you're up to no good, let me arrest you and take you in to custody because i can." at least that's how i see it.

Ever heard of something called power abuse?

And yeah, with the right wing conservative Harper government, Canada is turning into Republican USA.

^this is sad.

Please do not double post. Use the 'edit'/'multiquote' buttons instead. ~Typhlosion

[DeadEyes]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that its not as corrupt as the media make it. Unfortunately there are going to be a very small minority's that will over step the mark. Don't believe every thing that you read in the papers, online or see in the news. There's always a spin to it

I believe the contrary in fact, that it's only the tip of the iceberg. For every stories reported, there's ten more remaining unknown.

[jordanhardy]

Hoe do you know that if they've never been reported? That's your interpretation of what the media portray. Out of all the reported cases, not all of them are found to be true. The media have a clever way of putting a spin on things. Like I said I can only go on what it's like in my country, it may be different abroad. Wherever you go, the police are always going to be an easy target to pick on because they can't really defend themselves. Your dammed if you do and your dammed if you don't.

[DeadEyes]

Hoe do you know that if they've never been reported?

It's know most cases of abuse aren't reported, such as rapes.

Wherever you go, the police are always going to be an easy target to pick on because they can't really defend themselves.

And so, you're defending your father's job.

[jordanhardy]

It's know most cases of abuse aren't reported, such as rapes.

How is it the Police's fault that most rapes aren't reported? Unless your implying that the Police are now raping everybody?

[DeadEyes]

How is it the Police's fault that most rapes aren't reported? Unless your implying that the Police are now raping everybody?

Got to love rambling and how it strays away from the point. I was only saying most cases
of abuse aren't reported, including power abuse.

[Typhlosion]

Guys, the thread is about the new canadian laws, and not how ill-equipped UK policemen are, or how dimly you view the world. All irrelevant posts have been deleted.