Straight Pride...

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

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Yes, straight pride is actually (apparently) a thing, and like all "majority pride" groups, it's mostly used to say. "We're more numerous/more powerful=We're better than you".

Blatant sexuality-discrimination aside, I'm glad that the heteroes have a flag to call their own. Even if it is (let's face it) kind of dull...

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[Luminous]

Straight pride is not necessary, it's already the norm. I dislike when people ask why "if we have gay parades, why don't we have straight parades", the answer is because they're not needed. When LGBTQ+ is normalized, we won't need the parades or flags or rainbow jewelry or any of that. So what's up with heterosexual pride? (Not to say if you're straight you shouldn't be proud, you should absolutely be proud of who you are, but there's certainly less need to justify yourself.)

[SethfromMI]

Straight pride is not necessary, it's already the norm. I dislike when people ask why "if we have gay parades, why don't we have straight parades", the answer is because they're not needed. When LGBTQ+ is normalized, we won't need the parades or flags or rainbow jewelry or any of that. So what's up with heterosexual pride? (Not to say if you're straight you shouldn't be proud, you should absolutely be proud of who you are, but there's certainly less need to justify yourself.)

thank you

[CosmicNoodle]

Wait, bisexuals have a flag? Damn, it's a shit one, fuck it, I'm using the standard rainbow one, I swing closer to gay anyway. (And why the shit does the Bi guy look creepy as fuck?)

And why the fuck, does a majority have a flag? They can if they want but it doesn't make sense to me, minority's use them to sort of bring them together and give them a common ground, why does a majority need that? Its like saying "all humans with legs unite!", I think they just felt left out :P

[Babs]

I hear a lot of straight people whining about not having a pride parade and all that. I don't think straight people need it. Surprise: straight people have been dominating society for centuries!
I use this example quite a bit when things along the lines of straight pride/white history month/etc. are brought up: y'all don't have straight parades for the same reason why, in Mario Kart, you don't get the lightning bolts and blue shells if you're already in first place.
Yes, be proud of who you are, but a parade is very unnecessary.

[Karkat]

I feel like flags themselves, as Hannah said, will eventually be irrelevant anyways, so this is kind of funny for that.

I think the reason a straight flag exists is that the LGBT scene has a tendency to be somewhat vicious and exclusive at times (Even to LGBT people themselves...Come on guys.) and obviously if you entirely exclude straight/ally

There will be no integration of LGBT into society because you create further segregation.

But yeah, I think largely straight people don't understand, and they get whiny because "oh look, special treatment".

It doesn't necessarily make them bad, just means that they aren't understanding. If giving them their own flag makes them feel more comfortable, whatever, I guess.

Anyways, the point I'm trying to get at is straight people see things like gay pride as irrelevant to them/an attack on who they are because they don't understand. Including things like the title of "ally", or a straight flag could be seen as a gesture of inclusion and goodwill.

I personally think it's kind of stupid, but society is fucked up on a grand scale, and this isn't a black and white issue: gay pride, the LGBT movement, etc. have their own faults and flaws. Straight pride is kind of stupid in concept, but the fact that straight people get lynched for owning their sexuality by LGBT kinda proves that they have some semblance of a point.

Even if it is extremely misguided.

Don't act like the LGBT community is all puppies and rainbows, guys. It can actually be pretty fucked up as well. A lot of people would like to think straights and cisgendered people are beneath them, and more think you have to fit a label to a tee to BE that label, and yet more think that bisexuals/asexuals/genderqueer/etc. are irrelevant or "watered-down"- the list goes on.

The LGBT community needs to get its shit together just as much as "everyone else" does. Being gay doesn't really make you enlightened, it just forces you into a position that you're more likely to take on an enlightened view. Remember that you can still be a bigot when you're part of the minority, and LGBT isn't synonymous for "loving and perfect".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You know what they say about glass houses and such. I'm not saying anyone HERE is guilty, but the LGBT community as a whole does have to do their part in not letting their pride in their sexuality turn into pretentiousness and condescension, and their empathy for the minority turn into ill-will towards everyone else.

Just saying.

[PinkFloyd]

Straight pride is not necessary, it's already the norm. I dislike when people ask why "if we have gay parades, why don't we have straight parades", the answer is because they're not needed. When LGBTQ+ is normalized, we won't need the parades or flags or rainbow jewelry or any of that. So what's up with heterosexual pride? (Not to say if you're straight you shouldn't be proud, you should absolutely be proud of who you are, but there's certainly less need to justify yourself.)

I agree completely.

[Living For Love]

There will be no integration of LGBT into society because you create further segregation.

Basically this.

Like it has been said before, flags aren't really necessary, but I think that the concept of LGBT pride has been changing a lot recently. I don't think we have the right to create some sort of parade just to show people how proud we are about our sexuality, whatever it is, we don't see straight pride movements, do we? The LGBT parades I'd like to see more should be focused on fighting discrimination and homophobia, creating LGBT parades like they are some sort of carnival shows only accentuates the negative ideas most people have towards the gay community (rainbows, glitters and cheap sex).

[ImagineRepublicCity]

Straight pride is not necessary, it's already the norm. I dislike when people ask why "if we have gay parades, why don't we have straight parades", the answer is because they're not needed. When LGBTQ+ is normalized, we won't need the parades or flags or rainbow jewelry or any of that. So what's up with heterosexual pride? (Not to say if you're straight you shouldn't be proud, you should absolutely be proud of who you are, but there's certainly less need to justify yourself.)

Exactly, why do you need to bring forth something which is common? It's like if we were trying to bring equality against races and someone was like "Why don't we start a white people campaign."

[ethana512]

That's dumb. The only reason gay pride is a thing is bc some ppl say it's bad to be gay. Nobody says that about straight people.

[DeadEyes]

Too many people, take too much pride, in too many things.

[Abyssal Echo]

Straight pride is not necessary, it's already the norm. I dislike when people ask why "if we have gay parades, why don't we have straight parades", the answer is because they're not needed. When LGBTQ+ is normalized, we won't need the parades or flags or rainbow jewelry or any of that. So what's up with heterosexual pride? (Not to say if you're straight you shouldn't be proud, you should absolutely be proud of who you are, but there's certainly less need to justify yourself.)

I can understand being proud of who or what you are but straight pride ?
I agree with Luxe Illusion it's not necessary.

[phuckphace]

You know what they say about glass houses and such. I'm not saying anyone HERE is guilty, but the LGBT community as a whole does have to do their part in not letting their pride in their sexuality turn into pretentiousness and condescension, and their empathy for the minority turn into ill-will towards everyone else.

I'd argue that the movement itself is inherently pretentious. I mean it's pretty much just a tiny band of outcasts who are mad about being outcasts and aren't going to give up whining until the big kids let them into their club. that's why don't buy the claim that it's just about wanting legal rights, or else everybody would just be gay in private and not give a shit. those who are more externally-focused and capable of humility don't notice or care.

the LGBT community is a victim group, and for every victim there is a boogeyman oppressor, so ill-will towards the majority is going to be a given. since the majority are Christians, there is simply no way that LGBT will ever gain widespread acceptance without de-normalizing Christianity first (inb4 da atheist kru proclaims this to be a good thing...it's not).

also, mfw these people claim "We're just like you!" I'd say you're quite obviously not or you wouldn't be ostracized to begin with.

[Karkat]

I'd argue that the movement itself is inherently pretentious. I mean it's pretty much just a tiny band of outcasts who are mad about being outcasts and aren't going to give up whining until the big kids let them into their club. that's why don't buy the claim that it's just about wanting legal rights, or else everybody would just be gay in private and not give a shit. those who are more externally-focused and capable of humility don't notice or care.

the LGBT community is a victim group, and for every victim there is a boogeyman oppressor, so ill-will towards the majority is going to be a given. since the majority are Christians, there is simply no way that LGBT will ever gain widespread acceptance without de-normalizing Christianity first (inb4 da atheist kru proclaims this to be a good thing...it's not).

also, mfw these people claim "We're just like you!" I'd say you're quite obviously not or you wouldn't be ostracized to begin with.

You're so far out in left field that I don't want to waste my time on a response, sorry.

Let's agree to disagree, because any further discussion between you and I would be thoroughly unproductive.

[phuckphace]

Let's agree to disagree, because any further discussion between you and I would be thoroughly unproductive.

that's precisely the opposite of what I was hoping for, actually. but yes, that's an excellent idea.

[Hyper]

Any kind of sexual, racial or national or any kind of ''I was born X so I am so proud'' is unnecessary.

[Luminous]

Any kind of sexual, racial or national or any kind of ''I was born X so I am so proud'' is unnecessary.

I disagree. I believe every person deserves to be proud of who they are. I'm not saying everyone should think they're better than everyone else, just that everyone should be able to love and embrace who they are. I agree with you to the point that you shouldn't be proud of yourself only because you're not white cishet, but instead because it's a part of what makes you, you - you should be just as proud of your brown hair, long legs, sense of humor, etc.

[Hyper]

I disagree. I believe every person deserves to be proud of who they are. I'm not saying everyone should think they're better than everyone else, just that everyone should be able to love and embrace who they are. I agree with you to the point that you shouldn't be proud of yourself only because you're not white cishet, but instead because it's a part of what makes you, you - you should be just as proud of your brown hair, long legs, sense of humor, etc.

Well I measure people by what they do not what they look like so I don't see any need to be proud that I have dark colored eyebrows or that I'm 5'11 or that I'm white.

I can understand the whole ''minorities need these movements'' thing but I also understand the ''some things have gone way too far'' argument.

[Whiskers]

I'm straight and I don't have pride in that fact