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CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 11:37 AM
I often poke fun at 'Murica for always sending troops into places all the time, but now the UK has gone and done it.

Here is das story:

The UK is sending 750 military personnel to Sierra Leone to help deal with the deadly Ebola outbreak, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond has confirmed.

He said the UK would also send a medical ship, the RFA Argus, and three Merlin helicopters.

Confirming the measures, Mr Hammond said: "We all have to do more if we are going to prevent what is currently a crisis from becoming a catastrophe."

More than 3,400 people have died in the outbreak, mostly in West Africa.

In Sierra Leone the death toll is at least 678. Save the Children has reported the rate of infection is rapidly increasing there, with five new cases every hour.

There is no cure or vaccine for Ebola, which has so far infected more than 7,200 people.

It comes as:

- A Texas hospital says the first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the US, Eric Duncan, has died

- The US Department of Homeland Security orders agents at airports and other ports to "observe" arrivals for potential signs of Ebola

- Further details emerge about the case of a Spanish nurse infected with Ebola - the first person known to have contracted the virus outside West Africa

- Downing Street said plans for protecting the UK against Ebola were discussed at a Cobra meeting, although the risk remains "low"

- Planning will now include a "national exercise and wider resilience training to ensure the UK is fully prepared"

- Public Health England repeats there are no plans to introduce screening for those arriving in the UK

- A meeting to discuss how prepared Scotland is for the virus is to be chaired by First Minister Alex Salmond

Mr Hammond, speaking at a press conference in Washington with US Secretary of State John Kerry, said military and civilian teams were already in Sierra Leone, working on constructing five new Ebola treatment facilities with 700 beds.

He said that at a meeting of the government's Cobra emergency committee in London - which he joined via video link - the decision was made to deploy the RFA Argus to Freetown, Sierra Leone's capital, along with the three helicopters.

Mr Hammond said trials of a new primary care triage system for those with early stage symptoms of Ebola was also taking place.

He said: "This disease is an unprecedented threat that knows no borders. We have to get ahead of this disease. If we get ahead of it and rise to the challenge, we can contain it and beat it."
The Royal Fleet Auxiliary Argus

He said the UK had committed more than $200m to the programme in Sierra Leone.

And he urged other countries to commit not only money but more resources, including medical personnel, to efforts to combat the virus.

Downing Street said the 750 troops included:

- 250 for the Royal Fleet Auxiliary ship Argus to take and support three Merlin helicopters, aircrew and engineers to provide transport support to medical teams and aid experts

- More than 200 to run and staff a World Health Organization-led Ebola training facility 300 making up the existing UK taskforce, focusing on delivering support to the Sierra Leone government

- Forty British military engineers have already travelled to the country to set up the facilities.

BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale said 100 troops had been due to travel to the country next week but they will now be joined by hundreds more.

"It shows Britain is clearly worried about this and is ramping up its efforts in the same way the US has done," said our correspondent.
US troops

Three hundred American troops have been deployed to neighbouring Liberia, also badly affected by the Ebola outbreak, to set up field hospitals.

About 3,000 more US soldiers are due to arrive there in the coming days to help with logistical support and training for health workers.

In the US, the Department of Homeland Security said passengers from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea would have their temperatures taken and have to answer questions, according to Reuters news agency.

But Public Health England said there were still no plans to follow suit.

In the case of the Spanish nurse, a doctor in Madrid has said Teresa Romero remembers touching her face with her gloves after treating a dying priest.

A World Health Organization adviser earlier warned that more cases could be expected among medical staff, even in developed countries.

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 11:39 AM
Well these days we do seem to be the USA's bitch...

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 11:43 AM
Well these days we do seem to be the USA's bitch...

In what way are we the US's bitch? Did I miss something? (I'm being serious, I havent watched the news in over a year)

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 11:52 AM
We've followed them into nearly all of the middle eastern conflicts within the last 14 years. Its not all a bad thing though, the US and the UK have a long history and a special relationship, no other two countries match us.

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 11:58 AM
We've followed them into nearly all of the middle eastern conflicts within the last 14 years. Its not all a bad thing though, the US and the UK have a long history and a special relationship, no other two countries match us.

Ok, lets stop now before we hykack. But I'd liek to say this. I don't quite see why we have a "special relationship", we did opress and fuck them up for a LONG time. And I do think there are countrys that can match us, most of the developed world in fact.

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 12:05 PM
Yeah, that's part of our nations history. Yes we did 'oppress' them if you like to use that term. However it paved way for the America that is known by everyone today. Back then we had the largest empire in the world and thanks to that, were more advanced than any other nation. Our 'special relationship' is meant in terms of trade, technology, military power etc. We are the two biggest allied nations in terms of warfare and support. What happens to us massively effects America and vice versa. When the US and the British put their heads together, there isn't many things that can get in the way of that.

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 12:08 PM
Yeah, that's part of our nations history. Yes we did 'oppress' them if you like to use that term. However it paved way for the America that is known by everyone today. Back then we had the largest empire in the world and thanks to that, were more advanced than any other nation. Our 'special relationship' is meant in terms of trade, technology, military power etc. We are the two biggest allied nations in terms of warfare and support. What happens to us massively effects America and vice versa. When the US and the British put their heads together, there isn't many things that can get in the way of that.

Ahhhh, I see what you mean, when we work together! I thougfht you meant us working alone. Admitedly yes, if we do work together there ain't a lot that can stand in the way. (appart from people working from tents in the middle east, for some reason we're having trouble with them)

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 12:10 PM
We're not the only ones having problems with them, that's why we're getting involved again, because the US and the British can do something about it

thatcountrykid
October 8th, 2014, 12:12 PM
Haha I just love how people get mad at AMERICA for not helping and get criticize us when we do

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 01:15 PM
I don't think the Britiah have ever been mad at the Americans for not helping, except it took 4 years for America to eventually help us in WW2

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 01:55 PM
Haha I just love how people get mad at AMERICA for not helping and get criticize us when we do

Just saying, I think you missed some words there, or added some...that didn't quite make sense.

I don't think the Britiah have ever been mad at the Americans for not helping, except it took 4 years for America to eventually help us in WW2

Yup, just sat there and ignored us, then stepped in just as we where about to win, then tried to take all the credit (and fooled none of the international community, only themselves). But then again, better than nothing I suppose.

thatcountrykid
October 8th, 2014, 02:09 PM
Just saying, I think you missed some words there, or added some...that didn't quite make sense.



Yup, just sat there and ignored us, then stepped in just as we where about to win, then tried to take all the credit (and fooled none of the international community, only themselves). But then again, better than nothing I suppose.

Why do you criticize us when we do help and critisize when we don't.

Yeah you sure where winning. Germany was at your front door.

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 02:15 PM
Why do you criticize us when we do help and critisize when we don't.

Because I love to trolollolololo, seriously though, and not trying to fight here, when you "help" you tend to just blow shit up and exasperate a situation. And thats not just the US, the UK is just as guilty, If you knew me you'd know I mock my own country just as much as yours, in my opinion they are as shit as each othetr, don't take it personally. The very nature of "peacekeeping" is a bad way to go.

Yeah you sure where winning. Germany was at your front door.

Have you ever read a history book? It's windly ackowleged that we where pushing them back at that point. (And germany is always at our front door, it's kinda just across the channle, just sayin)

thatcountrykid
October 8th, 2014, 03:07 PM
Have you ever read a history book? It's windly ackowleged that we where pushing them back at that point. (And germany is always at our front door, it's kinda just across the channle, just sayin)

I have read history in fact I study it a lot. As far as I can recall there wasn't a single British soldier on mainland Europe before the d-day invasions. Unless you count bombings and such.

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 03:15 PM
I have read history in fact I study it a lot. As far as I can recall there wasn't a single British soldier on mainland Europe before the d-day invasions. Unless you count bombings and such.

When I say "we" I mean the alies. (discluding the Americans of course, you guys didn't help out till later on at this point) We (the alies) where pushing them back at this point, and like I said, THATS when the Americans came in. And then acted as if you did it single handedly, but the Britishy can't talk, our militery has about the worst reputaion for murder, capture, opression and invasion in the history of organized militerys.

Vlerchan
October 8th, 2014, 03:49 PM
As far as I can recall there wasn't a single British soldier on mainland Europe before the d-day invasions.
If I remember correctly the British felt that North Africa was the most important theatre of the war.

British soldiers were focused there, intending to head up through Italy's soft underbelly (which they eventually did).

CosmicNoodle
October 8th, 2014, 04:56 PM
If I remember correctly the British felt that North Africa was the most important theatre of the war.

British soldiers were focused there, intending to head up through Italy's soft underbelly (which they eventually did).

Ahh yes, I had forgoten compleatly about North Africa, many thanks.

jordanhardy
October 8th, 2014, 06:58 PM
I have read history in fact I study it a lot. As far as I can recall there wasn't a single British soldier on mainland Europe before the d-day invasions. Unless you count bombings and such.

In fact the Beitish expeditionary force was in mainland Europe fighting with the French, however when the French gave in to the Germans, we had no option to retreat back to Britain as we no longer had any allied support in mainland Europe. Have you never heard of the battle of Dunkirk? After the retreat it then remained that way for years with the Royal Air Force and Navy defending Britain from invasion. Eventually the Americans decided to join only after Pearl harbour. It it wasn't for Japan attacking Hawai, then the U.S. would have left is to be invaded. The US only decided to fight in Europe because the Nazis allied themselves with Japan and were seen as a threat to the eastern Coast.

thatcountrykid
October 8th, 2014, 11:22 PM
In fact the Beitish expeditionary force was in mainland Europe fighting with the French, however when the French gave in to the Germans, we had no option to retreat back to Britain as we no longer had any allied support in mainland Europe. Have you never heard of the battle of Dunkirk? After the retreat it then remained that way for years with the Royal Air Force and Navy defending Britain from invasion. Eventually the Americans decided to join only after Pearl harbour. It it wasn't for Japan attacking Hawai, then the U.S. would have left is to be invaded. The US only decided to fight in Europe because the Nazis allied themselves with Japan and were seen as a threat to the eastern Coast.

No we were gonna join after Germany sent a message to Mexico asking them to declare war on us.

Plane And Simple
October 9th, 2014, 12:31 AM
This has gone way too off topic.

Back on topic with NO DEBATING from this post on, or this shall be locked.

As usual, you're welcome to discuss this in ROTW.