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CharlieHorse
September 29th, 2014, 03:17 AM
Does trying to hurt yourself mentally classify as being self harm? Like beating yourself up, and bringing yourself about emotional pain. If so, what can I do? It's not something i can simply stop doing. :/

CosmicNoodle
September 29th, 2014, 03:59 AM
Hmm....I suppose it does. Never really heard of this before, I'm stumped as to what to do...

James Dean
September 29th, 2014, 04:27 AM
That's an interesting observation. I have to say yes, as mental health can hurt just as bad as physical health does. Maybe sticking to a hobby or surrounding yourself with positive people can help. Listening to good music or learning a new language perhaps. Nobody's perfect and being thankful for the position that you are in, and not taking things to personally. Like if a friend or peer disrespects you. :)

Leprous
September 29th, 2014, 09:18 AM
Hmm, I think this would be concidered self harm, as CELT said, try finding a hobby, or something to just keep you bussy.

Magenta
September 29th, 2014, 11:42 AM
I don't think this falls under the true definition of self-harm, no. However, it is a negative behaviour. If you stay in one mindset where you're trying to bring yourself down, of course you can't stop. Because your mind starts to think that is normal. This is where therapies like CBT come in handy. It teaches you how to retrain your thoughts so you aren't thinking this way. I don't think it's self-harm or every person with depression could be classed as a self-harmer with no actual self-harming tendencies. It's your attitude and mindset that's an issue, but you can get help for that because it is a dangerous place to put yourself as those thoughts and things you tell yourself will only get worse.

ksdnfkfr
September 29th, 2014, 12:10 PM
Great subject Charlie. I say yes. I think it causes actual harm to the body the same as stress. When people post here about their struggles because of a mental or psychological problem, I tell them it's not a character flaw and not to mentally beat themselves up over it. Bullying and name calling is abusive, even when you do it to yourself.

TheN3rdyOutcast
September 29th, 2014, 01:27 PM
I belive mental self harm is actually more dangerous than physical self harm. For physical self harm without a motive to lean against isn't much of a real threat. However, when Physical and mental self harm team up, it'll fuck you up really badly.

CharlieHorse
September 30th, 2014, 02:11 AM
Hmm....I suppose it does. Never really heard of this before, I'm stumped as to what to do...

I know it's unusual. :/

That's an interesting observation. I have to say yes, as mental health can hurt just as bad as physical health does. Maybe sticking to a hobby or surrounding yourself with positive people can help. Listening to good music or learning a new language perhaps. Nobody's perfect and being thankful for the position that you are in, and not taking things to personally. Like if a friend or peer disrespects you. :)

Hmm, I think this would be concidered self harm, as CELT said, try finding a hobby, or something to just keep you bussy.

I don't think this falls under the true definition of self-harm, no. However, it is a negative behaviour. If you stay in one mindset where you're trying to bring yourself down, of course you can't stop. Because your mind starts to think that is normal. This is where therapies like CBT come in handy. It teaches you how to retrain your thoughts so you aren't thinking this way. I don't think it's self-harm or every person with depression could be classed as a self-harmer with no actual self-harming tendencies. It's your attitude and mindset that's an issue, but you can get help for that because it is a dangerous place to put yourself as those thoughts and things you tell yourself will only get worse.

Great subject Charlie. I say yes. I think it causes actual harm to the body the same as stress. When people post here about their struggles because of a mental or psychological problem, I tell them it's not a character flaw and not to mentally beat themselves up over it. Bullying and name calling is abusive, even when you do it to yourself.

I belive mental self harm is actually more dangerous than physical self harm. For physical self harm without a motive to lean against isn't much of a real threat. However, when Physical and mental self harm team up, it'll fuck you up really badly.

The only problem is that I feel like I enjoy it. It feels good.

ksdnfkfr
September 30th, 2014, 01:32 PM
The only problem is that I feel like I enjoy it. It feels good.

That's the weird thing with self harm, it does feel satisfying.

CharlieHorse
September 30th, 2014, 05:57 PM
That's the weird thing with self harm, it does feel satisfying.

how can i stop? :(

ksdnfkfr
September 30th, 2014, 08:34 PM
how can i stop? :(

I had to get counseling to help me understand why I was doing mental and psychical self harm and therefore how to deal with it.

Karkat
October 2nd, 2014, 07:32 PM
I feel conflicted. I agree with just about everything said so far.

-On one hand, it's probably just as damaging, if not more so

-However, on the other...It's different. Physical self-harm is a different process entirely. They're just really not comparable.

I feel like it's still a HUGE problem, but this also is a problem for those who have a hard enough time refraining from self-harm but beat themselves up inside as well. I don't think it should count if nothing else but for the fact that if you are beating yourself up inside, you could count that as a relapse- then nothing would stop you from actual physical self-harm.

But that's just my take.

CharlieHorse
October 2nd, 2014, 07:34 PM
I feel conflicted. I agree with just about everything said so far.

-On one hand, it's probably just as damaging, if not more so

-However, on the other...It's different. Physical self-harm is a different process entirely. They're just really not comparable.

I feel like it's still a HUGE problem, but this also is a problem for those who have a hard enough time refraining from self-harm but beat themselves up inside as well. I don't think it should count if nothing else but for the fact that if you are beating yourself up inside, you could count that as a relapse- then nothing would stop you from actual physical self-harm.

But that's just my take.

I know it's different from Physical Self Harm, but on the forums, it seemed like the best category for the thread.
The weird thing is that I don't self harm... don't want to

Karkat
October 2nd, 2014, 07:36 PM
I know it's different from Physical Self Harm, but on the forums, it seemed like the best category for the thread.
The weird thing is that I don't self harm... don't want to

Oh, that wasn't what I meant. :P I understand your reasoning, I'm just saying that it doesn't really seem like it should be treated quite the same.

That's a good thing. :)

CharlieHorse
October 2nd, 2014, 07:59 PM
Oh, that wasn't what I meant. :P I understand your reasoning, I'm just saying that it doesn't really seem like it should be treated quite the same.

That's a good thing. :)

yeah ok.
i just wonder how to treat it :/