Prostitution (Should it be Legal?)

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

TBH, I never understood why prostitution is illegal. It's really none of the governments business what two (or more) consenting adults do in the bedroom. However, on the flip side, it can be a cause of STD spreading and unintended pregnancy.

Should prostitution be legalized, remain illegal, or become legal with stipulations?

[Lovelife090994]

Technically prostitution is one of the world's oldest professions and legalizing it would make some of the violence and disease with it go down if not cease since the government would control, monitor, and patrol it. I wish it was legal since sex between two consensual adults even for pay shouldn't be illegal. If both are clean, willing, and no one gets raped, why not? It could bring money and jobs.

[Typhlosion]

[-]I see no problem with the sex indu[/-]

Okay, I see a problem with the sex industry, but it's definitely not on prostitution. I see no problem on people wanting to engage in consensual for money. The problem is in the lack of prostitution: sex tourism. People that travel to third world countries, sometimes having sex with minors, going against jurisdiction, abusing a weak economy population, and maybe even get an STD. Liberating prostitution in the US would reduce the quantity of sex tourism that goes on.

[ChrisTJ]

I agree that prostitution should be legalised. Only that way can you properly protect the women that work in the industry. The industry would be taken out of the hands of dangerous criminal gangs who abuse the women who work in the industry and working girls could be given a number of rights. Of course as seen in the Netherlands the underworld will still operate brothels and stuff and underage girls will still be brought into the industry but the government can concentrate on dealing with that while the above board market goes on.

[Christen]

in germany it IS legal. prostittes that do legally even pay taxes and social services. forced prostitution and pimping is illegal.sure not a perfect system but partially works.
if forbidden it just goes underground and is even harder to check.

[Gamma Male]

I think we should fully legalize it and leave it up to prostitute unions to decide upon the necessary legal regulations.

Previously I've said the government should come up with and impose the regulations, but that's just as bad as making it illegal. We should let them decide for themselves what regulations are appropriate.


And legalizing it would decrease STD's and violence, not increase it, so I fail to see how that's an argument against legalization.

I'd also like to point out that there is very little evidence to suggest that making prostitution illegal decreases it.

[Vlerchan]

I think we should fully legalize it and leave it up to prostitute unions to decide upon the necessary legal regulations.
Would you mind explaining how this process would work?

How broad are we using the term "regulations" also.

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I also think prostitution should be legal. I think the bigger problem is that the woman that involving themselves in this lacking options.

[Harry Smith]

yeah I can see 'prostitute unions' being difficult to maintain due to the pretty irregular nature of the business-along with the Stigma

[Gamma Male]

Would you mind explain being how this process would work?

How broad are we using the term "regulations" also.

Voluntary prostitutes unions and councils would form with the help of the government initially and they would democratically decide upon what regulations and systems they deem appropriate. These regulations would then be enforced upon all brothels(I'm assuming some sort of brothel system would be used). These would include safety regulations, workers rights, those things.

The regulations would not be violently enforced but violating them would get you kicked out of the union.


Now, in order for this to work we would have to get all of the brothels a strong incentive to join the union. And to be honest I'm still figuring out how that would work. :lol:

I'm assuming the best way to convince as many prostitutes and brothels to join the union would be to offer increased safety and increased profits.



I don't believe any of these regulations should be enforced violently, I just think we need to offer a very strong incentive to follow the regulations and the benefits provided by unionization seem like the best way to do that.



This way stds, rape, and violence would go down without violating the bodily autonomy of the prostitutes by forcing them to adhere to regulations.

yeah I can see 'prostitute unions' being difficult to maintain due to the pretty irregular nature of the business-along with the Stigma

I don't really see why they couldn't be maintained. The stigma is outdated and needs to be done away with anyway, there is nothing wrong with becoming a prostitute if that's what you so choose.

[Vlerchan]

These regulations would then be enforced upon all brothels.
I hope you realise that this bit is a lot trickier than convincing woman to join unions.

I'm having a hard time imagining workable arguments.

[Gamma Male]

I hope you realise that this bit is a lot trickier than convincing woman to join unions.

I'm having a hard time imagining workable arguments.

Considering the brothels would all be worker run and all of the regulations would be to protect the workers I don't think it would be too big of a problem.

[CosmicNoodle]

[-]I see no problem with the sex indu[/-]

Okay, I see a problem with the sex industry, but it's definitely not on prostitution. I see no problem on people wanting to engage in consensual for money. The problem is in the lack of prostitution: sex tourism. People that travel to third world countries, sometimes having sex with minors, going against jurisdiction, abusing a weak economy population, and maybe even get an STD. Liberating prostitution in the US would reduce the quantity of sex tourism that goes on.

He made some of my point for me, I would like to add that it happens anyway, even if its not legal, where I live at least you can walk I to nearly and bar and there are prostitutes all over the place...I stay away from them, I don't want an std at 17.

I see no reason it should be illegal, at least if you legalise it you can regulate it to make sure its a safer practice.

[Aajj333]

I think they should lessen the penalty for the prostitues because most of them are being forced to be prostitues because their pimp threatens them or their family and most often the prostitue ends up being the main victim. On the flip side the pimp should be sent to prison for life.

[thatcountrykid]

I say illegal. It is too dangerous for the prostitutes them selves.

[Miserabilia]

Make it legal but with restrictions and monitoring. It would actualy solve more problems than cause it.

[Vlerchan]

Considering the brothels would all be worker run and all of the regulations would be to protect the workers I don't think it would be too big of a problem.
Are you aware of any industries that are dominated by worker's cooperatives?

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I also believe what you propose is ideal. It's just too idyllic in the context of the current economic model.

[Gamma Male]

I say illegal. It is too dangerous for the prostitutes them selves.

It's dangerous because it's illegal. In countries where they have legalized and regulated It violence, drug use, and stds are all much less common.

If you don't want to legalize it (which I'm assuming you won't) then how do you suggest we stop it or make it safer? Because I think it's obvious the current methods aren't working.

Are you aware of any industries that are dominated by worker's cooperatives?

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I also believe what you propose is ideal. It's just too idyllic in the context of the current economic model.

You're probably right. We would probably have to enforce regulations by the government at first and then slowly transition to a democratically controlled system.

[DeadEyes]

Sure it should be legalized, as everything legal, it wouldn't be ruled by the criminal underworld then.

[thatcountrykid]

It's dangerous because it's illegal. In countries where they have legalized and regulated It violence, drug use, and stds are all much less common.

If you don't want to legalize it (which I'm assuming you won't) then how do you suggest we stop it or make it safer? Because I think it's obvious the current methods aren't working.



You're probably right. We would probably have to enforce regulations by the government at first and then slowly transition to a democratically controlled system.

You've got it backwards. It's illegal cause it's dangerous. There really no way to stop it. The best thing would be to make it hard for the to make money. There's no way to make it safer. They need to do that.

[Gamma Male]

You've got it backwards. It's illegal cause it's dangerous. There really no way to stop it. The best thing would be to make it hard for the to make money. There's no way to make it safer. They need to do that.

Do you admit that making prostitution illegal hasn't actually decreased how often it happens or made it safer?



Also, if the proper safety regulations were put in place, wouldn't legal, controlled prostitution be much safer for the prostitutes than illegal prostitution?


And one more question. Do you believe pornography should be illegal?

[DeadEyes]

You've got it backwards. It's illegal cause it's dangerous. There really no way to stop it. The best thing would be to make it hard for the to make money. There's no way to make it safer. They need to do that.

Following your logic, cigarettes and alcohol should still be illegal because it's dangerous. Straight back to the prohibition.

[Body odah Man]

Illegal. It just brings so many problems along with it and is sifnul besides

[Gamma Male]

Illegal. It just brings so many problems along with it
You mean like stds and violence and rape?


All of which are still occuring with prostitution legal but are less common in countries with regulated prostitution?


and is sifnul besides

You can't really make something illegal because it's "sinful".

[Body odah Man]

You mean like stds and violence and rape?


All of which are still occuring with prostitution legal but are less common in countries with regulated prostitution?




You can't really make something illegal because it's "sinful".

Allright I concede to ur second point but not to the first. In Holland prostitution is legal. There's still a lot of bad stuff happening. Legalizing it doesn't rlly prevent the bad stuff

[Vlerchan]

There's still a lot of bad stuff happening.
It's also reported more because the woman who get abused aren't afraid of getting locked up.

Legalizing it doesn't rlly prevent the bad stuff
Nobody claimed it would "prevent" it.

It was claimed that it would "reduce" it though.

[Gamma Male]

Allright I concede to ur second point but not to the first. In Holland prostitution is legal. There's still a lot of bad stuff happening. Legalizing it doesn't rlly prevent the bad stuff

Are you seriously trying to say that brothels with bodyguards present and required use of condoms wouldn't be safer than just going out onto the street alone and risking getting raped or murdered or robbed?

And how do you propose we combat prostitution? Because it's already illegal in America and all the bad things you listed occur very frequently.

[asrlem]

I think it should be legal as long as they have protection because then there are higher rates of std and abortions and i personally disagree with the abortion completely. Anyway if they both consent to it then they should be able to do it.

[James Dean]

It depends. As long as the woman, (because I'm trying to be general that prostitution here in the United States usually centers around women) is clean and isn't on drugs and she has a website or is a call girl sort of thing.

If it's centered around drugs, and assault and abuse then no it's not ok and that needs to be stopped.

[Babs]

I think it should be legal. Regulated prostitution is safer than having it illegal. The fact that's illegal doesn't mean that people don't do it. But when it's in a regulated, safe environment, people are still gonna do it, but they'll be safer.
Or something. I have a sleep deprived brain.