Emma Watson Delivers Stirring Speech at U.N.

[Lovelife090994]

From: https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/emma-watson-delivers-stirring-speech-at-u-n-204442194.html


Actress and United Nations Goodwill Ambassador Emma Watson gave a powerful speech on gender equality at the U.N. on Saturday, helping to launch her new initiative, HeForShe.

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Emma Watson takes notes during an event at Parliament in Montevideo, Uruguay. (9/17/14) (AP Photo/Matilde Campodonico)

The campaign urges men to take a stand against gender inequality of all types. The Harry Potter and Bling Ring actresses speech was attended by Kiefer Sutherland and Forest Whitaker, among many others, E! Online reports.

Also present: United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who invoked Watson's most famous role while praising the star's efforts to advance the cause of equality. "She's been using her magic wand in her movie. I hope she will use [her] magic want to stop violence against women," he said, according to E! Online.

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The speech touched on many issues, including the confusion over the word feminism.

"I was appointed as Goodwill Ambassador for U.N. Women six months ago and the more I've spoken about feminism, the more I have realized that fighting for women's rights has too often become synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is that this has to stop."

"Feminism," Watson continued, "is, by definition, the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. It is the theory of the political, economic and social equality of the sexes."

Watson also spoke about how women "are choosing not to identify as feminists" and the word's apparent toxicity. She remarked, "Apparently, I am among the ranks of women whose expressions are seen as too strong, 'too aggressive,' isolating and anti-men, unattractive, even. Why has the word become such an uncomfortable one?"

Seeking to include men in her campaign, Watson spoke about how gender inequality can negatively affect men as much as women.

"Gender equality is your issue too. Because to date, I've seen my father's role as a parent being valued less by society despite my needing his presence, as a child, as much as my mother's. I've seen young men suffering from mental illness, unable to ask for help, for fear it would make them less of a men—or less of a man. In fact, in the U.K., suicide is the biggest killer of men, between 20 to 49, eclipsing road accidents, cancer and coronary heart disease. I've seen men made fragile and insecure by a distorted sense of what constitutes male success. Men don't have the benefits of equality, either."

Watson acknowledged that some people hearing her speech may wonder, "Who is this Harry Potter girl? What is she doing at the U.N.?"

"It's a really good question," Watson said. "I've been asking myself at the same thing. All I know is that I care about this problem and I want to make it better. And having seen what I've seen and given the chance, I feel my responsibility to say something. Statesman Edmund Burke said all that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing."

For more information about HeForShe, check out the program's official site. A full transcript of Watson's speech can be read here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iFl4qhBsE This is the video



I don't like the term feminist I am a person for people, for women, for men, for all. Feminism is often used to hide anti-male views (is there a word for hatred to men that is unfair?) I agree with much of Emma Watson's speech, but some things I disagree on respectfully. I just wish male double standards weren't so enforced, I wish men weren't seen as dirty and mean, and I wish men had shelters when they are domestic abuse victims, and I wish men like me who are "soft," shy, sensitive, and at times overly-empathetic would be more accepted as men. I wish freedom was worldwide. I wish men were encouraged to speak out and be emotional. I wish men and women had a say in childbirth because we can't reverse nature and have it where men carry. And we cannot act like there are not women out there who had a baby to ensnare her man; because it does happen. Men and women should be paid equally (unless titles differ.) There should be colleges for men, as well as women and co-ed.

I applaud Emma. Smart, beautiful, caring, courageous, credible, and more than an actress and natural beauty, but a true woman.
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I am open to everyone's views but please don't fight. We need to know all sides here and to work for peace.

[Karkat]

The term you are looking for is misandrist/misandry.

I feel like there are a lot of feminists out there who don't know jack shit about feminism, but that's not why I'm not a feminist. (By label)

Actually, I have no problem with feminism. My problem lies more in the hypocrisy and skeeviness of much of modern activism. I hate it. If you do not follow the guilt-trip and donate/do this/do that/call yourself something, you must be a TERRIBLE person, regardless of anything else you've done in life as a person. (See: "I don't know why anyone wouldn't be a feminist! *angry rampage", ALS ice bucket challenge, ASPCA commercials.)

I believe in gender equality. (However, this doesn't mean I believe that gender identity should be treated like biological sex is- they aren't the same thing.)

Also have to emphatically disagree with men having TOO much say in childbirth for some of the exact reasons you stated. After all, the man is NOT the one carrying the child, therefore a woman shouldn't be forced to have one if she doesn't want to. Likewise, if he doesn't want one, and she does, he shouldn't be able to force her to have an abortion.

Safe sex is a thing.

[Gamma Male]

People say "if feminists are so for gender equality, why are they called feminists and not EQUALISTS? Huh!?"

But does it really matter? It'd just a word. They do support gender equality, regardless of the connotation of the label. I challenge you to find a single feminist who doesn't also want to abolish male gender stereotypes.

[Karkat]

People say "if feminists are so for gender equality, why are they called feminists and not EQUALISTS? Huh!?"

But does it really matter? It'd just a word. They do support gender equality, regardless of the connotation of the label. I challenge you to find a single feminist who doesn't also want to abolish male gender stereotypes.

Sadly, there are plenty...

Some feminists get WAY out of line.

I mean, granted, they're not representative of feminism in and of itself, but they sure do (irritate the hell out of everyone) give feminism a bad name.

Then you've got these saccharine feminist-bloggers who are sjw and majored in gender studies or whatever

Who basically just talk down to people because they were rich enough/stupid enough to blow money on a degree that is hardly practical.

These are also the types who will preach to you about how terrible of a person you are if you don't consider yourself a feminist and like proudly declare that or whatever. And I have a serious problem with this.

It doesn't matter that supposedly "not calling yourself a feminist is perpetuating sexism" (uh, how about being sexist perpetuates sexism?)

You shouldn't have to extort people to follow a cause.

[Lovelife090994]

The term you are looking for is misandrist/misandry.

I feel like there are a lot of feminists out there who don't know jack shit about feminism, but that's not why I'm not a feminist. (By label)

Actually, I have no problem with feminism. My problem lies more in the hypocrisy and skeeviness of much of modern activism. I hate it. If you do not follow the guilt-trip and donate/do this/do that/call yourself something, you must be a TERRIBLE person, regardless of anything else you've done in life as a person. (See: "I don't know why anyone wouldn't be a feminist! *angry rampage", ALS ice bucket challenge, ASPCA commercials.)

I believe in gender equality. (However, this doesn't mean I believe that gender identity should be treated like biological sex is- they aren't the same thing.)

Also have to emphatically disagree with men having TOO much say in childbirth for some of the exact reasons you stated. After all, the man is NOT the one carrying the child, therefore a woman shouldn't be forced to have one if she doesn't want to. Likewise, if he doesn't want one, and she does, he shouldn't be able to force her to have an abortion.

Safe sex is a thing.

Actually I wasn't saying the same thing you said about childbirth. I don't think men have enough say. People treat men like sperm donors who have no say in childbirth when you can't reverse nature and make men carry it. Besides, I'm tired of hearing stories of men as victims and men and women ignoring it. Personally, I am pro-life, I am not okay with abortion because when a woman is pregnant she is more than just a woman, she is a woman carrying a child to be born. I am not sorry for my views, nor will I be changing them either. I don't follow labels much, they never suit me, (not even the gender options) but that's another story.

[Vlerchan]

I challenge you to find a single feminist who doesn't also want to abolish male gender stereotypes.
Every single Liberal Feminist?

[Lovelife090994]

People say "if feminists are so for gender equality, why are they called feminists and not EQUALISTS? Huh!?"

But does it really matter? It'd just a word. They do support gender equality, regardless of the connotation of the label. I challenge you to find a single feminist who doesn't also want to abolish male gender stereotypes.

There is tons of misandry among feminists.

[Harry Smith]

talk about not understanding a speech.

The fact you comment on her appearance about 3 times sums it up.

You never hear anyone say about Tony Blair-that was such a good speak, I can't believe he's smart and attractive

[Lovelife090994]

talk about not understanding a speech.

The fact you comment on her appearance about 3 times sums it up.

You never hear anyone say about Tony Blair-that was such a good speak, I can't believe he's smart and attractive

Who are you talking to?

[Harry Smith]

Who are you talking to?

Your initial comment about her, I was just trying to work out why you mentioned her appearance?

[Lovelife090994]

Your initial comment about her, I was just trying to work out why you mentioned her appearance?

Where did I mention her appearance? I posted this to YouTube too and people understood me very well. I'd trust you would (without your filters of course.) I stated my opinion on the speech, I understand her and agree mostly. What's the problem dear?

[Harry Smith]

Where did I mention her appearance?

I assume the part in white below was your own opinion

I applaud Emma. Smart, beautiful, caring, courageous, credible, and more than an actress and natural beauty, but a true women.

[Lovelife090994]

I assume the part in white below was your own opinion

So me calling her beautiful is bad to you? I'm not going to call her ugly.

[Harry Smith]

So me calling her beautiful is bad to you? I'm not going to call her ugly.

I never said it was bad. It's just an interesting gender dynamic to do with women when they get involved with politics

[Lovelife090994]

I never said it was bad. It's just an interesting gender dynamic to do with women when they get involved with politics

Like what? What dynamic? Calling a woman beautiful and a true beauty is a compliment.

[Harry Smith]

Like what? What dynamic? Calling a woman beautiful and a true beauty is a compliment.

it's just interesting how women in politics are always judged by their appearance

[Lovelife090994]

it's just interesting how women in politics are always judged by their appearance

I'm not judging her. I complimented here. This is why feminism gets a bad name whenever it's wrong to give a compliment.

[Harry Smith]

I'm not judging her. I complimented here. This is why feminism gets a bad name whenever it's wrong to give a compliment.

This is nothing to do with feminism, this is just my personal view about how women are objectified in politics

[Lovelife090994]

This is nothing to do with feminism, this is just my personal view about how women are objectified in politics

Calling a woman beautiful isn't objectifying her. Raping her because she's a sex doll in your eyes is objectification.

[CosmicNoodle]

Ill just say, the fact you have to ask the question "Do you support gender equality?" in the first place is discusting, I really thought the human race would have pulled there shit together and delt with crap like this years ago by now. I am ashamed to be human,

If you dont support equality your a moron and I want nothing to do with you.

[Karkat]

Actually I wasn't saying the same thing you said about childbirth. I don't think men have enough say. People treat men like sperm donors who have no say in childbirth when you can't reverse nature and make men carry it. Besides, I'm tired of hearing stories of men as victims and men and women ignoring it. Personally, I am pro-life, I am not okay with abortion because when a woman is pregnant she is more than just a woman, she is a woman carrying a child to be born. I am not sorry for my views, nor will I be changing them either. I don't follow labels much, they never suit me, (not even the gender options) but that's another story.

I don't think men have enough say either, however I'm fairly disgusted that someone who supposedly supports gender equality thinks it's ok to force childbirth upon a woman.

I mean, I wouldn't expect you to fully understand the ramifications of what you're saying, given that you're biologically male, and couldn't actually give birth, but all the same, you're kind of overstepping your bounds when you have an opinion like that.

Not your body, you honestly shouldn't have a say. Sorry.

I think it's stupid that men don't have more parental rights, and aren't taken seriously as victims of such things, but forcing a child on a woman who doesn't want one is outright misogynistic.

I feel like couples need to discuss their views on having children, birth control, and abortion before they start having sex... If you're not responsible enough to do so, you shouldn't be having sex or in a relationship. I don't care if you're 40. If you're that puerile, you can be celibate and single. It's better for the genepool anyways.

No, a woman is a vessel with a uterus. If sperm enters her body by any means, she has the chance of pregnancy. Therefore, she can be trapped into childbirth by so called "pro-life" ideals at any time with no way out. And, due to the same attitudes you have about men having parental rights(Not that it's entirely bad- it's just abused when it is enforced. Naturally.), she can be forced to be in contact with someone who will at very least bring back awful memories, and at best is a danger to her and her child.

When a woman is given the option of a safe abortion, she is no longer just a babymaker, she is a person; now, she has the right to decide what happens to her body. Men don't face this issue, men don't really have a right to decide...

This is like me going out and voting on whether or not men should be able to have vasectomies or something. It's irrelevant to my anatomy; it's not my business to begin with.

Once again, it's not about the label, it's about the psychology behind it. I can't support forcing labels down people's throats. If you don't want to call yourself a feminist, but you're for gender equality, I'm not going to undermine and belittle you for it.

[Lovelife090994]

I don't think men have enough say either, however I'm fairly disgusted that someone who supposedly supports gender equality thinks it's ok to force childbirth upon a woman.

I mean, I wouldn't expect you to fully understand the ramifications of what you're saying, given that you're biologically male, and couldn't actually give birth, but all the same, you're kind of overstepping your bounds when you have an opinion like that.

Not your body, you honestly shouldn't have a say. Sorry.

I think it's stupid that men don't have more parental rights, and aren't taken seriously as victims of such things, but forcing a child on a woman who doesn't want one is outright misogynistic.

I feel like couples need to discuss their views on having children, birth control, and abortion before they start having sex... If you're not responsible enough to do so, you shouldn't be having sex or in a relationship. I don't care if you're 40. If you're that puerile, you can be celibate and single. It's better for the genepool anyways.

No, a woman is a vessel with a uterus. If sperm enters her body by any means, she has the chance of pregnancy. Therefore, she can be trapped into childbirth by so called "pro-life" ideals at any time with no way out. And, due to the same attitudes you have about men having parental rights(Not that it's entirely bad- it's just abused when it is enforced. Naturally.), she can be forced to be in contact with someone who will at very least bring back awful memories, and at best is a danger to her and her child.

When a woman is given the option of a safe abortion, she is no longer just a babymaker, she is a person; now, she has the right to decide what happens to her body. Men don't face this issue, men don't really have a right to decide...

This is like me going out and voting on whether or not men should be able to have vasectomies or something. It's irrelevant to my anatomy; it's not my business to begin with.

Once again, it's not about the label, it's about the psychology behind it. I can't support forcing labels down people's throats. If you don't want to call yourself a feminist, but you're for gender equality, I'm not going to undermine and belittle you for it.

You have that right if you want men to get vasectomies. Their children affect you or will somehow later. Honestly big families should have it where both get "fixed" but that probably won't happen. I understand what you're saying, I'm not a woman, I have no uterus, not sure I want to either, seems cumbersome and painful at the thought of childbirth. But the woman is not a babymaker either, she is a woman expecting a child. What about the new life now denied entry in the world? Is overpopulation in some parts of the world enough to render abortion 100% legal? Should wives be able to abort without the husband's knowledge? I don't think so. Should men have right to vasectomy without the wife's knowledge? I don't think so either on that. I see what you mean but I can't undermine my views here, and I can't be okay with abortion or pretend I am. Not even for you even though you've proven to care about me. Abortion is just something I'm not in to or used to. And people that are for it act as if a child is totally expendable. Whether you do this or not is your prerogative. And a person can be pro-life and for gender equality. Abortion brings in life or death here, so obviously I side with life. Honestly, the very notion of abortion scares me, and the idea of it irks something in me. I see why a woman would do so from rape, or why a woman would do so if the baby is parasitic, or why a woman would do so very early in pregnancy, but I still don't like the idea.

[Karkat]

You have that right if you want men to get vasectomies. Their children affect you or will somehow later. Honestly big families should have it where both get "fixed" but that probably won't happen. I understand what you're saying, I'm not a woman, I have no uterus, not sure I want to either, seems cumbersome and painful at the thought of childbirth. But the woman is not a babymaker either, she is a woman expecting a child. What about the new life now denied entry in the world? Is overpopulation in some parts of the world enough to render abortion 100% legal? Should wives be able to abort without the husband's knowledge? I don't think so. Should men have right to vasectomy without the wife's knowledge? I don't think so either on that. I see what you mean but I can't undermine my views here, and I can't be okay with abortion or pretend I am. Not even for you even though you've proven to care about me. Abortion is just something I'm not in to or used to. And people that are for it act as if a child is totally expendable. Whether you do this or not is your prerogative. And a person can be pro-life and for gender equality. Abortion brings in life or death here, so obviously I side with life. Honestly, the very notion of abortion scares me, and the idea of it irks something in me. I see why a woman would do so from rape, or why a woman would do so if the baby is parasitic, or why a woman would do so very early in pregnancy, but I still don't like the idea.

...You just put a ton of words in my mouth here. When did I ever say any of this?

Also, I had a miscarriage, not an abortion. That is different. I don't think I'll ever get an abortion unless it was life-threatening to me, or I was raped. However, I do support the rights of women who don't want to bring a child into the world when they can't support it, or who might get one for other reasons. Do I support the idiots who make Facebook statuses going "50 likes and I'll keep it lolz"? Absolutely not. But that has very little to do with abortion, and everything to do with idiocy. These are the kinds of people who would kill their children in Burger King restrooms and throw them in the dumpster anyways. Because they're a cancer to society as it is.

Being pro-choice isn't being pro-abortion. It's saying that you support women's rights to have the choice, seeing as it is their body. But this is getting fairly off topic and circular.

Also, it'd still be none of my business if a man wanted to get a vasectomy. Just saying. And it really shouldn't be.

[Vlerchan]

So far VTs self-declared Feminists are all males.

I'm still working out what can be drawn from that.

[Lovelife090994]

...You just put a ton of words in my mouth here. When did I ever say any of this?

Also, I had a miscarriage, not an abortion. That is different. I don't think I'll ever get an abortion unless it was life-threatening to me, or I was raped. However, I do support the rights of women who don't want to bring a child into the world when they can't support it, or who might get one for other reasons. Do I support the idiots who make Facebook statuses going "50 likes and I'll keep it lolz"? Absolutely not. But that has very little to do with abortion, and everything to do with idiocy. These are the kinds of people who would kill their children in Burger King restrooms and throw them in the dumpster anyways. Because they're a cancer to society as it is.

Being pro-choice isn't being pro-abortion. It's saying that you support women's rights to have the choice, seeing as it is their body. But this is getting fairly off topic and circular.

Also, it'd still be none of my business if a man wanted to get a vasectomy. Just saying. And it really shouldn't be.

I didn't put words in your mouth. I am just replying here and trying not to tread on glass. What's so bad about being pro-life? I care about life. True, no idiot should be having kids and if you can't support the child then I guess I can see why an abortion is better than murder, but still it is a life or death issue. I see where choice is good, but I am far from liberal and I am not going to change my mind on abortion so easily. I'm sorry for your loss in miscarriage. My aunt had at least two miscarriages and it hurts her dearly to this day. But where does that tie into abortion? You don't ask to miscarry. You ask to get an abortion.

[Karkat]

I didn't put words in your mouth. I am just replying here and trying not to tread on glass. What's so bad about being pro-life? I care about life. True, no idiot should be having kids and if you can't support the child then I guess I can see why an abortion is better than murder, but still it is a life or death issue. I see where choice is good, but I am far from liberal and I am not going to change my mind on abortion so easily. I'm sorry for your loss in miscarriage. My aunt had at least two miscarriages and it hurts her dearly to this day. But where does that tie into abortion? You don't ask to miscarry. You ask to get an abortion.

I've never really heard a pro-life argument that argues in favor of the children created by it, or the mothers who can't be/don't want to be mothers. Arguably, I'd ask you what's so bad about being pro-choice?

...This is why I hate politics. People assume you have to pick a side. I wouldn't call myself a liberal, though a fair amount of my views side with liberal ideology, at least to some extent.

You said you don't condone abortion "even for me". It's not exactly hidden knowledge that I almost had a kid, I figured you misread a post of mine. I misread your post obviously, and I apologize. Thank you for your sympathy.

[Lovelife090994]

I've never really heard a pro-life argument that argues in favor of the children created by it, or the mothers who can't be/don't want to be mothers. Arguably, I'd ask you what's so bad about being pro-choice?

...This is why I hate politics. People assume you have to pick a side. I wouldn't call myself a liberal, though a fair amount of my views side with liberal ideology, at least to some extent.

You said you don't condone abortion "even for me". It's not exactly hidden knowledge that I almost had a kid, I figured you misread a post of mine. I misread your post obviously, and I apologize. Thank you for your sympathy.

I never knew you almost had a kid. I never asked but you never mentioned it to me. And I hate politics because I suck at taking sides. I admit I'm not the hardest pro-life person and may be pro-choice by December but for now I don't like it. All the pro-choicers I've met have been anti-religious, judgemental, liberal extremists, hateful, scum, and I hate that. You're the only pro-choice person I've met who isn't like that. But it seems all non-straight, non-cis people are the same. Liberal, pro-choice, atheist, flamboyant, and questions every single societal tradition. Besides, my faith should keep me from being okay with abortion.

[Karkat]

I never knew you almost had a kid. I never asked but you never mentioned it to me. And I hate politics because I suck at taking sides. I admit I'm not the hardest pro-life person and may be pro-choice by December but for now I don't like it. All the pro-choicers I've met have been anti-religious, judgemental, liberal extremists, hateful, scum, and I hate that. You're the only pro-choice person I've met who isn't like that. But it seems all non-straight, non-cis people are the same. Liberal, pro-choice, atheist, flamboyant, and questions every single societal tradition. Besides, my faith should keep me from being okay with abortion.

Eh, it's not something I go around bragging about, but I don't hide it either.

I understand. :) In all honesty, I'm the same way, though I doubt I'll take the pro-life stance again. I was pro-life until it was really explained to me what pro-choice was. I don't like the idea of abortion either, for the most part, and I'm not super-educated on it either.

And most of the pro-lifers I've met will scream "ABORTION IS MURDER" in your ear when the subject arises. It's nice to see someone who doesn't.

Well you can consider me different on two accounts. :P I'm guilty as charged on being pro-choice, and being fairly flamboyant, but I'm a theist (I mean, I'm agnostic, but still a theist. I'm spiritual, sort of. I don't align with religion.), and I don't necessarily have a problem with tradition so long as it's not impeding progress or hurting anyone. I find anti-theist and anti-tradition attitudes kind of irritating. Like anarchy.

And they find my peaceful ideals equally as irritating, and I don't give a shit. :P

[Lovelife090994]

Eh, it's not something I go around bragging about, but I don't hide it either.

I understand. :) In all honesty, I'm the same way, though I doubt I'll take the pro-life stance again. I was pro-life until it was really explained to me what pro-choice was. I don't like the idea of abortion either, for the most part, and I'm not super-educated on it either.

And most of the pro-lifers I've met will scream "ABORTION IS MURDER" in your ear when the subject arises. It's nice to see someone who doesn't.

Well you can consider me different on two accounts. :P I'm guilty as charged on being pro-choice, and being fairly flamboyant, but I'm a theist (I mean, I'm agnostic, but still a theist. I'm spiritual, sort of. I don't align with religion.), and I don't necessarily have a problem with tradition so long as it's not impeding progress or hurting anyone. I find anti-theist and anti-tradition attitudes kind of irritating. Like anarchy.

And they find my peaceful ideals equally as irritating, and I don't give a shit. :P

Why would anyone hate peaceful ideas? And yes, you certainly are unique. You're like Fire Emblem's Sully. Strong, brave, beautiful, unique, and you bridge the gender gap but you know what you are and care. Back to subject.. No I don't scream abortion is murder but it seems bit a hair's breadth away from it. I've seen an abortion I've been educated on it a little, it doesn't sit well with me. I would not stop a woman from having one but I'd ask her to respect my beliefs on it as I respect her right to it.

[Karkat]

Why would anyone hate peaceful ideas? And yes, you certainly are unique. You're like Fire Emblem's Sully. Strong, brave, beautiful, unique, and you bridge the gender gap but you know what you are and care. Back to subject.. No I don't scream abortion is murder but it seems bit a hair's breadth away from it. I've seen an abortion I've been educated on it a little, it doesn't sit well with me. I would not stop a woman from having one but I'd ask her to respect my beliefs on it as I respect her right to it.

It's not so much that as it is they are not at peace with the ideas. It's hard to explain.

Though I wouldn't exactly call anarchy "peaceful" either...

Hah, thanks. :)

Eh, you've definitely seemed calmer about it than most are.

And that's leaps and bounds more peaceful and respectful than what most pro-lifers would do.

[Lovelife090994]

It's not so much that as it is they are not at peace with the ideas. It's hard to explain.

Though I wouldn't exactly call anarchy "peaceful" either...

Hah, thanks. :)

Eh, you've definitely seemed calmer about it than most are.

And that's leaps and bounds more peaceful and respectful than what most pro-lifers would do.

That's a bit sad.. :( I say let women have abortions, but don't make me okay with it either. I am the same way for many things. Have it, but don't make me like it. Oh well.

[Karkat]

That's a bit sad.. :( I say let women have abortions, but don't make me okay with it either. I am the same way for many things. Have it, but don't make me like it. Oh well.

Better than total opposition. :) I personally don't get the shoving of ideals down people's throats anyways.

[Pulp501]

A friend on facebook quoted her as saying people need to stop thinking feminism is anti men. I agree that it's true, but what she should be saying is feminist themselves need to stop being anti men, because that's what a lot of feminists are, and that's not what feminists are suppose to be. It's nice to see someone actually talking about male issues though. The word feminism misleads a lot of people. I do support gender equality, but I wouldn't call myself a feminist because the feminist movement only seems to care about women. Even when it's not dragging men down, it's trying to push women above them. Emma Watson is doing good trying to correct that. I also question how far equality should go. Are we trying to eliminate gender roles completely? Should each gender have rights others don't, like the whole children thing?

[Babs]

I'm just gonna throw this out there, I think people exaggerate the "man hating" aspect of feminism just a teensy bit. There aren't as many misandrists in feminism as many people may think.