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PinkFloyd
September 15th, 2014, 11:15 PM
WASHINGTON — Militants for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria have traveled to Mexico and are just miles from the United States. They plan to cross over the porous border and will “imminently” launch car bomb attacks. And the threat is so real that federal law enforcement officers have been placed at a heightened state of alert, and an American military base near the border has increased its security.

As the Obama administration and the American public have focused their attention on ISIS in recent weeks, conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those that ISIS and other extremists from Syria are planning to enter the country illegally from Mexico. But the Homeland Security Department, the F.B.I. and lawmakers who represent areas near the border say there is no truth to the warnings.

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“There is no credible intelligence to suggest that there is an active plot by ISIL to attempt to cross the southern border,” Homeland Security officials said in a written statement, using an alternative acronym for the group.

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“There’s a longstanding history in this country of projecting whatever fears we have onto the border,” said Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas. Credit Rod Lamkey/Getty Images
Democrats say opponents of President Obama are simply playing on concerns about terrorism as part of their attempt to portray Mr. Obama as having failed to secure the border against illegal immigration.

“There’s a longstanding history in this country of projecting whatever fears we have onto the border,” said Representative Beto O’Rourke, Democrat of Texas, who represents El Paso and other areas near the border. “In the absence of understanding the border, they insert their fears. Before it was Iran and Al Qaeda. Now it’s ISIS. They just reach the conclusion that invasion is imminent, and it never is.”

At a congressional hearing last week, Representative Jeff Duncan, Republican of South Carolina, pushed back strongly against the testimony of Homeland Security Department officials and Mr. O’Rourke, saying they were ignoring a gathering threat.

“Wake up, America,” Mr. Duncan said before storming out of the hearing. “With a porous southern border, we have no idea who’s in our country.”

But counterterrorism officials say they are far more concerned that an ISIS militant will enter the United States the same way millions of people do each year: legally, on a commercial flight. Their efforts have focused on the more than 2,000 Europeans and 100 Americans who have traveled to Syria to fight alongside extremist groups, nearly all of them crossing over its unprotected borders. Without markings in their passports to show that they traveled to Syria, American border authorities have few ways of determining where they were and stopping them from entering the country.

Warnings about the possibility of terrorists entering the United States from Mexico have been sounded in the past. During the 2012 presidential campaign both Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, the Republican nominee, said Islamic extremists working with countries in Latin America, including Mexico, posed a significant threat to the United States.

“We know that Hamas and Hezbollah are working in Mexico, as well as Iran, with their ploy to come into the United States,” Mr. Perry, the governor of Texas, said at a Republican debate in 2011. “So the idea that we need to have border security with the United States and Mexico is paramount to the entire Western Hemisphere.”

Mr. Perry repeated his concerns in a speech last month at the Heritage Foundation in Washington in which he said that because the border was not secure, “individuals from ISIS or other terrorist states could be” crossing into the United States. “I think it’s a very real possibility that they may have already used that,” he said.

In late August, the conservative group Judicial Watch posted an article on its website about how ISIS was operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juárez and planning car bomb attacks.

“High-level federal law enforcement, intelligence and other sources have confirmed to Judicial Watch that a warning bulletin for an imminent terrorist attack on the border has been issued,” the report said. “Agents across a number of Homeland Security, Justice and Defense agencies have all been placed on alert and instructed to aggressively work all possible leads and sources concerning this imminent terrorist threat.”

Judicial Watch said intelligence officials had “picked up radio talk and chatter indicating that the terrorist groups are going to ‘carry out an attack on the border.’ “ It quoted a “high-level source” saying that the attack was “coming very soon.”

Mr. O’Rourke said that immediately after that report was posted he called the F.B.I. and Homeland Security Department. They told him they had no intelligence about such an attack. Mr. O’Rourke said he spent the rest of his day arguing with members of the news media in Texas about why the Judicial Watch report was not a story. He largely failed to convince them, and the article was widely reported.

Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, said the Obama administration had a history of looking the other way on national security threats, particularly ones involving the border.

“President Obama or his administration should acknowledge this dire threat on the border, whatever its political ramifications are for the debate on immigration,” Mr. Fitton said.

Mr. Fitton said that the idea of ISIS coming across the border “goes against the narrative that the border is secure” and that Americans “don’t need to worry about illegal immigration.”

On Fox News on Monday, a county sheriff in Texas said he had received reports that Qurans and Muslim clothing had been found on smuggling routes. He said that was evidence that Muslims had been smuggled into the United States.

“If they show their ugly head in our area, we’ll send them to hell,” said the sheriff, Gary Painter, of Midland County. “I would like for them to hit them so hard and so often that every time they hear a propeller on a plane or a jet aircraft engine that they urinate down both legs. When you do that, then you’ve accomplished a lot.”

Fox News itself has covered the threats in different ways. After senior administration officials testified at a Senate hearing last week about ISIS, an article on FoxNews.com about the testimony ran under the headline “D.H.S. Confirms ISIS Planning Infiltration of U.S. Southern Border.” An article on Fox News Latino about the same hearing had the headline: “ISIS Terrorists Not Sneaking Over U.S. Southern Border With Mexico, D.H.S. Officials Tell Congress.”

Can I just reflect a bit on this? They plan to attack the United States THROUGH TEXAS. This isn't your average stupid. This is advanced stupid. ISIS attacking the US through Texas is equivalent to trying to rob a bank with a Nerf gun.

Blood
September 15th, 2014, 11:47 PM
Can I just reflect a bit on this? They plan to attack the United States THROUGH TEXAS. This isn't your average stupid. This is advanced stupid. ISIS attacking the US through Texas is equivalent to trying to rob a bank with a Nerf gun.

Don't underestimate terrorists - the United States seems to think that they're invincible, and that's not the truth. We are too arrogant as a nation.

Harry Smith
September 16th, 2014, 12:50 AM
why do I have a feeling this has been orchestrated by conservatives in the south who want to A) stop immigration reform B) Militarize the Mexican border

Vlerchan
September 16th, 2014, 03:06 AM
It seems more like conservatives believe there's a threat. Intelligence-gatherers, the FBI and Homeland Security, don't have evidence to support claims of a threat.

But let's shoot the brown people who want across the border just in case?

Gamma Male
September 18th, 2014, 02:16 AM
Hey, I'm all for letting them attack Texas, just let me get out first and then it's all yours terrorists! :lol:

CharlieHorse
September 18th, 2014, 02:29 AM
i don't think they will stand much of a chance. The war on terror is full of politics that prevents any real progress.
If they directly attack the US like an army, then we'll declare a full out war and the politics and questioning morals will be over, and allow the tanks to roll in.

Lovelife090994
September 18th, 2014, 03:39 AM
People better wake up. I takes only one terrorist to set off bombs. With our southern border unsecure this could be a reality. Already violent gangs get in, terrorists would blend in and no one would know. This isn't about liberals vs conservatives this is about war and the innocents. Wake up America and wake up ignorant and arrogant people!

Hey, I'm all for letting them attack Texas, just let me get out first and then it's all yours terrorists! :lol:

Hello? Earth coming in. Do you hear yourself? You want terrorists to attack? I'm in Houston! They'd hit here first!

Gamma Male
September 18th, 2014, 06:24 AM
Hello? Earth coming in. Do you hear yourself? You want terrorists to attack? I'm in Houston! They'd hit here first!

It was a joke. I thought that was obvious.

TheN3rdyOutcast
September 18th, 2014, 06:38 AM
Perhaps it's time we dish out some justice with an atomic bomb...

No, but seriously, this needs to stop somehow.

thatcountrykid
September 19th, 2014, 10:55 PM
They didn't learn from Japan in ww2. If it happens witch it may, I'll be ready.

Exocet
September 20th, 2014, 09:26 AM
They didn't learn from Japan in ww2. If it happens witch it may, I'll be ready.

Sorry,but ready for .... ?

Harry Smith
September 20th, 2014, 09:46 AM
Love how quickly Americans reach for the atomic bomb. I'm more concerned that some people aren't smart enough to understand that ISIS isn't a nation state

Did you lot fall asleep in science class?

thatcountrykid
September 20th, 2014, 10:20 AM
Sorry,but ready for .... ?

Attacks. Colorado would actually be a main target because of all the military installations.

Love how quickly Americans reach for the atomic bomb. I'm more concerned that some people aren't smart enough to understand that ISIS isn't a nation state

Did you lot fall asleep in science class?

I'm pretty sure most of us understand that. They may as well be a nation because they are fighting like a shitty national army and Iraq has lost virtually all control in the regions taken over.

Harry Smith
September 20th, 2014, 11:23 AM
I'm pretty sure most of us understand that. They may as well be a nation because they are fighting like a shitty national army and Iraq has lost virtually all control in the regions taken over.

Ok so if you understand it where would you launch these nuclear attacks?

CosmicNoodle
September 20th, 2014, 11:44 AM
Don't underestimate terrorists - the United States seems to think that they're invincible, and that's not the truth. We are too arrogant as a nation.

You are, not to offend but america is an incerdivally arrogant country, they think they own the world and can do anything, when in fact they are a bumbeling mess. In this case it would really help for the government, and some of the people, to pull there heads out of there ases and look at the real world

thatcountrykid
September 20th, 2014, 12:02 PM
Ok so if you understand it where would you launch these nuclear attacks?

Tehran did I sy anything about nukes