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BornActor
March 20th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Recently, it was declared that animal rights activists are the United States #1 terrorist threat. For more information see the movie, "Your Mommy Kills Animals."
What do you think of this? Do you agree or disagree? Why?

My opinion:

I think there are a ton of more dangerous organizations out there than animal rights activists. I completely disagree. I disagree because Al Khadi and the Muslim brotherhood seem to be a bigger threat to homeland security. I mean there's little to no memorials for anything animal rights activists have done. However, I can see why they are a terrorist threat. I just don't think they should be the number 1 terrorist threat.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 20th, 2008, 02:10 PM
I don't think they are in the least of a threat what so ever. Maybe its because I'm completely in favor of them, I'm a vegetarian, and I am completely against animal cruelty, but who the hell says they're a terrorist threat? As long as they're not going around killing people for animals I'd say there is no threat at all. I hearby deam whoever declared Animal Rights Activists the #1 terrorist threat, utterly and undeniably, stupid. I can at the sametime have a sense of justification towards the violence, but not completely. People slaughter animals, and I personally think animals should be at equal to humans, they're living breathing creatures, they don't deserve to be killed, if you could justify killing animals, I could justify killing humans, its murder from either side.

I dont at all support the animal rights activists acts of violence, but I do understand them. As far as calling it terrorism, I say thats completely untrue. I do completely support actions other than violence to end animal cruelty, boycotts, and whatnot.

But, in short, I completely disagree with the statement.

0=
March 20th, 2008, 07:59 PM
The media and United States government are the greatest terrorist threat. Fear is the weapon they wield to manipulate the American public.

*Dissident*
March 21st, 2008, 01:01 AM
Nike. Coca Cola. Microsoft. Apple. Loui Veton. Gucci. Exxon Mobil. Haliburton. Need I go on?

A.J.
March 23rd, 2008, 12:17 AM
I hate those damn PETA people, a bunch of zoophiliacs with too much damn time on their hands.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 24th, 2008, 11:49 PM
I hate those damn PETA people, a bunch of zoophiliacs with too much damn time on their hands.


Pardon? (Proud member of Peta)
Human's are living breathing creatures as are animals, so say, one day an animal species just advanced and started slaughtering humans. Everyone would be "OH NO!! THATS HORRIBLE!!"
What about the animals then? Its perfectly fine to kill them though, because they can't speak, they can't express their horror. But its there. Peta is there to save the animals, look at it from both sides. The army is the Peta of the human race. See how fast someone would jump down my throat if I said that about the army.

Hauptmann Kauffman
March 25th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Animals and Humans are not equal. For hundreds of years humans were eaten by animals, until we learned enough to rise to the top of the food chain. If the animals are so horrified, then let them fight back, IDC. Whatever you asy, Im going to continue to eat my meat and dairy products. Im going to continue wearing my leather, and Im going to smile while I do it.

Whisper
March 25th, 2008, 11:16 AM
i think the word "terrorist" is used a lil to often in America

0=
March 25th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Agreed.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 25th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Animals and Humans are not equal. For hundreds of years humans were eaten by animals, until we learned enough to rise to the top of the food chain. If the animals are so horrified, then let them fight back, IDC. Whatever you asy, Im going to continue to eat my meat and dairy products. Im going to continue wearing my leather, and Im going to smile while I do it.

I don't preach about not eating meat, or not wearing leather, i simply don't do it, but the point I am trying to make is, I perfectly understand killing and eating animals for food and warmth when no other options were to be had back in the ages of cavemen and such. But we have other options now, we have cotton now, we have other things to keep us warm, we have other things we could eat. We have a choice now. I'm not saying to stop eating meat, or stop wearing leather. I'm just saying how I am not going to do it and that I think its cruel. They would eat and kill because there was no other option, and I understand that and everything. Its just some things are just rediculous, fur on the hoods. In my personal opinion, belief in superiority above an animal is like belief in superiority among races. I personally think its the same thing. And I do think its wrong. I think its murder.

Underground_Network
March 25th, 2008, 03:04 PM
I don't exactly agree with PETA's actions, but I hate animal cruelty. (I do think PETA is a bit extreme sometimes...) But anyways.. the number 1 terrorist threat is.. Well "terrorist" threat... It depends on your definition of terrorist. The number 1 threat out there is widespread ignorance.. Ignorance and arrogance will lead to the downfall of the human civilization.. Its guaranteed..

Sugaree
March 25th, 2008, 03:15 PM
I believe it's mainly bio-terrorism that's the #1 threat. Just imagine that in all the major subways and cities that they released something like anthrax

Underground_Network
March 25th, 2008, 03:17 PM
Ebola virus could kill us all.. If only terrorists were smart enough to make an airborne strain of ebola (it supposedly could kill every human on Earth in only a couple of weeks, if an airborne strain was produced)

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 25th, 2008, 03:19 PM
I thought a terrorist threat would be something more along the lines of a concious threat. An intentional threat.

Sugaree
March 25th, 2008, 03:20 PM
No not really. Terrorism is not just killing people by using planes or bombs it also means the unleashing of viruses that can kill and numerous other things such as nukes and quite possibly the second Atomic Bomb

Underground_Network
March 25th, 2008, 03:21 PM
It depends on your definition of terrorist threat.. You could refer to an individual, a group, even an object or "weapon".

Sugaree
March 25th, 2008, 03:22 PM
I agree with Adam. It's all preceived of what you think a terrorist threat is

Prince Jellyfish
March 25th, 2008, 03:40 PM
The Founding Fathers were terrorists.

Underground_Network
March 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Everyone's a terrorist nowadays.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM
I just concider terrorism anything that has an intent on destruction and harm and carries it out.

japanman
March 25th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Anything you do not understand its the same for everyone else

Sugaree
March 25th, 2008, 06:42 PM
The Founding Fathers were terrorists.

Excuse me but who the fuck told you that the Founding Fathers, the people that are responsible for making us a free country and making sure your ass is free, were terrorist?!?!?!?!?!?!

Prince Jellyfish
March 25th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Uhm...Let's see, they committed a terrorist action by drafting the Declaration of Independence. The Boston Tea Party was a terrorist attack. And the Revolutionary war fought by the American Colonies against Britain was the result of what would now be considered terrorism.

Antares
March 25th, 2008, 07:01 PM
Uhm...Let's see, they committed a terrorist action by drafting the Declaration of Independence. The Boston Tea Party was a terrorist attack. And the Revolutionary war fought by the American Colonies against Britain was the result of what would now be considered terrorism.
Umm...number 1. The root of the word "Terrorist" is "Terror". So in essence a "Terrorist" is a person that wages "Terror" on a group. The Founding Fathers did not wage terror. Well...yes you can consider the war that resulted terror but...well...whatever you get what I mean. Yes, I now understand your point but as an American...Terrorism back then was not meant to kill people. It was meant to better them.

Also, LegalBeagle, that post was very rude. Please do not post things like that in the future. Thanks.

Prince Jellyfish
March 25th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Umm...number 1. The root of the word "Terrorist" is "Terror". So in essence a "Terrorist" is a person that wages "Terror" on a group. The Founding Fathers did not wage terror. Well...yes you can consider the war that resulted terror but...well...whatever you get what I mean. Yes, I now understand your point but as an American...Terrorism back then was not meant to kill people. It was meant to better them.

Also, LegalBeagle, that post was very rude. Please do not post things like that in the future. Thanks.

What i'm trying to come across with is that if a group in the middle east did the same thing to us, what would they be called? :(

japanman
March 25th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Uhm...Let's see, they committed a terrorist action by drafting the Declaration of Independence. The Boston Tea Party was a terrorist attack. And the Revolutionary war fought by the American Colonies against Britain was the result of what would now be considered terrorism.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHH lol your a funny one but seriously the declaration of independec terror ism lol sure buddy :rolleyes:

and dude plz stop you have no right to talk about ppl in the middle east or anywhere else.

Antares
March 25th, 2008, 07:22 PM
What i'm trying to come across with is that if a group in the middle east did the same thing to us, what would they be called? :(

If they were our...mother nation? They had complete control over us and taxed us with out representation? They would be exactly what England was. England can't be considered "Terrorists" until...maybe Lexington and Concord. There was not "Terror" until then. So no if it was a country from the middle east they would not be "Terrorists" because up to that point there was not "Terrorism". Also, in that whole conflict with the Colonies and England, we were more of the antagonists which can be considered the "Terrorists". Not England. Like I said before not until Lexington and Concord.


and dude plz stop you have no right to talk about ppl in the middle east or anywhere else.

Also, I dont see why he would not have the right. He is a human like all of us here. Also, considering his location in the US he would probably know more than some of us.

japanman
March 25th, 2008, 07:54 PM
hhhm now that you say that ok sry lol i most of zoned out.

Underground_Network
March 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM
I just concider terrorism anything that has an intent on destruction and ham and carries it out.

I made this quote truthful.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 25th, 2008, 11:36 PM
Excuse me but who the fuck told you that the Founding Fathers, the people that are responsible for making us a free country and making sure your ass is free, were terrorist?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'm sorry, but, the whole pledge of allegiance is a lie.
Liberty and justice for whom?

My uncle has basically been stripped of so many rights for doing nothing. He owns nothing right now. He's been stripped of everything he owns, due to his wife being a liar, allowing her to take all of his worldy posessions with him not being able to say a word for it, justice? I fail to see it.
He cannot do anything about it. If he tries, he gets jail time. If he says a word to her about taking HIS stuff he gets arrested. If he takes any of his stuff out of his own home, he gets arrested. Does this make any sense to you? If so, please, do explain.

Prince Jellyfish
March 26th, 2008, 02:41 PM
If they were our...mother nation? They had complete control over us and taxed us with out representation? They would be exactly what England was. England can't be considered "Terrorists" until...maybe Lexington and Concord. There was not "Terror" until then. So no if it was a country from the middle east they would not be "Terrorists" because up to that point there was not "Terrorism". Also, in that whole conflict with the Colonies and England, we were more of the antagonists which can be considered the "Terrorists". Not England. Like I said before not until Lexington and Concord.




Also, I dont see why he would not have the right. He is a human like all of us here. Also, considering his location in the US he would probably know more than some of us.

No, what I mean is, what if a group in Iraq rebelled against American occupation?

A.J.
March 27th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Pardon? (Proud member of Peta)
Human's are living breathing creatures as are animals, so say, one day an animal species just advanced and started slaughtering humans. Everyone would be "OH NO!! THATS HORRIBLE!!"
What about the animals then? Its perfectly fine to kill them though, because they can't speak, they can't express their horror. But its there. Peta is there to save the animals, look at it from both sides. The army is the Peta of the human race. See how fast someone would jump down my throat if I said that about the army.

Its survival of the fittest. Humans are more dominent because we are smarter. I believe in treating animals kindly but PETA members are riduculous. They care way to much about animals rather than more important issues and need to get lives.

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 27th, 2008, 11:02 PM
It WAS survival of the fittest, at this point and time there are other alternatives to eat other than animals, back in the days of cavemen, it was Necessary to kill to survive, not now though. We could live without that. ... and uhmm are you saying that i have no life?

Antares
March 27th, 2008, 11:26 PM
No, what I mean is, what if a group in Iraq rebelled against American occupation?

but they do rebel it all of the time. but that dosent change anything because if they do something stupid they will get shot. plain and simple.

Prince Jellyfish
March 28th, 2008, 06:41 PM
but they do rebel it all of the time. but that dosent change anything because if they do something stupid they will get shot. plain and simple.

The found father faced the same odds. They had warrants out for their arrest and upon capture they were to be executed. :(

happytimes
April 2nd, 2008, 12:29 AM
that's just stupid. the definition of terrorism is undeclared hostile activity against foreign countries. last time I checked the animal kingdom is not a recognized country by the UN. So killing animals is not an act of terrorism and therefore the United States is not a terrorist threat.