Is it worse for a man to rape a woman than for a woman to rape a man?

[Allbutanillusion]

What do you think. Some say women are incapable of crime, and if they do commit crime, its only because they ( the female perpetrators) are really victims of the alledged patriarchal society.... but I believe that this is just more feminist nonsense!

In a discussion a story arose of a 8 year old boy engaging in sex with a woman and societies hypocritical attitude toward it. Children can have sexual feelings at 8, but whether they can consent to sex at age 8 is an entirely different subject. Sex at age 8 is rape, especially given the fact that the girl involved was significantly older, a teenager. An 8 year old boy doesn't have the maturity to consent to sex. He can't possibly appreciate all the consequences of sex and he certainly shouldn't be a victim to a disturbed teenager or adult.

Societies attitude toward boys being raped or sexually abused by women(pedophiles) is seen as a notch in their tiny, child-like belts. The girl in experience was teenager , so the man seemed to think that this was a testament to their own irresistibility: at eight years old, their sex appeal was so overwhelming, so potent, that teenage girl were compelled to have sex with them. ( yeah right) The idea that this was rape—and it was—never crossed their minds. Why? Because the same poisonous system that tells women they are rape-able tells men that they are not.

What if we have been normalizing male rape victims’ symptoms for centuries?Can you imagine being sexually abused and then growing up being told that this is a good thing? That your sexual potency has been enhanced? That rape was a “head-start” into the wonderful world of sex? But that exactly is what society treats the rape of boys as.. as some sort of joke not to be taken seriously, to be sweep under the carpet.., along with any other type of abuse men may suffer particularly at the hands of a female.

To reiterate....I think the main thing is that a lot of people believe that men cannot be raped by women. Either society believes it's not physically possible for a female to rape a male (many think if a man gets an erection it means he wanted/wants to have sex, with which from the feedback gotten from men, I can say isn't true)

[Blood]

Rape is rape, regardless of the genders involved.

It's just as bad for a man to be raped as it is for a woman to be raped. Society likes to portray men as "oh so big and oh so tough and untouchable protecters" of all the "weak, helpless" females. Both of those stereotypes are wrong. Men and women can be raped and it's equally as wrong in both cases.

I wish people would start realizing that men ARE being raped, and little to nothing is being done about it because of the social stigma that men can't be raped.

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

While the emotional and mental damage is equally high in both genders of victims, as well as the risk of catching an STD, I'd like to point out that if a woman gets raped, they have to endure pregnancy and abortion, or if they don't believe in it, they have to bear a child that they didn't consent on, so for that reason, it's just a LITTLE bit worse for man on woman than vice versa.

I'ts not a matter of sexism, just simple biology.

[StoppingTime]

Abuse :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise.


Given the fact that this is a very sensitive (and possibly triggering) subject, please be respectful to other posters, and if you have any personal attacks against them, keep them to yourselves or this thread will not remain open.

[Lovelife090994]

Rape is rape. I hate how society acts like women can't be rapists and how even a man complimenting a girl is a pedophile. Stereotypes need to die.

[thatgothgirluknow]

it is possible and i think its just as bad either way its still rape and its still mentally and possibley scaring

[ImCoolBeans]

Rape is rape, regardless of the genders involved.

It's just as bad for a man to be raped as it is for a woman to be raped. Society likes to portray men as "oh so big and oh so tough and untouchable protecters" of all the "weak, helpless" females. Both of those stereotypes are wrong. Men and women can be raped and it's equally as wrong in both cases.

I wish people would start realizing that men ARE being raped, and little to nothing is being done about it because of the social stigma that men can't be raped.

I totally agree with Jess. Rape is rape, it doesn't matter what sex the victim is or who he/she was raped by. Male rape victims are just now starting to be taken seriously in society, and they are still a long ways away from being fully recognized as legitimate.

[Remora]

Rape is rape, regardless of the genders involved.

It's just as bad for a man to be raped as it is for a woman to be raped. Society likes to portray men as "oh so big and oh so tough and untouchable protecters" of all the "weak, helpless" females. Both of those stereotypes are wrong. Men and women can be raped and it's equally as wrong in both cases.

I wish people would start realizing that men ARE being raped, and little to nothing is being done about it because of the social stigma that men can't be raped.


I completely agree with Jess on this one, but i just wanna point out a small detail; rape usually isn't protected. Males don't get pregnant. Females do, so it might have more concequences for them on the long run.

[Hideous]

Rape is rape, regardless of the genders involved.

It's just as bad for a man to be raped as it is for a woman to be raped. Society likes to portray men as "oh so big and oh so tough and untouchable protecters" of all the "weak, helpless" females. Both of those stereotypes are wrong. Men and women can be raped and it's equally as wrong in both cases.

I wish people would start realizing that men ARE being raped, and little to nothing is being done about it because of the social stigma that men can't be raped.

I definitely agree!!

[PinkFloyd]

Rape will always be rape. In my eyes, that's how it should always be viewed.

[Remora]

I just want to point out how many quote notifications Blood is going to get.

And i'd like to take in account that the male's sexual organ shouldn't be damaged (i think) in rape, whereas females sometimes become infertile after rape.

[Gamma Male]

What do you think. Some say women are incapable of crime, and if they do commit crime, its only because they ( the female perpetrators) are really victims of the alledged patriarchal society.... but I believe that this is just more feminist nonsense!
I'm like 99% certain you're just making this up. Seriously. If you could provide a link to a feminist stating that they think women are incapable of committing crime I'd love to see it. And even if some "feminist" out there did say something along those lines, their views do not represent the views of mainstream feminism or feminist ideology. Feminists seeks equality for both sexes. They call themselves "feminists" because in the vast majority of cultures women are typically more oppressed as a gender. While there are certainly many examples in history of men somehow being oppressed because of their gender, it usually has more to do with being forced to conform to "macho" stereotypes and less with being limited sexually, having lower pay, having less power and representation in politics, etc.


In a discussion a story arose of a 8 year old boy engaging in sex with a woman and societies hypocritical attitude toward it. Children can have sexual feelings at 8, but whether they can consent to sex at age 8 is an entirely different subject. Sex at age 8 is rape, especially given the fact that the girl involved was significantly older, a teenager. An 8 year old boy doesn't have the maturity to consent to sex. He can't possibly appreciate all the consequences of sex and he certainly shouldn't be a victim to a disturbed teenager or adult.

Societies attitude toward boys being raped or sexually abused by women(pedophiles) is as a notch in their tiny, child-like belts. The girls in experiences were teenager , so the men seemed to think that this was a testament to their own irresistibility: at eight years old, their sex appeal was so overwhelming, so potent, that teenage girls were compelled to have sex with them. ( yeah right) The idea that this was rape—and it was—never crossed their minds. Why? Because the same poisonous system that tells women they are rape-able tells men that they are not.

What if we have been normalizing male rape victims’ symptoms for centuries?Can you imagine being sexually abused and then growing up being told that this is a good thing? That your sexual potency has been enhanced? That rape was a “head-start” into the wonderful world of sex? But that exactly is what society treats the rape of boys as.. as some sort of joke not to be taken seriously, to be sweep under the carpet.., along with any other type of abuse men may suffer particularly at the hands of a female.

To reiterate....I think the main thing is that a lot of people believe that men cannot be raped by women. Either society believes it's not physically possible for a female to rape a male (many think if a man gets an erection it means he wanted/wants to have sex, with which from the feedback gotten from men, I can say isn't true)

You'll find that the vast majority of self proclaimed feminists support abolishing unnecessary stereotypes for both genders. This includes the myth that men cannot be raped or that male rape and female pedophilia are somehow less harmful.

[Blood]

I'd just like to point out that yes, while a woman can become pregnant from a rape, there are many, many contraceptive methods nowadays to prevent that from happening. So the argument that it's worse for women because they can get pregnant is a little flawed in my opinion. And don't forget that men can (and often times, do) get raped by other men, which can result in anal tearing and possibly anal prolapse. There's not really any method to keep that from happening, is there?

[Gamma Male]

And don't forget that men can (and often times, do) get raped by other men, which can result in anal tearing and possibly anal prolapse. There's not really any method to keep that from happening, is there?

Lube?:P

[jayjay's toocool]

Both are obviously wrong to society also going with societal rules and beliefs yes it's worse for a guy to rape a girl

[Blood]

Lube?:P

Maybe I'm just underestimating the care rapists have towards their victims? :P

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

I completely agree with Jess on this one, but i just wanna point out a small detail; rape usually isn't protected. Males don't get pregnant. Females do, so it might have more concequences for them on the long run.
Exactly.

[CosmicNoodle]

Rape is rape, regardless of the genders involved.

It's just as bad for a man to be raped as it is for a woman to be raped. Society likes to portray men as "oh so big and oh so tough and untouchable protecters" of all the "weak, helpless" females. Both of those stereotypes are wrong. Men and women can be raped and it's equally as wrong in both cases.

I wish people would start realizing that men ARE being raped, and little to nothing is being done about it because of the social stigma that men can't be raped.

Exactly, I can't stand the stigma and ignorancew around this topic,

[Babs]

That is completely ridiculous. Rape is rape. There is no better or worse rape.

[gothy]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetration

[Gamma Male]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetration

What? No. Rape doesn't have to involve penetration. It's any nonconsensual sexual act, period.

[Typhlosion]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetrationAny sexual action that a woman does, against a man's will, is not rape, just normal for you?

[Blood]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetration

This, right here, is one of the main reasons the majority of male rape victims don't report that they've been raped. Because society has taught people that men simply can't be raped.

Definition Of Rape: Sexual intercourse initiated against one or more individuals without the consent of those individuals.

So, if a guy is forced to have sex against his will by a woman, it's somehow not rape?

[Lovelife090994]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetration

That's a long lie led by society and angry feminists to have the world think only men can be perverted and rapists. A man can be raped just as easily without penetration. A woman can drug a young slim guy and overpower him, get pregnant, report instead that she was raped, get the man in jail, and then get praised after aborting the baby. A woman can simply cry rape at regret over sex and people will believe the man raped her even if he didn't and she did instead.

[Gamma Male]

That's a long lie led by society and angry feminists

You'll find that the vast majority of self proclaimed feminists do not support the notion that males can't be raped.

[NeuroTiger]

Sexual abuse is sexual abuse...as long as there is so consent irrespective of gender.

[gothy]

Any sexual action that a woman does, against a man's will, is not rape, just normal for you?

No its sexual assault

This, right here, is one of the main reasons the majority of male rape victims don't report that they've been raped. Because society has taught people that men simply can't be raped.

Definition Of Rape: Sexual intercourse initiated against one or more individuals without the consent of those individuals.

So, if a guy is forced to have sex against his will by a woman, it's somehow not rape?

Its sexual assault. Thats what ive been taught in law class

That's a long lie led by society and angry feminists to have the world think only men can be perverted and rapists. A man can be raped just as easily without penetration. A woman can drug a young slim guy and overpower him, get pregnant, report instead that she was raped, get the man in jail, and then get praised after aborting the baby. A woman can simply cry rape at regret over sex and people will believe the man raped her even if he didn't and she did instead.

Reason why ill never have sex.

Use the 'multiquote' function for responding to multiple posts and do not multi-post. ~Typhlosion

[kristennn]

I think any form of rape is terrible

[Vlerchan]

gothy is not incorrect. In Ireland it's the same. Here's our legal definition of rape:

[Criminal Law (Rape) Act, 1981 - Emphasis Added]

—(1) A man] commits rape if—

(a) he has unlawful sexual intercourse with a woman who at the time of the intercourse does not consent to it, and

(b) at that time he knows that she does not consent to the intercourse or he is reckless as to whether she does or does not consent to it,

and references to rape in this Act and any other enactment shall be construed accordingly.

(2) It is hereby declared that if at a trial for a rape offence the jury has to consider whether a man believed that a woman was consenting to sexual intercourse, the presence or absence of reasonable grounds for such a belief is a matter to which the jury is to have regard, in conjunction with any other relevant matters, in considering whether he so believed.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1981/en/act/pub/0010/sec0002.html#sec2

There was an amendment to the act in 1990 does is expand the definition of rape beyond just intercourse and allows for woman to be prosecuted for raping other woman. It also - and this is just an indication of how backwards Ireland is - abolishes the law which states that husbands cannot rape their wives. It does not anywhere state that men can be raped. edit: I just realised it allows for male-on-male sexual assault - though, fun fact, even consensual same-sex sexual activities were illegal when this law was written.

[Criminal Law (Rape) (Amendment) Act, 1990 - Emphasis Added]

.—(1) In this Act “rape under section 4 ” means a sexual assault that includes—

(a) penetration (however slight) of the anus or mouth by the penis, or

(b) penetration (however slight) of the vagina by any object held or manipulated by another person.

(2) A person guilty of rape under section 4 shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.

(3) Rape under section 4 shall be a felony.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0032/sec0004.html#sec4

In Ireland men can only be sexually assualted:

[Criminal Law (Rape) (Amendment) Act, 1990 - Emphasis Added]

2.—(1) The offence of indecent assault upon any male person and the offence of indecent assault upon any female person shall be known as sexual assault.

(2) A person guilty of sexual assault shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years.

(3) Sexual assault shall be a felony.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0032/sec0002.html

That's not to say I agree with it - I believe it's stupid - but that's how it is.

[xXoblivionXx]

And i'd like to take in account that the male's sexual organ shouldn't be damaged (i think) in rape, whereas females sometimes become infertile after rape.

I think it is possible for a male's parts to get damaged.. not 100% sure but I think the scrotum can tear.

rape is horrible either way, equally horrible. I hate the stigma when it comes to men being raped. I watched this and it really made me hate the stigma 10 times more http://www.upworthy.com/a-guy-talks-about-rape-from-a-mans-perspective-and-its-not-what-you-think-either

[Babs]

Women can't rape men. Rape =penetration

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
Rape is forcing sex unto someone who hasn't given consent. That's it. There isn't some "penetration" technicality.

[gothy]

Men shouldn't be sentenced longer for rape than women are for sexual assault.


The legal system is sexist and fucked up .

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
Rape is forcing sex unto someone who hasn't given consent. That's it. There isn't some "penetration" technicality.

Yes but rarely if ever are women charged with rape. Unless the act was committed against a minor.

Females will otherwise state the man raped them and the victim will be locked up.

Please do not double post. ~Typhlosion

[Babs]

Yes but rarely if ever are women charged with rape. Unless the act was committed against a minor.

Females will otherwise state the man raped them and the victim will be locked up.

Whether or not women are charged is irrelevant as to whether or not it's rape. If they force sex onto a man who doesn't consent, it's rape.

[Lovelife090994]

Whether or not women are charged is irrelevant as to whether or not it's rape. If they force sex onto a man who doesn't consent, it's rape.

But he may be right. How often do you hear of women going to jail for rape? Not often if ever. It's as if male rape isn't reported.

[Babs]

But he may be right. How often do you hear of women going to jail for rape? Not often if ever. It's as if male rape isn't reported.

It does often go unreported, but it doesn't mean its not rape.

[Lovelife090994]

It does often go unreported, but it doesn't mean its not rape.

It does mean it is rape but it rarely happens. I hate how women can cry rape when nothing happened and the guy loses his job, kids, sanity, freedom, trust.

[Babs]

It does mean it is rape but it rarely happens. I hate how women can cry rape when nothing happened and the guy loses his job, kids, sanity, freedom, trust.

A man being falsely accused of rape is a very rare situation, it happens and it's wrong, but it's rare and I don't see how it's relevant to the conversation.
Literally all I said was that men CAN be raped and that it does often go unreported, my point being that people say that men can't be raped so much that men who are start to believe it, and therefore never get justice.

[Lovelife090994]

A man being falsely accused of rape is a very rare situation, it happens and it's wrong, but it's rare and I don't see how it's relevant to the conversation.
Literally all I said was that men CAN be raped and that it does often go unreported, my point being that people say that men can't be raped so much that men who are start to believe it, and therefore never get justice.

No, it's not rare. It happens all the time. Yes some men are rapists, but some women are rapists and liars too.

[Babs]

No, it's not rare. It happens all the time. Yes some men are rapists, but some women are rapists and liars too.

It doesn't happen as often as you think it does.
And yes, I agree with you. Some women are rapists. Yet I still don't see how men being falsely accused of rape is relevant to me saying men can be raped.

[Dark Unicorn]

I completely agree with you.I feel like everything is always about girls.Selfharm:girls.Abuse:girls.Heck even disease:girls.I get that that's probably because these things seem to happen to girls more(or perhaps girls just come foward more) but it seems as though society is saying the boys that have these things happen to them,meh,they don't really matter.That's a load of crap if you ask me.How's that equality if we treat boys like their emotions mean less than girls'.

[Lovelife090994]

It doesn't happen as often as you think it does.
And yes, I agree with you. Some women are rapists. Yet I still don't see how men being falsely accused of rape is relevant to me saying men can be raped.

Because men being falsely accused means no one believes the accusations are false so they just encourage men can't be raped.

[Vlerchan]

No, it's not rare. It happens all the time.
Studies have found that police classify between 1.5 and 8% of rape accusations as unfounded, unproven or false, however researchers say those determinations are often dubious. The "conventional scholarly wisdom," according to American law professor Michelle J. Anderson, is that two percent of rape complaints made to the police are false. The United States Justice Department agrees, saying false accusations "are estimated to occur at the low rate of two percent -- similar to the rate of false accusations for other violent crimes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_rape_accusations

Yes, all the time, because woman are just out to get men.

It's no wonder this happens:

[P. 1] The article argues that many rape complainants must still battle to gain credibility in the eyes of some police investigative officers, and that stereotypically based judgements continue to impact negatively on police perceptions and decision making. The overall aim of the article is to prompt critical, constructive evaluation of police culture and practice in order to enhance the quality of police responses to victims of sexual violence and abuse.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/4925HomeComputer/Rape%20myths/Police.pdf

[Babs]

E unto men.Because men being falsely accused means no one believes the accusations are false so they just encourage men can't be raped.

So, if I understand correctly, what you're saying is to encourage the idea that mean can't be raped, they believe every false accusation...? What?
Like Vlerchan posted, it doesn't happen often. There isn't some scheme women are planning to make men look bad by accusing them of crimes they didn't commit, and saying the same crimes cannot be done unto men.

[Ben_Frost]

It's equally wrong, many may think men aren't affected whatsoever by sexual abuse and therefore don't think that is rape. One of my best friends is a boy who was abused sexually by his sitter, and it was non consensual and it did have an impact in his life. It's sexist to not think it's equally wrong!

[britishboy]

This thread is actually disgusting! It's equally wrong!