U.S. Launches Humanitarian and Military Operation In Iraq

[thatcountrykid]

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/165729-report-u-s-launches-humanitarian-military-operation-iraq-response-growing-isis-threat/

The United states is intervening in Iraq at a humanitarian level only however military aircraft are on hand for possible airstikes if a threat is immediate on the us consulate.

AIR STRIKES ARE AUTHORIZED

President obama has authorized airstikes by US forces if thread is made to our personel or our allies.


-merged double post, and edited. -Emerald Dream.

[Southside]

All that money spent modernizing the Iraqi Army and they cant even fight some guys riding around on Toyota pickup trucks with AK's and RPGS, what a waste.

[Left Now]

All that money spent modernizing the Iraqi Army and they cant even fight some guys riding around on Toyota pickup trucks with AK's and RPGS, what a waste.

Actually,they are not doing bad recently.Their army has begun to start full operations itself,and it shows that the things are getting better.

[Southside]

Actually,they are not doing bad recently.Their army has begun to start full operations itself,and it shows that the things are getting better.

If they aren't "doing so bad" why are minorities trapped up in the mountains without basic human necessities?

[Left Now]

If they aren't "doing so bad" why are minorities trapped up in the mountains without basic human necessities?

Which minorities?Sunnis or Assyrians and Christians?

[CosmicNoodle]

See, I told you they woulkd randomly blow shit up without thinking that perhaps they are making the situation worse.

[Harry Smith]

So this makes it what the 7th Middle Eastern country that Obama is going to bomb? Progressive my arse

[Exocet]

Well,if iraqi soldiers were courageous,Mosul,Kirkuk etc.. won't be under ISIS and the us air force didn't have to strikes again Iraq..
When ISIS arrived in Mosul,they captured a lot of helmets,bulletproof vest,tanks (M1A1),a lot of Humvees 155mm artillery,Mraps...
Americans will be happy when they'll know that their money to buy military equipments for Iraqi army are in Isis's hands...

@Broken Pen,he was talking about the Yazidis,Christians,Kurds.. (I think.)

[Left Now]

Well,if iraqi soldiers were courageous,Mosul,Kirkuk etc.. won't be under ISIS and the us air force didn't have to strikes again Iraq..
When ISIS arrived in Mosul,they captured a lot of helmets,bulletproof vest,tanks (M1A1),a lot of Humvees 155mm artillery,Mraps...
Americans will be happy when they'll know that their money to buy military equipments for Iraqi army are in Isis's hands...

@Broken Pen,he was talking about the Yazidis,Christians,Kurds.. (I think.)

Assyrians and Yazidis,yes.Some of them have fled to Kurdistan of Iraq but still those who are remaining in Iraq are threatened.Assyrians of Iran have asked the government to help Iraqi Assyrians and other Christians too in anyway possible.

If only ISIL could threaten borders of Iran in a serious stage,then maybe IRGC and IRIA would get involved in conflicts too;although Quds branch of IRGC is already involved as I know,helping Iraqi Army and armed forces through military ways and strategic advices.

[Kahn]

Nevermind the thousands of fleeing Christians, we gotta save us some Kurds.

[thatcountrykid]

The pentagon confirmed today that they did perform an airstrike on isis

[Exocet]

So,the US Air force is striking terrorists positions,okay,but the Iraqi Army has to do the job on the ground !
Where are they ?

[Vlerchan]

ISIL aren't making gains against the Iraqi army at the moment - and they were recently pushed out of Lebanon (http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2014/Aug-06/266224-large-numbers-of-militants-withdraw-from-arsal-official.ashx#axzz39JOniRo6). They're making gains against the Kurds - Northern Iraq is held by the Kurds. I also don't have that much of a problem with the US bombing ISIL as they try make it to Ibril, I would just prefer it was the Iranians.

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So this makes it what the 7th Middle Eastern country that Obama is going to bomb? Progressive my arse

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LONDON, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Shares (Frankfurt: DI6.F - news) in energy companies operating [Vlerchan Note: inc. Exxon Mobil (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=XOM#symbol=XOM;range=1m)] in Iraqi Kurdistan plummeted on Thursday after Islamic State militants advanced closer to oilfields in the semi-autonomous region.

Oil producers, including Oslo-listed DNO Petroleum and London-listed Gulf Keystone Petroleum saw double-digit declines in their share prices as the radical Sunni militants seized at least three more towns near Kurdish-controlled territory.

While the firms said their Kurdish fields continued to operate, there are growing concerns about the security risks faced by firms active in Iraqi Kurdistan, seen as a beacon of relative stability in the region.

Shares in Oslo-listed oil producer DNO (Other OTC: DTNOF - news) fell up to 24 percent and London-listed Gulf Keystone Petroleum was down 13 percent at their lowest point on Thursday, before paring losses.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/iraqi-kurdistan-focused-oil-shares-142239001.html

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I personally don't believe this is about oil.

[Gamma Male]

I personally don't believe this is about oil.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131114033208/dogkids-vandalize/images/b/b2/Was-that-sarcasm.jpg

[Left Now]

I would just prefer it was the Iranians.

Why Iranians?

[Gigablue]

I personally don't believe this is about oil.

Everything is about oil.

Okay, not everything, but when the US intervenes in a foreign conflict, it generally has to do, at least in part, with oil. If this were happening in a country without oil reserves, would the US be so quick to act? Probably not.

Providing humanitarian aid is good, as long as it can be done efficiently, and they ensure it gets to the people who need it most. Military interventions, on the other hand, tend to be expensive, deadly, and achieve very little.

[Harry Smith]

As said above the US haven't done anything like this in the Congo which has seen extensive mass murders and killings for the last 10 years

[Exocet]

Iranians can't strike Iraq as US can.
Iranians don't have modern aircraft,they don't have guided air to ground bombs like the Paveways...

[Left Now]

Iranians can't strike Iraq as US can.
Iranians don't have modern aircraft,they don't have guided air to ground bombs like the Paveways...

Actually,Iran doesn't need to operate any kind of airstrike on Iraq while it is strategically and geographically close to Iraq and can take its ground forces easier and faster into there.Although,it has Air-To-Surface laser and tv guided missiles.

[Vlerchan]

Why Iranians?
I don't like the idea of the West dealing with your regional issues*. It's only made things worse in the past.

*Even if we did cause them (I'm sorry).

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I'm sure it does have something to do with oil.

I also read elsewhere, on another board, that there's several fledging companies based in Kurdistan (with ties to London and Washington), who were looking to diversify into north Africa and other parts of the Mediterranean in the next decade or so, and are standing to lose big from this. This has angered their investors and that has, through some institutional mechanism, triggered the response in Washington.

It sounds sort of conspiracy theory-ish, and it's unverified, though I thought it was an interesting theory.

[Sir Suomi]

Finally, we've started to realize that the ISIS are a threat that needs to be eliminated. Surprised Obama actually agreed to take action for once.

[Harry Smith]

Finally, we've started to realize that the ISIS are a threat that needs to be eliminated. Surprised Obama actually agreed to take action for once.

Yeah the 2009 Nobel peace prize winner now has another notch on his bed

[Sir Suomi]

Yeah the 2009 Nobel peace prize winner now has another notch on his bed

So you just want the ISIS to keep rampaging through Iraq, intentionally killing civilians left and right, yet you were just complaining about no involvement in Congo? Harry that's starting to sound a little hypocritical.

[Harry Smith]

So you just want the ISIS to keep rampaging through Iraq, intentionally killing civilians left and right, yet you were just complaining about no involvement in Congo? Harry that's starting to sound a little hypocritical.

I support it, I never once said that I oppose the air strikes did I?

I just thought it would be worth mentioning how well Mr Obama is doing

[thatcountrykid]

so you just want the isis to keep rampaging through iraq, intentionally killing civilians left and right, yet you were just complaining about no involvement in congo? Harry that's starting to sound a little hypocritical.

finally!!! Some one said it!!!

[Harry Smith]

finally!!! Some one said it!!!

what someone managed to misunderstand what I said?

[thatcountrykid]

what someone managed to misunderstand what I said?

no someone called you out as a hypocrite

[Harry Smith]

no someone called you out as a hypocrite

But I'm not a hypocrite-I support the air strikes against ISIS. I'd love to know what the exit plan is?

-Will the US tell the Saudi's to stop funding ISIS?
-Will they now give support to Assad who is also fighting ISIS?
-Will and who will they replace Maliki with as PM of Iraq?
-Will Iraq be split up into 3 different sections?
-When will ground troops get involded

It's easy to start a conflict, but Libya shows that whilst it's great removing an 'evil' force what do you replace it with?

[Sir Suomi]

But I'm not a hypocrite-I support the air strikes against ISIS. I'd love to know what the exit plan is?

-Will the US tell the Saudi's to stop funding ISIS?
-Will they now give support to Assad who is also fighting ISIS?
-Will and who will they replace Maliki with as PM of Iraq?
-Will Iraq be split up into 3 different sections?
-When will ground troops get involded

It's easy to start a conflict, but Libya shows that whilst it's great removing an 'evil' force what do you replace it with?

So what happened to Mr. "We've been playing the Middle East for the last 50 years?"

Wouldn't it just make you happier to just say fuck it and let things run their course?



The Middle East has every reason to be very angry at the US and the UK. We've been playing with them for the last 50 years

[Harry Smith]

So what happened to Mr. "We've been playing the Middle East for the last 50 years?"

Wouldn't it just make you happier to just say fuck it and let things run their course?

That's why I outlined the exit plan above-we need to make sure that it doesn't turn into Libya where we just turn up, bomb and then leave it. We have a legal right to intervene if genocide is about to occur

I'm still equally skeptical of the US, as I hope you are. They're not doing this out of compassion, and this whole situation could of been avoided if we didn't kick out Saddam in 2003 and then spend 10 years boasting how democratic and great Iraq is. This pretty much sums it up

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/08/us-air-strikes-iraq-islamic-state-iraqis

In the end, Islamic State will have to be defeated militarily but this can only be done by Iraqis themselves, on behalf of a credible national unity government. War waged by cynically self-interested foreign forces allied to a narrowly sectarian regime will exacerbate precisely the dynamics that created this situation to begin with. That, after all, is a major lesson of the post-2003 US-led occupation.

[Vlerchan]

Finally, we've started to realize that the ISIS are a threat that needs to be eliminated.
The US has told senior Iraqi officials that the Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, must leave office if it is to intervene militarily to stop the advance of Sunni extremists, The Independent has learnt. The Sunni community sees Mr Maliki as the main architect of its oppression and the Americans believe there can be no national reconciliation between Sunni and Shia unless he ceases to be leader of the country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-crisis-exclusive-us-rules-out-military-action-until-pm-nouri-almaliki-stands-down-9547311.html

Read: Obama has no interest in actually eliminating the threat for the sake of eliminating the threat when all it does is further empower the pro-Iran and pro-Syrian leader of Iraq.

[Sir Suomi]

The US has told senior Iraqi officials that the Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, must leave office if it is to intervene militarily to stop the advance of Sunni extremists, The Independent has learnt. The Sunni community sees Mr Maliki as the main architect of its oppression and the Americans believe there can be no national reconciliation between Sunni and Shia unless he ceases to be leader of the country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-crisis-exclusive-us-rules-out-military-action-until-pm-nouri-almaliki-stands-down-9547311.html

Read: Obama has no interest in actually eliminating the threat for the sake of eliminating the threat when all it does is further empower the pro-Iran and pro-Syrian leader of Iraq.

And like that my faith in him was utterly crushed, again.

[thatcountrykid]

And like that my faith in him was utterly crushed, again.

America is learning not to trust obama

[Harry Smith]

And like that my faith in him was utterly crushed, again.

Asking Maliki is actually a smart move-the man's corrupt, useless and has proved a weak leader in this whole sage. From Obama's point of view he might as well have a decent puppet in place.

The whole region has got flipped by this.

The US are helping Syria and Iran by bombing the allies of Saudi Arabia. For the last 3 years the US has been saying that Iran is evil and that Syria needs to be bombed yet now we're supporting them

America is learning not to trust obama

I'd argue that 98% of Republicans didn't trust him the moment he stepped into office

[thatcountrykid]

Asking Maliki is actually a smart move-the man's corrupt, useless and has proved a weak leader in this whole sage. From Obama's point of view he might as well have a decent puppet in place.

The whole region has got flipped by this.

The US are helping Syria and Iran by bombing the allies of Saudi Arabia. For the last 3 years the US has been saying that Iran is evil and that Syria needs to be bombed yet now we're supporting them



I'd argue that 98% of Republicans didn't trust him the moment he stepped into office

I mean the rest of the country

[Vlerchan]

Oh, hey, whaddya know? I was right.

The White House stressed the limited aims of the operations, aware that one of Obama's proudest achievements in office has been the extrication of America from Iraq after eight gruelling years of war.

A spokesman said that any additional support would be conditional on the formation of an "inclusive" government in Baghdad, a reflection of longstanding American discontent with the prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, who US and other western officials accuse of pursuing narrow sectarian goals in favour of his fellow Shias, and at the expense of the Sunni minority and national cohesion. One of the US arguments against using force against Isis earlier was that it might relieve pressure on Maliki to open up his government or step down.

The White House pledged that any additional support to a new government would not be prolonged and would not involve ground troops. The US vice- president Joe Biden phoned Iraq's president, Fuad Masum to discuss the strikes and press Baghdad to quickly form a new government, the White House said. "The vice president emphasised the threat Isil presented to all Iraqis and affirmed the US commitment to support Iraq and all of its citizens – from north to south – as they work to defend the country against this international threat," it said in a statement.

Friday's air strikes were framed as being a necessary step to protect a US joint operation centre in Irbil, used to coordinate defences with peshmerga fighters.

"The fact of the matter is we have people in Irbil and if Irbil is allowed to fall, they will be at risk," Ben Rhodes, the national security council spokesman, said.

The president's orders gave his commanders discretion to use air power to protect US military advisers and diplomats in Irbil and Baghdad, and to break the siege of the Yazidis on Sinjar.

It was unclear how long the air strikes around Irbil might last, or how America might extricate itself from an ever evolving and deepening conflict. Isis has proved itself a formidable force, which has rapidly spread its control over a large swath of Syria and Iraq, capturing oilfields and one city after another. Its fighters have declared themselves eager to take on American troops. They have seized control of a dam near Mosul, which if destroyed, could unleash a 20-metre wall of water on the valley, engulfing Iraq's second largest city.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/08/us-iraq-air-strikes-isis-irbil

It also states in that article that "Britain said the RAF would also take part in the mission to airdrop food for the stranded Yazidis" but "a Downing Street spokeswoman said Britain was "not planning a military intervention"".

And like that my faith in him was utterly crushed, again.
I don't blame Obama for wanting to not strengthen his enemies.

[Sir Suomi]

I think it's safe to say that President Obama has failed his duties as President, at least in the foreign policy department, wouldn't you all agree?

[Stronk Serb]

I think it's safe to say that President Obama has failed his duties as President, at least in the foreign policy department, wouldn't you all agree?

Social security too.

[Vlerchan]

I think it's safe to say that President Obama has failed his duties as President, at least in the foreign policy department, wouldn't you all agree?
You'll need to explain this one.

[Danny_boi 16]

I think taking out the troops from Iraq was a serious miscalculation made by Pres. Obama. I do support the humanitarian aid drop (food and water) I also support the air strikes. We are protecting religious minorities and our allies the Kurds. The Baghdad government has been asking the United States to do something, the Kurdish government has been asking us to do something, and the United Nations has been asking us to do something. The Yazidi religions minority are getting food and water, and the air strikes have destroyed several ISIL compounds around Iraq, especially in the Kurdish region.

[Harry Smith]

I think it's safe to say that President Obama has failed his duties as President, at least in the foreign policy department, wouldn't you all agree?

How so? I agree that he's been a disappointment but he's taken a smart step in Iraq. He's clearing up the mess from 2003. He's got the Republicans demanding that he take even further action in Iraq-the US didn't vote John Mccain in 2008, the US public don't want anymore foreign wars

This wouldn't be happening if Saddam was still in power

[Sir Suomi]

You'll need to explain this one.

I'll explain later when I get off of work today.

[Lovelife090994]

Finally we are realizing ISIS is a threat. Someone needs to stop that genocide from happening up in the mountains.

[ConsiderMeDead]

Finally we are realizing ISIS is a threat. Someone needs to stop that genocide from happening up in the mountains.

It's not our job too we've intervened enuff

[Lovelife090994]

It's not our job too we've intervened enuff

So you want to let tens of thousands die when the US and the world has the power to intervene and save lives?

[ConsiderMeDead]

we've tried everything we can do n only costin american lives we dont need another vietnam

[thatcountrykid]

we've tried everything we can do n only costin american lives we dont need another vietnam

This isn't gonna be Vietnam. We know their tactics. We outnumber them. We are better equipped. This would be no where close to Vietnam.

[ConsiderMeDead]

i mean in the reason fighting for no reason this is war between them u didnt see countries tring to break up the civil war? no they fueled it n thts wut we will do if MEU's r sent there

[Harry Smith]

This isn't gonna be Vietnam. We know their tactics. We outnumber them. We are better equipped

Lol that's what the US said before Vietnam.

They knew the Vietcongs tactics, they outnumbered them and the US were better equipped

[ConsiderMeDead]

Lol that's what the US said before Vietnam.

They knew the Vietcongs tactics, they outnumbered them and the US were better equipped

Aye we hav freckin napalm n copters they had canoes

[thatcountrykid]

Lol that's what the US said before Vietnam.

They knew the Vietcongs tactics, they outnumbered them and the US were better equipped

Look at the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This will be the same type of combat

[Vlerchan]

Look at the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This will be the same type of combat
You mean Guerilla Warfare? like in Vietnam.

[Harry Smith]

Look at the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This will be the same type of combat

Yeah and that worked so well didn't it. It's still guerrilla warfare

13 years since it started and we're still fighting. Great advert for NATO forces

[thatcountrykid]

Yeah and that worked so well didn't it. It's still guerrilla warfare

13 years since it started and we're still fighting. Great advert for NATO forces

Yes guerrilla warfare. Our special forces have played a vital role in that but big army is still effective. The korengal valley for example.

What would you rather NATO do? The way I see it the only two places they could be used right now is Iraq and Eastern Europe.

[Harry Smith]

Yes guerrilla warfare. Our special forces have played a vital role in that but big army is still effective. The korengal valley for example.

What would you rather NATO do? The way I see it the only two places they could be used right now is Iraq and Eastern Europe.

ah yeah Korangal Valley

After years of sustained fighting and casualties with little evident progress, the US military closed Korangal Outpost on April 14, 2010, after which the valley reverted to Taliban contro

Ah yeah great send NATO to fight the russians, who do you propose will send this troops? The French can't afford it, the Germans need their gas and the British don't want another fake war for the Neocon machine. You've got 800,000 russian troops to fight-here's your gun.

The situation in Ukraine has managed to actually solve itself, the Ukranian Army has been able to capture many of the rebel towns and is now about to capture Donetsk.

If you're referring to Russia annexing Crimea, how is it any different to the US annexing Texas?

[ConsiderMeDead]

MARSOC (U.S. Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command) is in charge of 48% of US's special ops so more n more marines r being killed this is evident in books n movies lik the battle for Fallajah

[thatcountrykid]

ah yeah Korangal Valley



Ah yeah great send NATO to fight the russians, who do you propose will send this troops? The French can't afford it, the Germans need their gas and the British don't want another fake war for the Neocon machine. You've got 800,000 russian troops to fight-here's your gun.

The situation in Ukraine has managed to actually solve itself, the Ukranian Army has been able to capture many of the rebel towns and is now about to capture Donetsk.

If you're referring to Russia annexing Crimea, how is it any different to the US annexing Texas?

Texas was its own independent country. Not a part of another nation.

I'm not saying fight Russia im saying the separatist militants. And If I vote or push for a war your damn sure I'll go.

[ConsiderMeDead]

how did we get to russians?

[thatcountrykid]

how did we get to russians?

I never mentioned them.

[Harry Smith]

Texas was its own independent country. Not a part of another nation.

I'm not saying fight Russia im saying the separatist militants. And If I vote or push for a war your damn sure I'll go.

Crimea would claim to be an independent territory after the Ukrainian revolution, the people of Crimea are russian. They want to live under the Russians. It's no different to the US fighting the British in the 1770's

How come it's one rule for America and another for Russia?

Why should we have to fight separatist militants? What right do we have to tell another people who there ruler should be, I don't understand how you seem to think that the US military can solve every problem in the world. If we get involded in Ukraine why don't we get involved in South Sudan? Or the CAR? or the Congo?

You can't just pick and choose where you fight, you need to be consistent in foreign policy

[thatcountrykid]

Crimea would claim to be an independent territory after the Ukrainian revolution, the people of Crimea are russian. They want to live under the Russians. It's no different to the US fighting the British in the 1770's

How come it's one rule for America and another for Russia?

Why should we have to fight separatist militants? What right do we have to tell another people who there ruler should be, I don't understand how you seem to think that the US military can solve every problem in the world. If we get involded in Ukraine why don't we get involved in South Sudan? Or the CAR? or the Congo?

You can't just pick and choose where you fight, you need to be consistent in foreign policy


We don't need to get involved with African warlord cause they do give us shit. We are not their allies. The whole thing with allies an foreign policy is we want what's best for our country. I know we can solve everything. But we sure can help.

Texas was formed by its self not by forcefully breaking off from a nation. Crimea rightfully belongs to Ukraine and Russia should be made to to give some sort of compensation.

The worlds traveled a lot farther than the 1700s and the two situations are not comparable.

[ConsiderMeDead]

Well u think we should stop the Israelites many yr attacks on Palestinians. No its not out business same as iraq

[thatcountrykid]

Well u think we should stop the Israelites many yr attacks on Palestinians. No its not out business same as iraq

I do not think Israel should stop. They were provoked and should not be condemned for their decision to return fire when they have been fired upon

[Harry Smith]

We don't need to get involved with African warlord cause they do give us shit. .

Warlord? It's nothing to do with warlords

[thatcountrykid]

Warlord? It's nothing to do with warlords

That's pretty much what most of Africa's troubles are.

[Harry Smith]

That's pretty much what most of Africa's troubles are.

No it's not. That's a gross simplification of the problem. It's fuck all to with warlords, that's just a word that the west use when they can't understand what problems are going on.

Have you done any research on 'Africa's trouble'? The three major issues are: Global Warming, debt and mass inequality.

[thatcountrykid]

No it's not. That's a gross simplification of the problem. It's fuck all to with warlords, that's just a word that the west use when they can't understand what problems are going on.

Have you done any research on 'Africa's trouble'? The three major issues are: Global Warming, debt and mass inequality.

Then if those are the situations in Africa then that is they're problem. To fizX. Like I said we are not allies with them

[Harry Smith]

Then if those are the situations in Africa then that is they're problem. To fizX. Like I said we are not allies with them

So a civil war in sudan is there problem but a civil war in Ukraine is our problem.

You shouldn't base your foreign policy on building alliances, otherwise you have a repeat of the cold war where the US supported dictatorships that committed crimes worse than the soviets

[thatcountrykid]

So a civil war in sudan is there problem but a civil war in Ukraine is our problem.

You shouldn't base your foreign policy on building alliances, otherwise you have a repeat of the cold war where the US supported dictatorships that committed crimes worse than the soviets

I base my foreign policy on what and who benefits my country more. Honestly I'd rather isolation but sadly that's not how the world is.

[Harry Smith]

I base my foreign policy on what and who benefits my country more.

Why is an American life worth more than an Iraqi life?

[thatcountrykid]

Why is an American life worth more than an Iraqi life?

When did I say that? Never. I think a country needs to take care of its self. I never said one persons life is more valuable than the other.

[Harry Smith]

When did I say that? Never. I think a country needs to take care of its self. I never said one persons life is more valuable than the other.

In taking the view that your foreign policy should solely benefits America you're going to end up with a very large amount of casualties on the opposite side, look at British foreign policy in the 1700's-that was based on what was best for our country

I base my foreign policy on what and who benefits my country more

[Living For Love]

Even though Malik has now resigned, I hope USA don't cease their intervention in Iraq, in terms of humanitarian and military aid.

[Vlerchan]

Even though Malik has now resigned, I hope USA don't cease their intervention in Iraq, in terms of humanitarian and military aid.
You'll find that the exact opposite is about to happen.

The apparent resolution of the political crisis should allow the new government to begin reclaiming the ground it has lost to the jihadists. But those terrorists—and the caliphate they claim to have established—also pose a direct and intolerable threat to the United States. A serious American policy would demonstrate to the new Iraqi Prime Minister that we are, after all, a dependable partner willing to put the full weight of our power in the service of a common interest. With Mr. Maliki gone, so too goes Mr. Obama's alibi for unseriousness.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/no-maliki-in-iraq-no-more-u-s-excuses-1408058839

I spoke earlier in the thread about how the US were holding back because Obama disagreed with Maliki being in power.

It's not our job too we've intervened enuff
The US caused this whole fiasco: it's a direct result of successive foreign policy decisions over the last 10 years.

Do you not believe that they owe the Iraqi people?

[Southside]

I do not think Israel should stop. They were provoked and should not be condemned for their decision to return fire when they have been fired upon

Provoked by malfunctioning rockets that most of the time fall in a open field or get shot down?

Should they be condemned for the 1,000+ civilian casualties? Should they be condemned for violating international law by building on occupied land? Should they be condemned for having a blockade that restricts basic human necessities?

[thatcountrykid]

Provoked by malfunctioning rockets that most of the time fall in a open field or get shot down?

Should they be condemned for the 1,000+ civilian casualties? Should they be condemned for violating international law by building on occupied land? Should they be condemned for having a blockade that restricts basic human necessities?

Te point of war is to kill the enemy not supply them and not all civilian casualties can be blamed on Israel.

[Harry Smith]

Te point of war is to kill the enemy not supply them and not all civilian casualties can be blamed on Israel.

So were the 4 children on the beach enemies?

I haven't seen you once codemn Israel for killing civilans

[thatcountrykid]

So were the 4 children on the beach enemies?

I haven't seen you once codemn Israel for killing civilans

I never said Israel didn't kill civilians. I'm saying shit happens in war and civilian deaths are part of it.

[Harry Smith]

. I'm saying shit happens in war and civilian deaths are part of it.

So it's bad when Hamas do it but fine when Israel do it?

You've still yet to criticize Israel for killing civilians

[Southside]

I never said Israel didn't kill civilians. I'm saying shit happens in war and civilian deaths are part of it.

So it's bad when Hamas do it but fine when Israel do it?

You've still yet to criticize Israel for killing civilians



He never criticized Israel for having nuclear weapons either...

[Harry Smith]

He never criticized Israel for having nuclear weapons either...

lol that's the irony. Along with telling us that civilian deaths happen in war, they also tend to happen when you bomb a school

[thatcountrykid]

So it's bad when Hamas do it but fine when Israel do it?

You've still yet to criticize Israel for killing civilians

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth.


He never criticized Israel for having nuclear weapons either...

Where did nukes even come into this.

[Harry Smith]

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I said that you've yet to condemn Israel for killing civilians which is true

[Vlerchan]

Iran is ready to join international action against jihadists in Iraq provided the West lifts crippling sanctions, Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said on Thursday.

[...]

"If we agree to do something in Iraq, the other side of the negotiations should do something in return," the official IRNA news agency quoted Zarif as saying.

"All the sanctions that are related to Iran's nuclear programme should be lifted," he said.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-offers-help-with-isis-if-us-lifts-nuclear-sanctions-2014-8#ixzz3B8ad03ra

Related, but not deserving its own thread.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this.

[Living For Love]

Iran is ready to join international action against jihadists in Iraq provided the West lifts crippling sanctions, Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said on Thursday.

[...]

"If we agree to do something in Iraq, the other side of the negotiations should do something in return," the official IRNA news agency quoted Zarif as saying.

"All the sanctions that are related to Iran's nuclear programme should be lifted," he said.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-offers-help-with-isis-if-us-lifts-nuclear-sanctions-2014-8#ixzz3B8ad03ra

Related, but not deserving its own thread.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this.

One more piece of news that confirms my theory: Iran's nuclear programme was, at least in some way, devised to help the creation of WMDs.

[Left Now]

One more piece of news that confirms my theory: Iran's nuclear programme was, at least in some way, devised to help the creation of WMDs.

Iran is ready to join international action against jihadists in Iraq provided the West lifts crippling sanctions, Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said on Thursday.

[...]

"If we agree to do something in Iraq, the other side of the negotiations should do something in return," the official IRNA news agency quoted Zarif as saying.

"All the sanctions that are related to Iran's nuclear programme should be lifted," he said.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-...#ixzz3B8ad03ra

Related, but not deserving its own thread.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this.

Iran denies it! (https://news.yahoo.com/iran-links-iraq-role-lifting-western-sanctions-113305552.html)

Reuters. (www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-iraq-security-iran-idUSKBN0GM0PA20140822)

It was "Arak" not "Iraq" idiots! (Kidding :) )

Such a mistake your medias made!

[Vlerchan]

Interesting. Thanks for the update, Broken Pen.

[Left Now]

Interesting. Thanks for the update, Broken Pen.

Your Welcome friend!

But it was such a misunderstanding wasn't it!

[Living For Love]

Iran denies it! (https://news.yahoo.com/iran-links-iraq-role-lifting-western-sanctions-113305552.html)

Reuters. (www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-iraq-security-iran-idUSKBN0GM0PA20140822)

It was "Arak" not "Iraq" idiots! (Kidding :) )

Such a mistake your medias made!

Oh, ok, then :(

Damn you, Reuters! :mad: