Malaysia Airlines plane crashes in east Ukraine near Russian border

[Exocet]

Again ! :confused:

A Malaysian Boeing 777 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has crashed in eastern Ukraine near Donetsk, according to online reports.
On board were 280 passengers and 15 crew, Russia’s Interfax news agency said.
Anti-Russian activists in the Ukraine claimed it was shot down over territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists.
Interfax quoted a source in aviation circles saying the flight was about 80 kilometres from Russian airspace.
The plane wreckage was said to be on fire.
Euromaidan PR linked to several videos showing thick plumes of smoke coming from an unidentified site.
Ukarine’s Espreso TV reported that pro-Russian militants had recently received anti-aircraft weapons capable of shooting down planes at high altitudes.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-plane-crashes-in-east-ukraine-near-russian-border-reports-20140718-zu9p2.html#ixzz37k2eYPWL

[Living For Love]

The plane was travelling at an altitude of 10km (9.7 miles), I wonder how they were able to shoot it down, even with new anti-aircraft weapons. Either way, that stupid conflict needs to end right now, it has just gone way too far.

EDIT: Oh, forget it, they apparently used a Buk SAM system to shoot it down (under the belief that they had shot down a Ukrainian transport plane).

[Apollo.]

Watching this on the news right now! If the Russians are found responsible I imagine this will turn out to be a major conflict and have horrible consequences for a lot of armed forces.

[Gamma Male]

Wow, Malaysia Airlines seems like a really dangerous airline recently. :/

[TheBigUnit]

Malaysian stocks are prob so low, it was an accident tbh but really horrifying what happened

[BuryYourFlame]

They were showing the leaked phone call between pro-Russian forces on the news as well. They specifically said they had shot down a plane and said that it had Malaysian Airlines markings. I have a very hard time calling it an 'accident', I acknowledge that they were under the impression they were shooting down a carrier plane but they have that responsibility to make sure they aren't killing hundreds of civilians. The word 'accident' seems to take away some responsibility from the Russians.

[Harry Smith]

this happened before in the cold war, nothing will come of it. Terrible loss of life, hope they can get the wreckage secure and work out who did this

[thatcountrykid]

the us government has apparently determined it was shot down by someone and they do not beleive it was ukraine.

[Stronger]

this happened before in the cold war, nothing will come of it. Terrible loss of life, hope they can get the wreckage secure and work out who did this

This, I believe it was Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in 1983.

[PythonProject]

Its going to be like children arguing, lets face it.
"Its was the pro-Russians"
"No it was Ukraine!"
Its just going to be like that. Its not the first time someone has shot down a airline and it won't be the last. The US shot down a airline, I believe it was from Iran or Israel, but there was no consequences for the US. Because the US is a powerful country and nobody dared say anything to them and it will be the same for Russia (If it is them) as they are just as powerful as the US.

[Lovelife090994]

My heart goes out to the dead and the grieving. I send my prayer and condolences to all. Whoever did this, blaming weren't work. For now we need to learn what we can, help those affected, and pray.

[Typho]

It's at the news right now, i still can't belive sutch things are still happening. At the news they say the plane was blown up by a missle, launched by the pro-russian separatists.
And it's very sad that the Malaysia Airlines lost a plane about 5 months ago and now this.

RIP all people who died.

[Ethe14]

RIP to all the dead

But on another note I think it was truly an accident. Why would anyone ever want to blow up a plane that's full of Dutch (one of the most peaceful countries on earth)? Regardless I think it's sad that this happened in the first place and I hope that if it wasn't an accident that whoever was responsible gets caught.

[Stronger]

RIP to all the dead

But on another note I think it was truly an accident. Why would anyone ever want to blow up a plane that's full of Dutch (one of the most peaceful countries on earth)? Regardless I think it's sad that this happened in the first place and I hope that if it wasn't an accident that whoever was responsible gets caught.

Unless you check specifically a radar lets say doesn't tell you, hey this plane is full of Dutch, etc. I believe the plane gives off like a special code (I can't think of what I really want to say) that defines it as either civilian or military and in the moment whoever fired (Believed to be from Russia) May have missed read and though pt it was military.

[Left Now]

Its going to be like children arguing, lets face it.
"Its was the pro-Russians"
"No it was Ukraine!"
Its just going to be like that. Its not the first time someone has shot down a airline and it won't be the last. The US shot down a airline, I believe it was from Iran or Israel, but there was no consequences for the US. Because the US is a powerful country and nobody dared say anything to them and it will be the same for Russia (If it is them) as they are just as powerful as the US.

Maybe it's just another "Hey!You did it because It was fallen in your land..." thing,who knows?

By the way that airplane was Iranian.The USS Vincennes (CG-49) missile cruiser shot down Iran Air Flight 655 jetliner in Persian Gulf during the last days of Iran-Iraq war while it was taking its passenger from Bandar Abbas port to Dubai.This guy was responsible for that tragedy : Capt.Will Rogers III

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/CAPT_Will_C._Rogers_III_1988.jpg

[Southside]

Definitely wasn't mechanical failure or an accident considering the events that took place in the area prior to the shoot down. Putin and the Russian government should be held with full responsibility for this senseless act of violence if the attack was the work of Russian separatist. I think this might mean a end in any US-Russia diplomacy.

RIP to all those who perished

[Vlerchan]

Someone needs to explain why the airplane was heading over an active conflict zone in the first place.

[Left Now]

Someone needs to explain why the airplane was heading over an active conflict zone in the first place.

Well,that's another question?Why did they actually head toward there while they knew that there has been a conflict in over there?Were they forced to fly toward that area?

[thatcountrykid]

Well,that's another question?Why did they actually head toward there while they knew that there has been a conflict in over there?Were they forced to fly toward that area?

Well you would expect the separatists would have the decency to not shoot down a civilian flight. Plus they had already been cleared.

[hockeyfan]

Let me just say that I think the Russians should treat the Ukrain differently.

Who does everyone think Is at fault?

[Gamma Male]

Let me just say that I think the Russians should treat the Ukrain differently.

Who does everyone think Is at fault?

Russia.

[Vlerchan]

Who does everyone think Is at fault?
Pro-Russian Separatists, by accident, and with no oversight from Russia.

[Southside]

Pro-Russian Separatists, by accident, and with no oversight from Russia.

How did they get the missile system?

[Vlerchan]

How did they get the missile system?
It was reported that the seperatists stole a 'broken' BUC, which would have been capable of taking down the aircraft, a while back: it's possible that the BUC could've been repaired and used in the attack. I'd say it's more likely that the Russians supplied them with anti-aircraft-ing capabilities, and whatever the Russians supplied was used.

Regardless, the early evidence that I've seen seems to point towards the seperatists: one of them was up on social-media mouthing about taking a plane down before the flight had even been reported missing, and the Ukraine have produced tapes of an allegedly intercepted rebel-to-rebel phone call in which they admit to shooting down the plane.