Do you believe in UFOs? Why the secrecy?

[Lovelife090994]

Do you believe. In UFOs? How do you feel about the governments of the world silencing and hiding anything on UFOs? Does any of this make you think the government is hiding something to "protect" us? I believe in UFOs and aliens. We can't be the only beings in the universe. Right?

Yes? No? Maybe? Whatever it is, just say what you think.

[dame]

I feel like the government should hide things like that from us to be completely honest. There's so much we wouldn't even understand if they told us all of what they knew. It'd cause so much panic & up-rise. I believe there is other life out there, if feel like it's crazy not to think so. The universe is never ending, how can we be the only ones in an infinite universe? It's scary to think about what;s out there, but then again I find it so intriguing. It's in our best interest to let the government hide things like that from us. I'd love to know personally, but I know many wouldn't be able to handle it. Could you imagine all the commotion that would be caused if we found out everything at once? Suicides, homicides, etc. would happen, in my opinion.

[Gamma Male]

I believe that it is very likely that alien life exists somewhere in the universe, however I believe it to be very unlikely that any aliens have actually visited earth, or that there's any real validity to those UFO conspiracy theories. They seem like a lot of bunk to me. But hey, it's possible that at some point aliens have visited earth. I really can't say.


That alien conspiracy theory show(I forget what it's called) is completely and utterly ridiculous though. Gives a bad name to legitimate conspiracy theorists.

[Camazotz]

That alien conspiracy theory show(I forget what it's called) is completely and utterly ridiculous though. Gives a bad name to legitimate conspiracy theorists.

Ancient Aliens.

Extra-terrestrial life almost certainly exists, but UFOs and alien visitors are fake. Hypnosis-abduction are scams, Area 51 is just a military base where they test new aircraft, UFO sightings are publicity stunts or people just not knowing what they're looking at, etc. Burden of proof is on alien conspiracists, and there has yet to be any evidence proving extra-terrestrial visits or interference (yes, even the pyramids).

[conniption]

I believe there are other living organisms in the universe, but the idea that they're intelligent and have visited earth sounds ludicrous.

[Karagor]

I feel like the government should hide things like that from us to be completely honest. There's so much we wouldn't even understand if they told us all of what they knew. It'd cause so much panic & up-rise. I believe there is other life out there, if feel like it's crazy not to think so. The universe is never ending, how can we be the only ones in an infinite universe? It's scary to think about what;s out there, but then again I find it so intriguing. It's in our best interest to let the government hide things like that from us. I'd love to know personally, but I know many wouldn't be able to handle it. Could you imagine all the commotion that would be caused if we found out everything at once? Suicides, homicides, etc. would happen, in my opinion.

The problem with this view is that people have a right to know. The government shouldn't have a dictatoral power over what we know and don't know about the universe. By not telling people, you're removing their rights.

That said, I find the likelihood of anything being hidden in a conspiratorial manner highly suspect. The most likely thing is we are not alone in the universe, because space is so big, but the BIGNESS of space is also the reason we'll never meet them. They are just too far away for either party to travel to the other. Even if the technology was found, what would be the point?

[PunkVanilla]

I'm unsure. I feel there's not enough evidence either way.

[Karagor]

I'm unsure. I feel there's not enough evidence either way.

If there's not enough evidence to persuade you that aliens exist, you ought to default to no... Otherwise you should also accept the possibility of absolutely everything and anything existing... Because there's not enough evidence to prove they don't.

[dame]

The problem with this view is that people have a right to know. The government shouldn't have a dictatoral power over what we know and don't know about the universe. By not telling people, you're removing their rights.

That said, I find the likelihood of anything being hidden in a conspiratorial manner highly suspect. The most likely thing is we are not alone in the universe, because space is so big, but the BIGNESS of space is also the reason we'll never meet them. They are just too far away for either party to travel to the other. Even if the technology was found, what would be the point?

We do deserve to know, it just doesn't bother me that they're keeping things like this away from us. I'm sure one day it's going to blow up in their face, but I feel like if we were informed about life away from Earth it would cause so much commotion & hysteria throughout the world.

Space is big, I don't know what's out there, nor the technology that may exist. What's out there is out there, & I feel like it should be left at that.

[Karagor]

Space is big, I don't know what's out there, nor the technology that may exist.

The truest thing said in this thread ;)

[ImCoolBeans]

I believe that it is very likely that alien life exists somewhere in the universe, however I believe it to be very unlikely that any aliens have actually visited earth, or that there's any real validity to those UFO conspiracy theories. They seem like a lot of bunk to me. But hey, it's possible that at some point aliens have visited earth. I really can't say.


That alien conspiracy theory show(I forget what it's called) is completely and utterly ridiculous though. Gives a bad name to legitimate conspiracy theorists.

Ancient Aliens.

Extra-terrestrial life almost certainly exists, but UFOs and alien visitors are fake. Hypnosis-abduction are scams, Area 51 is just a military base where they test new aircraft, UFO sightings are publicity stunts or people just not knowing what they're looking at, etc. Burden of proof is on alien conspiracists, and there has yet to be any evidence proving extra-terrestrial visits or interference (yes, even the pyramids).

I couldn't have said it better than Donald, and Matt did.

I don't think any of the abduction stories are true, I don't believe that there were ever aliens at Area 51, and I don't believe UFO sighting claims. I'm sure that somewhere out there, there is some sort of extra-terrestrial life, but I don't think they have been to Earth, and if they have been, it hasn't been for a long, long time. I can't really say for myself, I wasn't there, but I doubt aliens are doing fly-by's of Earth on a daily basis lol.

[Camazotz]

I couldn't have said it better than Donald, and Matt did.

I don't think any of the abduction stories are true, I don't believe that there were ever aliens at Area 51, and I don't believe UFO sighting claims. I'm sure that somewhere out there, there is some sort of extra-terrestrial life, but I don't think they have been to Earth, and if they have been, it hasn't been for a long, long time. I can't really say for myself, I wasn't there, but I doubt aliens are doing fly-by's of Earth on a daily basis lol.

On top of all that, why would "intelligent life" want to contact Earth? We have all these ideas that aliens would kidnap and probe us, but isn't it more likely that we do that to them? And follow them home to steal their natural resources? That's totally something humans would do: more imperialism.

[ImCoolBeans]

On top of all that, why would "intelligent life" want to contact Earth? We have all these ideas that aliens would kidnap and probe us, but isn't it more likely that we do that to them? And follow them home to steal their natural resources? That's totally something humans would do: more imperialism.

As much as I hate to say this, that is so true. That sounds precisely like what humans would do. We're freaked out about a foreign being coming and waging war on us... but has that not been the path of man all along? We wiped out an entire culture for "manifest destiny", and other cultures and countries have done equally as heinous things. If aliens do that, that sounds strikingly similar to the way humans have acted throughout history. I think we're going a little off-topic, though :P

[Gamma Male]

On top of all that, why would "intelligent life" want to contact Earth? We have all these ideas that aliens would kidnap and probe us, but isn't it more likely that we do that to them? And follow them home to steal their natural resources? That's totally something humans would do: more imperialism.

http://www.quick-break.net/c/2014/03/25/Titan_has_100_times_more_oil_than_Earth.jpeg

[thatcountrykid]

To make a long story short my great uncle was head of security at the rocky flats facility here in Colorado for a time. He knows the secrets and when he asked if I beleive in aliens he told me that I " better. What the government tells us now was old news 30 years ago.

[Cpt_Cutter]

It is theorized that the more technologically advanced a race becomes, the less need it has for violence. That's the answer to the Fermi paradox; every other species either killed itself off or became so advanced there are only very few scattered throughout the Galaxy (Note: Galaxy, not universe).

The logic that aliens would come to earth and do nothing but watch for decades if not hundreds of years is so flawed, that the analogy of driving across a country to see a zoo (when in all probability this zoo is the only other place on the planet with life), then not going inside and just sitting in the bushes next to the door does not accurately reflect the level of difficulty put into the feat of reaching our planet from the other side of the galaxy. If an alien race reaches our planet from across the galaxy, two scenarios are in the realm of possibility; They meet with us peacefully and integrate into the galactic community.The other scenario is that we blow them up, or die trying.

TL;DR
Aliens have existed, with almost no question. Whether or not any managed to pass the point of development we're fast approaching is debatable.

[Babs]

I think most - if not all - of the flying saucer pictures are fake or can be given a reasonable explanation. I do believe in aliens though. The universe is seemingly infinite so it is impossible for the earth to be the only planet capable of supporting life. I don't necessarily believe in the little green dudes with ray guns from mars, but some sort of creature must be out there.
Take Europa (one of Jupiter's moons) for example, under the icy surface is water. Where there is water, there could be life. Its probably nothing big, but even just some bacteria in the water is possible, which is really fucking cool.

[Microcosm]

There is an almost positive chance that some form of other living being on another planet does exist, but the chance of aliens from another planet zipping down to Earth in a UFO? Seriously? It's all just conspiracy and science fiction. It's good to imagine sometimes, but not to take seriously.

[Kurgg]

As this is posted in this topic for tens of times, I will still post it:

There are no UFO's in the sense we know (actually, unknown flying objects could be anything, like metal scrap coming down.) and aliens on the Earth. There are defenitely still life elsewhere on Universe. It is highly unlikely that we'll ever meet them. We'll kill ourselves before we will start traveling to the other star systems. If aliens decide to come here with space ships and shit, they would be smart enough to stay away from humans.

[Miserabilia]

Alien life HAS to exist statisticly. The odds are actualy very high that alien life exists all over the milky way.

As for the ufo part;
a ufo is an "unidentified flying object".
This could be refering to ANYTHING that flies and is unknown for what it is.

However, I'm assuming you specificaly mean, flying saucers.
Flying saucers are most likely complete bs, fueled by american paranoia.

[conner74]

i do believe theres got to be life out there somewhere

[Typhlosion]

Here's something I say: Conspiracy theories are synonymous with bullshit.

Aliens? Most likely. UFOs? Most likely not.

[Sir Suomi]

"There are two possibilities when it comes to the idea of life in our universe: Either we are alone, or we are not. Both of these possibilities scare me."

[Vlerchan]

Here's something I say: Conspiracy theories are synonymous with bullshit.
What about the ones that turned out to be true?

[Typhlosion]

What about the ones that turned out to be true?Please educate me on this. I once searched up conspiracy theories that turned up to be true but skimmed too much and/or didn't find anything relevant. Not that I'm saying there isn't.

I'm just associating the common view on mainstream conspiracies to be superfluous loads of lore people entertain themselves with and others take way too seriously. 9/11 an inside job, really?

[Vlerchan]

Please educate me on this.
The Iran-Contra Affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)
Project MK-Ultra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra)
The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident)

Etc.

9/11 an inside job, really?
Most modern conspiracy theories bring shame to the term 'conspiracy theory'.

[Typhlosion]

The Iran-Contra Affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)
Project MK-Ultra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra)
The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident)
Thank you for actually replying! I'll keep those, 'specially the last two, in mind.
Most modern conspiracy theories bring shame to the term 'conspiracy theory'.Pretty much what I was saying. Of course, with a lesser basis w/o serious conspiracy theories.

[Silicate Wielder]

The problem with this view is that people have a right to know. The government shouldn't have a dictatoral power over what we know and don't know about the universe. By not telling people, you're removing their rights.

That said, I find the likelihood of anything being hidden in a conspiratorial manner highly suspect. The most likely thing is we are not alone in the universe, because space is so big, but the BIGNESS of space is also the reason we'll never meet them. They are just too far away for either party to travel to the other. Even if the technology was found, what would be the point?

What if they have a perfectly good reason, perhaps some form of alien life has landed on earth in the past that was hostile? now if this is a peaceful race, then they need to tell the people. Or perhaps they dont say this because then other countries might attack us to gain control of any alien technologies that may be present? Think about it, even if it were safe to say this if there were only one country in the whole world, but that isnt the case, plenty of enemies and plenty of allies that could easily become enemies. if one finds out and gets greedy, we could be having a world war III situation

[Karagor]

What if they have a perfectly good reason, perhaps some form of alien life has landed on earth in the past that was hostile? now if this is a peaceful race, then they need to tell the people. Or perhaps they dont say this because then other countries might attack us to gain control of any alien technologies that may be present? Think about it, even if it were safe to say this if there were only one country in the whole world, but that isnt the case, plenty of enemies and plenty of allies that could easily become enemies. if one finds out and gets greedy, we could be having a world war III situation

Why do you think the states is the most likely place for a UFO to land?

Going by land mass, Asia is more likely.
Going by average IQ, Japan is more likely.
Going by population, China is more likely.
Going by religious fervor, the Vatican.

The States isn't particularly special.

If you don't believe it's the states that has this "alien technology" do you still believe that in the hands of Israel, or China, the technology is better? No one country deserves that power.

What's more, no country is more technically advanced enough to suggest any alien technology. In fact, our technological advancement has halted since the space race ended.

No, I don't agree with anything you said. If you really believe people shouldn't be told about aliens, then you must also follow that logic and conclude that people should not be permitted to carry guns, because it's too dangerous to others... People should not be allowed out of the house during peak crime hours. People should not be told where their tax money is being spent because it would bore them.

[Silicate Wielder]

Why do you think the states is the most likely place for a UFO to land?

Going by land mass, Asia is more likely.
Going by average IQ, Japan is more likely.
Going by population, China is more likely.
Going by religious fervor, the Vatican.

The States isn't particularly special.

If you don't believe it's the states that has this "alien technology" do you still believe that in the hands of Israel, or China, the technology is better? No one country deserves that power.

What's more, no country is more technically advanced enough to suggest any alien technology. In fact, our technological advancement has halted since the space race ended.

No, I don't agree with anything you said. If you really believe people shouldn't be told about aliens, then you must also follow that logic and conclude that people should not be permitted to carry guns, because it's too dangerous to others... People should not be allowed out of the house during peak crime hours. People should not be told where their tax money is being spent because it would bore them.

I wasnt going by any real research, but a scenario beased on reasons why the united States might hide such a secret if it had it

say a ufo crashes into New Mexico, military comes over inspects the wreckage and finds an alien corpse inside, they take it to base and secretly reverse engineer said technology keeping it secret from other countries that may be envious enough to attack and create a world war III, or perhaps the alien inside is alive, more or less same scenario unless said alien is hostile but outmatched in terms of firepower, being killed. they would want to keep it a secret right?

[Karagor]

I wasnt going by any real research, but a scenario beased on reasons why the united States might hide such a secret if it had it

say a ufo crashes into New Mexico, military comes over inspects the wreckage and finds an alien corpse inside, they take it to base and secretly reverse engineer said technology keeping it secret from other countries that may be envious enough to attack and create a world war III, or perhaps the alien inside is alive, more or less same scenario unless said alien is hostile but outmatched in terms of firepower, being killed. they would want to keep it a secret right?

So you admit that the likelihood is a UFO hasn't crashed anywhere? Because that's important. If you accept that, then you have to also accept the fact that we cannot possibly keep something like this hidden in the modern world. Phone cameras, satellites, and even the background radiation left behind would all leave evidence of the crash.

It would be impossible to hide nowadays.

But even if you're right and it's already happened - your entire argument is based on the fact that it has happened in your country, and not someone else's. If France got hold of this technology, don't you think Americans also have rights to the improvements it brings to the quality of life? The same goes for everyone else in the world.

[OrKing]

To me it's crazier to think that we're alone in the universe than that we're not. So I believe that we're not.