My Grandfather is a racist

[Dalcourt]

My grandparents came to visit us this weekend. Usually my Grandma comes alone but this time she had her husband, my Dad's stepfather with her.
I hardly know this man as he and my Dad never got along and my Dad usually doesn't talk to him.

From the time he went into our house he did nothing but find fault in anything, saying nasty things to my Dad and all. It made me angry, okay my Dad is not exactly what you wish to have as a son but still...he's trying hard to get his life together.

But then something even worse happened...My Dad said something about his new job and his stepfather said a lazy niggah like him is never able to keep a job...I just couldn't believe it. And neither my Dad nor my Grandma said anything... I mean wtf...I wad ready to punch this racist a**hole.
My Dad just dragged me from the room before I could open my mouth...I told me to just leave it. But I just feel like I can't. It's not right to let this man say those racist things in our house...and it's not right that my Grandma lets this man say racist things to her son.
I don't want to make my Dad angry with disobeying him and starting an argument with my stepgrandfather but I'm way too mad to just let this go by....

How on earth can my Dad be okay with beig treated like that??

[Dennis98]

Through the life you will see and hear many types of people .... Like my people say "thousand people , thousand tempers" ... You can not change his opinion , as he can not change yours ... You should be silent,calm and you should respect his opinion , although you think that it is not OK ... Maybe , he is doing that purposely , so keep calm , anyway , and never quarrel with older persons ( not culturally ) ... Anyway , just respect his opinion , I have many similar situations in my life , so , I always try to be calm and silent .... And yeah , we can not all be same , like I said thousand people , thousand tempers , so , world would be very boring place if we would be same or have same opinion ...

[CrazyPerson101]

Sadly, Parents ( grandparents ) can be rude/racist but you also have to remember, he's from a different genoration so things maynot seem as bad or mean sounding to him as it would to us ( I live with my grandparents ) People from different Gens. have different personalities , views, opinions etc.

[Dalcourt]

Sadly, Parents ( grandparents ) can be rude/racist but you also have to remember, he's from a different genoration so things maynot seem as bad or mean sounding to him as it would to us ( I live with my grandparents ) People from different Gens. have different personalities , views, opinions etc.

I kinda understand that people from different generations have different views on life and I'm okay. I know a lot of elderly people who aren't always politically correct it doesn't bother me.

It's just you know a white person calling a black person the n-word is really hurtful. And when you are married to a woman who has a black kid from another man you should be okay with the skin color of your stepson and not call him that.
He looks at us as if we were dirt, that's just not tolerable imo.

[CharlieHorse]

Don't worry, his racist generation will die out soon.

[CrazyPerson101]

I kinda understand that people from different generations have different views on life and I'm okay. I know a lot of elderly people who aren't always politically correct it doesn't bother me.

It's just you know a white person calling a black person the n-word is really hurtful. And when you are married to a woman who has a black kid from another man you should be okay with the skin color of your stepson and not call him that.
He looks at us as if we were dirt, that's just not tolerable imo.


I know, mine calls gay people queers, He calls the Japanese Japs and its just all sorts of old school racism ( He has altimers so thats made it worse ) All I can say is : He grew up in a different gen, his opinion , views on things are different from this genoration ( we have 3 in my house ) so it's interesting what we go through.

[Karkat]

Don't worry, his racist generation will die out soon.

Wooooooooow that's harsh

He came from a time when he was taught to be this way. It's not entirely that generation's fault- 50 years from now WE are all going to look like hateful, ignorant idiots.

[Melodic]

Don't worry, his racist generation will die out soon.

It wasn't a generation. People nowadays are still like that in the same and different ways, I could list my entire family plus some just to prove a point.

However, the judgmental grandparents, I get that. I lived with my Nana for three months earlier this year. It took a lot of slammed doors to get over the remarks. It's just a simple walk away and get over it thing. Whether you prove a point or name call, it was an opinion and the person will either change theirs someday or not.

[BabyGirl98]

It's really sad how there's people out there like your grandfather. You guys just have to ignore the negative and racist comments and think about the positive things in life.

[gothy]

I hate racist people. As a child i never saw race until people start being racist. It make me sick. I will sttick up for anyone being a victim of racism. And yeah id probably punch him too.

[phuckphace]

Don't worry, his racist generation will die out soon.

yes, and with them, the last shred of common sense and wisdom that this country had. yeah, they said mean words sometimes, but they were also a proud generation with a sense of community and spirit that just isn't seen anymore.

I'm sure you'll come to regret saying that, though. maybe by around 2050 when you're living in a potato cellar hiding from the local warlord and his goons. don't forget to pay your monthy tribute!

[Blood]

My grandparents came to visit us this weekend. Usually my Grandma comes alone but this time she had her husband, my Dad's stepfather with her.
I hardly know this man as he and my Dad never got along and my Dad usually doesn't talk to him.

From the time he went into our house he did nothing but find fault in anything, saying nasty things to my Dad and all. It made me angry, okay my Dad is not exactly what you wish to have as a son but still...he's trying hard to get his life together.

But then something even worse happened...My Dad said something about his new job and his stepfather said a lazy niggah like him is never able to keep a job...I just couldn't believe it. And neither my Dad nor my Grandma said anything... I mean wtf...I wad ready to punch this racist a**hole.
My Dad just dragged me from the room before I could open my mouth...I told me to just leave it. But I just feel like I can't. It's not right to let this man say those racist things in our house...and it's not right that my Grandma lets this man say racist things to her son.
I don't want to make my Dad angry with disobeying him and starting an argument with my stepgrandfather but I'm way too mad to just let this go by....
How on earth can my Dad be okay with beig treated like that??

This was sad to read. It's a real shame that in this day and age people are still being judged and stereotyped by the color of their skin.

For the part I've bolded: I can guarantee that your dad is not okay with being treated this way. Who would be? He's probably just smart enough to know that confrontation with his stepdad won't really solve anything, but most likely cause problems.



Don't worry, his racist generation will die out soon.

Racism isn't purely a generational issue. It may have been stronger back then than it is now, but killing off the previous generation isn't going to better ours in any way.

yes, and with them, the last shred of common sense and wisdom that this country had. yeah, they said mean words sometimes, but they were also a proud generation with a sense of community and spirit that just isn't seen anymore.

I'm sure you'll come to regret saying that, though. maybe by around 2050 when you're living in a potato cellar hiding from the local warlord and his goons. don't forget to pay your monthy tribute!

Wow, what an ignorant thing to say.

[CharlieHorse]

Wooooooooow that's harsh

He came from a time when he was taught to be this way. It's not entirely that generation's fault- 50 years from now WE are all going to look like hateful, ignorant idiots.

Yes I know. I shouldn't have said that.

[Karkat]

Yes I know. I shouldn't have said that.

It's ok, we all say stupid things sometimes, but yeah, that was harsh.

[Camazotz]

Yes I know. I shouldn't have said that.

Don't worry about it, you didn't wish for them to die, you just made the observation that the racists of that generation are getting up there in age, and it wasn't really that offensive.

I kinda understand that people from different generations have different views on life and I'm okay. I know a lot of elderly people who aren't always politically correct it doesn't bother me.

It's just you know a white person calling a black person the n-word is really hurtful. And when you are married to a woman who has a black kid from another man you should be okay with the skin color of your stepson and not call him that.
He looks at us as if we were dirt, that's just not tolerable imo.

You're absolutely right. You have every right to be upset and angry at what he said. It sucks, but some people are filled with that kind of hate, and there's not much you can do about it.

You can try reasoning with him, but he's probably set in his ways. You could scream at him, but that wouldn't really solve anything. There are tons of ways you could react, but the best thing you can do is to let it go for now. If he says it again, then you should feel free to defend yourself. As a society, we've come a long way since what he said was okay, and ignoring it might only make you feel worse.

If you don't take a stand, then what was the point for Civil Rights protesters in fighting for equal treatment? So kids only a couple generations removed would sit there and take abuse from an old racist? You should do what feels right.

[CosmicNoodle]

Eventually racism will be a thing of the past, just ignore him, he sounds like an asshole, just an ignorant in accepting bastard by the sounds of it, racism is the epitome of stupidity

[Dalcourt]

yes, and with them, the last shred of common sense and wisdom that this country had. yeah, they said mean words sometimes, but they were also a proud generation with a sense of community and spirit that just isn't seen anymore.

I'm sure you'll come to regret saying that, though. maybe by around 2050 when you're living in a potato cellar hiding from the local warlord and his goons. don't forget to pay your monthy tribute![/QUOTE

What has racism to do with having community spirit? I don't see what being proud has to do with abusing someone in this way. I mean if he said ....insert my Dad's name here you are a lazy ass who can never keep a job, okay, that's his opinion about him but what has his skin color to do with it? It's a stupid generalization that has nothing to do with my father.

[QUOTE=Blood;2862329]This was sad to read. It's a real shame that in this day and age people are still being judged and stereotyped by the color of their skin.

For the part I've bolded: I can guarantee that your dad is not okay with being treated this way. Who would be? He's probably just smart enough to know that confrontation with his stepdad won't really solve anything, but most likely cause problems.



I guess you're probably right, but I still feel he should have said anything.



If you don't take a stand, then what was the point for Civil Rights protesters in fighting for equal treatment? So kids only a couple generations removed would sit there and take abuse from an old racist? You should do what feels right.

That's what I think, too...and that's why I am mad cuz my Dad doesn't want me to say anything.

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

I would've spit in his food, but my solutions are not always the best.

[Horatio Nelson]

Wow, that's really sad man. Your best bet is to not do anything. Sometimes you have to turn the metaphorical cheek and just deal with it.

[Gamma Male]

To be honest, there's not really much you can do. At his age it's very unlikely his views are going to change, and yelling and getting angry usually only makes things worse. I would just try to avoid talking or being around him in the future. If he says something like that again by all means defend yourself, but don't expect much to come of it.

I would've spit in his food, but my solutions are not always the best.

yes, and with them, the last shred of common sense and wisdom that this country had. yeah, they said mean words sometimes, but they were also a proud generation with a sense of community and spirit that just isn't seen anymore.

I'm sure you'll come to regret saying that, though. maybe by around 2050 when you're living in a potato cellar hiding from the local warlord and his goons. don't forget to pay your monthy tribute!

These are both very funny in very different ways.:lol:

[Celtics]

Be glad you dad didn't do anything, shows that he has respect unlike your grandfather. My grandma is a nice racist if that makes sense, she just says nice things like "Its amazing how far black people have come", but she has dimensia and other problems so that's different. Just be the better person and don't let him get to you, even though I would've liked to say something too, cant stand racists.

[Dennis98]

So , what is problem if he is racist ... He has opinion about something , and I dont see problem there , BECAUSE , Earth would be very boring place if all we would be same ... My grand grand father was Nazi lieutenant , and you guys dont want to I write some sentences from his war diary ... There is a lotttt sentences about Jews , Blacks , Gypsies and other non "Aryan race" people .... By the way , I have also his pictures during usual Nazi "actions" in WW2 ...

[Harry Smith]

So , what is problem if he is racist ... He has opinion about something , and I dont see problem there , BECAUSE , Earth would be very boring place if all we would be same ... My grand grand father was Nazi lieutenant , and you guys dont want to I write some sentences from his war diary ... There is a lotttt sentences about Jews , Blacks , Gypsies and other non "Aryan race" people .... By the way , I have also his pictures during usual Nazi "actions" in WW2 ...

You should try and sound a little less proud about a family member serving a totalitarian dictator who put Europe at war for 6 years

[Dennis98]

Whatever he was , I can not be shame on him , he is my grand grand father , father of my grandpa and most important , he was MY BLOOD ...

[Stronk Serb]

My grandparents came to visit us this weekend. Usually my Grandma comes alone but this time she had her husband, my Dad's stepfather with her.
I hardly know this man as he and my Dad never got along and my Dad usually doesn't talk to him.

From the time he went into our house he did nothing but find fault in anything, saying nasty things to my Dad and all. It made me angry, okay my Dad is not exactly what you wish to have as a son but still...he's trying hard to get his life together.

But then something even worse happened...My Dad said something about his new job and his stepfather said a lazy niggah like him is never able to keep a job...I just couldn't believe it. And neither my Dad nor my Grandma said anything... I mean wtf...I wad ready to punch this racist a**hole.
My Dad just dragged me from the room before I could open my mouth...I told me to just leave it. But I just feel like I can't. It's not right to let this man say those racist things in our house...and it's not right that my Grandma lets this man say racist things to her son.
I don't want to make my Dad angry with disobeying him and starting an argument with my stepgrandfather but I'm way too mad to just let this go by....

How on earth can my Dad be okay with beig treated like that??

On a holiday some Croats called me a Chetnik, a bastard,a lowlife. Said how I will end up in Jasenovac and how they, the Ustashe will butcher me. Those are all great insults, except the first one, it depends on the person. I told them one word: Blajburg. That's a place on the Sloveno-Austrian border where 30,000 ustashi dogs were shot, and thousands more sent to labour camps. But don't say anything to him. He is older, just ignore him. Maybe offer him a drink or a snack when he says that. Here in some more traditional homes, if you have been welcomed as a guest, you will be offered with food and drinks even though you are a total jerk, especially if you are family. We hold family bonds sacred, what will you always have? Your family, and your family will have you.

[Harry Smith]

if you have been welcomed as a guest, you will be offered with food and drinks even though you are a total jerk, especially if you are family. We hold family bonds sacred, what will you always have? Your family, and your family will have you.

So many Game of Thrones jokes to be made there

[Stronk Serb]

So many Game of Thrones jokes to be made there


I just wonder about whom. The Lannister twins or the Targeryen family.

[Apollo.]

So , what is problem if he is racist ... He has opinion about something , and I dont see problem there , BECAUSE , Earth would be very boring place if all we would be same ... My grand grand father was Nazi lieutenant , and you guys dont want to I write some sentences from his war diary ... There is a lotttt sentences about Jews , Blacks , Gypsies and other non "Aryan race" people .... By the way , I have also his pictures during usual Nazi "actions" in WW2 ...

So by your logic, the world would be boring with out war, discrimination and disgusting human beings like your great grand father? I think most people are guilty of discrimination in one way or another but to be proud of it, or proud of what your great grandfather did is just wrong.

[Dennis98]

No , you just took that from context ... I wanted to say , that during life we will saw many types of people , so no one can have same opinion about something , we are all different ... So , imagine world like one place where we are all same ... So , there will always be "thousand people , thousand tempers" - as my people says ... So , I am really sorry if I offend someone or discriminated someone , I just wanted to show that everywhere you can see some people who thought like his grandfather , so I didnt want to offend anyone ... Second , I can not feel guilty because I am psychopath as first and as second I can not feel guilty for something that my ancestor did in his life , I can only be pround on him whatever he was , because , as I said he is still my blood ... Third , I really dont want to talk about my political views on this forum , because you can see from my signature , about my political views and you can see that genes are miracle ....

[Karkat]

No , you just took that from context ... I wanted to say , that during life we will saw many types of people , so no one can have same opinion about something , we are all different ... So , imagine world like one place where we are all same ... So , there will always be "thousand people , thousand tempers" - as my people says ... So , I am really sorry if I offend someone or discriminated someone , I just wanted to show that everywhere you can see some people who thought like his grandfather , so I didnt want to offend anyone ... Second , I can not feel guilty because I am psychopath as first and as second I can not feel guilty for something that my ancestor did in his life , I can only be pround on him whatever he was , because , as I said he is still my blood ... Third , I really dont want to talk about my political views on this forum , because you can see from my signature , about my political views and you can see that genes are miracle ....

...So it's ok to hate people you think are beneath you for petty reasons? Sounds fair.

[Stronk Serb]

...So it's ok to hate people you think are beneath you for petty reasons? Sounds fair.

Nationalism is acknowledging other races and ethnicites as equal but loving and taking pride in your race/ethnicity. Chauvinism is glorifying your own race/ethnicity and saying all others are worthless. Both chauvinism and racism are, from your and mine moral standpoint, not ok. You have people who, from their moral standpoint, think it's ok to hate other races and ethnicites because they think they are inferior. Now it would be fair if anyone could express their opinions, but not enforce them. About the subject of the thread, what the guy said is bad because it's family. Here we don't say stuff like that and we respect eachother if we are family. My neighbours in my country house are Croats, amd there is bad blood between Croats and Serbs, especially since WWII and the nineties, but we acknowledge that none of us are in any way responsible for the attrocities, so we are friendly. You have some people who say that they should be exiled or killed but nobody cares, it's shocking that they say those things without even meeting those people. But if we can call chauvinists and racists idiot for their views, th.ey should be allowed freedom of speech

[Karkat]

Nationalism is acknowledging other races and ethnicites as equal but loving and taking pride in your race/ethnicity. Chauvinism is glorifying your own race/ethnicity and saying all others are worthless. Both chauvinism and racism are, from your and mine moral standpoint, not ok. You have people who, from their moral standpoint, think it's ok to hate other races and ethnicites because they think they are inferior. Now it would be fair if anyone could express their opinions, but not enforce them. About the subject of the thread, what the guy said is bad because it's family. Here we don't say stuff like that and we respect eachother if we are family. My neighbours in my country house are Croats, amd there is bad blood between Croats and Serbs, especially since WWII and the nineties, but we acknowledge that none of us are in any way responsible for the attrocities, so we are friendly. You have some people who say that they should be exiled or killed but nobody cares, it's shocking that they say those things without even meeting those people. But if we can call chauvinists and racists idiot for their views, th.ey should be allowed freedom of speech

Oh it's not that they shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech, just that they shouldn't have freedom from judgement.

[Dalcourt]

To read some of these things that are said by young people in this day and age is really making me sad. All those wars that had been fought all those civil rights movements...and all most people say is it's part of personal freedom and opinion to treat others like dirt...and if you are treated like dirt just let them to avoid conflict.

Anyway, I said to my Grandfather that I don't tolerate words like that and as a response he said he knew I never would, but that's how he feels about people like my Dad. They never got along and it always bugged him to have a black stepson.

So yeah, I guess humans still have a long way to go til they are equal.

[anrigirl]

Nothing in the world makes me as mad as racism!! I see racism each and every day in South Africa!! The older white generation still think it is Apartheid and the older black generation now hates white people, at some universities white people may not go and study! White people do not get helped by the government etc etc. Everyone should just get over with apartheid!!

[Stronk Serb]

To read some of these things that are said by young people in this day and age is really making me sad. All those wars that had been fought all those civil rights movements...and all most people say is it's part of personal freedom and opinion to treat others like dirt...and if you are treated like dirt just let them to avoid conflict.

Anyway, I said to my Grandfather that I don't tolerate words like that and as a response he said he knew I never would, but that's how he feels about people like my Dad. They never got along and it always bugged him to have a black stepson.

So yeah, I guess humans still have a long way to go til they are equal.

So he has nothing against you?

[Harry Smith]

So he has nothing against you?

I'd say that anyone who openly bears the Swastika has something against the whole of humanity. Considering his avatar belongs to the...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)

I thought you'd be pretty opposed to someone who openly bears the sigil of the Waffen SS

I can only be pround on him whatever he was , because , as I said he is still my blood

Wow it's not the 1930's. Just because he passed on your great grandfather through his sperm doesn't mean you should have some ethernal bond with him-if your great great grandfather personally fought for the Nazis you should not be proud.

It's laughable that these neo-nazis fanboys still exist, it's just kids playing at war who think they're hip and edgy because they draw a swastika on their book

[Stronk Serb]

I'd say that anyone who openly bears the Swastika has something against the whole of humanity. Considering his avatar belongs to the...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)

I thought you'd be pretty opposed to someone who openly bears the sigil of the Waffen SS



Wow it's not the 1930's. Just because he passed on your great grandfather through his sperm doesn't mean you should have some ethernal bond with him-if your great great grandfather personally fought for the Nazis you should not be proud.

It's laughable that these neo-nazis fanboys still exist, it's just kids playing at war who think they're hip and edgy because they draw a swastika on their book

It was a Bosniak-Croatian division. Most men serving there were Muslims hence the name. I think that you should not be proud of a Nazi great grandfather, especially if you are from a "non-aryan" race which the Nazis wanted enslaved or eradicated. My great grand uncle was in the Partisans. I am not proud of some things he did. Like killing 800 Ustashi and SS POWs without trial. I also think he participated in the Blaiburg massacre where 30,000 Ustashas and other quinslings were shot. I think we shouldn't take pride in attrocities done by our ancestors. I don't hate my uncle for what he did, I just don't agree with it. If he wants to put the insignia of the SS division his great grandfather served in, let hin but it looks rather funny.

[Dennis98]

It was a Bosniak-Croatian division. Most men serving there were Muslims hence the name. I think that you should not be proud of a Nazi great grandfather, especially if you are from a "non-aryan" race which the Nazis wanted enslaved or eradicated. My great grand uncle was in the Partisans. I am not proud of some things he did. Like killing 800 Ustashi and SS POWs without trial. I also think he participated in the Blaiburg massacre where 30,000 Ustashas and other quinslings were shot. I think we shouldn't take pride in attrocities done by our ancestors. I don't hate my uncle for what he did, I just don't agree with it. If he wants to put the insignia of the SS division his great grandfather served in, let hin but it looks rather funny.


As you said , you are proud on your grand uncle that was on Communist side ... I am proud also on my great grand father that served in 13th Mountain Infantry SS Divission known as Handshar Divission ... I have images from war and his diary memoars , so I know exactly what was he doing every day since Germany annexed Kingdom of Yugoslavia .. Your great uncle participated in Blaiburg massacre , like my great grand father participated in Jasenovac , Stara Gradiška , Handshar actions in Bosnia and Sadžak in Serbia and Montenegro ... Like your grand uncle , everyone know that he didnt play chess with enemies ... So , that was his choose , and I dont uderstand someone when say that I should not be proud on him , than on who should I be proud , on Tito , who took all our property and nationalised it ( property that worth about 350-400 millions of today euros ) ?! Or should I be proud on someone else ?

[Harry Smith]

I am proud also on my great grand father that served in 13th Mountain Infantry SS Divission known as Handshar Divission

The think is that not only are you proud-but you also seem to follow your great grandfathers political and ideological views, which I don't really think has much place in the 21st Century.

Considering the Waffen SS have been classed as an illegal group and one which broke nearly every single law of the Geneva convention I don't think you should be that proud that your family helped serve a regime that killed 6 million jews and probably about 4 million others. Or do you support that?

[Dennis98]

Well you have really good abilities of reading and understanding ... Anyway , nearly every ancestor of people in my town was SS soldier , so we dont care for West , like all Easters Europe countries for West , because East is important , West is not ... And yeah , I think that you are not important figure to debate is there much or little place for that kind of political and ideological view . It is matter of time , when will that ideology rise again ...

[Stronk Serb]

As you said , you are proud on your grand uncle that was on Communist side ... I am proud also on my great grand father that served in 13th Mountain Infantry SS Divission known as Handshar Divission ... I have images from war and his diary memoars , so I know exactly what was he doing every day since Germany annexed Kingdom of Yugoslavia .. Your great uncle participated in Blaiburg massacre , like my great grand father participated in Jasenovac , Stara Gradiška , Handshar actions in Bosnia and Sadžak in Serbia and Montenegro ... Like your grand uncle , everyone know that he didnt play chess with enemies ... So , that was his choose , and I dont uderstand someone when say that I should not be proud on him , than on who should I be proud , on Tito , who took all our property and nationalised it ( property that worth about 350-400 millions of today euros ) ?! Or should I be proud on someone else ?


I am not proud of his attrocities but I am proud that he fought for what I percieve as the liberation of the Yugoslav people. He's my blood so I can't hate him. Even if he fought in the SS, I would be indifferent. He is my grand uncle and he did what he thought was good.

[Dennis98]

That is what I wanted to say ... You are not ashame of him , but you are maybe not proud on some of his actions , same with me , and I also can not hate my great grand father or be ashamed because of him because he is my blood too . Also , as you think that he fought for good I also think that my great grand father fought for good too .... We will always have different ideals , political views and opinions because your grand uncle fought for Communism ( Left wing ) and my great grand father fought for National Socialism ( Nazism ) which is extremely right wing ...

[Harry Smith]

as you think that he fought for good I also think that my great grand father fought for good too

So you think that the holocaust should of happened then?

[Dennis98]

Harry Smith - Point of your every post is to provoke me and , as I see you just wait me to I explode and write something that is considered forbidden on this forum , and then to report me ... From now , I will not debate with you any more , because I now understand point of you commenting , and I will pretend that your posts from now doesnt exist any more ...

[Harry Smith]

Harry Smith - Point of your every post is to provoke me and , as I see you just wait me to I explode and write something that is considered forbidden on this forum , and then to report me ... From now , I will not debate with you any more , because I now understand point of you commenting , and I will pretend that your posts from now doesnt exist any more ...

So that translates to-you support the holocaust but you don't wish to admit it

[Dalcourt]

So he has nothing against you?

Honestly, I don't know. He kinda hates my Dad but I guess he's indifferent when it comes to me. For him being a niggah and not just black is maybe more about your way of life...That's at least how my Grandma explained it to me.

Well you have really good abilities of reading and understanding ... Anyway , nearly every ancestor of people in my town was SS soldier , so we dont care for West , like all Easters Europe countries for West , because East is important , West is not ... And yeah , I think that you are not important figure to debate is there much or little place for that kind of political and ideological view . It is matter of time , when will that ideology rise again ...
I really don't get why you or any other person thinks that some race or countries or whatever are more important or better than other. It's okay to be proud if you want to but why bash others? Do you know why the people where you live supported the Nazis? Just wondering. Maybe it was just opportunism and cowardice, cuz I think it is weird like blacks fighting for the confederate army.

[SkootuGurl]

Or should I be proud on someone else ?

The only person you should be proud of is yourself, really, for the things that you have accomplished. We had no influence on people from the past, so there's no reason to be proud of their actions.

[Dennis98]

Peanut24 - I dont know where did I writed that some race or country is more important than other , anyway if you found that , write a quote , OK ?! Well , Nazis were very good to my people ... So most of my people joined them . They never killed some member of my people without reason , just if he/she cooperated with Communists or other rebel groups , and anyway my people wasnt on non list of people for "FINAL SOLUTION" , so Germans considered my people as "Aryan race" people ... Anyway , I support extreme right ideology views but I really really disagree with racism , and that is only principle I do not agree , all others principles - I agree ...

[Stronk Serb]

Honestly, I don't know. He kinda hates my Dad but I guess he's indifferent when it comes to me. For him being a niggah and not just black is maybe more about your way of life...That's at least how my Grandma explained it to me.


I really don't get why you or any other person thinks that some race or countries or whatever are more important or better than other. It's okay to be proud if you want to but why bash others? Do you know why the people where you live supported the Nazis? Just wondering. Maybe it was just opportunism and cowardice, cuz I think it is weird like blacks fighting for the confederate army.

Still he shouldn't say that to a family member.

[Dalcourt]

so we dont care for West , like all Easters Europe countries for West , because East is important , West is not ... And yeah , I think that you are not important figure to debate is there much or little place for that kind of political and ideological view . It is matter of time , when will that ideology rise again ...

the east consists of countries and people, the west consists of countries and people you say one is more important than the other, that's also the post I quoted before...so yeah, there you said it.

See I don't want to attack you in anyway at all, I just always feel this rightist views are kinda strange and just don't understand them. This has nothing to do with you at all and I don't blame you for being proud about your ancestors you have every right to be as have I or any other person in the world.

[Babiole]

My grandparents aren't racist, though I have an Italian great-uncle who constantly complains about Albanians. He does it practically every time I see him. He thinks there's too many of them in Italy. He complains about their Islamic religion a lot. The ironic thing is that Albanians tend to be very light in color - they're frequently blond. My uncle is very dark.

One of my paternal grandmother's sisters expressed extreme revulsion when my dad's youngest brother announced that he was marrying an African woman. She refused to visit him and his "negress" wife when they moved to France.