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Gamma Male
June 27th, 2014, 12:06 PM
Is police brutality a problem in your country? I think it is in America. I know that most cops are good, but a lot of them seem to think that they're above the law.

Seriously, if a foreigner were to watch the show "cops" for any amount if time he would think this is some sort of police state. 80% of what they do on there is just tazing nonviolent druggies and slamming them into the ground for interrupting them.

But what's even worse is the way the media almost never reports police brutality. Probably because it's so common. I can point to thousands of stories from independent news sites about police brutality in America. But of course since the judge and cops are usually all buddybudddy, these cases almost never get through.

How are things in your country?

Harry Smith
June 27th, 2014, 12:48 PM
Lol the police here don't really understand how to stop a protest of any form, that's their major problem. For example the only tactic they know is to get about 200 officers with riot shields and fence about 100,000 in like Cattle for about 5 hours without any food, water or toilet access

CosmicNoodle
June 27th, 2014, 01:00 PM
Lol the police here don't really understand how to stop a protest of any form, that's their major problem. For example the only tactic they know is to get about 200 officers with riot shields and fence about 100,000 in like Cattle for about 5 hours without any food, water or toilet access

This^
The police here ate inpet compleately. They have to functions, useless and deadly, they are ether ineffective, or killing people. For instancfe, there is so much red tape up here they cant do anything properly in case they "Infringe the rights" of the criminal, and as soon as it gets bad enough to overstep the tape they are fucking morons with no brains.
As you can tell, i dislike the police system in the UK

Gamma Male
June 27th, 2014, 01:24 PM
This^
The police here ate inpet compleately. They have to functions, useless and deadly, they are ether ineffective, or killing people. For instancfe, there is so much red tape up here they cant do anything properly in case they "Infringe the rights" of the criminal, and as soon as it gets bad enough to overstep the tape they are fucking morons with no brains.
As you can tell, i dislike the police system in the UK

I'll trade ya. ;)

Miserabilia
June 27th, 2014, 01:33 PM
American cops are f*ing crazy, the shoot to kill culture there is completely nuts especialy from my point of view, because all of that s*t won't happen here!
I know I know I go to too dark places on the internet, but
I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESSS videos, where someone isn't doing something directly extremele ythreatening or life dangering to a cop, and the cop shoots them.
BUT NOT ONCE.
They shoot atleast 3 times.
In the chest.

WTF.
It drivse me crazy.
I have seen many police documentaries, brittish and american, in brittish ones the cops usualy carry some kind of weapon like a stick and they knock out criminals or just push them to the ground and fight like a man.
In american ones, he criminal disobeys them once and BAM. Dead.
Life ended.

-rant out

Horatio Nelson
June 27th, 2014, 01:34 PM
Police brutality is a thing. But the reason it is so prevalent is because that's all the media reports, you rarely hear news stories about how officers save peoples lives everyday. There are plenty of terrible cops out there, but there are far more good cops.

Miserabilia
June 27th, 2014, 01:39 PM
Police brutality is a thing. But the reason it is so prevalent is because that's all the media reports, you rarely hear news stories about how officers save peoples lives everyday. There are plenty of terrible cops out there, but there are far more good cops.

Though I haven't found statistics to back this up, I think (I'm not sure though) that in the USA the police kill more criminals during arresting them than saving lives of innocent people.

Horatio Nelson
June 27th, 2014, 01:40 PM
American cops are f*ing crazy, the shoot to kill culture there is completely nuts especialy from my point of view, because all of that s*t won't happen here!
I know I know I go to too dark places on the internet, but
I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESSS videos, where someone isn't doing something directly extremele ythreatening or life dangering to a cop, and the cop shoots them.
BUT NOT ONCE.
They shoot atleast 3 times.
In the chest.

WTF.
It drivse me crazy.
I have seen many police documentaries, brittish and american, in brittish ones the cops usualy carry some kind of weapon like a stick and they knock out criminals or just push them to the ground and fight like a man.
In american ones, he criminal disobeys them once and BAM. Dead.
Life ended.

-rant out

Edit: They shoot to kill because that is how they are trained. I honestly think officers aren't given enough slack, yes it is an important job, and yes the whole world watches your every move. But it is a very hard and stressful job. I would honestly like to see these "cop haters" do a better job. It's honestly you against the world as a police officer.


Police brutality is a thing. But the reason it is so prevalent is because that's all the media reports, you rarely hear news stories about how officers save peoples lives everyday. There are plenty of terrible cops out there, but there are far more good cops.

Double edit: whoops, I'm like triple double posting. O_o How do I fix it?

Miserabilia
June 27th, 2014, 02:03 PM
Edit: They shoot to kill because that is how they are trained. I honestly think officers aren't given enough slack, yes it is an important job, and yes the whole world watches your every move. But it is a very hard and stressful job. I would honestly like to see these "cop haters" do a better job. It's honestly you against the world as a police officer.


Police brutality is a thing. But the reason it is so prevalent is because that's all the media reports, you rarely hear news stories about how officers save peoples lives everyday. There are plenty of terrible cops out there, but there are far more good cops.

Double edit: whoops, I'm like triple double posting. O_o How do I fix it?

Yes it is due to their training, and it's prety damn awful.

I remember the video of a guy who hit a street light with his car,
and a cop (Who had a camera on him for some reason, it's 100% real though),
came to his house.
A woman was standing outside saying the guy was cutting himself and she was worried. Cop comes in, guy stands there with a knife and cuts on himself.
Cop says "put down the knife" (Guy is standing at the completely other side of the room, staring blankly ahead.)
Cop shoots him. 4 times. In the chest.
Guy dies.

JamesSuperBoy
June 27th, 2014, 02:18 PM
On the one hand, in most countries there will be the "media" be it Tv newspaper and now of course we have camera phones and CCTV adding to the trough. Our UK police are now considering getting water canon to cope with riots. I guess its the same as ever bad news makes news and more guns all round.

Babs
June 27th, 2014, 03:12 PM
Police brutality is a huge problem in America, and a big part of institutionalized racism. Google it, I promise that you'll find some appalling footage of police officers being extremely violent for no reason, or give tickets out of spite. But no one who can do anything about it cares about police brutality.
The police in my town don't give a fuck. My brother deliberately sped in front of a cop to see what he would do. He didn't get pulled over.
They also neglect to obey the traffic laws. Numerous times I have seen them not use their turn signals and take up two parking spaces and a lot of other shit. I may be overreacting but if it is your job to enforce the law, you need to follow it yourself.

Jean Poutine
June 27th, 2014, 04:06 PM
Here in Quebec City, there are not much problems with the cops, they aren't very violent since nothing happens here. Problems have more to do with the law and some SPVQ (service de police de la ville de Québec) directives regarding the enforcement of some of these laws.

In Montreal though, cops are crazy if you're Muslim, Black or Latino or a student. Ironically I think the cops hate students more than minorities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Quebec_student_protests)

thatcountrykid
June 27th, 2014, 04:54 PM
Is police brutality a problem in your country? I think it is in America. I know that most cops are good, but a lot of them seem to think that they're above the law.

Seriously, if a foreigner were to watch the show "cops" for any amount if time he would think this is some sort of police state. 80% of what they do on there is just tazing nonviolent druggies and slamming them into the ground for interrupting them.

But what's even worse is the way the media almost never reports police brutality. Probably because it's so common. I can point to thousands of stories from independent news sites about police brutality in America. But of course since the judge and cops are usually all buddybudddy, these cases almost never get through.

How are things in your country?

Honestly you don't even know what they have to watch out for and work about. The job is extremely dangerous.


God it pisses me off so fucking bad because you people don't know shit of what happens to them or the job they do. You don't know the laws and most of you don't realize that they are people and they are gonna go home to their families.

Living For Love
June 27th, 2014, 05:14 PM
Here we don't have much problems as far as police brutality is concerned, except in some problematic neighbourhoods run by immigrant gangs who do nothing but stealing and mugging people on the street and then decide to act like victims when the police beats up their ass. Apart from that, it's normal.

Gamma Male
June 27th, 2014, 05:19 PM
Honestly you don't even know what they have to watch out for and work about. The job is extremely dangerous.


God it pisses me off so fucking bad because you people don't know shit of what happens to them or the job they do. You don't know the laws and most of you don't realize that they are people and they are gonna go home to their families.

I realize cops go through a lot of stress, and have to put themselves in danger often, but that still doesn't excuse slamming people into the ground for interrupting you.
Like it or now, police brutality is a problem.


I think its funny how conservatives hate every branch of the government except the police and military.

Stronk Serb
June 27th, 2014, 05:34 PM
Here you don't want to piss off a cop. His pay is shit and his boss and/or assignment is riding him all day, be a wannabe deliquent teenager in front of him amd he can send you to a hospital AND walk away with it. They usually don't care about petty stuff, like teens with beer , weed or cigars, just hand over the weed if you have it when they ask you and they'll go away, if they find it on you, you are fucking dead, and when you question or undermine their authority, you are dead too. There are good cops too. On the Iron Maiden concert last week an angry mob pushed me against a cop because they didn't let us in on time. He could've pulled me out and arrested me for disturbing the peace, which I was technically doing, albeit involuntarily because a mob of assholes was pushing me against him. Instead he pulled me out and told me that I can go to the concert. Most of them can read off your eyes if you are a wannabe deliquent, lying etc. They never did me any harm, because I behave and don't start shit with them. One slap across the head and it'll be ringing inside for hours, maybe days.

Miserabilia
June 27th, 2014, 05:36 PM
Honestly you don't even know what they have to watch out for and work about. The job is extremely dangerous.


I have seen things, and I know.


God it pisses me off so fucking bad because you people don't know shit

Hot damn son chill we're trying to have a discussion here.


You don't know the laws and most of you don't realize that they are people and they are gonna go home to their families.

Oh really?
On what do you base this?
I think we pretty much all realize.
What about people who only did a minor offence (Speeding, for example) and panicked, resulting in cops shooting them to death?
These incidents happen all over the usa daily.

What about their families???

Vlerchan
June 27th, 2014, 05:38 PM
Cheese, in the US, because of the lax gun-laws, cops have to deal with the issue of every suspect being a potential gun-man.

I don't blame them for being a bit on edge.

---

I've always found the gardí in Ireland to be grand.

thatcountrykid
June 27th, 2014, 06:04 PM
I realize cops go through a lot of stress, and have to put themselves in danger often, but that still doesn't excuse slamming people into the ground for interrupting you.
Like it or now, police brutality is a problem.


I think its funny how conservatives hate every branch of the government except the police and military.

I don't hate the government. It's more than what the camera and what you see. Yes some cases happen all officers will agree to that but people over react to things that are necessary.

I have seen things, and I know.



Hot damn son chill we're trying to have a discussion here.



Oh really?
On what do you base this?
I think we pretty much all realize.
What about people who only did a minor offence (Speeding, for example) and panicked, resulting in cops shooting them to death?
These incidents happen all over the usa daily.



What about their families???

No matter what incident or situation things can go bad. An officer cannot risk himself because oh this person is afraid of paying a ticket and freak and becomes a serious threat.

I know an officer who had to shoot a man. He was on my dad's shift and I talked to him a lot about it. He told me the only thing he felt horrible for is that mans family. He tore himself up over.

I base it off the fact that I know this first hand and I can see you guys usually don't. It what videos you see that must be true cause the people who post it say so.

Merged double post. -Cygnus David

Harry Smith
June 28th, 2014, 04:22 AM
No matter what incident or situation things can go bad.

Merged double post. -Cygnus David

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CosmicNoodle
June 28th, 2014, 04:32 AM
I'll trade ya. ;)

Dice, at least your police are able to controle a crowd.

Gamma Male
June 28th, 2014, 12:05 PM
Dice, at least your police are able to controle a crowd.

Sure, if by control you mean beat and shoot with mace.


That nonviolent protester just sneezed! QUICK! GET UM!!!

CosmicNoodle
June 28th, 2014, 12:47 PM
Sure, if by control you mean beat and shoot with mace.


That nonviolent protester just sneezed! QUICK! GET UM!!!

As is the way in 'Murica