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TheN3rdyOutcast
June 27th, 2014, 08:17 AM
I recently learned that the full acronym is LGBTQAI, which stands for
Lesbian
Gay or Genderqueer
Bisexual
Transsexual or Transgender
Questioning or Queer
Asexual and Ally
Intersex
Which ones of these catergories do you identify as?
Magg
June 27th, 2014, 08:24 AM
I'm bi, but that also means i'm a lesbian.
TheN3rdyOutcast
June 27th, 2014, 08:32 AM
Question, what means "LGBT ally"?
Someone who is supportive of someone you know that is LGBT
Elysium
June 27th, 2014, 09:25 AM
I've seen some debate over whether or not the A should actually stand for "ally," since allies are cishet and aren't really part of the non-heterosexual or non-cisgender umbrella. But, to each their own.
I would fall under the category of queer.
Luminous
June 27th, 2014, 09:54 AM
LGBTQAI isn't the full acronym, there are lots of different ones longer than LGBT, but it is one of the extended acronyms. Most people just use LGBT but not just to cover lesbian, gay, bi, and transgender, but instead to cover anything that isn't straight or cis.
Anyways, of the list you gave, I guess I fall under lesbian, gay, and queer, so those are the ones I chose. If I label myself, I usually use gay.
CassnovA
June 27th, 2014, 11:33 AM
i hate things like this. who is an ally of the gays? that is something that should just come natural out of respect for your fellow human. do i need to be an ally of blacks, jews and women too? all seems too pushy.
Melodic
June 27th, 2014, 11:51 AM
I'm a LGBT ally and somewhat Asexual.
Babs
June 27th, 2014, 03:05 PM
Ithe A in LGBTQIA+ does not stand for ally. They didn't call it the Black and Black ally Panthers, did they?
Allies are great supporters and it's important that we have them, however if they are cishet why would they be included in an acronym meant for people who weren't cis or hetero?
Anyway, I chose gay and queer, I guess I should have clicked lesbian too but I didn't for some reason. It's too late now though.
sqishy
June 28th, 2014, 05:39 PM
Gay and Bi-Curious
dirtyboxer55
June 28th, 2014, 08:21 PM
why so many terms
Babs
June 28th, 2014, 09:20 PM
why so many terms
Because there's a lot of different sexual orientations.
Karkat
June 28th, 2014, 10:50 PM
I didn't include gay or lesbian when I added the options, nor did I include trans, however I guess I sort of fall under these as well.
-Bisexual (sort of)
-Asexual (sort of)
-Queer
-Genderqueer
Abyssal Echo
June 28th, 2014, 10:55 PM
I'm gay
Camazotz
June 28th, 2014, 11:27 PM
I'm an ally :)
dirtyboxer55
June 29th, 2014, 01:36 AM
Because there's a lot of different sexual orientations.
but how is gay different than queer and questioning different from bisexual
Karkat
June 29th, 2014, 02:00 AM
but how is gay different than queer and questioning different from bisexual
Queer can be related to gender or sexuality. It's a vague term. And I feel like just about every bisexual person in the world would be infuriated if you called them questioning. Bisexuality =\= questioning. Questioning = questioning. Bisexuality, like heterosexuality, or homosexuality are solid labels you put on your sexuality if you're sure of it. If you're any one of those three, you can be that for the rest of your life (if you feel you've learned enough about yourself to come to that conclusion). No one's gonna carry around "questioning" for the rest of their lives. Questioning typically means you're a teenager who is dealing with hormones and sexual discovery, and does not know what feels right yet.
Would also like to note that back in regards to queer, people would get pissed off if I tried to call myself a lesbian or transgender. Therefore, I am queer in both senses. Technically, the LGBT community loves to hate me in general but I don't really give a fuck.
Cognizant
June 29th, 2014, 02:13 AM
Queer can be related to gender or sexuality. It's a vague term. And I feel like just about every bisexual person in the world would be infuriated if you called them questioning. Bisexuality =\= questioning. Questioning = questioning. Bisexuality, like heterosexuality, or homosexuality are solid labels you put on your sexuality if you're sure of it. If you're any one of those three, you can be that for the rest of your life (if you feel you've learned enough about yourself to come to that conclusion). No one's gonna carry around "questioning" for the rest of their lives. Questioning typically means you're a teenager who is dealing with hormones and sexual discovery, and does not know what feels right yet.
I'm questioning my sexuality, but for simplicities sake, I call myself bisexual. I say that because you're right, questioning doesn't quite count as a big brand label. It'd be like taking a car for a test drive. You're driving it, but that doesn't exactly mean you own it.
I go by both because when I came out a year and a half ago, I felt I was certain that I was sexually attracted to both guys and girls equally. The thing is as I gained more experience with romantic relationships and sexual encounters, what I liked shifted because my mental bias shifted (a.k.a. since I only really hooked up with guys in previous experience, my mind is more biased towards sexual encounters with guys instead of girls). So, to add on to my car analogy: you can choose to buy the car after you test drive it, but it is indeed possible that you end up hating the car so you go test drive a new one. It's then up to you to decide whether to buy the new car or to stick with the old.
Also, sexuality doesn't quite cover the whole story for me, as I have no clue what I like romantically. Definitely guys, but I think there might be a chance that I romantically like (and in turn be able to date) girls.
sorry if I'm rambling, it's late here :P
Karkat
June 29th, 2014, 02:29 AM
I'm questioning my sexuality, but for simplicities sake, I call myself bisexual. I say that because you're right, questioning doesn't quite count as a big brand label. It'd be like taking a car for a test drive. You're driving it, but that doesn't exactly mean you own it.
I go by both because when I came out a year and a half ago, I felt I was certain that I was sexually attracted to both guys and girls equally. The thing is as I gained more experience with romantic relationships and sexual encounters, what I liked shifted because my mental bias shifted (a.k.a. since I only really hooked up with guys in previous experience, my mind is more biased towards sexual encounters with guys instead of girls). So, to add on to my car analogy: you can choose to buy the car after you test drive it, but it is indeed possible that you end up hating the car so you go test drive a new one. It's then up to you to decide whether to buy the new car or to stick with the old.
Also, sexuality doesn't quite cover the whole story for me, as I have no clue what I like romantically. Definitely guys, but I think there might be a chance that I romantically like (and in turn be able to date) girls.
sorry if I'm rambling, it's late here :P
Well I occasionally call myself bisexual for simplicity's sake as well :P
However, I know that bisexuality is commonly seen as "a phase" and not a valid sexuality, which is what I was getting at. Bisexuality is indeed valid. It is not questioning, the two are worlds apart. Hell, you can be a questioning asexual. That's not bisexual, that's not even close.
But yeah, that was what I was trying to get at as well :P It's late here too, I feel ya
Ethe14
June 29th, 2014, 02:40 AM
I'm bi but every now and then I think I might be fully gay, but for now I just say I'm bi. It makes my passion of labeling things easier.
Rayquaza
June 29th, 2014, 08:54 AM
I prefer to use the acronym LGBT+ seeing as it doesn't dissociate from the initial LGBT and the use of the + incorperates all other queer sexualities.
Babs
June 29th, 2014, 02:06 PM
but how is gay different than queer and questioning different from bisexual
Queer is just an umbrella term for no straight. Questioning is just questioning your sexuality and doesn't mean bisexual.
dirtyboxer55
June 29th, 2014, 07:29 PM
Queer is just an umbrella term for no straight. Questioning is just questioning your sexuality and doesn't mean bisexual.
so if queer youre queer then you must be either l,g,b or t? so why not just go by one of those? :confused:
Luminous
June 29th, 2014, 07:42 PM
so if queer youre queer then you must be either l,g,b or t? so why not just go by one of those? :confused:
No, if you're queer you could be anything besides straight, not just lesbian, gay, bi, or transgender. They might feel like a mix of different labels or like they don't fit correctly into one. Basically, if you're not straight, you're queer (assuming that's how you identify. Everyone has the right to choose their own labels).
dirtyboxer55
June 30th, 2014, 12:09 AM
No, if you're queer you could be anything besides straight, not just lesbian, gay, bi, or transgender. They might feel like a mix of different labels or like they don't fit correctly into one. Basically, if you're not straight, you're queer (assuming that's how you identify. Everyone has the right to choose their own labels).
this is really confusing. if a guy transgender (w/o operation or transition) considers themselves a woman and they like women does that make them lesbian or straight? what about after a transition or operation?
Karkat
June 30th, 2014, 12:26 AM
this is really confusing. if a guy transgender (w/o operation or transition) considers themselves a woman and they like women does that make them lesbian or straight? what about after a transition or operation?
Sexuality is about biological sex, so whatever their genitals are. If someone who is biologically female is attracted to biological females, they are homosexual. Those who are transgender just may label themselves as "queer" instead.
Babs
June 30th, 2014, 03:03 AM
Sexuality is about biological sex, so whatever their genitals are. If someone who is biologically female is attracted to biological females, they are homosexual. Those who are transgender just may label themselves as "queer" instead.
I disagree. Sexuality isn't necessarily about biological sex. How someone identifies may be based upon their sex (biological) or gender (psychological). Its entirely their choice and may vary from person to person. for example, an FTM transgender person may want to identify as a lesbian until they have fully transitioned, however another might be uncomfortable because they don't identify as female so they don't, because they are in no way obligated to use terms indicative of womanhood.
Karkat
June 30th, 2014, 03:25 AM
I disagree. Sexuality isn't necessarily about biological sex. How someone identifies may be based upon their sex (biological) or gender (psychological). Its entirely their choice and may vary from person to person. for example, an FTM transgender person may want to identify as a lesbian until they have fully transitioned, however another might be uncomfortable because they don't identify as female so they don't, because they are in no way obligated to use terms indicative of womanhood.
Which is why they might want to use "gay" or "queer" instead. Someone who is heterosexual by definition likes someone of the opposite sex, someone who is homosexual likes someone of the same sex.
I mean yes, to some extent, it is up to them, but they'd be technically incorrect to call themselves heterosexual if they had not yet transitioned.
chiisaiaoiryu
July 28th, 2014, 12:54 PM
I'm questioning my sexuality, but for simplicities sake, I call myself bisexual. I say that because you're right, questioning doesn't quite count as a big brand label. It'd be like taking a car for a test drive. You're driving it, but that doesn't exactly mean you own it.
I go by both because when I came out a year and a half ago, I felt I was certain that I was sexually attracted to both guys and girls equally. The thing is as I gained more experience with romantic relationships and sexual encounters, what I liked shifted because my mental bias shifted (a.k.a. since I only really hooked up with guys in previous experience, my mind is more biased towards sexual encounters with guys instead of girls). So, to add on to my car analogy: you can choose to buy the car after you test drive it, but it is indeed possible that you end up hating the car so you go test drive a new one. It's then up to you to decide whether to buy the new car or to stick with the old.
Also, sexuality doesn't quite cover the whole story for me, as I have no clue what I like romantically. Definitely guys, but I think there might be a chance that I romantically like (and in turn be able to date) girls.
sorry if I'm rambling, it's late here :P
I like your analogy. It makes perfect sense.
For me, I don't know what I identify with. I can't say bi since I don't really have any kind of sexual pangs when it comes to women. Gay doesn't seem to work because, despite having messed around with guys a few times, I can't see myself in a relationship with them. Under this scope, I'm not sure exactly which term would apply for me. I'd be biased in taking gay sex if you gave me a choice on straight or gay, but I don't necessarily identify with any kind of sexual tag.
CharlieHorse
July 28th, 2014, 01:16 PM
Why do we need an acronym for it? Why not just be attracted to whoever you're attracted to?
And apparently the acronym is like 50-some more letters long to accommodate everyone's orientation/sexuality/gender.
Babs
July 28th, 2014, 03:22 PM
Why do we need an acronym for it? Why not just be attracted to whoever you're attracted to?
And apparently the acronym is like 50-some more letters long to accommodate everyone's orientation/sexuality/gender.
Because sometimes labels are helpful and the acronym is there for non-hetero orientations for talking about sexuality and stuff. Usually there is a plus sign so as to not having to type a million letters.
backjruton
July 29th, 2014, 07:29 PM
Well... I just put
gay, bi, questioning and asexual
basically, I have absolutely no idea... still :rolleyes::)
Bmble_B
July 31st, 2014, 03:23 PM
I identify as Gay
(I also chose LGBT ally since when I used to deny my sexuality, I still was supportive of LGBT's and still am.)
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