Vatican Increases Number Of Mortal Sins

[redcar]

If you want to avoid an afterlife of hellfire and damnation you will now have to do more than obey the Ten Commandments.

The Vatican has extended its list of mortal sins to include 21st century issues such as genetic experimentation, pollution, social injustice, drug abuse and excessive wealth.

Published in the Vatican's official newspaper L'Osservatore Romano the extended list was revealed at the end of a week long refresher course for priests on the sacrament of confession.

According to the Roman Catholic faith a mortal sin must be confessed to a priest and if not absolved or forgiven, will lead to a person's soul being condemned to Hell after death.

Traditionally mortal sins are those which are a breach of the Commandments - murder, adultery, stealing and lying to name but a few.
The new sins were revealed by Gianfranco Girotti, bishop in charge of the Apostolic Penitentiary, the Vatican Department which deals with the forgiveness of sins.

Monsignor Girotti, 70, said: ''The reference for sin is the violation of Man's relationship with God and his fellow Man.

''Today there are various new sins which concern the rights of the individual and society and above all these are in the field of bioethics.
''Within this there are several fundamental violations of nature taking place - experiments, genetic manipulation, which are very difficult to control.

''Socially there is the field of drugs which weaken both intelligence and physically, leaving many youngsters outside the ecclesiastical (church) circuit.

''Then elsewhere socially we have inequality of wealth with the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer, this in turns feeds an ever growing social injustice.''

Monsignor Girotti led the confession refresher corse because surveys had revealed that the number of people going was declining.

Many said they felt that they ''found it difficult to talk'' to priests about their sin with some saying they feared a severe reprimand.

Monsignor Girotti said the aim of the course had been to teach priests to be less aggressive and more understanding in the confessional box.

[Whisper]

The Vatican bitches about excessive wealth HA!
That's rich

[Atonement]

Catholicism is so off the Christian moral track in my eyes. We dont need priests to talk to God FOR us. We can do that yourselves. And the fact that they think they can make LAWS about faith that they really shouldnt have any control over in teh first place, is ridiculous

[redcar]

Priests don't talk to God for us. They are there to celebrate mass and to carry out other functions.

[Atonement]

Well, no, I stated that wrong, priests dont talk to God for us, but appearently they need to cover that gap for forgiveness and why can we just go straight to God. Especially when that is what the Bible says.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

The Vatican bitches about excessive wealth HA!
That's rich

haha, yea, I burst out laughing in class when I read that:P

[Patchy]

Vatican are the worse for riches.

arent they like one of the richest businesses in the world? by that I mean the catholic church

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Yea, they have priests that make more than Televangelists in America!:rolleyes:

[redcar]

The Vatican are very wealthy because of what they have. They have so much priceless art and what not, but they can't sell most of it or any of it. I believe there is a law preventing the sale of religious artifacts, an internal law that is.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

So all the mansions and cars come from this art?:rolleyes:

[redcar]

I didn't say that. What I did say is they have a lot of priceless art, which on their balance sheet makes them look extremly wealthy, but this wealth they can't do anything with. My point, they are wealthy but people view them as being a lot more wealthy than they actually are.

[The Batman]

People mainly donate to the vatican church and since when was the pope mobile a luxurious commodity

[sophies_justice]

great they extended the list?! completely haven't heard that yet. now i have more to confess. oh great.

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[Sugaree]

Another reason of how the Vatican fucks up :)

This is just full blown bullshit. I mean now I have to go back and learn more deadly sins. It's not just that, it's that they think that they rule everything. I mean I do support the pope and his decisions but with this happening I just don't know anymore

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Legalbeagle, if you are a Catholic, they DO rule everything. Thats sort of the point. They are the ones that communicate with "god". It wasnt an old man who wrote up these new sins, it was "god". SO you better learn em' and confess, or else you will burn in hell for eternity:rolleyes:

[Sugaree]

As a Christian I find that very offensive Yuri. Look I understand your views and everything but I was brough up to believe that there is a God and there is a devil. And I am not prepared to put that behind me.

So if you could lay down on things like that I would much appreciate it. And I know that the pope was a Nazi but no one can say that he turned his life around and he's a pope. I'm sorry but some of the Vatican's decisions are a little bit stronge to me.

I also don't think that they "rule everything" like you said. I'm not as dumb as other Catholics are in saying "Oh the Vatican is all knowing! All powerful!" The problem is is that Catholics have really let go of their religion and Catholocism is really going to dust.

[The Batman]

Legalbeagle, if you are a Catholic, they DO rule everything. Thats sort of the point. They are the ones that communicate with "god". It wasnt an old man who wrote up these new sins, it was "god". SO you better learn em' and confess, or else you will burn in hell for eternity:rolleyes:

And if you had any kind of respect for him or us you would respect other people's religious views nobody asked for your sarcasm and we don't go around insulting atheism.

[redcar]

I mean now I have to go back and learn more deadly sins.
Don't worry they aren't more deadly sins, just mortal sins. Although mortal sins are worse, the deadly sins are just vice's.

They are the ones that communicate with "god".
They aren't the only ones. Everyone has the ability to communicate with God.

And I know that the pope was a Nazi
He was a member of the Nazi Youth, as were nearly all German youths at that time.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I wasnt insulting anyone, or trying to be sarcastic, sorry if I conveyed it that way. ANd I dont need to respect them; What I will do is tolerate them. But Legalbeagle, isnt what you are saying blasphemous? The Vatican is all knowing because they get their stuff from god, and if he didnt like what the Vatican was doing somethign bad would happen. Sorry If I offended anyone, I really didnt purposefully do that (And thanks for the great post Redcar)

[redcar]

ANd I dont need to respect them; What I will do is tolerate them.
Are you referring to the Catholic Church or followers of it? Either way they are one and the same and that is not a great attitude to have.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I was talking about religion in general. I dont see why I need to respect things I see as foolish and detrimental to mankind. I tolerate the crazy man on the street, I dont respect him(Just an anology, Im not calling Christians, Muslims, etc. crazy:)) (Also, how can someone attack or insult atheism?)

[redcar]

Not a particularly good analogy.

I am guessing you are not expecting respect from people then?

I don't agree with your beliefs but I respect them, because you as a fellow equal human being made that choice. I respect that you made that choice. To lack respect is a very bad thing, and to base it on religious views is even worse.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I do not respect people because they are religious or not, but because of their character. I respect the person, not the beliefs.

[The Batman]

You might think you respect someone but if you don't respect their beliefs than how do you truly respect someone. I respect you and your beliefs even though I am christian and your athiest because who am I to say that your religion is wrong no one in the world truly knows if there is a god or not so why should I disrespect any religion. But if you can't respect my beliefs why should I respect you?

[Zephyr]

Oh Vatican, oh Vatican...
The world's most closed mind.

(Don't take that too personaly, just a spoof of the "Oh Ratigan" song from 'The Great Mouse Detective' mixed with my opinion)

I liked the former pope better... even if I'm not religious. He was more open-minded.
This new one seems to not understand that we're only human.

[japanman]

wow al we need to do is use commen sense.
aswith respect IT is when you are ok with who a person is NO MATTER WHAT

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

You might think you respect someone but if you don't respect their beliefs than how do you truly respect someone. I respect you and your beliefs even though I am christian and your athiest because who am I to say that your religion is wrong no one in the world truly knows if there is a god or not so why should I disrespect any religion. But if you can't respect my beliefs why should I respect you?

Respect is something that is earned, not given. My friends have earned my respect through their actions, whether they are religious or not. I have gone to church with them and their families. I respect them and their beliefs, and actively participate in them. I just dont personally agree. I get into debates with them, and that sort of thing, but we all respect and love eachother. I respect people, religions, etc. that have earned it. Frankly, I have no problem with most Christians. As long as you dont yell at me, try to convert me, or shove your religion in my face, I respect you, and have no problem with you:)

[Whisper]

wow al we need to do is use commen sense.
aswith respect IT is when you are ok with who a person is NO MATTER WHAT
No thats acceptance, tolerance

Respect is completely different
And it is earned
never given

[tombstonequeen]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH
anything but this
hearing about sins and this stuff makes my mind hurt

[The Batman]

The thing about it is I was born and raised in what you would call a bible belt because the whole town was religious and who ever wasn't didn't care so this is something very personal to me and when you started insulting religion it felt sorta like a slap in the face and i took it personally even though you might not have meant it that way. Religion has given me faith, patience, compassion, and has generally made me a better person but religion does have a dark side I won't deny that. My point is that you shouldn't base your whole concept of religion on just one side of events you have to look at the whole picture. Here's some advice do some reesarch.

[Maverick]

My point is that you shouldn't base your whole concept of religion on just one side of events you have to look at the whole picture. Here's some advice do some reesarch.I agree with you there Thomas.

[tombstonequeen]

i feel so sorry for you tommy

[japanman]

No thats acceptance, tolerance

Respect is completely different
And it is earned
never given

oops sry :whoops: lol i guess i just got to hot headed lol thanks tho.

[Sugaree]

Respect is something that is earned, not given. My friends have earned my respect through their actions

Well that's because they are your friends and not the people you don't know. I'm sorry but it's just not that good of an attitude to have.

And yes respect is earned not given but you also have to see how your disrespect affects people

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I dont openly disrespect random people. I get to know them, and at that point I usually respect them. I cant remember ever disrespecting someone I know

[RaisingSand]

The Vatican bitches about excessive wealth HA!
That's rich

My thoughts exactly. XD