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Cats123
June 16th, 2014, 01:10 AM
The title makes this sound like it's not puberty related, but I assure you it is!

Anyway, I used to drink loads of soy milk at the beginning of this year, and then I would eat lots of flax seeds (even though I never actually digested the hard shells). Well I found out that soy milk and flax seeds have a lot of estrogen imitating molecules in them, and I still do and used to eat loads of bread, and now I'm finding out that has high estrogen levels too. WTF! I want to eat certain foods, and will eating these foods supply me with so much estrogen that certain things will start to happen? Should I just stay away from these foods FOREVER? Is it even more dangerous because of puberty? Lastly, as I don't really think it did anything what effects could have already happened? Are these foods actually bad for me to eat or is it all just hype?

targaryen101
June 16th, 2014, 03:44 AM
look, every food will have something that effects us in one way or another, if you like eating these foods for whatever reason, thats fine but (just like you need to with the food groups) balance your diet, eat red meats high in iron that is more energy, that guys and girls need. other foods high in testosterone are garlic, Banana's Brazil nuts. Nuts are really good for Semen count and testosterone and other "guy things" haha. Or just take multivitamins with testosterone that are made for teenage boys. Eating foods high in Oestrogen (sorry its spelled differently I am an Australian) wont dissolve your penis haha but overdoing it can cause some changes, like, if a man takes oestrogen tablets, the pill, menopause medication etc: they can develop bigger breasts, higer voice, less hair. So do what you want but just keep a balance. like you would with everyday foods. (Sorry that was so long and I am NO expert)

Hermes
June 16th, 2014, 08:27 AM
I can see your thinking - you don't want excessive estrogen or estrogen analogues to slow down puberty or make you less masculine but is can get pretty complicated.

The sex hormones are chemically quite similar and can be converted from one to the other. It is normal for guys to have some estrogen in their blood and the skeletal growth spurt and finishing growing is actually controlled by estrogen. Girls finish their growth earlier, and end up shorter, primarily because they have higher levels of estrogen than guys.

Now, onto the foods. There have been various scares around estrogen in foods. Previously the well known example was estogen used to fatten animals prior to slaughter. What I am not sure we know is hown much of the estrogen in food consumed is absorbed.

One of the processes a pharmacetical company has to go through once they have found a new compound that has some thereputic effect is to work out how to get it into the body. Products taken orally (tablets and syrups) are popular and convenient to they like to use this route when they can but sometimes it takes a bit of chemical engineering to get the drug into a form where it is absorbed by the digestive system rather than passing through or being destroyed by the digestive system. For some they never succeed and the resulting drug has to be taken another way, for example IV.

I am pretty sure testosterone is not easily absorbed from the digestive system because there was a chap on here or over at GovTeen who was having testosterone injections and I bet they wouldn't go to that trouble if they could give him tablets instead.

Some forms of estogen obviously can be absorbed as this is how at least one of the contraceptive pills works.

We really need a proper scientific investigation. We can't trust the food industry to be honest and while their are doubtless many good nutritionalists there are also plenty of quacks.

ksdnfkfr
June 16th, 2014, 08:46 AM
A thing with autism which I have is a bunch of stuff about normal food effecting behavior blah blah blah, and after a lot of experimenting with different dietary deals, we've come to the conclusion it's all hype. Stuff like soy and flax aren't going to effect you in any odd way, unless you have some food allergy or intolerance or whatever. It's not going to do anything to your puberty hormones. It's just soy and flax seed and wheat/gluten. That's the one that's got the most BS hype is gluten.

sixguy6
June 16th, 2014, 08:48 AM
I don't rly known what that'll do to you but just keep it down

valamar
June 26th, 2014, 01:02 PM
I have nooooo idea