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dontfiguremeout
June 1st, 2014, 09:10 PM
Alrighty guys! Is college worth it? Like is it worth all the money that you have to spend for it? Or is it better not dealing with the money and go right away into a job/career after hs skipping college?

Gamma Male
June 1st, 2014, 09:18 PM
Yeah, it's totally worth it as long as you don't get some useless degree like comparative literature or women's studies or theology or some other bullshit.

CosmicNoodle
June 1st, 2014, 09:20 PM
Provided its a useful qualification, and not some random useless BS the yes its worth it.

Camazotz
June 1st, 2014, 09:34 PM
If you can afford it, I definitely encourage higher education for everyone. If not for the opportunities for higher-paying jobs, just learning itself is invaluable.

Syvelocin
June 1st, 2014, 10:20 PM
It depends heavily on your aspirations. There have been very many successful drop-outs for instance, and depending on your field of study you may get more out of using those years using them to hone your skill. Typically though, yeah, it's worth it.

Yeah, it's totally worth it as long as you don't get some useless degree like comparative literature or women's studies or theology or some other bullshit.

Also depends. Many jobs don't require a specific major, but how much success you'll get with jobs like that isn't very certain. Making a corresponding job from the less useful degrees is much more difficult though, yes. If Women's Studies is your one and only calling, I would recommend you pursue it (although I'd recommend minoring in it instead) and I'm saying that as a BA psych major lol.

Faolan
June 1st, 2014, 10:32 PM
College graduates make on average 84% more than high school graduates over the course of a lifetime. Even if you major in something that's in a low-paying field, it's still worth it to go to college. The educational experience opens your mind to new perspectives, the diploma looks good on job applications, and you will most likely be better organized and better at getting things done on time. It's totally worth it.

IAMWILL
June 1st, 2014, 10:42 PM
It is if either:

A) you're attempting to go into a high paying field (business, engineering, medical, etc)

B) its relatively cheap (by way of scholarships, loans, etc. I'm talking <20k a year total)

or C) the college specializes in a trade or field (ie diesel mechanic college, Cal Maritime Acadmey, construction management, etc).

I have friends who are paying ~40-60k a year to go to private schools where they're majoring in journalism/psych/communications or other high-unemployment and low pay areas. College is not worth it for that type of money. I know it sounds harsh but honestly I would recommend people just go to trade schools if they don't aspire to work in the professional/management field. Skilled labor/management of skilled labor pays excellently in most situations anyway.

Last year I had a choice of going to University of San Diego (wouldve cost my family ~43k a year) or staying local and going to community college for 2 years before trying to transfer. I choose the latter and just finished my first year, which in total cost me 2 grand. TWO GRAND. I have one more year there to get the credits I need and then I will transfer to a UC school, hopefully Cal Berkeley. I'm in business btw. I think this is one of the best options because its cheap but you can still pursue the field you're interested in.

TLDR: yes if in high-paying field and/or college is affordable, no if in low-paying field, skilled labor is always in demand and pays well.

Luisss
June 9th, 2014, 03:45 PM
Yes only a high school degree will get you no where in life.

tovaris
June 9th, 2014, 04:50 PM
Universety studies are free man, and anyone can ern enouth money to get by foodwhise... You might only need to live with youl falks a bit longer...

Jean Poutine
June 10th, 2014, 06:23 PM
There are no useless or worthless fields. If they thought philosophy was useless in Antiquity or during the Enlightenment we would be far backwards in terms of intellectual ability. Philosophy teaches one to think. It's the ultimate freedom. Humanities in general tend to churn out people with good communication skills and the ability to think critically. One can apply both of these to a wide range of jobs.

While it's true that there are fields that are less suitable to our current economic model, really, one can make everything work if one works enough for it. Sure, a BA in Anthropology probably won't land you any jobs in your field...that's because for most humanities you need a doctorate to be able to do anything decent. That's because since humanities usually don't require high test scores or any prerequisite classes, there's a lot of people signing up for these that actually really have no business being in college at all, and higher degrees in these fields separate the wheat from the chaff. I'm pretty sure we know this one dude who thinks he's hot shit because he studies philosophy in college, keeps trying to name drop and quote authors, and it always turns out hilariously wrong because of a lack of ability to understand exactly what he's studying (it might work on bar wenches, though). In fact, the degrees before that are like primary school in their respective fields, and if somebody is willing to invest that much time and money into something that they are really passionate about then I say more power to them. If it's worthwhile to them, why should we care? If we didn't have anthropologists, how could we learn about the myriad of fascinating and too often unknown cultures on Earth?

There are a lot of people at my job with "useless" degrees and honestly I'm really sad for most of them because they couldn't drive their passion far enough to do anything more than push papers all day long, perhaps by lack of ability (masters and doctorates are hard work) or opportunity. Political science, tourism, anthropology...a lot of people where I work have these degrees and the jobs they hold are officially high school graduate level. I'm lucky my passion is always in demand. I don't think it's right to criticize people who do what they want to do, jobs be damned. If anything, they should be lauded. There's Ph.Ds out there writing silly self-help books for sure, but some might also turn out to be the next John Locke or Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

Camazotz
June 11th, 2014, 12:21 AM
There are no useless or worthless fields. If they thought philosophy was useless in Antiquity or during the Enlightenment we would be far backwards in terms of intellectual ability. Philosophy teaches one to think. It's the ultimate freedom. Humanities in general tend to churn out people with good communication skills and the ability to think critically. One can apply both of these to a wide range of jobs.

While it's true that there are fields that are less suitable to our current economic model, really, one can make everything work if one works enough for it. Sure, a BA in Anthropology probably won't land you any jobs in your field...that's because for most humanities you need a doctorate to be able to do anything decent. That's because since humanities usually don't require high test scores or any prerequisite classes, there's a lot of people signing up for these that actually really have no business being in college at all, and higher degrees in these fields separate the wheat from the chaff. I'm pretty sure we know this one dude who thinks he's hot shit because he studies philosophy in college, keeps trying to name drop and quote authors, and it always turns out hilariously wrong because of a lack of ability to understand exactly what he's studying (it might work on bar wenches, though). In fact, the degrees before that are like primary school in their respective fields, and if somebody is willing to invest that much time and money into something that they are really passionate about then I say more power to them. If it's worthwhile to them, why should we care? If we didn't have anthropologists, how could we learn about the myriad of fascinating and too often unknown cultures on Earth?

There are a lot of people at my job with "useless" degrees and honestly I'm really sad for most of them because they couldn't drive their passion far enough to do anything more than push papers all day long, perhaps by lack of ability (masters and doctorates are hard work) or opportunity. Political science, tourism, anthropology...a lot of people where I work have these degrees and the jobs they hold are officially high school graduate level. I'm lucky my passion is always in demand. I don't think it's right to criticize people who do what they want to do, jobs be damned. If anything, they should be lauded. There's Ph.Ds out there writing silly self-help books for sure, but some might also turn out to be the next John Locke or Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

:clap: Yes. Education is always worth it. If you have a passion and the determination to reach your goal, always go for it!

CharlieHorse
June 11th, 2014, 01:17 AM
society has come to a place where people look down on people who don't go to college. It's stupid, but it's just how it is. Most recommended it.

LouBerry
June 11th, 2014, 01:24 AM
Alrighty guys! Is college worth it? Like is it worth all the money that you have to spend for it? Or is it better not dealing with the money and go right away into a job/career after hs skipping college?

It's very much worth it, but it all depends on what you want to do. For example, if there is a job you really want to do, that requires a degree, it's beyond worth it to get one, because you'll never be happy otherwise/

Lovelife090994
June 11th, 2014, 02:18 PM
It's very much worth it, but it all depends on what you want to do. For example, if there is a job you really want to do, that requires a degree, it's beyond worth it to get one, because you'll never be happy otherwise/

True, I agree. My two cents, I look at college as worth it but not for everyone. Not every field requires college such as vocational studies. Sometimes people that haven't gone to college are very successful. However, if you want to make more money and have more education for a certain job then college is essential. Sadly in America, college prices are higher than the sky and you'll graduate with a ton of debt. I am attending college this fall for Graphic Communications... it isn't quite set in stone; the major.

bobbi
June 13th, 2014, 11:06 PM
It's worth it and you may get a better job with a college degree.