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The Batman
March 6th, 2008, 10:20 PM
I'm not sure if this is the right place so please move it if it's not. I don't agree with trans genders at all I find it disgusting actually but I don't like being closed minded about it. I really just don't like the fact that you decide you wanna be something else beside what you were born as and the idea of a man with fake boobs or a girl with hers surgically removed just gets to me a little and when i feel like this I know I'm no better than all of those gay bashers out there and I hate it. Can you guys please help me become more open minded about these things.
Gumleaf
March 6th, 2008, 10:45 PM
its hard for me to get my head around it because i'm very conservative when it comes to anything other then hetrosexuality. all you can do is accept that they feel that they are a better person for changing themselves in this way, and realise that this change will make their life happier for them. anyways, hope that makes sense.
Kaleidoscope Eyes
March 6th, 2008, 10:53 PM
Well, remember that a lot of transgendered people really do feel that they are the opposite gender, and simply want their outside to match their inside. Some people do simply decide they'd rather be the opposite gender, but a lot have always felt that they were born into the wrong body. They're not becoming a man with boobs, they're becoming a woman, and vice versa. Just be glad for them that they're able to make the changes they need in order to feel comfortable being themselves. When I first heard about it I was maybe 10, and I found a documentary on it on Discovery Channel. At first, I thought "Wait, people actually have surgery to change their gender? Since when?" but the more I watched the more I realized that it wasn't a cosmetic procedure, it was more like a correction. Just like if you somehow went through puberty and ended up with fully developed breasts, you'd want them removed, right? This is a similar situation.
chris__robin
March 9th, 2008, 06:39 PM
yeah its about people feeling displaced in their body, they believe that in their minds they may be one gender but physically arent the right one.
it can also be seen in a very young age, at least thats what i saw on oprah once. parents let their kids grow up looking like a girl even it they were born a boy, and the kids know how they feel and are happy.
The Batman
March 9th, 2008, 08:12 PM
At young ages besides dresses boys and girls don't really dress differently and I don't see how a child can differentiate between wanting to be a boy or girl
Kaleidoscope Eyes
March 9th, 2008, 08:41 PM
It's not about how they dress, although kids do dress differently based on gender, even the younger ones. A boy is more likely to wear jeans or shorts that go to about their knees, and t-shirts that are a little on the baggier side compared to girls shirts. Also, girls wear skirts and dresses, and their shorts are shorter. Guys don't wear white shirts with little pink flowers embroidered on them, or carry around Hello Kitty backpacks, and they certainly don't wear those little patent leather mary-janes to church. It's not that they just decide they want to be the opposite gender, like I said. They really feel that they are that gender. I can understand saying that small kids aren't likely to know their sexuality, but I would think it'd be fairly easy for a kid to say, "Hey, I look like a boy on the outside, but I don't like any of the things other boys like, I can't stand wearing boys' clothes, and in fact I feel right at home with the girls." Imagine being forced to be something you're not. Thomas, imagine being forced to be a girl. To dress like one, to act like one, to style your hair like one. Imagine being expected to go to prom in a poofy dress, and with a boy. Would you feel out of place? Would you want someone to realize that you're a boy?
Zephyr
March 9th, 2008, 09:18 PM
You can like them as a person,
Even if you don't support what they are doing to their body,
Being transgender is only one part of who they really are.
The Batman
March 9th, 2008, 09:33 PM
My cousin gets paid to cross dress at clubs but he doesn't do it on a daily basis and I'm cool with that but the thing that gets me is the people who over do it with the giant fake breats the over doing makeup and the huge sparkling dresses its like they want to be more of a girl than people born that way
Zephyr
March 9th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Well, by over doing it they're compensating for not being the real deal.
It's like making up for lost time I suppose, and it makes them feel good about themselves.
Kaleidoscope Eyes
March 9th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Thomas, that's called a drag queen, which is often associated more with gay men than MTF transgender. In fact, last I heard, in order to be eligible for a sex change operation you have to live as the opposite sex for a year without any serious hiccups. Going out in drag sounds like a hiccup to me, it makes it obvious that you're in fact male. I think that might be part of why they do it too. They're not trying to blend in as a woman, they're trying to act feminine in a fun way, and what's more fun than overdoing it? Also, you'll notice that most drag queens don't walk down the street that way, or go to work that way, it was my understanding that that was typically more of a club thing.
tombstonequeen
March 10th, 2008, 02:12 AM
hmm
well my thoughts on that is let em
their life let them do what they want
don't be necesarily closed minded about it just accept that its what ppl do
like joining the armed forces a religion
its a comentment they are doing
so don't worry about it
urs truly the tombstonequeen ashley
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