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Malcolm Tucker
March 3rd, 2008, 03:38 PM
Are you for or agains the death penalty? Discuss.

I personally am pro. Look at it this way. Would you rather that e.g. Your childrens' murderer. Say he was given life sentences. He could escape. Say he does, and does it again. Or he is given the death penalty.

I know that is very extreme. But think about it. I have always believed in an eye-for-an-eye. In most serious cases. Please don't call me on it.

NextToNormal
March 3rd, 2008, 04:38 PM
it all depends on the situation. if you are a murderer, you deserve to die...you do. but other situations would have to be carefully taken into consideration for the death penalty.

Patchy
March 3rd, 2008, 04:41 PM
Against death is the easy way out, being locked away for life means they can think about what they've done.

redcar
March 3rd, 2008, 04:44 PM
Death is too easy and quick. Give them life. Take away the life they took away from someone else and make them suffer.

Whisper
March 3rd, 2008, 05:15 PM
Pro

There is NO accountability anymore
you can get away with anything in our politically correct system
The most brutal serial killer/rapist in all of Canadian history
Robert Pickton can be out of jail in 6yrs if hes a good boy


We've found evidence that hes brutally raped tortured and murdered 49 young women

6yrs

Atonement
March 3rd, 2008, 05:20 PM
Pro

There is NO accountability anymore
you can get away with anything in our politically correct system
The most brutal serial killer/rapist in all of Canadian history
Robert Pickton can be out of jail in 6yrs if hes a good boy


We've found evidence that hes brutally raped tortured and murdered 49 young women

6yrs

Exactly why I support it. People need to be held accountable. Great example too!

*Dissident*
March 3rd, 2008, 08:39 PM
The example of that man getting 6 years instead of multiple life sentences is a question of the canadian justice system, not pros of capital punishment vs. cons.

Does that man deserve death? Yes. but, is it our job to do it to him? I dont think so. We can however give him life in a high security federal prison in solitary isolation, no parole. that is an adequate solution and deterrent to me.

The law is blind. Asking whether you would support the death penalty if it was your brother/sister son/daughter mother/father is not fair. The family members of those accused to not make the decision, so why should those of the victims? a random, impartial jury looking at the facts and being fair.

God does not give us the right to kill. We were not bestowed eachother's lives. Therefore, we cannot take the life away from someone.

Hauptmann Kauffman
March 3rd, 2008, 09:24 PM
I think that there aer just some people who deserve death, and without a death penalty, there would be no way to justfully accomplish that

theOperaGhost
March 3rd, 2008, 09:34 PM
I'm all for holding someone in prison for life so they can think about what they've done, but I voted pro, because it costs a lot to hold someone in prison, and our taxes pay for that.

Hauptmann Kauffman
March 3rd, 2008, 09:38 PM
You know, It actually causes more to go for the death penalty than life in prison? It takes 5+ years to get through all the appeals, complaints, etc! Millions spent, all to execute one person! Seriously, just the killing itself is 2+ million!

theOperaGhost
March 3rd, 2008, 09:43 PM
Good point, I guess I never considered that. Have you ever heard of Dru Sjudin(spl?) or Alfonso Rodriguez Jr.?

Antares
March 3rd, 2008, 11:37 PM
I am pro. Instead of having people miserably wait in jail cells wasting the taxpayers money why don't we have the fugitivies that are gonna die sometime or later die early and end their misery. So yeah. I say death penalty because it just is the logical way to go.

Whisper
March 3rd, 2008, 11:54 PM
http://www.spaceandculture.org/uploaded_images/van-large-774472.jpg
Chinas mobile execution center
now
they bring the lethal injection to you
instead of you having to be put through secure transit to it


Now to that.....I honestly am at a loss for words..

Falk 'Ace' Flyer
March 3rd, 2008, 11:55 PM
Against death is the easy way out, being locked away for life means they can think about what they've done.

Agreed.

Though I accidently voted pro ><

You know, It actually causes more to go for the death penalty than life in prison? It takes 5+ years to get through all the appeals, complaints, etc! Millions spent, all to execute one person! Seriously, just the killing itself is 2+ million!
Gimme the word, and 'll do it for free ;)

Just make sure its an actual criminal. In no way, shape or form was this comment meant to be serious. This was for entertainment purposes only. The statement given here should never be used as a motive or as evidence. I hold no responsibility for any actions this post has caused.



Edit: although, if you gave them, say, a 10 year sentence, and THEN executed them, now THAT would be torture. And appropriate.

Hippie
March 4th, 2008, 12:03 AM
I think it all depends in what the charge is, If it's some serious Serial Killer I would understand but I agree with Death penalty to an extent... Personally I think stuff like that just causes more problems and just makes people more mad at our government. but everyone titled to their own Opinion.


Hippie

The Batman
March 5th, 2008, 08:54 PM
No one deserves to die no matter what they have done. By killing them whats makes you better they took a life and now you just did. Another thing is why would you just end their life you should just lock them up in a maximum security cell with no kind of luxuries just 4 walls and a floor to sleep on

keidriantiger
March 5th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Im pro for it because we would have a lot more jails today if there never was a death sentence.

Underage_Thinker
March 5th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Since 1776 only 1,097 people have been executed in the us, whereas, by comparison their are roughly 2 million people incarcerated in us jails. So in reality abolishing the death penaltity would have little effect on the overal prison population, at least in the US.

Whisper
March 5th, 2008, 11:09 PM
nobody mentions the bus.....i give you people gold and

omg

Zephyr
March 9th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Pro

People get off way too easy these days claiming phsychosis, (temporary psychological breaks from reality), so it just makes a joke of the law and it paves the way for more criminals to get off for murder because they know that they have a chance of getting away with it.

Also, we say that life isn't fair and complain about it.
So let's make it fair: an eye for an eye, a life for a life.

Techno Monster
March 9th, 2008, 09:38 PM
OK let me make this straight, if someone kills somebody they DESERVE to be killed. Robbing an innocent person of their life is a terrible crime and an eye for an eye is something I have always believed in.

Zephyr
March 9th, 2008, 09:59 PM
OK let me make this straight, if someone kills somebody they DESERVE to be killed. Robbing an innocent person of their life is a terrible crime and an eye for an eye is something I have always believed in.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head.

theOperaGhost
March 9th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I agree with steph and the reaper.

What do you think should happen to rapist? I think they are the worst criminals, even worse than murder.

Zephyr
March 10th, 2008, 01:51 AM
I agree with steph and the reaper.

What do you think should happen to rapist? I think they are the worst criminals, even worse than murder.

Rapists... (this goes for both sexes, and this is just my opinion)

First Offense: Jail time with a hefty fine

Multiple Accounts: Castration

Gumleaf
March 10th, 2008, 03:57 AM
i'm kinda torn because my christian beliefs tell me that the death penalty is wrong and we should not be the judge of who should be killed or not. but then i hear about these terrible crimes that are commited and think, why should this person deserve to live after ending someone elses life? so although i voted against in the poll, i am rather torn.

The Batman
March 10th, 2008, 04:30 PM
I say instead of the death penalty torture them severely make them suffer a fate worse than death

tombstonequeen
March 10th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I AM PRO DEATH PENALTY
any person who would inflict harm to another the should die
including rapists

robbiehay1
March 10th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Are you for or agains the death penalty? Discuss.

I personally am pro. Look at it this way. Would you rather that e.g. Your childrens' murderer. Say he was given life sentences. He could escape. Say he does, and does it again. Or he is given the death penalty.

I know that is very extreme. But think about it. I have always believed in an eye-for-an-eye. In most serious cases. Please don't call me on it.

im aginst
can you imagine being wrongly convicted of murder and you sentenced to death....think about it

and who are we to play God anyway


An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind

Underage_Thinker
March 10th, 2008, 07:11 PM
I AM PRO DEATH PENALTY
any person who would inflict harm to another the should die
including rapists

so if i accidentally hit somebody with a car i should die? Why are you guys so proud of the fact that you support legalized state killing. Don't get me wrong i find murderers and rapists deplorable but our legal system isn't anywear near perfect, especial when it comes to rape, and even one innocent person wrongfully executed is to many, you cant exonerate a dead person.

Zephyr
March 10th, 2008, 11:41 PM
so if i accidentally hit somebody with a car i should die? Why are you guys so proud of the fact that you support legalized state killing. Don't get me wrong i find murderers and rapists deplorable but our legal system isn't anywear near perfect, especial when it comes to rape, and even one innocent person wrongfully executed is to many, you cant exonerate a dead person.

That would be what they call 'Man Slaughter' since the person was not intentionally killed, and they give you jail time for that since you were 'probably' being a wreckless driver for not noticing a pedestrian.

tombstonequeen
March 11th, 2008, 12:53 PM
well i have studied a lot about criminal justice and thats what i am going into for college
i think they should put them to death if the forensic evidence matches up
and not that wussy lil here is a small injection bring on the electric chair
LET EM FRY

The Entertainer
March 11th, 2008, 01:19 PM
tombstonequeen, for someone who is doing this at college, I am completely astounded at your views. Someone who is doing criminal justice should have a balanced view, surely?
Are you not aware of the numerous reports that state quite clearly that the lethal injection process presents unimaginable suffering for those who are exectuted by it? Are you also not aware of the somewhat barabaric nature of methods of execution, not only in the USA, but also other countries?
If the forensic eveidence matches up, so what?! There are plenty of cases where forensics have been messed and countless innocent people executed.
I cannot condemn the death penalty enough.

tombstonequeen
March 11th, 2008, 01:54 PM
tombstonequeen, for someone who is doing this at college, I am completely astounded at your views. Someone who is doing criminal justice should have a balanced view, surely?
Are you not aware of the numerous reports that state quite clearly that the lethal injection process presents unimaginable suffering for those who are exectuted by it? Are you also not aware of the somewhat barabaric nature of methods of execution, not only in the USA, but also other countries?
If the forensic eveidence matches up, so what?! There are plenty of cases where forensics have been messed and countless innocent people executed.
I cannot condemn the death penalty enough.


did u not know that america has the highest number in murders?
i'm sorry but if some guy were to rape and murder my son or daughter
i personally would be out there with a meat cleaver hunting him down
it takes a lot to be innocent and still found guilty and i mean a lot
how about u take a break and get off ur high horse and do some research?
my views differ from topic to topic and the more i hear of a murderer just sittin in jail costing us money make more mad

Mzor203
March 12th, 2008, 04:44 PM
The thing is that we need a death penalty, because just think about this:

A guy murders someone because he resents them for some reason. He goes to jail for 20 years. He has a horrible time in jail and gets beaten by the people in the cell with him, or otherwise he is put in a solitary cell and goes insane. Either way, he comes out of jail with an incredible hatred for society in his heart. He ends up going out and shooting a bunch of people and then finally himself. (I am not reffering to anything that really happened anywhere.)

Anyways, the point is, yes, you can try to reform them in prison, but they are just going to end up coming out worse than they went in. Think of all the rapists who got put in jail for raping someone, and then the minute they got out, went and raped someone again. With a murderer, more likely than not they are just going to kill more people, or kill themselves, so why not just end it before it begins.

This is my point of view, feel free to criticize and harrass me on it.

The Entertainer
March 13th, 2008, 03:50 PM
did u not know that america has the highest number in murders?
i'm sorry but if some guy were to rape and murder my son or daughter
i personally would be out there with a meat cleaver hunting him down
it takes a lot to be innocent and still found guilty and i mean a lot
how about u take a break and get off ur high horse and do some research?
my views differ from topic to topic and the more i hear of a murderer just sittin in jail costing us money make more mad

Id love to show you the books Ive read on the topic and the research. Anyway, the justice system states that the death penalty has to be painless and humane (hence why the Supreme Court for 10 years did not use it, citing certain "cruel and unusual punishments". Even if you were going to use death by aspoxia as an excuse to kill wrongdoers, then I would not support it.
Dont give me the example of "what if your... was murdered" because I wouldnt be able to tell you what my true reaction would be. As Sigmund Freud would argue, we all have hidden primal urges in the unconscious areas of our mind, and, in my view, society suppresses them. So perhaps therefore, I wouldnt be as anti-death penalty as I am being now.

However, as Im sure you are perfectly aware, most murders are one off events. The cases many people read about in the news are not.
Please reply.

tombstonequeen
March 13th, 2008, 06:49 PM
dude i mean give them the death penalty with extremly violent crimes i'm not sayin hey he hit a dude lets kill him
i will always be pro death penalty and nothing and i mean nothing can change my mind

Underground_Network
March 13th, 2008, 06:52 PM
Another reason we should execute them is because half the time when they get a sentence like 20 to life they get out in something like 15 years. And there have been murderers who have gotten out after like 6 years. Now thats just fucking unacceptable. Life without parole might be better than the death penalty in some cases, but some people just fucking deserve to die.

Mzor203
March 13th, 2008, 08:11 PM
^^^I agree, when a murderer escapes from prison, especially one with a high reputation for murder, all that comes from it is extremely paranoid people who may end up acting stupidly, and possibly more murders. It's just a waste.

The Entertainer
March 15th, 2008, 04:31 PM
so, because of faults in the legal system, instead of mending those faults, we kill the prisoners who can use them? How inhumane is that?!?!

tombstonequeen
March 15th, 2008, 05:01 PM
oh grow up there is gonna be faults everywhere
so how will the prison system differ?

japanman
March 15th, 2008, 05:07 PM
HELLZ Ya if some one does something illegal send them to prison for a long time if they take it no prob but if they resist kill them:yes: depending on the courts case it may difer

Techno Monster
March 15th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Agreed

dissent
March 19th, 2008, 04:27 AM
I dont support the death penalty if someone murders that is terrible but what gives us the right to decide that they should die while it would be wrong not to punish them at all it is just as bad 2 kill them also not that this is the reason i dont support it but if you let them live they have to live out there lives knowing what things they have done

JoshDude
March 19th, 2008, 04:31 AM
Its very hard. What if the person accused is actually innocent? Killing them by accident cant be undone.

Sugaree
March 19th, 2008, 12:49 PM
It really all depends on the crime that was commited I think. So I voted for against the death penalty.

Now for guys like BTK or Scott Peterson, they do deserve it

IfPiratesCouldFly
March 20th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I am competely for it. But I'm not for the whole, just kill. Some people deserve more than death, I believe in a more "Equal Action" situation, where they receive the same exact punishment as they had dealt. This way, instead of spending everyday for the rest of their life, thinking about what they've done, they can figure it out right then and there.

steven
March 20th, 2008, 08:02 PM
i agree and disagree with it, first of all, i agree because of the people that go on mass murders i believe that they shouldnt live because they wouldnt be reformed from any amount of time in prison, but i believe that they shouldnt to give the public a chance to get their own back (my idea is abit sadistic but the government should escort the offender around and let the public do what they want to them) this would give them a little bit of what they have given out :)

Steve

Nihilus
March 31st, 2008, 10:04 PM
Theres better ways to deal with crimals. Sometimes its okay but not most of the time:cool:

happytimes
April 1st, 2008, 10:28 PM
There's a few reason why I am against it:

1. Capital punishment is for really really really serious crimes. That would just be a break for the criminal.

2. The criminal does not learn anything. He just dies. Unlike jail where people are getting educated and given a second chance to be a good man/woman.

3. Like I said above. People are given a second chance. Which I think everyone deserves. Even Al Capone.

4. I think capital punishment is just for the sole purpose of getting scumbags off the streets for good.

lolboi06
August 15th, 2008, 08:07 PM
im against the death penalty because what if u kill someone that did't do the crime. Then u will be killing ten ppl instead of saving one person life

Bobby
August 15th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Old. Locking.