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AlexanderTheGreat
May 5th, 2014, 06:21 AM
You are enslaved. It's not nice to think about, but it's true. Everyone is enslaved. Why? Money. That's why anything happens in this world, money. Money is the thing that fuels that world, it what makes things happen. It's why you work. It's why you buy. It's why you sell. And that is all people do, we work, we buy and we sell. But in modern times all these would give us a benefit but they don't. Why? Taxation is why. Taxation is where the government takes a percentage of your money away to benefit you. That's the definition but is that the reality of what's happening?

Let's go back to accent Egyptian times. Slavery was something that happened every day. The slaves where kept in really shit conditions. What that did was decrease productivity. Then the Romans came along and they came along with the concept that if the slave has more freedom then productivity is higher. (Do you see where I am going with this?). Now we live in the year 2014. Everyone is 'free'. Everyone works. Everyone works for someone. Back in roman times slaves worked, slaves were workers and workers were slaves. Today slaves are workers and workers are slaves but the term slave is deemed as 'too harsh' by who? The people you work for. Right now you are a slave working in a world that benefits one person.The person who taxes you. Why do I say not the people you work for? Because they get taxed. Everyone and everything gets taxed. In the USA there are around 50-60 different types of taxes. Your whole life is set up to benefit your government. You are effectively livestock.

You go to school from a young age to teach you two things, that there will always be a boss and how to work for that boss. It brainwashes you to think that you MUST obey authority otherwise you are punished. In fact the concept of jail is immediately portrayed in school. In detentions. Detentions is detaining someone and if you get put in jail your are detained. It gives children the idea of the horrible world we live in a child friendly way which gets harsher and harsher.

Slaves where originally given a task to do no matter is they could do it or not. But now the taxers have realized that if they let us, the people choose what they want to do then the taxers make a better profit. They put in healthcare and school and roads and so much and they get money out of it.

This is not the way to live. We are all ruled over by the taxers who have an amazing luxurious life. We are ruled over by what are effectively, control freaks. These are the government, the red shield bankers, and the people who control money. Money was originally a harmless method of trade but now it is a manipulative way to benefit from slavery. This is wrong and unnatural. The concept of money is natural but now the way it is used today. Today it is used by devils to squeeze out as much money, tax and profit as possible out of your tiny little pockets that are just gonna get smaller.

I'll finish with a quote from Mr. Charles Chaplin: "Soldiers! don’t give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel! Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural! Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!"

Jack russell dad
May 5th, 2014, 03:33 PM
Alas, what u preach is true

sqishy
May 6th, 2014, 04:46 PM
Theory accepted and understood, before I even came here to read it. Illusions galore :P

Cygnus
May 6th, 2014, 05:13 PM
I don't know what you are talking about when it comes to school since my school teaches leaders and people who can change the world. And despite capitalism being an obvious force, I'm fine with it, my greedy self likes it.

Sir Suomi
May 6th, 2014, 09:59 PM
Interesting concept. But sadly, there really isn't anyway to escape that, is there?

Gamma Male
May 6th, 2014, 10:10 PM
Oh yes, taxes are just horrible! Especially the ones that pay for roads, hospitals, education, public parks, the police force, and firefighters!

sqishy
May 7th, 2014, 10:38 AM
Oh yes, taxes are just horrible! Especially the ones that pay for roads, hospitals, education, public parks, the police force, and firefighters!

Here we go again. It has to cost something, because money is a fundamental law that must be obeyed or else everything will collapse! OMG everything has to cost something...

*sarcasm*

Hyper
May 7th, 2014, 02:55 PM
What is the point of your post?

Here we go again. It has to cost something, because money is a fundamental law that must be obeyed or else everything will collapse! OMG everything has to cost something...

*sarcasm*

Do you have some kind of idea how the world can work without money?

Typhlosion
May 7th, 2014, 02:57 PM
Here we go again. It has to cost something, because money is a fundamental law that must be obeyed or else everything will collapse! OMG everything has to cost something...

*sarcasm* But shouldn't we give worth to something? Or anything at all? Not too many would work on constructions and technology if there were no compensation afterwards. In modern days this compensation in generally in the form of - you guessed it - money! It would be unfair to give every single individual a same set of compensation because everyone's different, you couldn't give bread to everyone because of gluten! And if someone can can something else than bread, why not the others?

Fine, now we must have some sort of "credits" where people acquire their compensations in the form they want - even if they are compensated equally.

And when you think that one of those compensations are food, then yes we are slaves. Slaves to our own natural needs. Slaves to what allows us to exist. Money does not imply in Mega 108" TVs, those are just side effects.

Do you agree?

(I also don't believe that everyone should be compensated equally, but that's some other topic.)

Emerald Dream
May 7th, 2014, 03:03 PM
This is becoming a debate.

The White Padded Room :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise

Hyper
May 7th, 2014, 03:04 PM
But shouldn't we give worth to something? Or anything at all? Not too many would work on constructions and technology if there were no compensation afterwards. In modern days this compensation in generally in the form of - you guessed it - money! It would be unfair to give every single individual a same set of compensation because everyone's different, you couldn't give bread to everyone because of gluten! And if someone can can something else than bread, why not the others?

Fine, now we must have some sort of "credits" where people acquire their compensations in the form they want - even if they are compensated equally.

And when you think that one of those compensations are food, then yes we are slaves. Slaves to our own natural needs. Slaves to what allows us to exist. Money does not imply in Mega 108" TVs, those are just side effects.

Do you agree?

(I also don't believe that everyone should be compensated equally, but that's some other topic.)

Money wasn't created to be a ''reward'' or ''compensation'' for work. It was created to facilitate more efficient trade. Instead of bartering goods for other goods or services you could use a widely accepted medium (currency).

I don't think money existing or not is the problem at all... The problem is the quantity and thus the value of money is manipulated today.

Typhlosion
May 7th, 2014, 03:09 PM
Money wasn't created to be a ''reward'' or ''compensation'' for work. It was created to facilitate more efficient trade. Instead of bartering goods for other goods or services you could use a widely accepted medium (currency).

I don't think money existing or not is the problem at all... The problem is the quantity and thus the value of money is manipulated today. But it still stems in compensation - trade existed because no one wanted to give their cow for free. (Sure, in an idealized society such would be possible, but the human itself isn't ideal.)

Hyper
May 7th, 2014, 03:29 PM
But it still stems in compensation - trade existed because no one wanted to give their cow for free. (Sure, in an idealized society such would be possible, but the human itself isn't ideal.)

Trade existed because there was a need to trade.

Because nobody could produce everything they needed or wanted on their own.

Vlerchan
May 7th, 2014, 04:04 PM
When you make a conciouss and deliberate decision to reside within a jurisdiction that democratically elects representatives of which support the imposition of taxation on the populace, then you have consented to the taxation. Feel free to make a further conscious and deliberate decision to head to a tax havan (British Virgin Isles is a great one if you are British) if you have a problem with such.

EDIT:
I'll finish with a quote from Mr. Charles Chaplin ...
... who was ironically a socialist, in favour of lots of taxes.

AlexanderTheGreat
May 8th, 2014, 03:27 PM
When you make a conciouss and deliberate decision to reside within a jurisdiction that democratically elects representatives of which support the imposition of taxation on the populace, then you have consented to the taxation. Feel free to make a further conscious and deliberate decision to head to a tax havan (British Virgin Isles is a great one if you are British) if you have a problem with such.

EDIT:

... who was ironically a socialist, in favour of lots of taxes.

Fair point however what he says is amazing and I am fascinated by him.

What is the point of your post?



Do you have some kind of idea how the world can work without money?

In my head if the world were to work without the concept of money then I see a world where everyone puts all their resources and work together so everyone puts an equal amount in and gets an equal amount out.

Merged double post. -Cygnus David