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Ryan1698
May 3rd, 2014, 02:46 PM
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I've always wondered this and when I search for it, I get conflicting results.
If two virgins have anal sex, can you be 100% sure that HIV will then not be transmitted? Also, to be even safer, is it possible to get an HIV test the first time you're going to have sex with your partner, to ensure you're both negative? If yes, then how come so many people are still getting infected? I'd use a condom anyway, but if it's possible to test before you have sex with your partner for the first time, surely it'd be completely prevented?
Elysium
May 3rd, 2014, 02:46 PM
Puberty for Boys :arrow: VT General Hospital
Also, you cannot be completely sure; people can be born with the virus. It is possible to get tested at any time (you should consult your physician to find out more about that). People can still get infected by the transfer of blood, semen, or vaginal fluids through sharing needles, unprotected oral/anal/vaginal sex, etc. with someone who is infected. It doesn't take much to become infected. And, as previously mentioned, people can be born with the virus.
Read more here (http://kidshealth.org/teen/sexual_health/stds/AIDS.html).
Lastly, be aware that there are still other possible STDs.
Meganium
May 3rd, 2014, 02:49 PM
To answer the test problem, yes you can get one before either party has had sex and still get accurate results.
However, I'm honestly not 100% sure as to whether or not two HIV free virgins could contract the disease through any kind of sexual contact with each other. I do believe it's possible, I'm just not exactly sure how it works.
deregisterme
May 3rd, 2014, 03:02 PM
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I've always wondered this and when I search for it, I get conflicting results.
If two virgins have anal sex, can you be 100% sure that HIV will then not be transmitted? Also, to be even safer, is it possible to get an HIV test the first time you're going to have sex with your partner, to ensure you're both negative? If yes, then how come so many people are still getting infected? I'd use a condom anyway, but if it's possible to test before you have sex with your partner for the first time, surely it'd be completely prevented?
The only sure way for an HIV test is from your doc. If it's the first time you should be OK. It's unlikely to get it other ways, usually from direct contact with any liquids - blood transfers, dirty needles, mother to baby, and these are all unusual circumstances
Body odah Man
May 3rd, 2014, 03:15 PM
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I've always wondered this and when I search for it, I get conflicting results.
If two virgins have anal sex, can you be 100% sure that HIV will then not be transmitted? Also, to be even safer, is it possible to get an HIV test the first time you're going to have sex with your partner, to ensure you're both negative? If yes, then how come so many people are still getting infected? I'd use a condom anyway, but if it's possible to test before you have sex with your partner for the first time, surely it'd be completely prevented?
1. You can't be sure, some are born with HIV
2. Yes, testing is possible at any time even if both are virgins
3. Tests cost money and young people believe they are immortal or will never get HIV so they act recklessly and get transmitted. Also many people share your ignorance on the topic.
plebble
May 3rd, 2014, 03:33 PM
If neither of you are positive, then you can't get it from each other.
And why anal sex? HIV can be transmitted through regular intercourse too. You don't have to be a virgin to have HIV, but it is a lot less likely that a virgin will have it.
Cloud_Strife
May 4th, 2014, 02:15 AM
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I've always wondered this and when I search for it, I get conflicting results.
If two virgins have anal sex, can you be 100% sure that HIV will then not be transmitted? Also, to be even safer, is it possible to get an HIV test the first time you're going to have sex with your partner, to ensure you're both negative? If yes, then how come so many people are still getting infected? I'd use a condom anyway, but if it's possible to test before you have sex with your partner for the first time, surely it'd be completely prevented?
1. You can't be sure, some are born with HIV
Hi Ryan,
As Bepop mentioned, it is possible for virgins to transmit HIV, even if they have never had sex. Some indeed do inherit it through vertical transmission - from mother to child. Others can acquire it in life, not just through sex, but through other things like blood transfusions, bodily fluid exposure and other activities like IV drug use. So in short, you cannot 100% be sure that you cannot have HIV transmitted in that scenario you outlined.
Testing is indeed available and can be accessed by your family doctor or sexual health clinics if requested. Depends on which country you live in - this might incur costs, it might not.
However, HIV is one of those conditions where there is something called a window period. In a nutshell, this is the time where the body harbours the virus, without it mounting enough of an immune response to be detected on blood testing. This is 3-6 months for HIV. In other words, if someone has been exposed to HIV, or is suspected of being exposed; then to be more reliably tested, they'd have to wait at least 6 months after exposure being tested for a reliable result to detect the disease.
So a negative test doesn't really mean much, unless you know about the window period. Even then, it might still be a false negative test, where a person harbours the disease, but it isn't detected.
Hope that helps.
Body odah Man
May 4th, 2014, 02:04 PM
Hi Ryan,
As Bepop mentioned, it is possible for virgins to transmit HIV, even if they have never had sex. Some indeed do inherit it through vertical transmission - from mother to child. Others can acquire it in life, not just through sex, but through other things like blood transfusions, bodily fluid exposure and other activities like IV drug use. So in short, you cannot 100% be sure that you cannot have HIV transmitted in that scenario you outlined.
Testing is indeed available and can be accessed by your family doctor or sexual health clinics if requested. Depends on which country you live in - this might incur costs, it might not.
However, HIV is one of those conditions where there is something called a window period. In a nutshell, this is the time where the body harbours the virus, without it mounting enough of an immune response to be detected on blood testing. This is 3-6 months for HIV. In other words, if someone has been exposed to HIV, or is suspected of being exposed; then to be more reliably tested, they'd have to wait at least 6 months after exposure being tested for a reliable result to detect the disease.
So a negative test doesn't really mean much, unless you know about the window period. Even then, it might still be a false negative test, where a person harbours the disease, but it isn't detected.
Hope that helps.
Wow, I did not know that hahaha. Thanks for the info.
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