View Full Version : What do you guys think of the JFK assassination conspiracy theories?
Gamma Male
April 26th, 2014, 06:53 PM
Personally I think if you look at the evidence you'll find that there was obviously a second shooter on the grassy knoll, and a conspiracy.
1 When JFK was shot he clearly went back and to the left. If the killing shot had been fired from where they said it had been, he would've been launched forward and to the left. His body would not have snapped backwards, towards where the bullet had been fired from. That makes no sense whatsoever.
2 The only explanation that explains how Oswald would've been able to his JFK and the Governor in such a short time with such a slow rifle is the single bullet theory, but the supposed bullet was found and it was relatively undamaged. A bullet would not be able to pass through that many layers of skin, flesh, bone, and clothing without being severely damaged.
3 Oswald was killed(supposedly by a random angry civilian) before the trial even began. Suspicious, no? Why would a random bartender with a history of criminal activity care THAT MUCH about the president?
4 Kennedy's body was removed by government agents before local autopsy doctors could really get a good look at it. Again, suspicious.
5 The official government report failed to bring up any of this, even though it's blatantly obvious the killing shot came from the grassy knoll. You would think that if they has nothing to do with it they would want to find out thr truth, and would bring these things up.
Vlerchan
April 26th, 2014, 07:22 PM
LBJ and the CIA orchestrated it. There was a second shooter.
Or that's my favourite theory.
sqishy
April 26th, 2014, 08:37 PM
There's ALWAYS more to things than people see or think, always backstage action.
Harry Smith
April 27th, 2014, 03:02 AM
Yes, the problem with it is that people look outside of the US trying to blame Cuba and the Soviets when in fact these were the two countries who had the most in common with JFK-Castro had already started talking to the Kennedy administration and he knew that JFK wasn't a cold war hawk, the same can be said for the Soviets-they didn't want the only cold war reformer dead.
But of course one group did-the CIA. The CIA were fucking corrupt back in the 60's-even for there standards. They had so many splinter groups that were basically doing their own game, I think they worked with the Cuban exiles who were annoyed with Kennedy after the bay of pigs and his failures to get Cuba back to the old government hence why they wanted to kill him. Nobody mentions how 4 weeks before his death 4 cuban gunman were caught planning the same routine involving a motorcade with JFK in it.
Oswald was at best a setup, I mean you couldn't really make him up-ex army sniper, with communist alliances-seems perfect right? 99% of the communists in 1960's america where FBI/CIA spies
ksdnfkfr
April 27th, 2014, 03:52 AM
The video below convinced me Oswald was the shooter. I think it was one shot hitting JFK and the Gov and then a second shot that was the fatal one. As for the way JFK moved, that's hard to say, because I think something like that to the brain could have caused an usual body spasm. So i guess that's the thing, did the bullet make him move like that, or was that his body reacting violently? Also when I froze the exact time of impact, it looks like the blood and stuff is flying forwards out the front as if the bullet came from behind. Ruby shooting Oswald seems super suspicious to me. And the government removing the body that way was suspicious, but they act weird about national security stuff so who knows.
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Southside
April 27th, 2014, 08:23 AM
I don't know about the magic bullet and second shooter, but I do strongly believe that there was some type of government involvment
Harry Smith
April 27th, 2014, 08:25 AM
I still don't understand how the first option says the official report was correct-has anyone seen how crap the warren commission was? They didn't even interview the doctor who operated on JFK
Vlerchan
April 27th, 2014, 08:45 AM
-they didn't want the only cold war reformer dead.
In what universe was JFK a cold war reformer?
Cygnus
April 27th, 2014, 11:54 AM
Given the fact that Oswald was shot and died right after probably means someone wanted to keep him silent, so there was involvement from someone else most definitely, maybe the Russian mob.
phuckphace
April 27th, 2014, 12:15 PM
daily reminder that if JFK hadn't got capped, a nuclear exchange with the USSR would've almost definitely happened and none of us would be here today. (that's a nice way to say he was an idiot.)
as for whodunit, I don't really care either way but I'm inclined to believe LHO acted alone. if it really was Oswald, he may have inadvertently saved the world. heh.
Harry Smith
April 27th, 2014, 12:43 PM
In what universe was JFK a cold war reformer?
Look at his American university speech-it's one of the best speeches a US president for the last 100 years, he passed the partial test ban treaty. The problem with the JFK legacy is that it's defined by the albeit stupid decisions of his cabinet members. I mean it's a pretty common idea that JFK was a hawk who was happy to invade Cuba/Vietnam but that's really exaggerated.
He sent Lisa Howard to negotiate with Castro in 1963 because JFK realized that he needed to start talking to Castro, and engage with Cuba. He sent memo's through Dick Godwin to start pulling troops out of Vietnam in 1964 (he had a hard time getting this past the pentagon,hence the unofficial nature of it), he battled against the hard-liners in his own cabinet such as the Joint chiefs who wanted to blast the soviets with every nuclear rocket, and the fact that he used people like Taylor and McNamara to try and advance his position.
I mean it's easy to see JFK as a hawk by today's standards but for the 1960's he become pretty isolated from the pro-war lobby in Washington. It's widely said that if JFK lived there would of been an early detene and maybe even a longer peace, so yeah the fact that JFK wanted to talk to Cuba and the USSR, pull out of Vietnam and limit the amount of nuclear warheads
Camazotz
April 27th, 2014, 10:05 PM
I don't know about the magic bullet and second shooter, but I do strongly believe that there was some type of government involvment
Exactly this.
There are two aspects of this conspiracy, and I don't like that it's almost always lumped into one:
1. Oswald as the only shooter vs. multiple shooters
2. Motive- Oswald had a personal vendetta vs. corruption within the CIA
I am 99.9% certain that Oswald was the only shooter. Ballistics and physics confirm that it was possible, and as this is the simplest explanation with available evidence, it's the most logical explanation.
The "why" question is something that can be debated until the end of time because we absolutely have not enough evidence to take any position with certainty. So until some real records come out that can be verifiable, I'll just assume that Oswald acted alone in his plot with an open mind to other explanations.
Capto
April 28th, 2014, 11:48 PM
There's a reason why conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories and not fact.
Typhlosion
April 29th, 2014, 10:19 AM
I think what I think about all conspiracy theories. It's just synonymous with "governmental skepticism leading to many times ridiculous thoughts".
Nah.
Abyssal Echo
April 29th, 2014, 10:53 AM
The video below convinced me Oswald was the shooter. I think it was one shot hitting JFK and the Gov and then a second shot that was the fatal one. As for the way JFK moved, that's hard to say, because I think something like that to the brain could have caused an usual body spasm. So i guess that's the thing, did the bullet make him move like that, or was that his body reacting violently? Also when I froze the exact time of impact, it looks like the blood and stuff is flying forwards out the front as if the bullet came from behind. Ruby shooting Oswald seems super suspicious to me. And the government removing the body that way was suspicious, but they act weird about national security stuff so who knows.
PfSXkfV_mhA
Yes there was 2 one that hit him in the shoulder that supposedly went on to hit the Governor then the one that hit him in the head. both were from different angles.
yes I think its super suspicious that Oswald was killed. from interviews I've seen there are a couple of book depository employees and they both said that Oswald was in the break room at the time of the shooting.
I don't know what to say. I believe that there was a lot more than one person involved. I doubt we will ever know the truth.
ksdnfkfr
April 29th, 2014, 11:14 AM
Actually, I think they flew an airplane into him.
Zanman11
May 1st, 2014, 01:59 PM
There's conspiracy theories for ever major happening in today's day and age... They're all bullcrap to me, besides a select few
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