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Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 04:10 PM
Is it rational to fear death?
It's something I've always wondered.
I've had discussions about this with people, and it seems that most people are afraid of death or not okay with it.
By my logic it's not rational to fear death; because death is nothingness, which sounds scary;
but there's not even a nothingness to fear, because there is no fear.
I am literaly okay with the thought that I could die any moment, maybe right now, and not live and just be gone forever. I don't mind.
Because when there's only emptynes,
there's not even a me to observe this emptynes,
it's not like I'll think "oh it's so empty here",
it's just nothingnes, no fear no pain.
Anyone get what I mean?
/:
I feel like i'm really alone in this.
MechaSniper
April 24th, 2014, 04:14 PM
i understand. It's a natural for people to fear the unexplained. like aliens, the bermuda triangle and other Scifi stories and reoccurring.
Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 04:16 PM
i understand. It's a natural for people to fear the unexplained. like aliens, the bermuda triangle and other Scifi stories and reoccurring.
I guess, but if death is just the end (which it generaly is), it's not truly unknown, ofcourse not according to everyone, but what's to fear about the end?
That's what I've never understood, the fear of the end of life or the world or whatever.
MechaSniper
April 24th, 2014, 04:18 PM
Becaous people don't know whats coming. like being dropped of in the woods in an unfamiliar state. you don't know what dangers are out there.
Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 04:23 PM
Becaous people don't know whats coming. like being dropped of in the woods in an unfamiliar state. you don't know what dangers are out there.
:what: but there are no dangers out there, it's the end, danger is for the living yaknow :P
lol I dunno where I'm going with this though.
MechaSniper
April 24th, 2014, 04:28 PM
the pont is we don't know what's on the other side. could be good coud be bad. we dont know.
Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 04:33 PM
the pont is we don't know what's on the other side. could be good coud be bad. we dont know.
Rationaly speaking it's neither, since there's just nothing, right?
I mean your brain stops working so you're basicly dead and that's it, no good no bad just empty. :metal:
MechaSniper
April 24th, 2014, 04:41 PM
True but some believe that your spirit lives on. And those who have experienced death has claimed they have seen something on the other side.
Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 04:47 PM
True but some believe that your spirit lives on. And those who have experienced death has claimed they have seen something on the other side.
But they weren't completely gone yet; if they were they wouldn't be alive, I mean I've heard stories about the dying experience and that it's great and very spiritual and stuff, but that just makes me feel more like death isn't something to be scared of; it's a pleasent thing and then just nothingnes.
Horatio Nelson
April 24th, 2014, 04:50 PM
Rationaly speaking it's neither, since there's just nothing, right?
I mean your brain stops working so you're basicly dead and that's it, no good no bad just empty. :metal:
How can you know that? There is no way to know what it's like when you die.
Karkat
April 24th, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nah, I feel exactly the same way. I mean, I do fear it to some extent, but it's usually one of two things:
-Regretting not being able to do this/that, leaving everyone behind
-Fear of pain
I don't really fear death itself.
Miserabilia
April 24th, 2014, 05:42 PM
Nah, I feel exactly the same way. I mean, I do fear it to some extent, but it's usually one of two things:
-Regretting not being able to do this/that, leaving everyone behind
-Fear of pain
I don't really fear death itself.
Me neither. I think it's something to look foreward too, which sounds emo but hear me out, I'm not killing myself becuase YOLO xD
"you only live once" is made compltely retarded by the general public but in this case it's actualy relevant;
I think death is a good thing for a person and nothing to be afraid of, only nice, and the only pain there is is the pain you feel when you're alive, yaknow?
Horatio Nelson
April 24th, 2014, 05:46 PM
Me neither. I think it's something to look foreward too, which sounds emo but hear me out, I'm not killing myself becuase YOLO xD
"you only live once" is made compltely retarded by the general public but in this case it's actualy relevant;
I think death is a good thing for a person and nothing to be afraid of, only nice, and the only pain there is is the pain you feel when you're alive, yaknow?
This boggles my mind. If you have a this kind of a thought. Why not end it all? What is the point of life?
This is purely from a curiosity standpoint. I legitimately want to know what you think.
Lovelife090994
April 24th, 2014, 05:59 PM
I can see why people fear death. Death is the only great equalizer since it affects every living thing on Earth. Also, spiritually you don't know what to expect. Will I die in peace or in pain? Will I die alone or in the care of my family in my last breath? I do and don't fear death. I know my King is waiting for me, and I know my grandmother is waiting for me.
backjruton
April 24th, 2014, 06:11 PM
I fear everything. Everything causes my anxiety issues and everything is what I don't want to talk about :| (I don't want to add or speak any more about this, just getting this out... :|)
Alex_3869
April 24th, 2014, 06:12 PM
I fear an early death, I fear that I will not be able to accomplish things that I want to accomplish, not see the things I would like to see. I fear that I will not be able to live to the greatest extent, which is why I fear an early death.. Now when I am old and frail, and I can not do anything by myself anymore, I will no longer fear death because I have lived my life, experienced everything etc.
On the actual concept of death, I am leaning towards the side of nothingness, painless and as stated above, emptiness
Pulp501
April 24th, 2014, 06:58 PM
I think it's rational. I don't fear about what is in store for me when I die, but I fear that I could die. I don't want to die. I fear about growing old and my loved ones growing old because once you get up to about 80 or so, it becomes so inevitable, like you come to expect it, and that is what is scary for me. I never want to be at an age where I'm waiting to die, or going to sleep every night knowing this could be the night I die of old age.
Karkat
April 24th, 2014, 08:48 PM
Me neither. I think it's something to look foreward too, which sounds emo but hear me out, I'm not killing myself becuase YOLO xD
"you only live once" is made compltely retarded by the general public but in this case it's actualy relevant;
I think death is a good thing for a person and nothing to be afraid of, only nice, and the only pain there is is the pain you feel when you're alive, yaknow?
I agree, except I don't really find it something to look forward to. That's just me personally- sure, you can't feel any pain, but there's no joy there either. Just nothingness. I'm neutral.
This boggles my mind. If you have a this kind of a thought. Why not end it all? What is the point of life?
This is purely from a curiosity standpoint. I legitimately want to know what you think.
:P Life is pointless. One of the greatest lessons depression can teach you. Ironically, it's a good lesson. It means that you have a blank slate, and you do what you see fit with your life. You find your own point, and when it no longer makes sense, you find another. Or, you live in the moment, in the constant ebb and flow of things. It's actually pretty peaceful and neat when you think about it.
Personally, as someone who is bipolar, fearing death is a moot point. It's not going to accomplish anything productive.
You have to learn to develop a healthy relationship with life.
I fear an early death, I fear that I will not be able to accomplish things that I want to accomplish, not see the things I would like to see. I fear that I will not be able to live to the greatest extent, which is why I fear an early death.. Now when I am old and frail, and I can not do anything by myself anymore, I will no longer fear death because I have lived my life, experienced everything etc.
On the actual concept of death, I am leaning towards the side of nothingness, painless and as stated above, emptiness
Exactly.
I think it's rational. I don't fear about what is in store for me when I die, but I fear that I could die. I don't want to die. I fear about growing old and my loved ones growing old because once you get up to about 80 or so, it becomes so inevitable, like you come to expect it, and that is what is scary for me. I never want to be at an age where I'm waiting to die, or going to sleep every night knowing this could be the night I die of old age.
Well, seeing your loved ones grow old and pass away, and seeing your loved ones grow not so old and pass away is just one of life's bitter inevitabilities. I mean, we can't escape the fact that it's going to happen, and we can't escape the fact that it's going to hurt.
But really, older folks don't fear death. I mean, I'm sure some do, but for the most part, I think you come to terms with dying.
Srom
April 24th, 2014, 08:57 PM
I don't fear death since I know where I'm going when I die.
ksdnfkfr
April 24th, 2014, 09:00 PM
I remember a similar topic when I first started here and someone wrote "I'm scared shitless of death" and that goes for me too. I mean the way a bad guy gets people to do things they don't want to, is to threaten their life. I'm not okay with dying right now at all. It severely creeps me out. Can't say exactly why it terrifies me, but it does. I hope I live to such an old age that I get tired of life and want to be released from it. But right now, am terrified of losing it.
Horatio Nelson
April 24th, 2014, 09:01 PM
But anyway, to answer your question: I am not afraid to die.
ksdnfkfr
April 24th, 2014, 09:12 PM
Rationaly speaking it's neither, since there's just nothing, right?
I mean your brain stops working so you're basicly dead and that's it, no good no bad just empty. :metal:
So let me ask you this, if some criminal pointed a gun at your head, you wouldn't be the lest bit terrified of him pulling the trigger?
Karkat
April 24th, 2014, 10:20 PM
So let me ask you this, if some criminal pointed a gun at your head, you wouldn't be the lest bit terrified of him pulling the trigger?
I think that's kind of a loaded question as having a gun pointed to your head is gonna cause an adrenaline rush. Of course you'll be terrified. Our minds are trained to see gun as danger.
Plus, there's a difference between being afraid of death, and being afraid of dying. I'm not afraid of death- which is just ceasing to exist, but I'm very much afraid of dying- the pain and process of transitioning from life to death, and the actual awareness that you're going to die. That one's kind of wired into our brains.
Ah, plus, I've been in the 'dying' position before, and it is terrifying. But not because you think you're going to die so much as all of the pain and uncertainty. Obviously you won't notice if you die. But you sure as heck notice when you're close.
ksdnfkfr
April 24th, 2014, 11:02 PM
I think that's kind of a loaded question as having a gun pointed to your head is gonna cause an adrenaline rush. Of course you'll be terrified. Our minds are trained to see gun as danger.
Plus, there's a difference between being afraid of death, and being afraid of dying. I'm not afraid of death- which is just ceasing to exist, but I'm very much afraid of dying- the pain and process of transitioning from life to death, and the actual awareness that you're going to die. That one's kind of wired into our brains.
Ah, plus, I've been in the 'dying' position before, and it is terrifying. But not because you think you're going to die so much as all of the pain and uncertainty. Obviously you won't notice if you die. But you sure as heck notice when you're close.
okay. that's what i'm scared of then, the dying part. i'm not scared of death like a day after i'm dead.
Horatio Nelson
April 24th, 2014, 11:08 PM
Our minds are trained to see gun as danger.
Forgive me, but I felt the need to say something about this. There is no "training", getting shot would f*cking hurt.
Karkat
April 24th, 2014, 11:11 PM
okay. that's what i'm scared of then, the dying part. i'm not scared of death like a day after i'm dead.
I think a lot of people mistake fear of dying for fear of death. They're pretty freaking close, after all.
Forgive me, but I felt the need to say something about this. There is no "training", getting shot would f*cking hurt.
Well, you don't know that a gun means danger from birth, do you? :P You're conditioned to feel this way about a gun.
Horatio Nelson
April 24th, 2014, 11:12 PM
Well, you don't know that a gun means danger from birth, do you? :P You're conditioned to feel this way about a gun.
For good reason though! lol
Karkat
April 24th, 2014, 11:12 PM
For good reason though! lol
I never said it wasn't a good reason, I just said that we're made to feel this way ;)
Sanctum
April 25th, 2014, 05:16 AM
nothingness? thats why most people are afraid of death , so we are living for nothing? sounds weird for me.
it is rational because the human being loves infinity. he is not convinced to this world only.
sqishy
April 25th, 2014, 07:34 AM
Evolutionarily, it is rational, to keep the species going with motivation to stay alive.
However death itself is the thing people fear more I think, because it might hurt. What happens after is there is an after, is really impossible to know unless you go there, which is a one-way trip most of the time. I don't fear what I see as impossible to define and what might as well be called nothing from my life's perspective, after death. The only thing is that I leave this world behind, and I'm not ready for it yet, but some day I might be okay with being done with life, so death will be a place of no fear for me. Otherwise I accept death, but of course adrenalin kicks in when I get close to it so my body is holding me back :P
Body odah Man
April 25th, 2014, 07:55 AM
Is it rational to fear death?
It's something I've always wondered.
I've had discussions about this with people, and it seems that most people are afraid of death or not okay with it.
By my logic it's not rational to fear death; because death is nothingness, which sounds scary;
but there's not even a nothingness to fear, because there is no fear.
I am literaly okay with the thought that I could dy any moment, maybe right now, and not live and just be gone forever. I don't mind.
Because when there's only emptynes,
there's not even a me to observe this emptynes,
it's not like I'll think "oh it's so empty here",
it's just nothingnes, no fear no pain.
Anyone get what I mean?
/:
I feel like i'm really alone in this.
I get what you mean, I think, but I don't agree with it. I think that the old Roman emperors did though, particularly Seneca or Marcus Aurelius, but don't quote me on that.
I personally don't believe death is an emptiness, but that it is like the Christians say, that we will see our loved ones there and live forever if we believed faithfully in God.
ninja789
April 25th, 2014, 07:59 AM
I fear the possible pain and given everything ends I fear that in a way. You get one shot in my opinion so there will still be stuff I haven't done and people I couldn't say goodbye too.
At the same time it doesn't scare me that much. Its weird
Miserabilia
April 25th, 2014, 09:24 AM
This boggles my mind. If you have a this kind of a thought. Why not end it all? What is the point of life?
This is purely from a curiosity standpoint. I legitimately want to know what you think.
Well I get that alot.
I don't end it all, because I only live once.
Better enjoy what's there to enjoy, now that I can.
I can see why people fear death. Death is the only great equalizer since it affects every living thing on Earth. Also, spiritually you don't know what to expect. Will I die in peace or in pain? Will I die alone or in the care of my family in my last breath? I do and don't fear death. I know my King is waiting for me, and I know my grandmother is waiting for me.
Good for you :)
I fear everything. Everything causes my anxiety issues and everything is what I don't want to talk about :| (I don't want to add or speak any more about this, just getting this out... :|)
:(
I fear an early death, I fear that I will not be able to accomplish things that I want to accomplish, not see the things I would like to see. I fear that I will not be able to live to the greatest extent, which is why I fear an early death.. Now when I am old and frail, and I can not do anything by myself anymore, I will no longer fear death because I have lived my life, experienced everything etc.
On the actual concept of death, I am leaning towards the side of nothingness, painless and as stated above, emptiness
I used to think this, but then I thought f*k it; I live my life how I want, even if I end up doing nothing and being homeles and die on the streets, it's just life and death, who's there to judge but me?
I think it's rational. I don't fear about what is in store for me when I die, but I fear that I could die. I don't want to die. I fear about growing old and my loved ones growing old because once you get up to about 80 or so, it becomes so inevitable, like you come to expect it, and that is what is scary for me. I never want to be at an age where I'm waiting to die, or going to sleep every night knowing this could be the night I die of old age.
Waiting to die is a scary thought yes,
but death itself is said to be a pleasent experience, and once you are are going to die you are usualy ready, like, your brain is not going to fight it once it's the moment.
I don't fear death since I know where I'm going when I die.
k :)
I remember a similar topic when I first started here and someone wrote "I'm scared shitless of death" and that goes for me too. I mean the way a bad guy gets people to do things they don't want to, is to threaten their life. I'm not okay with dying right now at all. It severely creeps me out. Can't say exactly why it terrifies me, but it does. I hope I live to such an old age that I get tired of life and want to be released from it. But right now, am terrified of losing it.
:(
So let me ask you this, if some criminal pointed a gun at your head, you wouldn't be the lest bit terrified of him pulling the trigger?
I would be afraid because
a) natural reaction
b) may be painful
okay. that's what i'm scared of then, the dying part. i'm not scared of death like a day after i'm dead.
Me neither :)
nothingness? thats why most people are afraid of death , so we are living for nothing? sounds weird for me.
it is rational because the human being loves infinity. he is not convinced to this world only.
We are living and dying for nothing, but ourselves, we judge ourselves and decide for ourselves what the point of it is.
Evolutionarily, it is rational, to keep the species going with motivation to stay alive.
However death itself is the thing people fear more I think, because it might hurt. What happens after is there is an after, is really impossible to know unless you go there, which is a one-way trip most of the time. I don't fear what I see as impossible to define and what might as well be called nothing from my life's perspective, after death. The only thing is that I leave this world behind, and I'm not ready for it yet, but some day I might be okay with being done with life, so death will be a place of no fear for me. Otherwise I accept death, but of course adrenalin kicks in when I get close to it so my body is holding me back :P
Ofcourse it makes sense evolutionairy, but I'm talking philosophical here :P
I aggree that the hurting part sucks, but I mean like death once you're really gone death.
I get what you mean, I think, but I don't agree with it. I think that the old Roman emperors did though, particularly Seneca or Marcus Aurelius, but don't quote me on that.
I personally don't believe death is an emptiness, but that it is like the Christians say, that we will see our loved ones there and live forever if we believed faithfully in God.
Whatever floats your boat right?
I fear the possible pain and given everything ends I fear that in a way. You get one shot in my opinion so there will still be stuff I haven't done and people I couldn't say goodbye too.
At the same time it doesn't scare me that much. Its weird
I fear pain too.
But death itself not really, so I see where you're coming from.
sqishy
April 25th, 2014, 09:50 AM
Ofcourse it makes sense evolutionairy, but I'm talking philosophical here :P
I aggree that the hurting part sucks, but I mean like death once you're really gone death.
I know you are being philosophical, I'm that most of the time :P
ValentinClarke
April 25th, 2014, 09:59 AM
If my death was painless i would npt be scared. If i had done all of my uni and got my physicist job, i would be alright. I am scared of missing out and pain. Not death itself. Death is seen as a living object, or animate would be better.
Kahn
April 25th, 2014, 10:11 AM
I wish I could copy-paste the entirety of the Phaedo in this thread. It'd probably help in developing your perspective on death.
The only thing we know about what happens after death is that we do not know (unless, of course, you've accepted some religious or scientific dogma as the ultimate truth).
I am not afraid of death. I wish for it to happen peacefully, rather than suddenly, but I am interested in what the experience holds for me. I don't want to die. I know I will at some point, though.
Miserabilia
April 25th, 2014, 12:26 PM
I know you are being philosophical, I'm that most of the time :P
Philosophy club :D
If my death was painless i would npt be scared. If i had done all of my uni and got my physicist job, i would be alright. I am scared of missing out and pain. Not death itself. Death is seen as a living object, or animate would be better.
Yea death seems okay, but I don't really want to dy in pain, because pain sucks anyway
I wish I could copy-paste the entirety of the Phaedo in this thread. It'd probably help in developing your perspective on death.
The only thing we know about what happens after death is that we do not know (unless, of course, you've accepted some religious or scientific dogma as the ultimate truth).
I am not afraid of death. I wish for it to happen peacefully, rather than suddenly, but I am interested in what the experience holds for me. I don't want to die. I know I will at some point, though.
I'm just kinda neutral.
I mean I'm not eager to die, but if it happens let it happen, like meh as long as it's not too painful.
Body odah Man
April 25th, 2014, 02:06 PM
Well I get that alot.
I don't end it all, because I only live once.
Better enjoy what's there to enjoy, now that I can.
Good for you :)
:(
I used to think this, but then I thought f*k it; I live my life how I want, even if I end up doing nothing and being homeles and die on the streets, it's just life and death, who's there to judge but me?
Waiting to die is a scary thought yes,
but death itself is said to be a pleasent experience, and once you are are going to die you are usualy ready, like, your brain is not going to fight it once it's the moment.
k :)
:(
I would be afraid because
a) natural reaction
b) may be painful
Me neither :)
We are living and dying for nothing, but ourselves, we judge ourselves and decide for ourselves what the point of it is.
Ofcourse it makes sense evolutionairy, but I'm talking philosophical here :P
I aggree that the hurting part sucks, but I mean like death once you're really gone death.
Whatever floats your boat right?
I fear pain too.
But death itself not really, so I see where you're coming from.
Exactly Cheese
Kahn
April 25th, 2014, 02:21 PM
Philosophy club :D
Yea death seems okay, but I don't really want to dy in pain, because pain sucks anyway
I'm just kinda neutral.
I mean I'm not eager to die, but if it happens let it happen, like meh as long as it's not too painful.
That's where you and I differ. If I have an opportunity to keep on going, and living is more appropriate than dying (like I was suddenly mugged in an alley and stabbed through the kidney), I am going to fight to live. But, I will not fear the fact that my physical life is coming to an end, and if it seems inevitable that I am to pass, then I will embrace that.
Never will I sit back and say "well, if it happens, it happens." With that same logic somebody could justify standing in the middle of a rush-hour intersection with the words "Hit me, I dare you" written across their chest.
Snowfall
April 25th, 2014, 11:01 PM
'Death is not to be feared, for it is the only thing we all have in common". Interestingly I found that off a Pokemon fanfic. My point is, we're all gonna die anyway, so why be afraid of it? Does it matter there's something out there? Maybe. But we're going to have to go there sooner or later.
Miserabilia
April 26th, 2014, 05:32 AM
That's where you and I differ. If I have an opportunity to keep on going, and living is more appropriate than dying (like I was suddenly mugged in an alley and stabbed through the kidney), I am going to fight to live. But, I will not fear the fact that my physical life is coming to an end, and if it seems inevitable that I am to pass, then I will embrace that.
Never will I sit back and say "well, if it happens, it happens." With that same logic somebody could justify standing in the middle of a rush-hour intersection with the words "Hit me, I dare you" written across their chest.
No, I aggree with you!
If I get the CHANCE to live I'll fight for it,I'll try to survive.
But if it's essentialy hopeles, I won't spent my last moments in despair, for example when I fall down somehing really high when you know you can't possibly survive, I'll just accept it.
and if it seems inevitable that I am to pass, then I will embrace that.
So basicly that.
'Death is not to be feared, for it is the only thing we all have in common". Interestingly I found that off a Pokemon fanfic. My point is, we're all gonna die anyway, so why be afraid of it? Does it matter there's something out there? Maybe. But we're going to have to go there sooner or later.
I aggree.
Capto
April 28th, 2014, 11:59 PM
I fear death because I live to live.
Typhlosion
April 29th, 2014, 10:13 AM
It is logical to look both ways when crossing a street.
Should we fear death? YES! It is the only existence we are certain of, and deep-inside, everyone is at least cautious of "second chances" or whatever. Which reminds me of this video (somewhat off-topic?)
dMaK6k4oZ20
Miserabilia
April 29th, 2014, 12:18 PM
It is logical to look both ways when crossing a street.
Should we fear death? YES! It is the only existence we are certain of, and deep-inside, everyone is at least cautious of "second chances" or whatever. Which reminds me of this video (somewhat off-topic?)
dMaK6k4oZ20
Seeing it's a darkmatter animation, I've probably already watched it a lot of times, I love his videos xD
The Trendy Wolf
April 29th, 2014, 06:00 PM
Is it rational to fear death?
It's something I've always wondered.
I've had discussions about this with people, and it seems that most people are afraid of death or not okay with it.
By my logic it's not rational to fear death; because death is nothingness, which sounds scary;
but there's not even a nothingness to fear, because there is no fear.
I am literaly okay with the thought that I could dy any moment, maybe right now, and not live and just be gone forever. I don't mind.
Because when there's only emptynes,
there's not even a me to observe this emptynes,
it's not like I'll think "oh it's so empty here",
it's just nothingnes, no fear no pain.
Anyone get what I mean?
/:
I feel like i'm really alone in this.
Technically, it's natural to fear death, as many may find the experience painful or tragic. The point of life is to live, after all, and who would want a good life to end? However, there comes a point in our lives when we must accept that we will not live forever, guaranteed, and fearing the inevitable, or an event that is out of our control, is irrational.
DarkOmega
April 29th, 2014, 06:37 PM
pretty normal although I personally just accept it .its not like we are going to get out of life alive :) ;) it happens to everybody ..
Miserabilia
April 30th, 2014, 02:00 AM
Technically, it's natural to fear death, as many may find the experience painful or tragic. The point of life is to live, after all, and who would want a good life to end? However, there comes a point in our lives when we must accept that we will not live forever, guaranteed, and fearing the inevitable, or an event that is out of our control, is irrational.
pretty normal although I personally just accept it .its not like we are going to get out of life alive :) ;) it happens to everybody ..
my thoughts too
CharlieHorse
April 30th, 2014, 02:06 AM
I get what you mean, but I think the reason why people (including myself) fear death is because life is all we know, and the unknown is, well, unknown, and scary.
Being dead probably wont be scary, but thinking about loosing life, and everything you care about is scary.
Miserabilia
April 30th, 2014, 06:48 AM
I get what you mean, but I think the reason why people (including myself) fear death is because life is all we know, and the unknown is, well, unknown, and scary.
Being dead probably wont be scary, but thinking about loosing life, and everything you care about is scary.
Yea, I see what you mean I guess.
Capto
April 30th, 2014, 06:20 PM
Well if not rational, it's natural to fear death.
killer_queen
May 17th, 2014, 04:27 PM
I don't fear death since I know where I'm going when I die.
^^ Totally agree!
I think that people fear death because nobody really knows what happens after it. There are so many religions that try to explain it, and it just gets so confusing because it's not something we can put our fingers on.
Also, I think people fear the pain of dying, too. Most people don't want to feel the kind of pain that would kill them. And you can make the argument that, if the pain kills you, then you die and you don't feel pain anymore, but I think that it's still rational to fear death because, by that logic, it wouldn't be rational to fear anything. I mean, if we're all going to die eventually, what's the point of having any concern?
But we all fear death. I think it's totally rational to be afraid of something so uncertain.
Baseball1999
May 17th, 2014, 10:46 PM
My biggest fear is death. Just the thought of not knowing when it will happen, or how. I guess its just the fear of not knowing. It's just crazy to think about what will happen when I die? I don't think I could ever accept death. I would always fight for my life, no matter what. When I do die, I just hope that its painless and I don't see it coming.
Miserabilia
May 18th, 2014, 02:24 AM
^^ Totally agree!
I think that people fear death because nobody really knows what happens after it. There are so many religions that try to explain it, and it just gets so confusing because it's not something we can put our fingers on.
Also, I think people fear the pain of dying, too. Most people don't want to feel the kind of pain that would kill them. And you can make the argument that, if the pain kills you, then you die and you don't feel pain anymore, but I think that it's still rational to fear death because, by that logic, it wouldn't be rational to fear anything. I mean, if we're all going to die eventually, what's the point of having any concern?
But we all fear death. I think it's totally rational to be afraid of something so uncertain.
. I mean, if we're all going to die eventually, what's the point of having any concern?
Well it's a bit of a philosophical thing, isn't it?
I think the answer is that as long as you live, you should give yourself the best life, and as long as others live, you should give them the best.
Once death is there, it's not going to leave; it's better to just accept it and make the best of the time before it.
"Do not pity the dead, pity the living"
My biggest fear is death. Just the thought of not knowing when it will happen, or how. I guess its just the fear of not knowing. It's just crazy to think about what will happen when I die? I don't think I could ever accept death. I would always fight for my life, no matter what. When I do die, I just hope that its painless and I don't see it coming.
I hope to die in a similar way.
Eddie.37
May 18th, 2014, 02:36 AM
I'm taking a psychology class, and we inevitably discussed this part of life.
I'm pretty scared of death myself. Sometimes, the thought of it comes creeping into my mind before i sleep, and i end up not being able to sleep.
Anyway, it's kinda normal to fear death right now when you're young since you still have a lot of life to live. But when you get old (65+) you review your life and find peace and embrace death when you feel like you lived a full life. But when you have too many regrets, you end up feeling scared since you still have much to do but time is running out.
rogoshtalmour
May 19th, 2014, 07:53 PM
I don't think it is rational to be afraid of the inevitable. If you can't accept the inevitable then you will have issues accepting a lot of things throughout your life. And you will never have peace. I mean say what you will about religion but the Serenity prayer is pretty cool. Especially where it says "help us to accept the things WE CANNOT CHANGE." I mean that is so wise and also just common sense.
Miserabilia
May 20th, 2014, 08:14 AM
I don't think it is rational to be afraid of the inevitable. If you can't accept the inevitable then you will have issues accepting a lot of things throughout your life. And you will never have peace. I mean say what you will about religion but the Serenity prayer is pretty cool. Especially where it says "help us to accept the things WE CANNOT CHANGE." I mean that is so wise and also just common sense.
I aggree
bob97
May 23rd, 2014, 07:12 PM
For me it just sucks that no matter what I do it doesn't mean anything. And its not just emptiness its absolute nothing. You aren't you anymore. That sucks. I'm going through a stage right now where I get really depressed bc of it :/
variantwarrior
May 25th, 2014, 11:53 PM
The fear of death is natural, but not logical. Personally, I'm okay with the thought, as long as my death wasn't pointless. For example, I would take a bullet if it would save many others, or even one other. Then again, I'd also sacrifice one to save many. I'm afraid that I'll just disappear from the world, not leaving a single mark. Really, what I'm afraid of is being forgotten, and I think that that goes for many others, too.
Vocabulous
May 26th, 2014, 12:00 AM
I don't fear death, but I'd rather it didn't happen yet. I have some things to attend to.
Abyssal Echo
May 26th, 2014, 01:07 AM
I don't fear it. I try not to think about it too much. I know like everyone else eventually I'll have to face/deal with it.
flappybird
May 26th, 2014, 01:23 AM
For everything you have comes the risk of losing it. Life is one of those things. Embrace death with open arms.
Miserabilia
May 26th, 2014, 09:46 AM
For everything you have comes the risk of losing it. Life is one of those things. Embrace death with open arms.
Same as I thought. Well maybe not with open arms, but acceptence haha :P
CosmicNoodle
May 26th, 2014, 09:49 AM
I have no fear of death what so ever, but then again I do spend 90% of my time feeling suicidal so you know :P
Edit;
Since posting this has weighed on my mind and I mist readesss it. The fear of death is hardwired into every creature on earth. Mostly, it is proven it is possible to break that, as I, and many other people have. Be it suicide or mental ilness ect ect.
So yes, it must be rational to fear death. But I don't think it's death we fear, as far as I can tell its the unknown. We dont know what's going to happen. Well, we do, but how will it feel, what will we think? What will everyone else think?
As far as I think, its not rational to fear death. Your not getting away from it so just accept it.
Not sure how much sense I made then but thats it
tovaris
May 26th, 2014, 10:38 AM
tthe fear of deyth is your preservation instinct talkin,
if an individual is weary of diing thy are more oikely to pass on their geens,
Sir Suomi
May 27th, 2014, 06:43 PM
It's uncomfortable to think about death, especially from a non-religious point of view like mine. I mean, just the idea of just not existing anymore makes me feel not exactly scarred but uncertain. I can see how religions promising life after death are so tempting to so many. But also having the mindset that I only live once makes me appreciate my life more, and makes me want to live every day like it's my last, with no regrets.
Miserabilia
May 28th, 2014, 09:07 AM
It's uncomfortable to think about death, especially from a non-religious point of view like mine. I mean, just the idea of just not existing anymore makes me feel not exactly scarred but uncertain. I can see how religions promising life after death are so tempting to so many. But also having the mindset that I only live once makes me appreciate my life more, and makes me want to live every day like it's my last, with no regrets.
I aggree.
I have no fear of death what so ever, but then again I do spend 90% of my time feeling suicidal so you know :P
Edit;
Since posting this has weighed on my mind and I mist readesss it. The fear of death is hardwired into every creature on earth. Mostly, it is proven it is possible to break that, as I, and many other people have. Be it suicide or mental ilness ect ect.
So yes, it must be rational to fear death. But I don't think it's death we fear, as far as I can tell its the unknown. We dont know what's going to happen. Well, we do, but how will it feel, what will we think? What will everyone else think?
As far as I think, its not rational to fear death. Your not getting away from it so just accept it.
Not sure how much sense I made then but thats it
Yes the fear is natural because of our fear of the unknown.
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