Rules regarding non-sexual nude photography?

[ProudTeenNudist]

Hi. As you may know from some of my other posts (and quite obviously, my name), I am a nudist. As someone not afraid of baring it all, I would like to ask about the rules about nude photography on the site.

First off, I understand that when people say "nudity" some immediately think "sex". This is untrue. I have been a nudist my entire life, and just because I'm in the buff doesn't mean I'm doing the nasty with somebody.

I believe that nudity is something natural, and it should be accepted. Everyone is born naked, and there's nothing bad about that, so why does it suddenly become unacceptable later in life? Plus, clothes were invented for warmth, not to cover our parts.

Obviously, photography of a sexual act shouldn't be permitted, but non-sexual nude photography is something I feel should be allowed on the site.

Also obviously, some people won't accept this. So there could be a feature where, if a topic contains a nude photo of somebody, anyone who reads the topic will get a warning beforehand stating that what they are about to see contains nudity. This way, if it's something they're offended about, they can leave.

Like I said, I feel plain nude photography should be permitted. But images of sexual acts are a no-go.

[LunarScorpio]

The issue with nude photos on the internet is that at your age is that is counts as child porn.

Which is illegal for the sake of it.

Personally, I can see where you are coming from, but seriously it is not a good idea at all.

EDIT: I should add if you post a nude, you will certainly be banned... :p

[StoppingTime]

What you're describing itself is, as far as I'm aware, not strictly pornography, but on the Internet and in most of the "real world" outside of legalese, that's meaningless. What I mean is that photographs containing nude individuals (and in your case, it'd be a minor) which were not taken in the style of, or infer a pornographic message technically don't constitute as "pornography". The problem with this, of course, is that it's incredibly difficult to actually define what pornography is, as different individuals will interpret it in different ways. This similar problem comes up with those under the legal age who participate (consensually) in different forms of art in which they're depicted naked. While the artist might not have intended for this work to be seen as pornography, people still will see it this way (and furthermore the child could've been victim of sexual abuse regardless of consent) and therefore it becomes child pornography.

So how does this relate to your situation? While it seems you wouldn't be advocating for the posting of nude images of underage individuals to be used in a pornographic sense, (and I certainly hope you're not) it simply doesn't matter what you intend for these photos to be viewed as you're on the Internet and people won't simply agree with your definitions. Some individuals will always see them as pornographic in nature (whether or not they are is a debate for another time) - therefore making those images child pornography, which as mentioned, is something that we will have absolutely nothing to do with.

[Pulp501]

The issue with nude photos on the internet is that at your age is that is counts as child porn.

Which is illegal for the sake of it.

Personally, I can see where you are coming from, but seriously it is not a good idea at all.

EDIT: I should add if you post a nude, you will certainly be banned... :p

It's not child porn, unless it's in a sexual pose. Just standing around naked is perfectly legal on the internet. But like others said, some people view it like that anyways, and it's best to just not post it. Some people aren't comfortable seeing that and others are a little too comfortable if you know what I mean.

[PinkFloyd]

While I agree with what you're saying, bottom line is that until you're 18, it's child pornography, thus making it highly illegal.

[ksdnfkfr]

Plus, clothes were invented for warmth, not to cover our parts.

I'm going to disagree with that because with a lot of primitive tribes in warm climates, the only clothing they wear are loin cloths to cover their parts.

As far as nude photography here goes, if I posted a picture of a guy in just a pair of briefs, that would be inappropriate as well. I'd like to believe there is nothing sexual about an unclothed or partially clothed body, and horny teens aren't going to use it for masturbation material, but it's just simply is not true.

It's not child porn, unless it's in a sexual pose. Just standing around naked is perfectly legal on the internet.

No it is not. Please do not make stuff up.

[Pulp501]

No it is not. Please do not make stuff up.
Yes it is, I'm not making anything up. Maybe we are from different places, but in US, it's not illegal. There are naked pictures of kids on the internet, and it's not child porn. It has to be sexual to be child porn. Nudity isn't sexual by itself.

[StoppingTime]

It's not child porn, unless it's in a sexual pose. Just standing around naked is perfectly legal on the internet. But like others said, some people view it like that anyways, and it's best to just not post it. Some people aren't comfortable seeing that and others are a little too comfortable if you know what I mean.

Yes it is, I'm not making anything up. Maybe we are from different places, but in US, it's not illegal. There are naked pictures of kids on the internet, and it's not child porn. It has to be sexual to be child porn. Nudity isn't sexual by itself.

As I mentioned, in the legal, non-real world approach to this matter, no it 'technically' wouldn't be if there's no sexual implication implied. But the problem is that it simply doesn't matter what was implied because a naked picture of essentially anyone can be turned into pornographic material despite what you personally might believe, which is why any naked pictures of anyone under 18 is almost entirely considered child pornography.

[ksdnfkfr]

Yes it is, I'm not making anything up. Maybe we are from different places, but in US, it's not illegal. There are naked pictures of kids on the internet, and it's not child porn. It has to be sexual to be child porn. Nudity isn't sexual by itself.

Dude, I'm from Las Vegas. And pictures of nude kids is illegal. If it wasn't nude kid pictures would be selling like hotcakes in Vegas tourist gift shops.

[Karkat]

Yes it is, I'm not making anything up. Maybe we are from different places, but in US, it's not illegal. There are naked pictures of kids on the internet, and it's not child porn. It has to be sexual to be child porn. Nudity isn't sexual by itself.

Actually, whoever owns/took the pictures could still go to jail for child pornography. There's actually an article about a mom who almost went to jail for taking an innocent, but mostly naked picture of her three year old daughter.

It depends on the circumstances, and who fights it. Ultimately, it's the court's decision.

But either way, it's inappropriate on a teen forum. If this was an 18+, and all the subjects were age 18 or older, it'd be a different story.

[ksdnfkfr]

All I can say is, whoever is downloading these pictures they say they're finding on the internet, might not fair too well if anyone ever examines their hard drive. Like techs in a repair shop, cause they'd likely call the police to come have a look at what they came across.

[Rallo]

According to the rules (linked below) a shirtless picture showing only above your waist is allowed for males.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/faq.php?faq=rules#faq_content

Posting Pictures and Albums: Members may post photographs of themselves either on the forums or in designated places that include: avatars, profile pictures, and the VT Photo Album in The White Padded Room.
Permitted:

Pictures of yourself shirtless (guys) or in a bikini top while wearing either pants or shorts for girls.
Pictures of yourself shirtless (guys) or in a bikini.
Pictures of yourself shirtless (guys) or in a bikini in a mirror shot showing full body from the waist up including face.

Not permitted:

Pictures in a sexual pose for example hands on your crotch, hands on your breast.
Pictures of yourself in your underwear/bra
Pictures taken of just your body (faceless)
Pictures of another person without you in the picture.
Pictures not of you with the intent to deceive others into thinking it really is you.
Pictures that depict, deface or humiliate a person(s) in any way.
For girls: Topless pictures are not allowed even if they aren't taken in a sexual way.

[Infidelitas]

We are not a forum devoted to nudity. If we were, it would be an 18+ website.

Photos of minors, even though you might think it is not sexual, people make them sexual. There area lot of creepy horrible people who browse forums like this looking for children like you who are willing to post nude photos. You can never trust who anyone is on the internet and if you post nude photos of yourself, you are opening yourself up to people abusing your trust and taking advantage of your willingness to share nude photos.
Even giving up your specific location to people off of the internet can open you up for abuse. An example of that is: You tell a person that you are from Placetown, California. Your hobbies include walking your dog at the beach alone, and you do it at 6am every day. These people will look up your town, see that there is only one beach in Placetown California and be waiting for you and your dog at 6am.

I know that example is extreme, but the internet is a dark place and no one should be trusted, and kids like you who "innocent" nude photos on the internet is how children get abused.


Long story short, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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[ImCoolBeans]

Absolutely not. If you want to post nudist photos, you can go do that on a nudist forum. This is a help site for teenagers, not somewhere to post that kind of stuff.

I'm not going to get into legal trouble because you want to post dick pics online, sorry.

[ChrisTJ]

I'm not going to get into legal trouble because you want to post dick pics online, sorry.

Well said :)

[DrEdwardRichtofen]

But, what if he just wants to show people how he lives not just to fap to penis pics?
just sayin

[StoppingTime]

But, what if he just wants to show people how he lives not just to fap to penis pics?
just sayin

Then he can explore those options offsite. VT simply will not be used for that purpose. There's not much more to it

[Meganium]

But, what if he just wants to show people how he lives not just to fap to penis pics?
just sayin

We already probably get enough questionable people here who seek that kind of stuff anyway. Doing this would be providing them with it and breaking the law.

Additionally, there's no reason why OP can't elaborate on his naturist lifestyle without showing pictures of himself. I believe his intentions are good, but regardless, it cannot work here, or really, most other places on the internet.

[ImCoolBeans]

But, what if he just wants to show people how he lives not just to fap to penis pics?
just sayin

This is one topic that is not open for reasoning. It's a firm no. That is not going to be allowed under any circumstance. I don't really care if it is non-sexual or not, Virtual Teen will not have it. That is going to open a big, new can of worms and legal issues, it is not happening.