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Professional Russian
April 15th, 2014, 05:32 PM
What is the point if owning a diesel without having a use for it? It cost more for fuel. Costs more to fix. And won't run as long if you don't work it. Don't get me wrong I drove multiple diesels but they all either have a trailer on the back or have something in the bed. Never do I drive one without weight in it.
Ethe14
April 15th, 2014, 05:49 PM
Diesels can have very good range and mpg. My family used to own a audi Q7 diesel and we got excellent mpg and range. They also might last longer depending on the manufacturer. For example mercedes diesels are extremely robust.
Gamma Male
April 15th, 2014, 05:59 PM
They're extremely useful for blasting thick, smelly black smoke at the cars behind you and making yourself look like an ass. That's about it though.
Abyssal Echo
April 15th, 2014, 06:07 PM
The point is they get better fuel mileage. my truck has a gas engine and a manual trans in it and it only gets about 12 mpg. My moms truck has a diesel and an automatic and it gets 21 mpg. I should change my oil and filter every 3 months or 3,000 miles she has hers done every 5,000 miles. we both have air and fuel filters that need to be changed so wheres the all the extra costs. yes gas is cheaper (3.699) then diesel fuel (4.059) but I use more gas in my truck then she uses diesel fuel in hers.
thathelperguy
April 15th, 2014, 06:18 PM
The point is they get better fuel mileage. my truck has a gas engine and a manual trans in it and it only gets about 12 mpg. My moms truck has a diesel and an automatic and it gets 21 mpg. I should change my oil and filter every 3 months or 3,000 miles she has hers done every 5,000 miles. we both have air and fuel filters that need to be changed so wheres the all the extra costs. yes gas is cheaper (3.699) then diesel fuel (4.059) but I use more gas in my truck then she uses diesel fuel in hers.
Sounds like it evens out in the long run, so there isn't any real difference besides maybe a few more miles per gallon.
Abyssal Echo
April 15th, 2014, 06:36 PM
Sounds like it evens out in the long run, so there isn't any real difference besides maybe a few more miles per gallon.
theres a big difference mpg wise she gets almost double the mpg that I do so I use almost twice as much fuel. To go to my uncles farm my truck uses about 2 and a 1/4 tanks thats about 45 gallons of gas one way she can get there on less than one tank about 21 gallons of diesel. obviously cheaper to run her truck
Professional Russian
April 15th, 2014, 07:19 PM
No I'm talking like a Cummins, power stroke, duramaxx diesel. The ones that are made to be worked. Not the 1.5L turbos they put in Audi's and BMWs
IAMWILL
April 15th, 2014, 09:04 PM
Even diesels in big trucks can get pretty good mpg...my friend has a newer F350 on 37s and he still gets 18-20mpg. Diesels also usually last much longer than gasoline engines, not sure why you say the opposite. Usually diesels will run for 300k easy with routine maintenance while most gasoline engines struggle to reach 300k. Most gas engines don't make it past 200k.
The question of "why by a diesel truck if you're not going to use it" really applies to all trucks in general. Even for small trucks that don't have to tow huge loads (talking F150/Ranger/Tacoma types) diesels make a lot more sense because they last longer, get better mileage, and have plenty of torque even from small engines. That's why most trucks/large cars sold outside America have diesels instead of large displacement V8s. Really it seems the only reason they're not offered in America yet is the stigma that diesels are "dirty" and loud, even though some new diesels cars can barely be told apart from their gasoline counterparts, and maybe because the price for diesel is a bit higher but thats mostly because there is not a lot of diesel exported to America because of the lack of diesel cars, so its currently less profitable for stations to offer diesel rather than gasoline. That could certainly change in the future though with more diesels coming to America.
Ethe14
April 15th, 2014, 09:09 PM
No I'm talking like a Cummins, power stroke, duramaxx diesel. The ones that are made to be worked. Not the 1.5L turbos they put in Audi's and BMWs
Diesels are extremely reliable, many trucks will have more than 300,000 miles on them. And again the range, they can go very far on only one tank of gas. Also the low end torque you get from diesels is great. Really they are very useful from luxury cars to heavy duty trucks.
Also by the way Audi doesn't make a 1.5L turbo diesel, the smallest they have is a 1.8L turbo diesel, BMW doesn't have one either.
Professional Russian
April 17th, 2014, 06:33 AM
Diesels are extremely reliable, many trucks will have more than 300,000 miles on them. And again the range, they can go very far on only one tank of gas. Also the low end torque you get from diesels is great. Really they are very useful from luxury cars to heavy duty trucks.
Also by the way Audi doesn't make a 1.5L turbo diesel, the smallest they have is a 1.8L turbo diesel, BMW doesn't have one either.
You get the point. But that engine will only last to 300,000 miles if you work. Driving it around with no load on it is bad for the engine.
Plane And Simple
April 17th, 2014, 07:27 AM
You get the point. But that engine will only last to 300,000 miles if you work. Driving it around with no load on it is bad for the engine.
Better fuel economy
more torque at low revs
And let me tell you, pulling the car itself is enough load. And another thing you're wrong at, diesels do last a lot more than gas engines. look at Taxi cars. no load except 2 to 4 passengers and heaps of KMs.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/fCJ_zeqqKTI/maxresdefault.jpg
The philosophy is: Uner 10000 miles per year/15000km = Gas engine
Over that amount of km/m per year = Diesel engine.
It's not about pulling loads.
Diesels are extremely reliable, many trucks will have more than 300,000 miles on them. And again the range, they can go very far on only one tank of gas. Also the low end torque you get from diesels is great. Really they are very useful from luxury cars to heavy duty trucks.
Also by the way Audi doesn't make a 1.5L turbo diesel, the smallest they have is a 1.8L turbo diesel, BMW doesn't have one either.
Audi makes 1.6l TDI, 1.4l TDI and 1.2l TDI. ;)
Ethe14
April 17th, 2014, 07:29 AM
Better fuel economy
more torque at low revs
And let me tell you, pulling the car itself is enough load. And another thing you're wrong at, diesels do last a lot more than gas engines. look at Taxi cars. no load except 2 to 4 passengers and heaps of KMs.
image (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/fCJ_zeqqKTI/maxresdefault.jpg)
The philosophy is: Uner 10000 miles per year/15000km = Gas engine
Over that amount of km/m per year = Diesel engine.
It's not about pulling loads.
Audi makes 1.6l TDI, 1.4l TDI and 1.2l TDI. ;)
Oh right in the A1 right? I was completely forgetting those, I was thinking A4 and up.
Infidelitas
April 17th, 2014, 07:31 AM
You get the point. But that engine will only last to 300,000 miles if you work. Driving it around with no load on it is bad for the engine.
My Grandfather had a Ford F100 and in the end it had 800,000km on it. It never got used more than an A to B in it's life.
They do last without working them.
Plane And Simple
April 17th, 2014, 08:36 AM
Oh right in the A1 right? I was completely forgetting those, I was thinking A4 and up.
Yup in the A1 and the old A2
Professional Russian
April 17th, 2014, 08:58 AM
My Grandfather had a Ford F100 from new and in the end it had 800,000km on it. It never got used more than an A to B in it's life.
They do last without working them.
I'm not talking about working on them. I'm talking about working the engine.
Infidelitas
April 17th, 2014, 08:17 PM
I'm not talking about working on them. I'm talking about working the engine.
The engine DIDN'T get worked. That was what I was talking about.
LifeOfLove
April 17th, 2014, 09:26 PM
The MPG difference between regular gas and diesel is enough of a reason to go for a diesel!
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