Mary Magdalene

[Lovelife090994]

Many people have heard of Mary Magdalene but do we really know about her? First, who was she? If you know a fair bit about her then you might believe that she is the Mother of Christianity, a disciple of Christ, and even a woman who could very well have made the difference between how women and men are viewed in the eyes of the Church forever. But to know who she was is hard given how varied her story is as well as how corrupted it has become. Some saw her as a threat to men in power, some call her a heratic and prostitue and forget the truth of her history. To talk on Mary Magdalene is more to talk of her and how she tells of Christ's resurrection, and more of her sainthood, but also it talks on her roles and women and the time with the various churches.

What do you know of her? This is more of a ramble and civil sharing of ideas. Arguing will not be tolerated. If I see arguing then I will see this thread closed at my request to one with the power to end it so.

[Gamma Male]

There's like an 80% chance she's just completely made up.

[Harry Smith]

I believe according to the Da Vinci code that she was a prostitute, who slept with and had children with Jesus

[Lovelife090994]

There's like an 80% chance she's just completely made up.

So you'd rather dismiss her rather than looking into history? You'd rather sit and say she's a fallacy? A person with so much opposition must be important. She is one of the most influential women in history and yet you gave a cold comment? Why?

I believe according to the Da Vinci code that she was a prostitute, who slept with and had children with Jesus

Half of that belief is actually one that has been found but dismissed by the Church for years. Did Mary marry Jesus? Did they have children? The idea of her as a prostitue was from an old sermon years ago in Britain and also enforced by Luke rather than Mark.

Merged double post. -Cygnus David

[Harry Smith]

So you'd rather dismiss her rather than looking into history? You'd rather sit and say she's a fallacy? A person with so much opposition must be important. She is one of the most influential women in history and yet you gave a cold comment? Why?

He didn't give her a cold comment-she's dead. He said that she's probably not real-he's allowed to say that.

She isn't the most influential women in History, well at least not in my opinion. All she did was open her legs for Jesus, I'd say women such as Elizabeth I, Joan of Arc, Queen Victoria and Boduka had much of an impact

Half of that belief is actually one that has been found but dismissed by the Church for years. Did Mary marry Jesus? Did they have children? The idea of her as a prostitue was from an old sermon years ago in Britain and also enforced by Luke rather than Mark.

13th-century Cistercian monk and chronicler Peter of Vaux de Cernay claimed it was part of Catharist belief that the earthly Jesus Christ had a relationship with Mary Magdalene, described as his concubine. Quote: "Further, in their secret meetings they said that the Christ who was born in the earthly and visible Bethlehem and crucified at Jerusalem was 'evil', and that Mary Magdalene was his concubine.

The idea of her being a prostitute was actually discussed in the 13th century by a French monk

[Lovelife090994]

He didn't give her a cold comment-she's dead. He said that she's probably not real-he's allowed to say that.

She isn't the most influential women in History, well at least not in my opinion. All she did was open her legs for Jesus, I'd say women such as Elizabeth I, Joan of Arc, Queen Victoria and Boduka had much of an impact

Mary basically is the Mother of Christianity. Christianity is one of the most foloowed religions in history. Yes, Joan of Arc and the many queens are definitely important as well, but I must impress that even religious history has import.

[Gamma Male]

So you'd rather dismiss her rather than looking into history? You'd rather sit and say she's a fallacy? A person with so much opposition must be important. She is one of the most influential women in history and yet you gave a cold comment? Why?

All I'm saying is there's not really much evidence for her existence. For other historical figures like Alexander the great, Plato, and King Tut there is all sorts of direct evidence, both physical and circumstantial. There are letters, etchings, moldings, surviving works, and multiple secondary sources and artifacts that have been directly linked to them. But for Mary Magdalene as well as most biblical characters there is only the writings of one or two authors.

[Harry Smith]

Mary basically is the Mother of Christianity. Christianity is one of the most foloowed religions in history. Yes, Joan of Arc and the many queens are definitely important as well, but I must impress that even religious history has import.

I thought Marry as in the mother of Jesus was the most importnat?

I still don't see how Mary Magdalene is the most important women in history-what did she actually do apart from sleep with Jesus and find his body in a rock?

[Gamma Male]

Mary basically is the Mother of Christianity. Christianity is one of the most foloowed religions in history. Yes, Joan of Arc and the many queens are definitely important as well, but I must impress that even religious history has import.

I suppose Hercules and Rhamus were also important historical figures then? What about Sherlock Holmes or Lord Zenu? I'm not trying to purposely disrespect your religion, I'm just stating the facts. Mary Magdalene is not a historical figure, because her existence is not supported by any evidence save a couple of authors.

[Emerald Dream]

Wow, someone starts a religion thread so we automatically have to attack it, mock it, and make the OP feel like their opinion doesn't matter. Real mature here.

If you have nothing to HONESTLY add to a religion discussion, then don't post. Because what some of you are doing is borderline trolling and harassing.

[Gigablue]

I don't really think we can say much. There really isn't any good, historically reliable evidence that tells us about her. There are no contemporary writings of her. The earliest writings (early versions of the bible) were written many years after the events they describe.

Time twists history. The more history is copied, the more it is interpreted, and thus, the more distorted it becomes. When documents are translated and transcribed countless times over several thousand years, details are bound to be lost.

What can we say for sure? Very little. Maybe as we discover more historical and archaeological evidence, we will be able to say more. Did she exist? Probably. Did she play an important role in early Christianity? Probably. Was she a prostitute? Maybe, maybe not. Some sources say yes, others no. Was she a threat to the power of men at the time? Maybe. We don't really know.

It's possible that we never will find more evidence, and that we won't be able to answer these questions. We can speculate, but we must be careful to separate speculation from fact.

[Lovelife090994]

Wow, someone starts a religion thread so we automatically have to attack it, mock it, and make the OP feel like their opinion doesn't matter. Real mature here.

If you have nothing to HONESTLY add to a religion discussion, then don't post. Because what some of you are doing is borderline trolling and harassing.

Thanks, but honestly this may be my fault. I wanted to make a thread on Mary Magdalene because her history has influenced a lot. Also if she was mentioned more for what she was, a woman of power then maybe society and the Church would see women different. I guess no one wants to acknowledge that since religious topics are troll-able. Hmm, can you or someone else close this thread. The people above clearly do not wish to add these ideas.

[Emerald Dream]

Locked at OP request, unfortunately. It's too bad, honestly...because there was potential for an actual discussion here. :locked: