So...social media ire and more

[Uniquemind]

Pultost

This is months old news now, but I’m tagging you because I recalled you liked Star Wars.

For this first topic in this thread, I wanted to address the months old outrage and discontent about Disney’s take on Star Wars the “high republic”.

Pre-media teases and post-media marketing reveals.

I also want to compare contrast where we last left off about talking about Star Wars and the quality of media in general and if fan outrage with what was happening in general to various intellectual media properties/brands, is more warranted in retrospect, whereas in the past critics of what was happening were written-off as just “bigoted or older generation” people.


Others are free to join the conversation as well.

[Pultost]

I'm honestly not sure what to make of all this, but I can say as much that what I dislike about Disney's "monopoly" on Star Wars these days, is that everything Star Wars related will be exclusively on Disney+, a channel I don't have. :P

[julia1234]

I think that most of what is done today goes beyond the movies and they look to make sales from everything else related to it.
Alot of the Disney stuff has them in trouble. And not just Star Wars. But now even Marvel and that universe. I just saw a youtube on Start Wars and Marvel lands at Disney. They look cool but it is all about the money. You can even build a lightsaber but they said it cost $250. So n the end who really is the crazy one.

[Uniquemind]

I think many companies in today’s climate are overestimating how much brand-addiction they really have into their fan base. And for some cultural-political-advertising reasons they’ve caused a large part of they’re paying fan base (people who were monied and willing to spend) to not longer find those brands fun or story-enriching.

I think the term was virtue signaling within brands or stories that feel unnatural to the story or property.



Regarding the “High Republic” what got a lot of flack is that one of the main characters was literally a “rock” with a name and it was kinda positioned as their attempt at creating a non-binary character.

Which signals kinda an incomprehension of what non-binary is...it’s why in generations past I think brands shouldn’t try to be political?

[BJade]

I think it's a problem with most films, franchises and other things. Having one thing that's successful and trying to get as many spinoffs and merchandising as possible. Which doesn't always work, just because one thing is successful doesn't mean everything connected to the name will succeed. It happens with films, actors, music, video games...

Star Wars was originally so crazy an idea that it nearly never happened because commercially it was to different to the normal at the time, and was thought to be to risky. And unfortunately that's still a problem now, original ideas that could be the next cult classic are commercially harder to sell to a board than a multi million dollar franchise headed by "successful" actors, directed by a well known person

[Uniquemind]

I think it's a problem with most films, franchises and other things. Having one thing that's successful and trying to get as many spinoffs and merchandising as possible. Which doesn't always work, just because one thing is successful doesn't mean everything connected to the name will succeed. It happens with films, actors, music, video games...

Star Wars was originally so crazy an idea that it nearly never happened because commercially it was to different to the normal at the time, and was thought to be to risky. And unfortunately that's still a problem now, original ideas that could be the next cult classic are commercially harder to sell to a board than a multi million dollar franchise headed by "successful" actors, directed by a well known person

I think it’s totally worth the effort to launch new original IP’s though. Like the race swapping and gender swapping, and plot swapping is kinda seen by audiences as cheap quality.

And well here stuff like this activist-criticism is ruining some films too.

Take a look at how this youtuber pointed out their opinions of problems with toy story 4.

https://youtu.be/odTgfPD6Zog

[julia1234]

Here is another example of 2 stories as told from different studios. Caution the middle part of the video may make you cry.

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[Uniquemind]

Here’s a link to a 4 hour video from a youtube channel group that regularly talks about the workplace politics dynamics of the entertainment industry.

It really shows how many companies are getting influenced in a bad way to make unfair business decisions (that affect the products consumers buy) from the foundation of what intersectionality, and Critical-Race Theory started.

There are diversity quota hires and stuff that are done rashly, without thinking of how it affects the creative process, marketability, and profitability of people’s creative intellectual property and brands.


https://youtu.be/YeeCh1qzrtc