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AwesomeLawand
April 8th, 2014, 09:05 AM
Is it me or do you think that music these days are promoting satanism?

Typhlosion
April 8th, 2014, 09:55 AM
Depends on your view on what is "music" and what is "satanism".

If you define "music" as all the mainstream hits going around then no, "music" does not promote satanism neither in its Laveyan form or theistic form. You could argue that such "music" does, many times, include degradation of self and morals and can somewhat be seen as anti-christian.
Somewhat.
Notice how the christian followers have changed over the years and some biblical/church conformities are no longer followed by any notably large enough group of mainstream christians.

If "music" means all music in general, then I can say that there are two sides of the coin. There are those who sing about Yahweh and those who sing about Satan as those who sing about Allah and those who sing about Hinduism and those who sing about Odin and those... Music is a universal concept and can, has been and should be adapted to any religious practice/theme that the compositor desires. Disagreeing that Satanist music should not exist is the same as denying one to access of a philosophy and way of life he desires, just because christianity is the majority does not outlaw any other religion.

But I digress. The answer is simply "Is what you're listening to promote satanism?"

AwesomeLawand
April 8th, 2014, 10:00 AM
Im talking about mainstream music... Such as Lady Gaga or Kesha.

ksdnfkfr
April 8th, 2014, 10:05 AM
These days? Non-gospel music has always been considered of the Devil by religious fundamentalists. My dad was telling me when he was a kid how big of a deal they made out of KISS and how satanic they were. Was just musicians in Kabuki makeup putting on a show. And they really freaked over Ozzy Osbourne. I mean does anyone these days think he's really an evil satanic person? It's just showmanship.
That goes for Lady Gaga or Kesha etc too.

Syvelocin
April 8th, 2014, 03:35 PM
Umm. I barely know anything about her and I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga is some form of Christian.

I don't get this question, cause even the "satanic" artists aren't satanists. The closest you'll get is Marilyn Manson, but I've watched many an interview with him and while he does tend to hold similar beliefs to LaVey, his only association with the church is the silly title he gave MM. Some interviews I've seen actually give very mixed messages on the state of his religion (whether atheist or theist). Of course, I can't speak for some of the metal bands who could really be satanists, just in my experience, either they are being posers or trying to shock with the satanic symbolism or other people are uneducated and wouldn't know a satanist when they see one.

xxdrakeTxx
April 8th, 2014, 05:05 PM
first off unless you are listening to black metal heavy metal screamo or deathcore than satanism isnt in your style of music now if you listen to mainstream pop music than katty perry or someone like that than they may use some symbols asociated with satanism such as the egyptian eye and so on and so fourth but as for promoting it i dont think so im a spirtual satanist who also follows anton lavey teachings of the more widely known laveyan satanism . as for them expressing anti christian values than yes that is correct

Typhlosion
April 8th, 2014, 05:13 PM
first off unless you are listening to black metal heavy metal screamo or deathcore than satanism isnt in your style of music now if you listen to mainstream pop music than katty perry or someone like that than they may use some symbols asociated with satanism such as the egyptian eye and so on and so fourth but as for promoting it i dont think so im a spirtual satanist who also follows anton lavey teachings of the more widely known laveyan satanism . as for them expressing anti christian values than yes that is correct In what universe heavy metal, screamo, deathcore or black metal are automatically satanist or the eye of egypt is a satanist symbol??? Also, why can't power metal be satanist? :(

I understand that many Heavy Metal songs play with the themes of hell and devil and Black Metal is traditionally founded on satanism (but now it's also so diverse), but I can't see screamo or deathcore receive either generalizations.

xxdrakeTxx
April 8th, 2014, 05:31 PM
In what universe heavy metal, screamo, deathcore or black metal are automatically satanist or the eye of egypt is a satanist symbol??? Also, why can't power metal be satanist? :(

I understand that many Heavy Metal songs play with the themes of hell and devil and Black Metal is traditionally founded on satanism (but now it's also so diverse), but I can't see screamo or deathcore receive either generalizations.

im using those as blanket terms cause rock and heavy metal music is extremly diverse and there are tons of anti god, pseudo satanists in each of those genres . again im not saying all of them are like that . and there are satanic deathcore bands as in most other forms of rock. and traditionally most heavy metal was for shock value , slayer iron maiden kiss black sabbath alice cooper were all shock value . and like you said its diverse there are tons of bands in each genre of music i mentioned and some of which do play satanic occult themed music most rock music isnt god based hints why churches hate it with a passion . oh great satanic themed band is behmoth

Karkat
April 8th, 2014, 05:35 PM
These days? Non-gospel music has always been considered of the Devil by religious fundamentalists. My dad was telling me when he was a kid how big of a deal they made out of KISS and how satanic they were. Was just musicians in Kabuki makeup putting on a show. And they really freaked over Ozzy Osbourne. I mean does anyone these days think he's really an evil satanic person? It's just showmanship.
That goes for Lady Gaga or Kesha etc too.

Er, that's not exactly Kabuki makeup- Kabuki is traditional theatre makeup in Japan ._.

But other than that, I agree.

Aajj333
April 8th, 2014, 09:31 PM
Not one bit lol its funny you mention this because all music throughout the yearns has been accused of satanism.

JDubs
April 8th, 2014, 10:56 PM
The simple answer is yes. Mainstream music in general may not be directly satanic, but a lot of songs are meant to distract the public from God, and confuse us on what's right (if you believe in God) but that is supposed to happen anyway, cuz it's in the Bible, and it means the end is near.
Unfortunately, a lot of the good stuff has to be bad, and the bad stuff (that nobody really likes) is "good". For example, I'm am very Christian, and I like deathcore. Not the vocals, but the instrumental parts. It is awesome to me, but of course, a lot of it is satanic, therefore, I cant/shouldn't listen to it. It's good to my ears, bad to my soul. On the other hand I don't particularly like Christian music, but it is "good"
So, not all mainstream music is bad. Just understand what the song is about

ksdnfkfr
April 8th, 2014, 11:01 PM
My grandpa said when the Beach Boys came out fundamentalists were saying their music was vulgar and satanic etc. Made a big deal out of the song I Get Around. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPL5OXSBNE) No joke.

Karkat
April 8th, 2014, 11:03 PM
My grandpa said when the Beach Boys came out fundamentalists were saying their music was vulgar and satanic etc. Made a big deal out of the song I Get Around. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPL5OXSBNE) No joke.

I'm laughing, but I know you're right.

ksdnfkfr
April 8th, 2014, 11:15 PM
I'm laughing, but I know you're right.

It was one of those things where kept asking "are you serious?"

EddietheZombie
April 9th, 2014, 12:17 AM
Depends on the music. Black Metal, yes. Pop, no. There is Metal that is about religion (Viking Metal, White Metal, ect). Really I don't think it matters what music you listen to, as long as you don't embrace it as a belief. I'm Christian, but I still listen to Black Sabbath, Danzig, ect.
The simple answer is yes. Mainstream music in general may not be directly satanic, but a lot of songs are meant to distract the public from God, and confuse us on what's right (if you believe in God) but that is supposed to happen anyway, cuz it's in the Bible, and it means the end is near.
Unfortunately, a lot of the good stuff has to be bad, and the bad stuff (that nobody really likes) is "good". For example, I'm am very Christian, and I like deathcore. Not the vocals, but the instrumental parts. It is awesome to me, but of course, a lot of it is satanic, therefore, I cant/shouldn't listen to it. It's good to my ears, bad to my soul. On the other hand I don't particularly like Christian music, but it is "good"
So, not all mainstream music is bad. Just understand what the song is about
I have a similar theory, but I believe it is to distract people from what the politicians are doing. Yours makes some sense to though.

radsniper
April 9th, 2014, 12:50 AM
i say no it is not

Gamma Male
April 9th, 2014, 01:53 AM
No. No it isn't. Even bands like Black Sabbath and Creature Feature who use seemingly Satanic symbols are only using them because they look cool. Most Metal musicians are some form of nonreligious humanitarian, but a lot are Christians.

You sound sorta like an 80's Christian soccermom. Lol.

Dalcourt
April 9th, 2014, 07:13 AM
New and popular music has always been accused of promoting satanism. When something's new and you are too old to understand it you accuse it to be wrong it's always been like that, it's not a new phenomenon.

Hyper
April 10th, 2014, 04:43 AM
It's actually an interesting topic... Awhile back having too much time as I usually do I was browsing around and reading conspiracy theories (one of my favorite past times) and I stumbled upon some guy who was claiming the same thing.

Except he had gone a bit further he had analyzed videos for symbols and knowing a bit about symbolism beforehand there were a lot of symbols in most really big pop artist videos that are occultic & associated with satanism.

Man I love conspiracy theories! I haven't given it much thought or bothered to do more research because in the world of symbols the ''true'' meaning of a symbol and what is generally thought to be the meaning of a symbol can differ greatly.

xxdrakeTxx
April 11th, 2014, 03:41 PM
yeah some music can be thought of as satanic or occult themed but there isnt that many bands /singers that potray real satanism eather laveyen or theistic . but i think black metal is the only genre that songs of occultism and satanism is not only normal but kind of an expectation by the way i am a theistic satanist that studys occultism

Babiole
May 3rd, 2014, 03:46 PM
It seems like everything promotes Satanism these days according to the religious right...

Menzis
May 3rd, 2014, 03:59 PM
Im talking about mainstream music... Such as Lady Gaga or Kesha.

Yes search up on youtube illuminati pop stars it explains it all.

Melodic
May 3rd, 2014, 05:38 PM
Satanism, no.
Do they talk about religion in every modern song, no.
Should people judge them if they chose to record something not in others beliefs, no.

Babs
May 3rd, 2014, 10:22 PM
ha! in what way do these people promote satanism? specifics, please.

Jack russell dad
May 4th, 2014, 04:50 PM
couldn't really answer. MOST music i listen to is pre 2000's. The new music isnt so much satanism, its just all about sex, doing drugs, and drinking. that is the only thing that could really throw it in to satanism. and those are everywhere, so no, not satanic

Tendencies
May 6th, 2014, 12:55 AM
People are saying that rap music is controlled by the so-called, "Illuminati", and that they have these rappers incorporate certain signs of satanic things and other bad things inside of their music, whether it be through the lyrics or other things. In my opinion though, I don't think that the Illuminati is even real, and that is just some big hoax. If there are signs of satanism in a song, the artist probably intended for there to be signs of it for a reason.

RavleIncarnate
May 8th, 2014, 03:27 PM
first off unless you are listening to black metal heavy metal screamo or deathcore than satanism isnt in your style of music now if you listen to mainstream pop music than katty perry or someone like that than they may use some symbols asociated with satanism such as the egyptian eye and so on and so fourth but as for promoting it i dont think so im a spirtual satanist who also follows anton lavey teachings of the more widely known laveyan satanism . as for them expressing anti christian values than yes that is correct

Why do you say that the Eye of Horus is inherently Satanic? It is an Egyptian sigil, meant to represent an eye that sees through all falsehood and can see all. How in the nine (actually Satanic) rings of hell is that Satanic?

Typhlosion
May 14th, 2014, 05:00 PM
Why do you say that the Eye of Horus is inherently Satanic? 'Cuz it ain't a cross :P
'Nuff said.

RavleIncarnate
May 15th, 2014, 12:04 AM
'Cuz it ain't a cross :P
'Nuff said.

But it doesn't represent evil...

And since a white dove is not a cross, it's inherently evil then, isn't it?

Gamma Male
May 15th, 2014, 12:31 AM
Yah, and those comic books and that evil new Elvis character wid his hips and such, and dem feminist gays! THU FLU VACINNE GAV MY SUN AUTISMN! YEAH, THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! ALEX JONES IS AWESOME!





No, pop music isn't satanic.

thatgothgirluknow
May 15th, 2014, 12:38 AM
truthfully most times not though sometimes yes but its just another relighan they arent evil people like tv and most people say

Typhlosion
May 15th, 2014, 08:35 AM
But it doesn't represent evil...

And since a white dove is not a cross, it's inherently evil then, isn't it?I meant that anything beyond western culture, christian values and/or symbols is automatically satanic.

RavleIncarnate
May 15th, 2014, 12:19 PM
Meh.