Is it sinful to masterbate?

[Stanley]

I know that technically it is... but... everyone does it so is it ok to just ask for forgiveness? (which is what I already do)

[Pultost]

No. Some people say it is, but they're full of it. Masturbation is healthy and normal, as long as it doesn't conflict with your school work and social life. You guys even decrease the chances of getting prostate cancer if you jerk off regularly, so there's that.

[ska8er]

Masturbating and asking for forgiveness is really
not repenting if u r doing it over and over. Doing
it perhaps in some cases may not b a sin but I
think that lusting over something or someone
while masturbating I guess would b the reason
in religion it is considered sinful but people
walking around with built up sexual tension
and not releasing it is far more sinful which
might lead to people committing worse evils.
Don't worry about it. Anyone not agreeing
with me-IDK. I don't think it is a sin.

[Stanley]

Masturbating and asking for forgiveness is really
not repenting if u r doing it over and over. Doing
it perhaps in some cases may not b a sin but I
think that lusting over something or someone
while masturbating I guess would b the reason
in religion it is considered sinful but people
walking around with built up sexual tension
and not releasing it is far more sinful which
might lead to people committing worse evils.
Don't worry about it. Anyone not agreeing
with me-IDK. I don't think it is a sin.

yeah that's kinda what I thought... but I feel really guilty about doing it whenever I do and feel like im not a proper christian

[ska8er]

yeah that's kinda what I thought... but I feel really guilty about doing it whenever I do and feel like im not a proper christian

I think many of us have this guilt or down feeling
after we masturbate religious belief or not. This
feeling is probably due to the release of hormones.
As I said before Don't worry bout it.:)

[Zika]

According to the Bible, masturbation is only a sin for men, not women.

Just like homosexuality is an abomination only for men, not women.

[Caycedilla]

According to the Bible, masturbation is only a sin for men, not women.


Looks like I’m going to heaven :yes: pure and sinless

[Zika]

Looks like I’m going to heaven :yes: pure and sinless

Ah, but according to the New Testament, you have to worry about fornication.

1Corinthians 7:8-9 urges, “Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”

So get with it, and stop sinning. Marry that bf of yours and end your lust for Shaythen :P

(btw, I don't go around quoting the bible. I had to look up that Corinthinans quotation).

[Caycedilla]

Ah, but according to the New Testament, you have to worry about fornication.

1Corinthians 7:8-9 urges, “Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”

So get with it, and stop sinning. Marry that bf of yours and end your lust for Shaythen :P

(btw, I don't go around quoting the bible. I had to look up that Corinthinans quotation).

I can’t sleep

I’m laughing too hard

[Zika]

I can’t sleep

I’m laughing too hard

Glad to have done that to you:).

But now it's my bedtime and I'm very tired and barely have the energy to sin tonight.

I think many of us have this guilt or down feeling
after we masturbate religious belief or not. This
feeling is probably due to the release of hormones.
As I said before Don't worry bout it.:)

I 'release hormones' and trust me, I don't feel the least bit guilty :yeah:.

double posts merged -Atlantis

[ska8er]

Glad to have done that to you:).

But now it's my bedtime and I'm very tired and barely have the energy to sin tonight.



I 'release hormones' and trust me, I don't feel the least bit guilty :yeah:.

double posts merged -Atlantis


I don't feel guilty either. Maybe we can shake on that. ;)

[Zika]

I don't feel guilty either. Maybe we can shake on that. ;)

haha I could imagine you and I have two different ideas on what that means, but that's a topic for a different forum. But yeah, let's shake on it :P.

[Stanley]

haha I could imagine you and I have two different ideas on what that means, but that's a topic for a different forum. But yeah, let's shake on it :P.

haha

[BlackParadePixie]

technically it is? according to who? which god(s) say so?

[jasondrums]

Well if there's a God it looks like I'll be whackin it in a lake of fire.

[ska8er]

haha I could imagine you and I have two different ideas on what that means, but that's a topic for a different forum. But yeah, let's shake on it :P.

The feeling is mutual. ;)

[ska8er]

Well if there's a God it looks like I'll be whackin it in a lake of fire.

U will put out the flames.

[Oscar-V3.0]

I know that technically it is... but... everyone does it so is it ok to just ask for forgiveness? (which is what I already do)

For me if you dont cause harm to anyone, it is not a sin

[Emilyfox]

I know that technically it is... but... everyone does it so is it ok to just ask for forgiveness? (which is what I already do)

No not even technically
It’s not a sin
Lust is a sin, but relieving yourself with sexual thoughts and stuff isn’t a sin
It’s natural

[Stanley]

No not even technically
It’s not a sin
Lust is a sin, but relieving yourself with sexual thoughts and stuff isn’t a sin
It’s natural

but if you're lusting after people while masterbating

[Emilyfox]

but if you're lusting after people while masterbating

Then lust is the sin not the fapping

Not all sexual thoughts are lust

[Stanley]

Then lust is the sin not the fapping

Not all sexual thoughts are lust

are they not?

[lliam]

Because God made man as it is, lusting and fapping is a sacred duty due to Gods will. You've to differ between church rules and Gods true will. And its true will simply is, what's natural to survive and procreation, even if you never procreate.

Amen.

[Zika]

No not even technically
It’s not a sin
Lust is a sin, but relieving yourself with sexual thoughts and stuff isn’t a sin
It’s natural

As I've said before, I'm not at all religiously educated, but I believe that's inaccurate for men. "Wasting the seed (masturbating)" is a sin. Unless you're talking about masturbating and stopping before ejaculating, which for a guy is masochistic.

Because God made man as it is, lusting and fapping is a sacred duty due to Gods will. You've to differ between church rules and Gods true will. And its true will simply is, what's natural to survive and procreation, even if you never procreate.
Amen.

I'm not sure it's possible to separate church rules from the Lord's true will. It's the church which interprets that will.

I agree, His will is for people to procreate and that's exactly why masturbation, and homosexuality for that matter, are sins: they provide ways for people to satisfy their natural urges without procreating.

[Emilyfox]

As I've said before, I'm not at all religiously educated, but I believe that's inaccurate for men. "Wasting the seed (masturbating)" is a sin. Unless you're talking about masturbating and stopping before ejaculating, which for a guy is masochistic.



I'm not sure it's possible to separate church rules from the Lord's true will. It's the church which interprets that will.

I agree, His will is for people to procreate and that's exactly why masturbation, and homosexuality for that matter, are sins: they provide ways for people to satisfy their natural urges without procreating.

Not so, that’s not what it means in the Bible about wasting seed
The sin wasn’t that spilling seed/ cumming outside of a mans wife - it was specific to Onan who was instructed to have a child with his widowed sister in law - he instead banged her and pulled out and was killed for it, every other guy who pulls out or orgasms outside of the right vagina doesn’t get slain by God.

So it’s not against God or the Biblical law to masturbate or pull out, it’s a sin to disobey / offend God if specifically told to do something

[HeyCameron]

Well the sin of Onan seems to be coitus interruptus (as well as his disobedience), so trying to extrapolate a ban on masturbation from that story is a stretch in itself, but the Bible doesn't have strictly laid-out rules on every sexual transgression as some wish it did. If one interprets the story of Onan as prohibiting any ejaculation outside the purpose of procreation within a marriage, then yeah, I guess it is sinful and so is every sex act apart from a married couple trying to have a child.

[lliam]

I'm not sure it's possible to separate church rules from the Lord's true will. It's the church which interprets that will.

Naw. According to your statement it's simply you who strictly lets the church decides to whats right or wrong.

And imo thats a huge downgrade to true faith.

Believers have to face God or what they believe in individually. Whoever doesn't do this and follows dogmas instead isn't a true believer, just a lemming.

You can't rely your faith on expierences and therefore resulting interpretations of others. You won't have a life or even developing to your trueself.

But you have to share your personal spiritual expierences with others and come to a consensual sense in context of to get along with each other in a community.

And such compromises aren't Gods will anymore. They are cumulated in a general social management ... in case of religion the earthly management is the church.

All the rites and rules are manmade for a accordingly common social life. God instead is just there, where you face it on a personal level.

So it's your duty to differ between earth bound social reality and your faith.

Because faith is always a personal thing which becomes common ground when believers share it. At that state, it's common will, therefore just manmade.

[AustinAw3some]

I only feel like some of the things that are said in the bible we really shouldn't listen too. There are a lot of weird things in there that make no sense today. And if it is true I can basically guarentee 90% of people are going to hell.

[SouthernDude]

No, it is not sinful, and the proof is in the Bible. In the book of Leviticus, it lays out the do's and don'ts for every single sexual act thinkable, more or less. But, there is one act that is never mentioned in the Bible, and that is masturbation. And why would God consider masturbation a sin and not tell us about it?

Case closed

[knives]

It’s not
We are designed for it

[MatveiBehnke]

I know that technically it is... but... everyone does it so is it ok to just ask for forgiveness? (which is what I already do)

In my opinion, not really, even though I am Mormon because my Mexican family is, I tend to view it as being normal as you don't want to hold in releasing your sperm as it increases the chance of random ejaculations for me, the church encourages you not to but my parents, Dad, says you don't have to do what the Mormons say you have to do or be perfect. ;)

[CarrieOC]

Lets hope not. Im not declaring that in confessional

[Oscar-V3.0]

"Wasting the seed (masturbating)" is a sin. Unless you're talking about masturbating and stopping before ejaculating, which for a guy is masochistic.

How about wet dreams ? Are they a sin ? :lol:

[jss888]

If it is a sin I'm going to hell thousands of times over.

[Pultost]

If it is a sin I'm going to hell thousands of times over.

Hell is gonna be plenty crowded. xD

[Jacobaa]

I don't think so. Ive never been told so at church specifically. They talk about lustful thoughts and adultery so maybe it ties in but idk

[Natacha]

If there ever was a god and he/she was against masturbation, he/she would have made our arms shorter

[teen110]

honestly it depends on the person. Some peple find it a sin, where it shouldnt be because it is apart of growing up, but everyone makes their own choices. I say its a way for someone to learn their own sexual desires.

[hayley2003]

I went to a summer church camp when I was 11-12, and saying the word was forbidden. Lots of things they taught were kinda absurd, and we even thought so at the time. They says "You never want to touch yourself 'down there' because it is a sin". They really seemed obsessed with anything related to sex.

[Ala5ka]

I don’t think it is, there is nothing biblical against it except with lust... so so long as what you’re doing isn’t lustful?

[teen110]

some people think it is, and some religions think it is, but others dont beleive it is. Its normal and healthy.

[Stamford]

If masturbation is a sin, then just about everyone is a sinner. So no, I don't believe it is a sin.

[MatveiBehnke]

(Duplicated post, deleted)

[Xxx_Lilly_xxX]

No. Some people say it is, but they're full of it. Masturbation is healthy and normal, as long as it doesn't conflict with your school work and social life. You guys even decrease the chances of getting prostate cancer if you jerk off regularly, so there's that.

i agree with you :)

[Pultost]

i agree with you :)

Thanks. :)

[Xxx_Lilly_xxX]

Thanks. :)

Your Welocme ;) . Just i dont believe that something that pleasure you and its good for your body is a sin ....i believe a sin is when you bother someone eles life with that .. like kill someone or steal from someone or lie so somone ese get punished an much more ..... ihope you understand where i going with that :p

[Pultost]

Your Welocme ;) . Just i dont believe that something that pleasure you and its good for your body is a sin ....i believe a sin is when you bother someone eles life with that .. like kill someone or steal from someone or lie so somone ese get punished an much more ..... ihope you understand where i going with that :p

I understand what you mean. Those are true sins, and of course also forcing someone to do sexual things against their will, taking advance of someone who's either asleep or too drunk to have any say in the matter. But some self-loving behind closed doors is most definitely not. :)

[Xxx_Lilly_xxX]

I understand what you mean. Those are true sins, and of course also forcing someone to do sexual things against their will, taking advance of someone who's either asleep or too drunk to have any say in the matter. But some self-loving behind closed doors is most definitely not. :)

Yeah exactly :)

[Berlin]

I’m pretty sure even in the Bible there are good prostitutes. Supposedly god see them as good people. Don’t give yourself a hard time. Just enjoy yourself. Why should it be sinful if there’s absolutely nothing bad about it?

[Just JT]

Nothing that good can be that bad

[BJade]

No not a sin in my mind

Arent most of these kinda rules of sex and sexuality stuff created like 100s of years ago. So back then life was kinda different. Lot shorter life expectancy so be more encouragement to have kids earlier in life, so making self pleasure and same sex relationships sins, would increase the likelihood of wanting to feel pleasure, with someone and possibly resulting in kids

And if god didn't want males to waste there seed why make them produce so many lol and why let females naturally waste theres with periods

[logan2002]

If you believe in god, why would he make you in his image, give you something that makes you feel good, and say not to use it

[Thomas52]

Catechism says :

y masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."139

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

If masturbation is a sin, then just about everyone is a sinner. So no, I don't believe it is a sin.

you know somone who is not a sinner ? :D
in any way, i dont mean only masturbation :)
everyone is a sinner ....

Posts merged. Use the multi quote button next time. ~Mars

[Oitamara]

I don’t think it’s a sin. Why is it wrong when you have fun and not hurt anyone? It’s bad for no one.

[Pultost]

I don’t think it’s a sin. Why is it wrong when you have fun and not hurt anyone? It’s bad for no one.

Exactly, as long as it's done in private there's no harm done.

[Phoebe_]

I don’t think it is
If it was a rule not to do it where you lived and you were doing it against the rules then maybe
If you’re thinking of sinful things while doing it maybe?

But even monkeys do it, it’s natural

[cleverme]

im not any religion but I don't see how it would be a sin, and just because I'm not any religion doesn't mean I don't believe in the higher power of god, bc I do believe in god.

[JamesFocus]

God gave the ability and knows it is pleasurable. Why would he make that way if he didn’t want you to do it? It’s just a way to control people that man came up with.

[CarlaG]

If it is a lot of people are going to hell! XD

[pauly]

I'm going to start with the terrible cliche of saying: "It depends who you ask."

If you ask most teenagers the answer will be no, it's not sinful; it's natural as well as enjoyable.

If you ask very strict, orthodox or extreme people of many religions they will find a section of scripture which forbids it.

If you ask the older generations, especially couples who have been together for a good while, it would probably be 50/50, even though most of them will have masturbated as teens.

Where do I stand on the question? Am I allowed to say that I tend towards believing one thing but doing the other? ;)

[JustAnAveragePerson]

I guess in the bible it is. Also note that times are different then. In the times where the bible was written men also ra*ed women without consequence. I wouldn't take it personally. Do what makes you feel good.

[Riley2015]

If you believe in god, why would he make you in his image, give you something that makes you feel good, and say not to use it

It's because he gives us temptations to test us to see if we will be strong enough to resist them or not. Like alcohol and drugs make you feel good but they are certainly sins. More often than not we aren't strong enough because we are human and humans will always sin. That's why we are offered a chance to repent afterwards and seek God's forgiveness.

However, having said all that, i don't think masturbation is a sin if its done in a healthy way. Masturbating too much might be but then all males are guilty for that :lol:

[Calli]

It’s not
Abuse of it or lust maybe
But it’s natural
Most of those things labeled as sin are just judgements by the translator / publisher at the time

[Maxfun]

I'm not religious so it doesn't bother me

[CostaBelle]

I guess if you follow religion properly it is along with other stuff, like sex before marriage and having lustful thoughts, though just because you do these things doesn’t make you a bad person or that you can’t follow your religion

[BiYasmin]

Yes it is sinful and haram.

I am going to hell.

[BeanieM]

I believe it is not, but I'm pretty sure there are many people who think otherwise.

[Maarten-Victorian]

I guess in the bible it is. Also note that times are different then. In the times where the bible was written men also ra*ed women without consequence. I wouldn't take it personally. Do what makes you feel good.

Does the bible actually talk about it ?

[JustAnAveragePerson]

"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh."

"But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death."

Yep they do

[Sevven]

It’s not
It’s natural

[pauly]

There's no simple answer, just as there's no easy definition of a "sin."

I would suspect that many on VT have come to think that it must be a sin because they don't want to be, or have been, caught by a parent while masturbating.

A parent is likely to have a reflex action of shock at finding what they thought their innocent offspring are doing. But many such parents have accidentally or conveniently forgotten what they did when they were in their teens.

My personal belief is that masturbating isn't a sin, except for those whose religion - either via their parents or directly - instructs them that it is. Masturbation is not mentioned as such in the Christian or Jewish books of the Bible. But the word "abomination" isn't well defined and many zealous believers will take masturbation as an example of an abomination, and therefore sinful.

So in summary, masturbation is what you yourself accept as being right or wrong for you.

[BJade]

"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh."

"But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death."

Yep they do

Isnt that just desire in general. Everything from looking at someone and thinking they look sexy, masturbating, having sex.... The basic point is everything is a sin if it has desire (in this case sexual) and you should only have sex to reproduce and hate the experience. Now I don't think anyone has ever not thought something looked good or wanted something in some context of desire

[Sevven]

Who decides what’s sinful and for who?

[katiecat]

Don’t see how, it’s just you

[Jill2]

xxxxx

[Max the Disenchanter]

According to the Old Testament it is.

[HighVamp913]

If it is hell is going to be packedXD I gotta make my reservation to get a good spot:P

[Pultost]

If it is hell is going to be packedXD I gotta make my reservation to get a good spot:P

If you bring the meat I'll bring the beer. :D

[HighVamp913]

If you bring the meat I'll bring the beer. :D
Ight bet. :metal:

[EmilyCan]

No its not at all. Self exploration helps you learn your body and your likes. What feels good and what doesn't.
I think its smart to know these things before you let someone else play with it

[DarkDragon]

yes and no. Some religions explicitly mention that masturbation is not allowed and some still have debates that say it is and it isn't. i recall some people stating people interpreted it that way but its truly not a sin.

All i can say is that masturbation doesnt cause harm, it feels good and can be healthy to do. It's only when you masturbate to much or get an addiction where it becomes a bad thing. You should make the choice yourself as it depends on how strict you are to your religion.

[Pultost]

All i can say is that masturbation doesnt cause harm, it feels good and can be healthy to do. It's only when you masturbate to much or get an addiction where it becomes a bad thing. You should make the choice yourself as it depends on how strict you are to your religion.

Exactly. It's when your social life and grades go downhill because you prioritize masturbation above anything it becomes a problem. xD

[Alpha-1]

Even if it is, I'm sure your priest, rabbi, or other religious leader is doing it too. They're all hypocrites.

[tami666]

No it’s not sinful. Religion is just old fashioned and useless nowadays. Scientists tells u masturbation is fine and healthy. I choose science that’s real and can be prove, not religion and god that nobody can prove it exist.

[ZZZoe]

How is it sinful? I don't think it is.

[Pultost]

How is it sinful? I don't think it is.

My guess is that some nutcase read the part about Onan pulling out, then managed to twist it to be about masturbation, and the rest is history.

[littlemanjack]

I don’t think it’s mentioned in most religions and can be open to interpretation. But with the amount of tissues I’ve used to wank maybe I’m going to hell. Trees are destroyed to make tissues which kind of goes against the whole caring for the world and don't damage creation…

[Eivor]

Of course it isn’t
It’s natural and hurts no one

[Bluegrass]

God totally understands.

[Anna Kadlecova]

God totally understands.

God doesnt exist ;)

[Uniquemind]

*wonders if the world of microbiology of bacteria and viruses use the wasted human DNA from haploid cells* to create new viruses when such stuff enters the sewage system.

[HeyCameron]

*wonders if the world of microbiology of bacteria and viruses use the wasted human DNA from haploid cells* to create new viruses when such stuff enters the sewage system.

The horny boys of VT caused COVID :lol:

[Pultost]

The horny boys of VT caused COVID :lol:

I should've known! :lol3:

[ska8er]

Probably if u did it in church.

[Pultost]

Probably if u did it in church.

It would definitely be unpopular, and you'd most likely be asked to leave. Just a hunch. :P

[Katie06]

It would definitely be unpopular, and you'd most likely be asked to leave. Just a hunch. :P


Yes that’s one kind of donation they don’t want :P

[Pultost]

Yes that’s one kind of donation they don’t want :P

Yeah, that's what a certain clinic is for. :P

[Riley2015]

The only reason some people think Masturbation is ''sinful'' is that they believe that when a boy/man ejaculates he murders millions of sperm. But this is nonsense for a number of reasons. First off no one ever makes millions of babies when they have sex and the women gets pregnant, usually, it's one baby or sometimes twins or triplets, and even rarer that more babies are made, most of the sperm dies anyway. So if we weren't supposed to waste and kill sperm we'd be having millions of babies all the time. Secondly, you have to let the sperm out sometimes it's not healthy to keep it all inside. Masturbation is harmless, hurts no one and helps let off steam.

[Eivor]

I suppose a lot of the religious reasons are related to list and control of the young / unmarried

[Falcons_11]

I think even the Catholic church declared that masturbation isn't a serious (mortal) sin.

[Maxsmith]

I'm an atheist, so it doesn't bother me