StR 8 would U or have U....

[jaret]

If Ur StR would U or have you done any of these w/ another Boi ?
-kissed/madeout w/
-J/O gave or received
-Oral gave or received

[ska8er]

When I considered myself Str8 but
curious I did all of the options you
mentioned. Now I accepted myself
as Bi and tho far and in between at
the present I would still do all if the
situation was right. Yes I would like
to hear the opinions from the Str8
Dudes on ur question.

[Adamant]

I have never done any of these things with a girl or a boy.:(:whoops:
I consider myself mostly straight and more that than anything else. I dont consider myself 100% straight as i have sometimes imagined what it would be like doing some stuff with a boy.
I am not sure how many straight boys will say they have considered these things though.
I will answer honestly for me.
Kissing/ making out. NO. Definitely not.
If someone i trusted offered to give me a nice time without any payback needed i am selfish and kind of wanting not to feel totally undesirable/ inexperienced enough to know i would say yes to a hand job. Honestly not sure about getting oral.
Might consider giving a handjob in return but wouldnt give one because i wanted too. Pretty sure I couldn't give oral whatever i was offered in return.
Anal of any sort. No definitely not.
Not putting anyone down who enjoys stuff i don't but there are some things that seem gross to me.
Also not totally sure that anyone who says they do some of this for experimenting only isn't a bit less than 100% straight but thats just my opinion.

[gromit]

Sexuality is fluid, straight or gay is irrelevant. I am attracted to all kinds of people for many different reasons. if I have sex with a girl, that doesn't mean I am straight. The action does not define who or what I am. If I am attracted to a guy & do intimate sexual things with him, It doesn't mean I am gay or even bi. It might just mean I am horny. I might kiss a guy but that doesn't mean I am in love with him. Sharing orgasms with others is always better than just doing it alone. It's the same with other experiences. I like going to the movies but it's so much better going with a friend.

[ska8er]

Sexuality is fluid, straight or gay is irrelevant. I am attracted to all kinds of people for many different reasons. if I have sex with a girl, that doesn't mean I am straight. The action does not define who or what I am. If I am attracted to a guy & do intimate sexual things with him, It doesn't mean I am gay or even bi. It might just mean I am horny. I might kiss a guy but that doesn't mean I am in love with him. Sharing orgasms with others is always better than just doing it alone. It's the same with other experiences. I like going to the movies but it's so much better going with a friend.

I like ur reasoning. I agree with u very much. :)
U would make a good partner.:cool:

[gromit]

Thank you!

It's always gratifying to know others appreciate & agree with your opinions.

It's important to show gratitude, it advances conversations & connections.

[HFrint]

If Ur StR would U or have you done any of these w/ another Boi ?
-kissed/madeout w/
-J/O gave or received
-Oral gave or received

I’m straight now... I have done all of those during my gay/curious time

[gromit]

I’m straight now... I have done all of those during my gay/curious time

What straightened you out?

[Jericho14]

I'm still open to doing all these things even when I considered myself straight/curious back then

[jaret]

I’m straight now... I have done all of those during my gay/curious time

When, why did you go STR8 ?

[jamie_n5]

Sexuality is fluid, straight or gay is irrelevant. I am attracted to all kinds of people for many different reasons. if I have sex with a girl, that doesn't mean I am straight. The action does not define who or what I am. If I am attracted to a guy & do intimate sexual things with him, It doesn't mean I am gay or even bi. It might just mean I am horny. I might kiss a guy but that doesn't mean I am in love with him. Sharing orgasms with others is always better than just doing it alone. It's the same with other experiences. I like going to the movies but it's so much better going with a friend.


Nice post! I am totally gay but did have sex with one girl. I liked it but not nearly as much as when I have sex with my BF.
I do agree with you very much and you put eloquently too.

[gromit]

Nice post! I am totally gay but did have sex with one girl. I liked it but not nearly as much as when I have sex with my BF.
I do agree with you very much and you put eloquently too.

Thanks, mate, I spent a lot of time agonising over it & concluded that other people opinions shouldn't stop you doing what you want. I had some enlightening conversations with my dad & his best friend that helped me to realis that sexuality is as diverse as humans are.

[HFrint]

What straightened you out?

Made it with a girl.

[gromit]

Made it with a girl.

Ohh, Okay. But there is no reason to declare yourself one way or another. Having sex with a guy doesn't really make you gay & having sex with a girl doesn't really make you straight either.

I was introduced to a guy at a party, he shook my hand & declared he was straight, I asked him when he came out? He looked at me puzzled but everyone laughed. When he got it, he blushed.

[wrecked]

Society would most likely label me "BI"

I consider myself to be "straight" based on the fact that I have zero interest in having a same sex emotional relationship.

-kissed/madeout w/NO
-J/O gave or receivedYes I have had other guys "play" with me and I've done the same to them.
-Oral gave or receivedI have given and received for years

[scentlessapprentice]

I have done all of those things and I'm pretty straight

[AustinAw3some]

The way I look at it is even though I consider myself straight I'm willing to try everything at least once to sew if I like it.

[SouthernDude]

I'm mostly straight and have not done any of these with either guys or girls

[Spooky_Eli]

Doesn't this border on storytelling?

[Zika]

Ohh, Okay. But there is no reason to declare yourself one way or another.

But there's no reason for him not to declare himself one way or the other. If someone identifies as bi or gay, there's nothing wrong with them saying that.

Being introspective and realizing you belong to a certain group is very different than being forced to identify with a group (any group) to which you feel you don't fit well. You do so when you declare you're sexually fluid. Not everyone is, so you're identifying with that specific group.

[gromit]

But there's no reason for him not to declare himself one way or the other. If someone identifies as bi or gay, there's nothing wrong with them saying that.

Being introspective and realizing you belong to a certain group is very different than being forced to identify with a group (any group) to which you feel you don't fit well. You do so when you declare you're sexually fluid. Not everyone is, so you're identifying with that specific group.


Pretty offensive to declare your sexuality to someone you just met. Smacks of making assumptions.

The guy assumed I was attracted to him, why else would he do that?

[Zxywvuts]

If Ur StR would U or have you done any of these w/ another Boi ?
-kissed/madeout w/
-J/O gave or received
-Oral gave or received

Ok so I haven't done any of these, but - I might consider J/O. Not sure if I'd be comfortable or interested in the others... but haven't had the situation!

[Falcons_11]

Made it with a girl.

That's a good enough reason to be straight!

[Josh2005]

I have made out and jerked eachother off with a boy, never tried oral yet but the friend I do stuff with wants to try it when we can start meeting again properly.

[bpk1234]

I have done all with guys. Never have done anything sexual with a girl in my life.

[Zika]

Pretty offensive to declare your sexuality to someone you just met. Smacks of making assumptions.

The guy assumed I was attracted to him, why else would he do that?

You seem to be confused. Reread posts 7, 8, 13 and 14.
I quoted only the part where you responded to HFrint.

Clearly the guy you were introduced to at the party thought you were gay and his comment was totally out of line. But that has nothing to do with HFrint declaring himself straight in the context of this thread. That's perfectly fine.

[gromit]

You seem to be confused. Reread posts 7, 8, 13 and 14.
I quoted only the part where you responded to HFrint.

Clearly the guy you were introduced to at the party thought you were gay and his comment was totally out of line. But that has nothing to do with HFrint declaring himself straight in the context of this thread. That's perfectly fine.

Anyone can declare anything they like. My point is that one's sexuality is only one aspect of their lives & it is unnecessary to feel you need to explain yourself to anyone.

[Zika]

Anyone can declare anything they like. My point is that one's sexuality is only one aspect of their lives & it is unnecessary to feel you need to explain yourself to anyone.

I agree with your entirely. HFrint was just being polite in answering your question (posts 12 and 13). He didn't need to explain himself to you at all.

It is interesting that the only one you asked about was the one who said he was straight, not any of those who said they are gay or bi.

[gromit]

I agree with your entirely. HFrint was just being polite in answering your question (posts 12 and 13). He didn't need to explain himself to you at all.

It is interesting that the only one you asked about was the one who said he was straight, not any of those who said they are gay or bi.

Not really the point, is it?

The post is about self-identifying straight guys having boy on boy sex.

My point is about putting yourself into categories or assigning labels to what is human nature is unnecessary & illogical.

We might as well discuss preferences for Macdonalds over Burger king.

You can argue all you like but it's an illogical exercise. Get some perspective, being narrow-minded just makes it a circular argument.

[Will..]

Not really the point, is it?

The post is about self-identifying straight guys having boy on boy sex.

My point is about putting yourself into categories or assigning labels to what is human nature is unnecessary & illogical.

We might as well discuss preferences for Macdonalds over Burger king.

You can argue all you like but it's an illogical exercise. Get some perspective, being narrow-minded just makes it a circular argument.

You're right, being open-minded is definitely a useful skill to have, not just on VT but in the world.

[Jedidom99]

Just straight :)

[Zika]

Not really the point, is it?

The post is about self-identifying straight guys having boy on boy sex.

My point is about putting yourself into categories or assigning labels to what is human nature is unnecessary & illogical.

We might as well discuss preferences for Macdonalds over Burger king.

You can argue all you like but it's an illogical exercise. Get some perspective, being narrow-minded just makes it a circular argument.

You are mighty sensitive, aren't you?

Putting yourself into categories regarding what is human nature may be unnecessary, but it is not illogical. It's unfortunate you can't see that. I don't think that's a function of your narrow-mindedness (though that shows through as well); it seems to be a limitation of your reasoning ability.

My perspective is just fine. I'm very open minded, even to those who disagree with me, something you seem to lack.

You also seem to lack tact. You turned a civil discussion into name-calling. Quite immature for a 24 year old.

[gromit]

You are mighty sensitive, aren't you?

Putting yourself into categories regarding what is human nature may be unnecessary, but it is not illogical. It's unfortunate you can't see that. I don't think that's a function of your narrow-mindedness (though that shows through as well); it seems to be a limitation of your reasoning ability.

My perspective is just fine. I'm very open minded, even to those who disagree with me, something you seem to lack.

You also seem to lack tact. You turned a civil discussion into name-calling. Quite immature for a 24-year-old.

I'm not sensitive, I'm a realist. Also, I practice logical & critical thinking & I suspect you are projecting.

Projecting is when you accuse someone else of all the things you yourself are critical about yourself. All your comments are argumentative & self serving & overly critical.

You're about as see-through as a condom. I have rarely seen such a clear example of 'MIRRORING'. Google 'Mirroring' & there will be a pic of you.

Some of your tactless examples are........

"You also seem to lack tact. You turned a civil discussion into name-calling. Quite immature for a 24-year-old."

"I don't think that's a function of your narrow-mindedness (though that shows through as well); it seems to be a limitation of your reasoning ability."

"My perspective is just fine. I'm very open minded, even to those who disagree with me, something you seem to lack."

Where you are concerned, there is no civility. You lack any self awareness.


I rest my case!

[Petyr]

You are mighty sensitive, aren't you?

Putting yourself into categories regarding what is human nature may be unnecessary, but it is not illogical. It's unfortunate you can't see that. I don't think that's a function of your narrow-mindedness (though that shows through as well); it seems to be a limitation of your reasoning ability.

My perspective is just fine. I'm very open minded, even to those who disagree with me, something you seem to lack.

You also seem to lack tact. You turned a civil discussion into name-calling. Quite immature for a 24 year old.

You are fighting the good fight. I think the points you’ve made so far are strong as he continues to try to put you down.

[Zika]

I'm not sensitive, I'm a realist. Also, I practice logical & critical thinking & I suspect you are projecting.

Projecting is when you accuse someone else of all the things you yourself are critical about yourself. All your comments are argumentative & self serving & overly critical.

You're about as see-through as a condom. I have rarely seen such a clear example of 'MIRRORING'. Google 'Mirroring' & there will be a pic of you.

Some of your tactless examples are........

"You also seem to lack tact. You turned a civil discussion into name-calling. Quite immature for a 24-year-old."

"I don't think that's a function of your narrow-mindedness (though that shows through as well); it seems to be a limitation of your reasoning ability."

"My perspective is just fine. I'm very open minded, even to those who disagree with me, something you seem to lack."

Where you are concerned, there is no civility. You lack any self awareness.


I rest my case!

Clearly, you need more practice in logic and critical thinking. You seem to think too much of yourself.

If I thought your comments were of any value, I'd respond.
But I have to wash my hair lol.

[gromit]

Clearly, you need more practice in logic and critical thinking. You seem to think too much of yourself.

If I thought your comments were of any value, I'd respond.
But I have to wash my hair lol.



Make sure you're looking in the mirror while you wash your hair & contemplate being a B cluster personality disorder. Catty queen much?

Good day

[gromit]

You are fighting the good fight. I think the points you’ve made so far are strong as he continues to try to put you down.

Thanks, some guys are just bullies, it's a self-esteem issue.

[kro814]

We have played strip poker. Do we get any credit for that?

[Zika]

Thanks, some guys are just bullies, it's a self-esteem issue.

ummmm, I believe he was supporting me. Note which post he quoted.
I've done nothing which a rational person would consider bullying, but that seems to be the hot button accusation for those who have nothing of value to say.

Make sure you're looking in the mirror while you wash your hair & contemplate being a B cluster personality disorder. Catty queen much?

Good day

And based on your vast knowledge, what leads you to believe I'm a borderline? lol. This coming from the guy who's 24, shows up for a few days every couple years and posts almost exclusively about sex. And spends a lot of time pm'ng others....for what purpose? Well, I can guess.

[Petyr]

ummmm, I believe he was supporting me. Note which post he quoted.
I've done nothing which a rational person would consider bullying, but that seems to be the hot button accusation for those who have nothing of value to say.



And based on your vast knowledge, what leads you to believe I'm a borderline? lol. This coming from the guy who's 24, shows up for a few days every couple years and posts almost exclusively about sex. And spends a lot of time pm'ng others....for what purpose? Well, I can guess.

I was indeed supporting you. Anyhoooo.... looks like we won’t have to be harassed by him anymore...

[Zika]

I was indeed supporting you. Anyhoooo.... looks like we won’t have to be harassed by him anymore...

We won't indeed.
And thank you :).

[ska8er]

It seems gromit was a bad boy. Good
conversations but u got to watch those
Tasmanian Devils.

[Zika]

It seems gromit was a bad boy. Good
conversations but u got to watch those
Tasmanian Devils.

lol

Careful, the powers to be don't want us talking about banned members.
And we don't know why he was banned.
I don't think this was a matter of lying about his age; I think he really was 24.

[Spooky_Eli]

lol

Careful, the powers to be don't want us talking about banned members.
And we don't know why he was banned.
I don't think this was a matter of lying about his age; I think he really was 24.

Banned dudes are like Freddie Krueger..... Oh, wait