Helping my friend?

[Stronk Serb]

So, my friend, let's call him John, gets bullied. Most of the time I am there to stop the guys bullying him, but sometimes I am absent. What can we do to stop them? Telling the teacher/supervisor is not gonna help it. It would make the bullies bully him more. Today's usual bullying went like this:

Bully: *punching John* I will kick your ass motherfucker

Me: Cut it out asshole

Bully: You want me to kick your ass to?

Me: Try, and I will end your soccer (English football) career before it started.

Bully: Oh yeah you dead metalhead cultist?

Me: *climbs on a table and jumps on him, kicking him with my army boot* If it's dead, you can't kill it.

[DiamondsGirl]

Unfortunately bullying is everywhere and you can't always be next to your friend when it happens. Really the best way to solve this is by using the brain instead of the muscles. More often than not, the best long-term solution for bullying is seeking protection from either school counselor, homeroom teacher, parents or even the principal. But if this is not doable, then prepare a hidden video camera and record the whole verbal and physical abuse. Report the bully to the police, or get your parents to do it. You can't get into a fight with the bully forever.. there needs to be a less painful, more permanent solution.

[MechaSniper]

Good job comrade.

[Stronk Serb]

Unfortunately bullying is everywhere and you can't always be next to your friend when it happens. Really the best way to solve this is by using the brain instead of the muscles. More often than not, the best long-term solution for bullying is seeking protection from either school counselor, homeroom teacher, parents or even the principal. But if this is not doable, then prepare a hidden video camera and record the whole verbal and physical abuse. Report the bully to the police, or get your parents to do it. You can't get into a fight with the bully forever.. there needs to be a less painful, more permanent solution.

Unless the bullies break John's legs or do something extreme like that, the police can't do anything because it falls under the jurisdiction of the school which doesn't do anything. I am thinking of taking on them, but it's not worth the possibility of going to the police if we injure them badly. Fights here are pretty rough.

[Plane And Simple]

Good job on stopping them. I can only suggest he tries to stay away and stand up on front of them. Get them scared once they won't come back

[DiamondsGirl]

Unless the bullies break John's legs or do something extreme like that, the police can't do anything because it falls under the jurisdiction of the school which doesn't do anything. I am thinking of taking on them, but it's not worth the possibility of going to the police if we injure them badly. Fights here are pretty rough.

sorry to hear that... in that case I'd listen to PlaneAndSimple. There must be a way to scare them once and for all.. maybe get someone older (like your brother or uncle?) to show the bully where the line is? Better yet, if you know anyone who is a martial arts teacher, get him/her to help you. I applaud you for standing up for John, and I do know this thread is made for John but I'm more concerned about your own safety right now. Like I said, you can't get into a fight forever. What if it's your leg broken not John's? :(

[Stronk Serb]

sorry to hear that... in that case I'd listen to PlaneAndSimple. There must be a way to scare them once and for all.. maybe get someone older (like your brother or uncle?) to show the bully where the line is? Better yet, if you know anyone who is a martial arts teacher, get him/her to help you. I applaud you for standing up for John, and I do know this thread is made for John but I'm more concerned about your own safety right now. Like I said, you can't get into a fight forever. What if it's your leg broken not John's? :(

I am not worrying about my safety, I know how to handle myself in a fight, those assholes bothered me before John but they would rather run then fight me unless they outnumber me eight-to-one and have a good reason to fight me which is never, there are three of them and today the ringleader got kicked badly. It is John I am worried about in a fight. I am thinking about maybe coaching John about fighting. I trained a few martial arts, I know how to defend myself, but John needs to work on his attitude too. He's taking too much crap from people. He won't have me watching over him all the time. Neither of us have ny older family members which can teach them a lesson.

[Dalcourt]

So, my friend, let's call him John, gets bullied. Most of the time I am there to stop the guys bullying him, but sometimes I am absent. What can we do to stop them? Telling the teacher/supervisor is not gonna help it. It would make the bullies bully him more. Today's usual bullying went like this:

Bully: *punching John* I will kick your ass motherfucker

Me: Cut it out asshole

Bully: You want me to kick your ass to?

Me: Try, and I will end your soccer (English football) career before it started.

Bully: Oh yeah you dead metalhead cultist?

Me: *climbs on a table and jumps on him, kicking him with my army boot* If it's dead, you can't kill it.

Bullying always is a problem and I agree with you that teachers mostly won't do anything about it. I guess most teachers around here would be too afraid to do something. Trying to fight them is okay, I used to fight a guy that was bullying a friend of mine, too, but it's never a long-term solution.

I am not worrying about my safety, I know how to handle myself in a fight, those assholes bothered me before John but they would rather run then fight me unless they outnumber me eight-to-one and have a good reason to fight me which is never, there are three of them and today the ringleader got kicked badly. It is John I am worried about in a fight. I am thinking about maybe coaching John about fighting. I trained a few martial arts, I know how to defend myself, but John needs to work on his attitude too. He's taking too much crap from people. He won't have me watching over him all the time. Neither of us have ny older family members which can teach them a lesson.

Even if they won't fight you, you should also worry about your safety. I was accidently shoved down the stairs a couple of weeks ago as I helped a female teacher breaking up a fight between two bullies and their victims. So even if you are a good fighter there's always a risk for your health, too.

Training your friend may be a good idea...but still non-violent solutions would work better in the long run...try to be a bigger group or find a place near a teacher where your friend's save and the bullies don't try to do anything...I don't know where the school's work in your place so I can't give you any really useful advice, sorry.

[EddietheZombie]

Maybe teach John how to fight if he doesn't know how? In this day and age its hard to defend yourself because some sore loser wants to pull a gun or a knife. My advice? Teach him how to fight and get him a spring baton (If they are legal) or some kind of weapon. Just in case. Pepper spray may work, but its more like shooting a bear with a BB gun. It will just make it worse, the spring baton will be a last resort if (and God forbid) they pull a knife.


Note: I don't condone fighting with weapons, but I do advise self defense.

[Stronk Serb]

Maybe teach John how to fight if he doesn't know how? In this day and age its hard to defend yourself because some sore loser wants to pull a gun or a knife. My advice? Teach him how to fight and get him a spring baton (If they are legal) or some kind of weapon. Just in case. Pepper spray may work, but its more like shooting a bear with a BB gun. It will just make it worse, the spring baton will be a last resort if (and God forbid) they pull a knife.


Note: I don't condone fighting with weapons, but I do advise self defense.

Well, minors can't buy any of that, and taking that to school is asking for trouble. I have some brass knuckles, a baseball bat and a wallet chain. It's only hand to hand here, so that's why I want to teach him defence.

[Walter]

Boxing has come in handy before for me. Good luck with everything. Truthfully if this person has to resort to bullying you/your friend and won't stop, you might just need to put him in his place. Fight if you have to. Action speaks louder then words in this case IMHO.

[Hyper]

I'd kick the shit out of them. But depending on the bully that could just escalate it. That type of physical bullying doesn't just go away either someone makes them stop or your friend stands up to them enough that it isn't ''fun'' for them anymore.

[NeuroTiger]

Bullies are everywhere...but that's really courageous from you! What a nice and true friend!

[ksdnfkfr]

I'm basically helpless against bullies, but just the fact that they know my friend and his friends would kick the crap out of them, they leave me alone.

[EddietheZombie]

Well, minors can't buy any of that, and taking that to school is asking for trouble. I have some brass knuckles, a baseball bat and a wallet chain. It's only hand to hand here, so that's why I want to teach him defence.

You can make a kubaton. It's easily made. A stick about 6 inches long and with a dull point one or both ends, like this. Have it on a key chain and it won't be questioned. A Monkeys Fist would work too.

http://www.martialartssupplies.com/wood-kubaton.html

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Monkeyz-Fist-White-Paracord-Lanyard--9165

[Stronk Serb]

You can make a kubaton. It's easily made. A stick about 6 inches long and with a dull point one or both ends, like this. Have it on a key chain and it won't be questioned. A Monkeys Fist would work too.

http://www.martialartssupplies.com/wood-kubaton.html

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Monkeyz-Fist-White-Paracord-Lanyard--9165

I will look at these. Also, Dr. Marten's reinforced boots are good. I have those, steel in the treads and above the toes. A car can run over my toes and nothing will happen to me. I can wear those at school.

[EddietheZombie]

Ok, I think that will be good. Good luck to you and your friend.