Catholic churches

[RCT109]

hey all
so for all the Catholics here which rite do yall associate with?
for example

Roman rite, roman catholic

Orthodox, Greek, Bizentine rite

and others

just curious

Im Roman Catholic and prefer the Traditional mass (LATIN)

[ska8er]

Im Polish National Catholic and
also follow Russian Byzantine Rite.
One my parents and the other my
Grand parents.

[RCT109]

Im Polish National Catholic and
also follow Russian Byzantine Rite.
One my parents and the other my
Grand parents.


That interesting I want to learn more about the different rites Youtube just doesnt help

[ska8er]

That interesting I want to learn more about the different rites Youtube just doesnt help


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Catholic_Church


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Greek_Catholic_Church

[RCT109]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Catholic_Church


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Greek_Catholic_Church

Thanks man

[Oscar-V3.0]

Im Roman Catholic and prefer the Traditional mass (LATIN)

I dont get a word of latin, so I go with plain old English :D

[Emilyfox]

I’m surprised anyone admits to being catholic anymore after the evil stuff with kids

[Jeanbonhomme]

I’m surprised anyone admits to being catholic anymore after the evil stuff with kids

No f** relation between crimes commited by fews men, and the faith in God and religious pratice.

They are the same rate of pedophilia in lutherian, jew, muslim clergymen. And in any educationnal structures.

[Emilyfox]

I doubt that, the Catholics are more likely to do it because they don’t marry or have relationships like humans are supposed to
And their institution has been covering it up for centuries now

[RCT109]

I doubt that, the Catholics are more likely to do it because they don’t marry or have relationships like humans are supposed to
And their institution has been covering it up for centuries now


yes Catholicism does contain people, mostly men, who act out and abuse younger boys. However, the only reason it is ever brought up and more known about that other religion's clergy is like you said because Clergy cannot marry so there is more focus and not someones wife or mistress to cover it up for them.

I am by no means defending those who have done wrong for in Mathew 7:1-2 it says "Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

TO sum up if we cast judgement, when the it is our time to meet St. Peter, who we believe possesses the keys to kingdom of heaven, will look at our lives and judge us on how we judged others.

Again take this not as defense but rather an explanation as to why Catholics are still faithful

[Oscar-V3.0]

I’m surprised anyone admits to being catholic anymore after the evil stuff with kids

This would be like saying you are surprised anyone admits to be muslim after all the attacks by islamic terrorists.
This is just as ridiculous :rolleyes:

[Spooky_Eli]

This would be like saying you are surprised anyone admits to be muslim after all the attacks by islamic terrorists.
This is just as ridiculous :rolleyes:

Acctually, its far more ridiculous

[Emilyfox]

Mot really
The Catholic Church has done so much to cover up

[Josh15799]

Mot really
The Catholic Church has done so much to cover up

Probably no worse than what your countries government have done, theyre far more shady. Every religion has had issues over the years, but thats due to the absolute minority who clearly do not understand the messages of their own religion

[Josh15799]

hey all
so for all the Catholics here which rite do yall associate with?
for example

Roman rite, roman catholic

Orthodox, Greek, Bizentine rite

and others

just curious

Im Roman Catholic and prefer the Traditional mass (LATIN)

I am roman Catholic btw, but since I finished school I havent really gone to mass.

[Emilyfox]

When the cover ups of sex abuse happens from the top down, no

[Spooky_Eli]

Probably no worse than what your countries government have done, theyre far more shady. Every religion has had issues over the years, but thats due to the absolute minority who clearly do not understand the messages of their own religion

Absolute minority? of catholics? haha, your funny.

[Josh15799]

When the cover ups of sex abuse happens from the top down, no

Yes I agree with you, but again thats the minority. The messages are still very valid and encourage you to be the best person you can

[RCT109]

When the cover ups of sex abuse happens from the top down, no


Look i didnt start this thread to have an argument about whether something was covered up or not.

I do not know, no do i care to know, what faith you aline yourself with. This was meant to bring to light different practices of the Catholic faith from all over the world.

[Emilyfox]

It is one of more non-biblical versions of Christianity so it’s not surprising it has issues

[KatieCO2003]

i doubt that, the catholics are more likely to do it because they don’t marry or have relationships like humans are supposed to
and their institution has been covering it up for centuries now

bullshit.

[RCT109]

bullshit.

i agree with you

[KatieCO2003]

It is one of more non-biblical versions of Christianity so it’s not surprising it has issues

Emily, you are a bigot. If you substituted the word JEW for every trime you've used the word Catholic in this thread, how would you sound right now? Like a Nazi? Like the KKK?

And by the way, I've never known any Catholic, Priest or otherwise, that has molested anyone. My abuser was an athiest. Funny I didn't hear you say "I wonder how anyone could be an athiest after how Katie's athiest-mother tried to beat and kick her to death".

[Emilyfox]

Emily, you are a bigot. If you substituted the word JEW for every trime you've used the word Catholic in this thread, how would you sound right now? Like a Nazi? Like the KKK?

And by the way, I've never known any Catholic, Priest or otherwise, that has molested anyone. My abuser was an athiest. Funny I didn't hear you say "I wonder how anyone could be an athiest after how Katie's athiest-mother tried to beat and kick her to death".

I’m sorry you feel that way, I’ve got no issue with the people just the leaders that have allowed evil things to happen
I’m so sorry that happened to you and I don’t agree with atheists either but there isn’t some atheist organisation that have leaders find out one of their people have been raping kids send them to another country or area to work and cover up the crime
My dad was abused by the local priest and no one believed him but when others started making complaints all of a sudden, new priest was taking his place as he was off to go do missionary work
They do evil stuff

[Emilyfox]

bullshit.

You don’t think making men in positions of power never to marry, date, have sex or even be allowed to masturbate as anything like that which could be considered lustful won’t result in problems?

[RCT109]

I’m sorry you feel that way, I’ve got no issue with the people just the leaders that have allowed evil things to happen
I’m so sorry that happened to you and I don’t agree with atheists either but there isn’t some atheist organisation that have leaders find out one of their people have been raping kids send them to another country or area to work and cover up the crime
My dad was abused by the local priest and no one believed him but when others started making complaints all of a sudden, new priest was taking his place as he was off to go do missionary work
They do evil stuff

As much as a I feel for your dad, the sins of one man cannot claim the identity of a faith

[Emilyfox]

As much as a I feel for your dad, the sins of one man cannot claim the identity of a faith

It’s just that the cover ups and abuse goes all the way to the top
That cardinal in Australia who was like almost the second to the pope just was convicted of doing it

All their money, palaces, treasure and fancy dresses... it goes against God. That’s not the way of the humble son of a carpenter

[xSashax]

I doubt that, the Catholics are more likely to do it because they don’t marry or have relationships like humans are supposed to
And their institution has been covering it up for centuries now

That’s true... it’s not a normal life like that. I know the orthodox priests are at least allowed to marry.
Covering up the crimes just makes it worse.

[RCT109]

That’s true... it’s not a normal life like that. I know the orthodox priests are at least allowed to marry.
Covering up the crimes just makes it worse.

Allow me to prepose this thought for entertaining,

A married man, heterosexual, with a daughter
- rapes his daughter repeatedly
- wife learns after a year or so and still keeps quiet
- the 'family' moves new town no one knows who they are
- father starts going after other girl
-- wife still keeps it a secret


Doctor male, Pediatrics, molests his young male pts
- board knows nothing
- parents dont know
- kids act normal
- later its found out but nothing is officially done
- doctor moves and opens private practice
- cycle repeats


Female sports coach, records young girls in locker room
- no one knows until she accidentally leaves her personal laptop open
- she gets confronted by assistant coach
- deletes hard copies and they forget all about it
- she continues and no one is the wiser now because of cloud storage.


See coverups happen no matter what and just because someone pledges to be celibate doesn't mean they turn to molestation and rape of innocent children
please let us entertain these for a while

Emilyfox

[Emilyfox]

Allow me to prepose this thought for entertaining,

A married man, heterosexual, with a daughter
- rapes his daughter repeatedly
- wife learns after a year or so and still keeps quiet
- the 'family' moves new town no one knows who they are
- father starts going after other girl
-- wife still keeps it a secret


Doctor male, Pediatrics, molests his young male pts
- board knows nothing
- parents dont know
- kids act normal
- later its found out but nothing is officially done
- doctor moves and opens private practice
- cycle repeats


Female sports coach, records young girls in locker room
- no one knows until she accidentally leaves her personal laptop open
- she gets confronted by assistant coach
- deletes hard copies and they forget all about it
- she continues and no one is the wiser now because of cloud storage.


See coverups happen no matter what and just because someone pledges to be celibate doesn't mean they turn to molestation and rape of innocent children
please let us entertain these for a while

Emilyfox

Those examples don’t equal to the same thing
Those people aren’t claiming to be the world’s authority on morality who has the ability to absolve its members of sin and take people’s money to amass huge wealth and wield political power

[RCT109]

Those examples don’t equal to the same thing
Those people aren’t claiming to be the world’s authority on morality who has the ability to absolve its members of sin and take people’s money to amass huge wealth and wield political power


Maybe so but still we put blind trust and faith in these people not to harm us in anyway

[Emilyfox]

To a degree maybe with the trust.
But no conspiracy exists with the medical profession in covering up and moving pedo doctors the way the Vatican has done with priests

[Uniquemind]

The problem at the end of the day is that people rely on religious figures and power hierarchy to justify concretely the sanctity of a pastor, priest, father, teach, parent, or even a trusted friend.


Anybody can be a creep, and it’s important not to fall in idolatry or blind faith.

In the Catholic and Christian faith, the scriptures are clear, put faith ONLY on Jesus Christ, and if anybody claiming to represent him is doing behavior that is contrary to what Jesus Christ would do, then it’s wrong and you need not stress further.

Sexual sin of lust is damaging as it can hurt the body physically, mentally and spiritually. It’s a very powerful force that can be misused.

But insofar as exploring sexuality, the faith also allows marriage to explore that part of the human condition. But yes it is well known it doesn’t acknowledge non-heterosexual behavior period.

-bullying would also be out as well as a behavior as we aren’t supposed to judge others.

[Falcons_11]

It is one of more non-biblical versions of Christianity so it’s not surprising it has issues

Emily, would you support a ban on all entertainers and the entertainment industry because some of them are sexual abusers and predators?

[Emilyfox]

Emily, would you support a ban on all entertainers and the entertainment industry because some of them are sexual abusers and predators?

No - but I would support a ban on an individual and a ban on a studio (the church) if a high ranking senior executive (like a cardinal or pope) was involved in sexual abuse/cover ups