White woman and black man?

[unicornGirl]

White woman and black man.
I have some of my girlfriends who are with a black man.
How is that with you? Are you on it? Would that be suitable for you? How would your parents, friends react to that?

I think love knows no skin color. Blacks are very fazienierend and it is very good in bed?

[Natacha]

You are right. Love has no skin colour.
I might say no to people, who comes from a culture where women are deamed less.
But to think black men are somehow "better" in bed as a general thing, I don't think that is possible.

[Oscar-V3.0]

I say when you love someone it is based on their personality and character, not on their skin color :)

[InternetTeen]

I say when you love someone it is based on their personality and character, not on their skin color :)


What if it's a female Shrek?

[Oscar-V3.0]

What if it's a female Shrek?
I am not physically attracted to mrs shrek, not because she's green, but just because she is physically not my style :D

[SethfromMI]

True love has no color. Would I be willing to date a woman if she was dark/black?Sure if I truly loved her. It is ok to be more attracted by certain physical characteristics than others. Because let's be honest, while physical features should not be the sole or defining reason you date someone, it is nice to be with someone you are attracted to. So if you are attracted to someone and love them, then it should not matter what anyone else thinks.

As far as that blacks are better at sex thing, some might be others won't be. I am not black and I like to think I am very, very good at sex based on what I am told. Again though, while sex often ends up being part of a relationship, unless it is just purely sexual, it is just a part of the relationship, so don't date someone purely on their sexual ability.

[Caycedilla]

I don’t know why this is even an issue anymore. Like others have said, love is love. I don’t think you can really help who you are attracted to, both physically and emotionally. I wish the nonacceptance was erased entirely tbh. As far as sex goes, yeah I don’t think it’s accurate to group people and say they are all good at something or have advantages over others. If we are going to treat each other as individuals then let’s go all the way with it and get rid of stereotypes altogether

[arnorway]

I don’t know why this is even an issue anymore. Like others have said, love is love. I don’t think you can really help who you are attracted to, both physically and emotionally. I wish the nonacceptance was erased entirely tbh

100% agreement

[theblue]

How would this be suitable or not? Isn't it always the case that you either click with a person or not?

[BlackParadePixie]

Yeah this is definitely not even an issue for me. I was involved briefly with a black guy before, and if Mr. Right happens to come along at some point in the future and he is black, or of another skin color...I have no problem with that.

[Jordan99]

OK, I'm going to write something many of you will likely not like. Many of you will think I am being either a racist or politically incorrect but here goes and I hope you'll really try to grasp what I am saying and that I AM NOT a racist:

(1) The same God who created me created you and everyone on Earth.
(2) God didn't create any one race to be superior to another.
(3) To be a racist means that you think or feel your race is somehow superior to others...I DO NOT feel this way!
(4) I LOVE diversity and value diversity! Have you ever seen the movie, "The Wind Talkers"? This one movie proves the values of diversity.
(5) God created beautiful White people, Black people, Asian People, Arab People and so on. I love the diversity of all God's people and creations.
(6) It is NOT racism to have preferences and I would never criticize ANYONE from practicing their preferences.
(7) We cannot help to whom or to what we are attracted.
(8) I love everyone and I DO NOT have to date or have sex with someone just to prove I am not a racist!
(9) My BF of 4+ years is White with blonde hair and blue eyes. I am deeply in love with him.
(10) I am White and have blonde hair and blue eyes.
(11) Not only am I in love with my BF but I think we will make beautiful children together and I cannot wait to start having those children with him.
(12) I LOVE diversity! God made beautiful people of all colors and ethnicities and I think we should keep it that way. I want there to be beautiful Black people, beautiful White people, beautiful Hispanics, beautiful Asians, etc.
(13) I think it IS racist to make wide sweeping assumptions that particular races of people are better endowed, make better lovers in bed, etc. Those stereotypes are EXACTLY what promotes racism and discrimination and should NOT be tolerated.
(14) If I have offended ANYONE, I apologize...that was NOT my intention. I do not subscribe to stereotypes. I do not have to date or have sex with ANYONE to prove ANYTHING to ANYONE! God created beautiful people of ALL colors! Exercising our preferences, choices and filtering factors is perfectly acceptable and is NOT racism!


Thanks for reading and I hope you read my post while thinking critically and not while being concerned with politically correct culture. For those of you who indeed DO believe in stereotypes such as genetalia size or certain races being better in bed, I think you need to take a very deep look into your own biases and preconceptions.


Thanks,

Jordan

[Zika]

I might say no to people, who comes from a culture where women are deamed less.
But to think black men are somehow "better" in bed as a general thing, I don't think that is possible.


That's an interesting position and seems a little bigoted. We're talking about an individual here, one who may or may not subscribe to his culture's views.
In some Arab and Asian cultures, women are seen as less than men, even having fewer rights. But to assume every person in the culture feels that way, seems like classic prejudice.

As for the other part, I don't believe it either, but we do often accept certain culture based beliefs: French make good lovers, Scandinavians are friendly people, Italians are warm and loving. I don't believe those generalizations, but they seem more acceptable than Blacks being better in bed, for some reason.

[Zika]

(6) It is NOT racism to have preferences and I would never criticize ANYONE from practicing their preferences.
(7) We cannot help to whom or to what we are attracted.
(8) I DO NOT have to date or have sex with someone just to prove I am not a racist!
(12) I LOVE diversity! God made beautiful people of all colors and ethnicities and I think we should keep it that way. I want there to be beautiful Black people, beautiful White people, beautiful Hispanics, beautiful Asians, etc.


Some interesting thoughts. I agree with most.

(6), (7): Not to be pedantic, while I don't think it's necessarily racist to have preferences which are aligned with ones own demographics, I do think it's important for people to take a good look at [I]why[I] they have the preferences they have. Have they been indoctrinated to believe certain things about those people....maybe not even aware of this thought process....but it affects how attracted they are to that person.
It goes both ways. Some Caucasion guys are attracted to Asian women because of their belief that Asian woman take care of their men and are subservient.

(8): I agree. It goes beyond that. There's an area near me with a strong political leaning. The White parents teach their kids they have to make friends with non-Whites to show they're not prejudiced. That's wrong. But it doesn't hurt to self-reflect on why we don't have a larger diversity of friends. There may be very good reasons, but it may also reveal some less flattering beliefs and feelings.
I was surprised to read on another site, several threads where a number of girls, talking about sleepovers and the locker room in school, said they were uncomfortable getting naked in front of Black girls. They trusted them in their homes and liked socializing with them, but felt threatened taking their clothes of in front of them. That was the first I'd heard of that.

(12): Are you saying you're opposed to inter-racial procreation?

I am not black and I like to think I am very, very good at sex based on what I am told.

that's cute. I think everyone says that about themself, like everyone believes they're a good driver.

[Jordan99]

Some interesting thoughts. I agree with most.

(6), (7): Not to be pedantic, while I don't think it's necessarily racist to have preferences which are aligned with ones own demographics, I do think it's important for people to take a good look at [I]why[I] they have the preferences they have. Have they been indoctrinated to believe certain things about those people....maybe not even aware of this thought process....but it affects how attracted they are to that person.
It goes both ways. Some Caucasion guys are attracted to Asian women because of their belief that Asian woman take care of their men and are subservient.

(8): I agree. It goes beyond that. There's an area near me with a strong political leaning. The White parents teach their kids they have to make friends with non-Whites to show they're not prejudiced. That's wrong. But it doesn't hurt to self-reflect on why we don't have a larger diversity of friends. There may be very good reasons, but it may also reveal some less flattering beliefs and feelings.
I was surprised to read on another site, several threads where a number of girls, talking about sleepovers and the locker room in school, said they were uncomfortable getting naked in front of Black girls. They trusted them in their homes and liked socializing with them, but felt threatened taking their clothes of in front of them. That was the first I'd heard of that.

(12): Are you saying you're opposed to inter-racial procreation?



that's cute. I think everyone says that about themself, like everyone believes they're a good driver.

I think I made points 6,7 and 8 quite clearly and eloquently.

With regards to point #12, as I said, I love diversity. God made us diverse. There are beautiful Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians, etc. If two people fall in love and are an interracial couple who decide to pro-create, that is their business but I feel it is unfair to the child or children. Where will they fit in? What is their own special and specific heritage? Interracial procreation isn't for me but again, I DO NOT think, feel or believe that any race is superior to another which would be the definition of racism. Diversity already exists. Let's keep it that way.


Not saying I would or could never fall in love with a boy with brown eyes and brown hair but since my BF and I are both blondes with blue eyes, I am very much looking forward to having children with him who each resembles us. I want to see part of him in our children and I want to see part of me in our children. That is not racism. That is not wrong. That is preference and NONE of us should be demonized or criticized for exercising our personal preferences.

P.S. I'm a HORRIBLE driver ;)

[Jinglebottom]

Interracial relationships are frowned upon and not socially acceptable here.

[tessa-]

What is “fazienierend”?

[Oscar-V3.0]

Jordan99 what is your point exactly?

[SethfromMI]

Some interesting thoughts. I agree with most.

(6), (7): Not to be pedantic, while I don't think it's necessarily racist to have preferences which are aligned with ones own demographics, I do think it's important for people to take a good look at [I]why[I] they have the preferences they have. Have they been indoctrinated to believe certain things about those people....maybe not even aware of this thought process....but it affects how attracted they are to that person.
It goes both ways. Some Caucasion guys are attracted to Asian women because of their belief that Asian woman take care of their men and are subservient.

(8): I agree. It goes beyond that. There's an area near me with a strong political leaning. The White parents teach their kids they have to make friends with non-Whites to show they're not prejudiced. That's wrong. But it doesn't hurt to self-reflect on why we don't have a larger diversity of friends. There may be very good reasons, but it may also reveal some less flattering beliefs and feelings.
I was surprised to read on another site, several threads where a number of girls, talking about sleepovers and the locker room in school, said they were uncomfortable getting naked in front of Black girls. They trusted them in their homes and liked socializing with them, but felt threatened taking their clothes of in front of them. That was the first I'd heard of that.

(12): Are you saying you're opposed to inter-racial procreation?



that's cute. I think everyone says that about themself, like everyone believes they're a good driver.

Well I say that based on what all the people I have been with told me. Oh by the way skippy, I am a good driver. I can drive through a raging blizzard and not flinch once. but you have a nice night.


Back to the OP, date who you want to, regardless of color. end of story.

[Jordan99]

Jordan99 what is your point exactly?

If after my making a point-by-point statement of my personal beliefs you still do not get it, then I am afraid my friend, you never will.

[Zika]

Well I say that based on what all the people I have been with told me. Oh by the way skippy, I am a good driver. I can drive through a raging blizzard and not flinch once. but you have a nice night.


Back to the OP, date who you want to, regardless of color. end of story.

And you proved my point lol

[Zika]

I think I made points 6,7 and 8 quite clearly and eloquently.

With regards to point #12, as I said, I love diversity. God made us diverse. There are beautiful Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians, etc. If two people fall in love and are an interracial couple who decide to pro-create, that is their business but I feel it is unfair to the child or children. Where will they fit in? What is their own special and specific heritage? Interracial procreation isn't for me but again, I DO NOT think, feel or believe that any race is superior to another which would be the definition of racism. Diversity already exists. Let's keep it that way.


Not saying I would or could never fall in love with a boy with brown eyes and brown hair but since my BF and I are both blondes with blue eyes, I am very much looking forward to having children with him who each resembles us. I want to see part of him in our children and I want to see part of me in our children. That is not racism. That is not wrong. That is preference and NONE of us should be demonized or criticized for exercising our personal preferences.

P.S. I'm a HORRIBLE driver ;)

You did make your points clearly (though I wouldn't say eloquently). I wasn't asking for clarification of what you said, I was suggesting looking deeper into oneself about those thoughts. Some/?many people find it so uncomfortable to look into themselves and where their beliefs come from, they become defensive about it. It's too bad you couldn't have addressed what I wrote.

As for (8), I have no idea why you included that. I said I agree with you and expanded on what you said. While I wasn't 'eloquent,' I certainly was clear. In fact, I said "I agree."

I'm very surprise at your response to (12). Are you saying you're anti-miscegenation?
Wouldn't an interracial child be another example of this diversity you 'love?'
The childrens' heritage would be a combination of their parents' heritages.
People who send away DNA to be tested and a report generated as to their background, they're almost all finding they're much more of a mixture of ethnicities than they thought.
Almost all Blacks in the US, except immigrants from Carribean countries are a mixture of Black and White or Black and American Indian.
The question of where they'll fit in is interesting. In they are generally accepted as members of the darker skin group of their lineage. Black/Whites are accepted by the Black community as Black.
There's no need to keep races 'pure.'



What is “fazienierend”?

German for 'fascinating.'

[tessa-]

Ohhhhh
Thanks Zika

[tessa-]

OK, I'm going to write something many of you will likely not like. Many of you will think I am being either a racist or politically incorrect but here goes and I hope you'll really try to grasp what I am saying and that I AM NOT a racist:

(1) The same God who created me created you and everyone on Earth.
(2) God didn't create any one race to be superior to another.
(3) To be a racist means that you think or feel your race is somehow superior to others...I DO NOT feel this way!
(4) I LOVE diversity and value diversity! Have you ever seen the movie, "The Wind Talkers"? This one movie proves the values of diversity.
(5) God created beautiful White people, Black people, Asian People, Arab People and so on. I love the diversity of all God's people and creations.
(6) It is NOT racism to have preferences and I would never criticize ANYONE from practicing their preferences.
(7) We cannot help to whom or to what we are attracted.
(8) I love everyone and I DO NOT have to date or have sex with someone just to prove I am not a racist!
(9) My BF of 4+ years is White with blonde hair and blue eyes. I am deeply in love with him.
(10) I am White and have blonde hair and blue eyes.
(11) Not only am I in love with my BF but I think we will make beautiful children together and I cannot wait to start having those children with him.
(12) I LOVE diversity! God made beautiful people of all colors and ethnicities and I think we should keep it that way. I want there to be beautiful Black people, beautiful White people, beautiful Hispanics, beautiful Asians, etc.
(13) I think it IS racist to make wide sweeping assumptions that that particular races of people are better endowed, make better lovers in bed, etc. Those stereotypes are EXACTLY what promotes racism and discrimination and should NOT be tolerated.
(14) If I have offended ANYONE, I apologize...that was NOT my intention. I do not subscribe to stereotypes. I do not have to date or have sex with ANYONE to prove ANYTHING to ANYONE! God created beautiful people of ALL colors! Exercising our preferences, choices and filtering factors is perfectly acceptable and is NOT racism!


Thanks for reading and I hope you read my post while thinking critically and not while being concerned with politically correct culture. For those of you who indeed DO believe in stereotypes such as genetalia size or certain races being better in bed, I think you need to take a very deep look into your own biases and preconceptions.


Thanks,

Jordan

The world needs more like you Jordan <3

[Jordan99]

The world needs more like you Jordan <3

Thanks, Tessa. Thanks too for not being like the new member who keeps trying to argue with me. I think (in fact I know) I explained myself quite well. Unfortunately some on here simply want to argue and belittle the points-of-view of others. It isn't enough for us to disagree (i.e. have "diversity" of thought); some people on here have to beat down others who don't share their opinion. You show MUCH more maturity than the person I'm speaking of. Have a great night, Tessa :)

Insults removed. Keep this off the forum. ~Mars

[Zika]

Thanks, Tessa. Thanks too for not being like the knucklehead new member who keeps trying to argue with me. I think (in fact I know) I explained myself quite well. Unfortunately some on here simply want to argue and belittle the points-of-view of others. It isn't enough for us to disagree (i.e. have "diversity" of thought); some people on here have to beat down others who don't share their opinion. You show MUCH more maturity than the idiot I'm speaking of. Have a great night, Tessa :)

haha I imagine I'm the 'knucklehead new member :).' If so, boy are you shallow. I'm not arguing at all. And you did explain yourself adequately. I was simply challenging people to think deeper about what draws them to a person.
Man, you are a combination of ultra-sensitive and paranoid. I didn't belittle your pov at. all. And in fact, for the most part (except for your support of anti_miscegenation), I don't disagree with you.

You feel I'm arguing with you, belittling your point of view and beating you down.
Clearly you not only don't comprehend English well, you're totally opposed to any view other than your own.
Note that until you initiated it in your last post, I didn't attack you. You attacked me bec you weren't able to make an intelligent response to anything I said.
You're almost funny, sweetie.

Ohhhhh
Thanks Zika

My pleasure:yes:

[tessa-]

haha I imagine I'm the 'knucklehead new member :).' If so, boy are you shallow. I'm not arguing at all. And you did explain yourself adequately. I was simply challenging people to think deeper about what draws them to a person.
Man, you are a combination of ultra-sensitive and paranoid. I didn't belittle your pov at. all. And in fact, for the most part (except for your support of anti_miscegenation), I don't disagree with you.

You feel I'm arguing with you, belittling your point of view and beating you down.
Clearly you not only don't comprehend English well, you're totally opposed to any view other than your own.
Note that until you initiated it in your last post, I didn't attack you. You attacked me bec you weren't able to make an intelligent response to anything I said.
You're almost funny, sweetie.



My pleasure:yes:

Don’t be so rude to good people Zika :(

[Zika]

Don’t be so rude to good people Zika :(

I don't know her well enough to know if she's a good person.
And I'm not the one who started with the 'knucklehead' and 'idiot' comments.

If you want to quote me, please read enough of the exchange that you have a context from which to comment.

thank you.

[Oscar-V3.0]

If after my making a point-by-point statement of my personal beliefs you still do not get it, then I am afraid my friend, you never will.
You wrote a roman, saying some people may not like what you write.
But in the end you just... state the obvious...
Hence my question what's your point?

[Natacha]

That's an interesting position and seems a little bigoted. We're talking about an individual here, one who may or may not subscribe to his culture's views.
In some Arab and Asian cultures, women are seen as less than men, even having fewer rights. But to assume every person in the culture feels that way, seems like classic prejudice.

As for the other part, I don't believe it either, but we do often accept certain culture based beliefs: French make good lovers, Scandinavians are friendly people, Italians are warm and loving. I don't believe those generalizations, but they seem more acceptable than Blacks being better in bed, for some reason.

I wouldn't just say "You are asian, so you've got no chance" Haha of course.
But to people from some cultures I would be more careful. I don't generalize. Seems like you wanted a discussion, so you made me sound worse

[InternetTeen]

I am not physically attracted to mrs shrek, not because she's green, but just because she is physically not my style :D


To be honest, female Shrek was not bad before she turned into an ogre ;)

[Natacha]

To be honest, female Shrek was not bad before she turned into an ogre ;)

Her personality stays the same :-)

[Shiny Moon]

Like others said, love is love, skin color doesn't matter.

It's a shame that out there are some assholes parents that would get angry if their son/daughter dates a black person.

[Zika]

I wouldn't just say "You are asian, so you've got no chance" Haha of course.
But to people from some cultures I would be more careful. I don't generalize. Seems like you wanted a discussion, so you made me sound worse

It wasn't my intention to make you sound bad. I've read several of your posts and the view you expressed in this thread seemed at odds with the impression I had of you. I was really wondering if you could explain your view in a way which did not fit classic prejudice.

And then you seem to contradict yourself in this post when you said "people from some cultures I would be more careful. I don't generalize." If you were more careful with people from some cultures, then you [I]do[I] generalize. But a lot of people do that. A girl was telling me she bought a car from a guy and she was a lot more careful because he was Jewish. And of course there's the classic situation of a store clerk watching a Black customer more carefully than a White one.

[Zika]

You wrote a roman, saying some people may not like what you write.
But in the end you just... state the obvious...
Hence my question what's your point?

Hey, maybe it was you Jordan99 referred to as an 'idiot' and not me. Don't worry, anyone who has to resort to those tactics, and doesn't address your questions, isn't worth thinking about.

Do you think you qualify as a 'new knucklehead?' If not, I guess she was talking about me lol.

The ad hominem attack is the last resort of one who has nothing intelligent to say.

[Caycedilla]

People are being rude to each other in this topic. We are talking about tolerance and acceptance and there’s no need to be like this.

Can we be nice please?

[Zika]

People are being rude to each other in this topic. We are talking about tolerance and acceptance and there’s no need to be like this.

Can we be nice please?

to whom is that addressed?

[Caycedilla]

to whom is that addressed?

Everyone. If you’ve got a problem with what someone said then just report it and stop complaining. People are trying to talk about this topic and others are name calling and responding to it. Just stop. It’s enough

I apologize to everyone for this and my previous response, but let’s just try and be civil

[Zika]

Everyone. If you’ve got a problem with what someone said then just report it and stop complaining. People are trying to talk about this topic and others are name calling and responding to it. Just stop. It’s enough

I apologize to everyone for this and my previous response, but let’s just try and be civil

I agree, name calling is childish. But I'm not big into 'reporting' someone. I find that somewhat spineless. I'd rather call them out on it and they can respond, if they have something to say.

As for 'tolerance and acceptance,' that trendy phrase doesn't preclude an intelligent discussion and open exchange of ideas...at least it doesn't for me.

And while it may not be true of positions in this thread (with some question), some views should not be tolerated or accepted. Let's not buy into bumper sticker mentality.

[Sailor Mars]

This post is wildly off topic, and therefore I am simply locking this thread. Future cases with the same members who bash or insult one another and derail threads will lead to deleted posts and infractions. ~Mars