View Full Version : Circumcised or natural...which do you like?
unicornGirl
December 5th, 2018, 04:02 AM
Circumcised or natural...which do you like?
From my native USA you usually only know it circumcised. In Germany where I am now studying with foreskin.
You like your penises to have foreskin or be bare? Religious reasons or other? If you don't care, weigh in as well.
For those of you that have had both, do you have a pref or do you honestly not care?
I had both. And I must say that I clearly cut preference. Is visually simply nicer the glans gets bigger. And he's always cleaner.
Especially limp I really don't find nice with foreskin.
Taylorrrb
December 5th, 2018, 10:15 AM
I honestly prefer cut guys. It’s just my personal preference
Beccabear
December 5th, 2018, 04:33 PM
Only seen/ handled one and he was cut
Caycedilla
December 6th, 2018, 02:29 PM
I've only been with one guy and he was circumcised. I really don't have anything to compare in real life but from things I may or may not have seen online :lol: I probably prefer circumcised anyways
That would never factor in to whether or not I have sex or a relationship with a guy though
liane505
December 6th, 2018, 03:33 PM
From what I know boys here are not circumcised. The first time I saw one like that I was around 12 and was very upset. I thought he must have had an accident. Now I know it is done for medical reasons, particularly if the foreskin does not pull back properly. I don't think it will matter to me one way or the other if I like the guy.
Mswimmer
December 6th, 2018, 05:08 PM
It does not really matter. If I had to choose circumcised probably
angelina
December 6th, 2018, 05:30 PM
natural or uncut is always preferred..cut loses its charm..it is a personal choice
Allover Kelly
December 6th, 2018, 05:39 PM
My way of thinking is, if you that far will you really stop and say"Nope not going to happen, put that thing away.
Caitigrrl
December 6th, 2018, 10:39 PM
Natural is best, shouldn’t cut intimate parts off of girls or boys
Shiny Moon
December 7th, 2018, 01:11 PM
I like both, but I don't support circumcision unless it is done for medical reasons.
Lila123
December 8th, 2018, 10:17 PM
Circumcised. It’s smoother and looks better.
Nikki_1
December 9th, 2018, 04:35 AM
I don't have much experience with this, I know that circumcision means the removal of a boy's foreskin, it sounds really painful to me but I know that is is done for medical and religious reasons. What I don't know is how it affects the boy, does it have any effect on the way he feels, like does it make his penis more or less sensitive?
To be honest, I think I would prefer a boy in his 'natural' state, I think it is kinda sexier when his tip bit is covered and I try to imagine how it feels for him when he like pulls the skin back and shows his tip bit.
I don't think it would actually feel much different for me if he was cut or uncut, I don't judge a boy on his penis, if you love him that doesn't matter.
LOL, sorry for the long answer but you did ask!! :D
TessTheGreat
December 11th, 2018, 08:19 AM
I've never seen one that has been circumcised but I've only ever seen dad and a cousin. but I don't understand why anyone would do this to a boy unless he actually needs it for a medical reason.
Jordan99
December 11th, 2018, 04:39 PM
I'm only experienced with circumcised penises (even both of my brothers are circumcised) however, I love my BF and it wouldn't matter to me if he were not circumcised.
ClaireHofmann
December 11th, 2018, 08:40 PM
Don't really have a preference, if he knows how to use his penis then he will probably satisfy me in bed. But it's fun playing with their foreskin sometimes, especially during oral.
Ashley2004
December 12th, 2018, 08:56 AM
I prefer circumcised
Anna Kadlecova
December 12th, 2018, 10:09 AM
I never seen circumcised
Jesi234
December 12th, 2018, 10:58 AM
I honestly prefer cut guys. It’s just my personal preference
Did you start having sex?
Taylorrrb
December 12th, 2018, 01:01 PM
Did you start having sex?
Yeah years ago
ashleigh7
December 12th, 2018, 01:22 PM
I honestly prefer cut guys. It’s just my personal preference
Same here :)
Natacha
December 12th, 2018, 01:22 PM
They don't cut the boys in our culture, so that's the only thing I've tried. I don't like the concept of cutting in children for no health-reason.
As for the cleanliness argument, I haven't seen any problems with guys witn foreskin.
Jesi234
December 12th, 2018, 01:33 PM
Yeah years ago
Great :) could you PM me? Would like to ask you for soms advice . Thx :*
Brigje
December 12th, 2018, 02:49 PM
They don't cut the boys in our culture, so that's the only thing I've tried. I don't like the concept of cutting in children for no health-reason.
As for the cleanliness argument, I haven't seen any problems with guys witn foreskin.
Same here.
I am still surprised that educated people (parents) use arguments like, cleanliness health and risk of diseases as a reason to cut boys.
A male that is not properly cleaning his penis is stinky and nasty, cut or uncut. Same for girls who don't properly clean their vagina.
Looks and feel is a personal reason.
Natacha
December 12th, 2018, 02:52 PM
Same here.
I am still surprised that educated people (parents) us arguments like, cleanliness health and risk of diseases as a reason to cut boys.
A male that is not properly cleaning his penis is stinky and nasty, cut or uncut. Same for girls who don't properly clean their vagina.
Looks and feel is a personal reason.
Exactly. And how can people who say thei've only tried cut, say it's because it's cleaner. How can they know?
NudistFun
December 14th, 2018, 11:48 PM
I've seen quite a few.. and to be honest, I don't care.
There's something sexy about the head of a penis being revealed when a guy gets hard and his foreskin pulls back..
But there's also something sexy about a cut cock too.
Either way, as long as the shape and size are to my liking, I'm happy!
LucyCee
December 15th, 2018, 12:16 PM
Doesn't matter to me really. Its what it's attached to is really what counts for me.
Bluegrass
December 17th, 2018, 06:15 AM
My parents got my brother circumcised for the reason they said it just looks better.I do agree on this but I'm fine dealing with both if I like the guy.
Katrinchen
December 17th, 2018, 09:06 AM
My parents got my brother circumcised for the reason they said it just looks better.I do agree on this but I'm fine dealing with both if I like the guy.
hmmm, but if they let them cut his nipples, because it looks in their eyes better, would you agree also?
i think it is horrible to cut a little boy for no healthy and needed reason :(
Brigje
December 17th, 2018, 09:20 AM
My parents got my brother circumcised for the reason they said it just looks better.I do agree on this but I'm fine dealing with both if I like the guy.
What would you have said when your parents altered your body as a baby, because they think it looks better?
Bluegrass
December 17th, 2018, 09:33 AM
hmmm, but if they let them cut his nipples, because it looks in their eyes better, would you agree also?
i think it is horrible to cut a little boy for no healthy and needed reason :(
My brother is happy the way it looks he said he feels the other way is kind of ugly.My dad has his cut to and said he feels its the right way to look.I think the boy does not remember the pain so they feel the look is worth it.
Bluegrass
December 17th, 2018, 09:41 AM
What would you have said when your parents altered your body as a baby, because they think it looks better?
Some guys want to get this operation as adults cause they like the look.I guess they wish their parents did it for them.
Katrinchen
December 17th, 2018, 09:51 AM
there is a thread you could look in:
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2044647
Brigje
December 17th, 2018, 10:08 AM
Some guys want to get this operation as adults cause they like the look.I guess they wish their parents did it for them.
Maybe they wish, but at least they have a choice.
Brigje
December 17th, 2018, 10:14 AM
Some guys want to get this operation as adults cause they like the look.I guess they wish their parents did it for them.
My brother is happy the way it looks he said he feels the other way is kind of ugly.My dad has his cut to and said he feels its the right way to look.I think the boy does not remember the pain so they feel the look is worth it.
Looks preferences are a personal choice and are influenced by what people "think" is the norm by what they see around them.
tessa-
December 19th, 2018, 04:55 PM
I’ve seen both at a nude beach
I think the natural ones look best
Gabrielle1
December 19th, 2018, 10:12 PM
I’ve seen both at a nude beach
I think the natural ones look best
Same here natural honestly does look better
HardCandyGirl
December 28th, 2018, 02:01 PM
Interesting
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7628146/
American Circumcision
"American Circumcision is about the modern circumcision debate, and the growing Intactivist movement, which says that all human beings should have the right to make their own choices about their bodies"
tinkerkell
January 29th, 2019, 01:27 AM
I've had both and can definitely say that I prefer uncut cocks. I mean, a penis is a penis, if I've got one out in front of me I'm not gonna walk away, but I like knowing that the boy has all the nerve endings that he was born with still intact, and since I grew up in a family where uncut is the norm, that's what looks the most "normal" to me and most appealing. Sure sometimes the extra sensitivity makes a guy cum way too early but I know how to get him back up in working condition in no time
LDavis05
January 29th, 2019, 08:17 AM
I have only seen uncut ones, but it wouldn’t matter to me
ImJulia
January 31st, 2019, 09:34 AM
only been with one guy and he is cut
Emilyfox
January 31st, 2019, 04:05 PM
Natural seems to be nicer for me, it’s cute
And mitigating a baby boy for a reason that no longer applies to life today is wrong
Shaythen
April 28th, 2019, 07:15 PM
Only seen “cut” looks cleaner to me
Jessica.lang19
May 29th, 2019, 04:37 PM
I think circumcised "looks" better because the head is out and visible but I don't really care if the guy is uncut. I find it fun to play with the foreskin during sexy times, lol
PumpkinPie
May 30th, 2019, 05:02 PM
Circumcised, please! It's cleaner and cuter.
jeanZ
May 30th, 2019, 06:05 PM
I prefer cut; I think it looks nicer, but if a guy was uncut, it would make absolutely no difference to me.
Zandra
May 30th, 2019, 06:22 PM
Circumcised, please! It's cleaner and cuter.
So you’d turn down an uncut gut just because he was uncut?
Jessica.lang19
May 31st, 2019, 12:12 PM
So you’d turn down an uncut gut just because he was uncut?
Hopefully she wouldn't. That would be incredibly shallow and hurtful for the guy, also once the foreskin rolls back it looks like a circumcised one so there isn't that much difference
PumpkinPie
May 31st, 2019, 02:05 PM
So you’d turn down an uncut gut just because he was uncut?
Not entirely, but I definitely wouldn't do oral if he was uncut. And I'd be super grossed out, so probably pretty turned off generally.
Jessica.lang19
May 31st, 2019, 02:46 PM
Not entirely, but I definitely wouldn't do oral if he was uncut. And I'd be super grossed out, so probably pretty turned off generally.
Why would you be grossed out to do oral? You have never done oral on an uncut guy?
PumpkinPie
June 1st, 2019, 05:56 AM
Why would you be grossed out to do oral? You have never done oral on an uncut guy?
Never, I think they're really disgusting, I wouldn't consider it to be honest.
Brigje
June 1st, 2019, 08:47 AM
Never, I think they're really disgusting, I wouldn't consider it to be honest.
I don't like it to get to personal, but your comment made it personal.
I think that you are very inexperienced and immature and don't know where you are talking about.
I know boys saying the same about giving oral to a girl;
"they're really disgusting, I wouldn't consider it to be honest"
What would you say to such a boy?
Pultost
June 1st, 2019, 10:27 PM
Never, I think they're really disgusting, I wouldn't consider it to be honest.
What makes them disgusting, exactly? When the foreskin is pulled back it's really not that much difference.
Catt
June 1st, 2019, 11:29 PM
Circumcised, please! It's cleaner and cuter.
That’s really not true, stats are showing now that guys with circumcised penises are more likely to get aids
Probably because Africans think it helps prevent aids and so many got cut and kept having unsafe sex, but still
They’re as clean if they’ve got access to running water
If you wouldn’t want your genitals mutilated, don’t expect a guys to be
It’s unethical to do it to a baby, it serves no purpose to do it anymore other than to ascribe to barbaric aspects of cultures
Posts merged. Use the edit button next time. ~Mars
Common.Name
June 1st, 2019, 11:34 PM
I like both, but I don't support circumcision unless it is done for medical reasons.
Agreed.
onyx
June 2nd, 2019, 12:58 AM
I don't like it to get to personal, but your comment made it personal.
I think that you are very inexperienced and immature and don't know where you are talking about.
I know boys saying the same about giving oral to a girl;
"they're really disgusting, I wouldn't consider it to be honest"
What would you say to such a boy?
here is a fun idea, every girl who thinks circumcision is better and uncircumcised is bad should have their labia removed it seems like they make the same amount of sense
PumpkinPie
June 2nd, 2019, 05:41 AM
What makes them disgusting, exactly? When the foreskin is pulled back it's really not that much difference.
Honestly they look like slugs or something. Just... not my thing. It's my body and my choice what I put in it, surely? I find the strong opposition hard.
I wouldn't care if a guy said the same - his body, his right to like what he likes.
Pultost
June 2nd, 2019, 05:49 AM
Honestly they look like slugs or something. Just... not my thing. It's my body and my choice what I put in it, surely? I find the strong opposition hard.
I wouldn't care if a guy said the same - his body, his right to like what he likes.
Haha, it does kinda look like a slug when it's not pulled back. :lol: And of course, whatever does it for you. ^^
Sailor Mars
June 3rd, 2019, 08:31 PM
This thread is not for arguing or debating. Keep it on topic.
Priya02
June 4th, 2019, 07:59 AM
My bf is cut and i love it, looks so hot.
Have seen uncut ones in porn and friends, didnt look as hot to me but curious anyway hahah
gurquenjen
June 4th, 2019, 02:26 PM
Personally, I prefer uncircumcised guys because a) they feel better and b) mutilating someone for purely aesthetic/societal (don't talk to me about the medical 'benefits' of circumcision) reasons when they are too young to provide consent.
That being said, I'm not going to turn a guy away because his parents decided to mutilate him 20 years ago. Because that's rude. And besides, if I'm at a point where I'm seeing a penis, it's going inside me.
BJade
June 4th, 2019, 04:52 PM
Personally, I prefer uncircumcised guys because a) they feel better and b) mutilating someone for purely aesthetic/societal (don't talk to me about the medical 'benefits' of circumcision) reasons when they are too young to provide consent.
That being said, I'm not going to turn a guy away because his parents decided to mutilate him 20 years ago. Because that's rude. And besides, if I'm at a point where I'm seeing a penis, it's going inside me.
I agree it's how they are ment to be naturally, so unless theres a real reason to do anything to change it for a proper medical reason then that's how it should be, theres a reason its evolved like that. And it's not acceptable to mutilate female genitals, so what's the difference for Male genitals?
Rachie97
June 6th, 2019, 06:17 PM
Where I live circumcision was extremely prevalent when guys my age were born so I’ve never seen an uncircumcised penis in the flesh so that’s what I’m accustomed too, I have no experience to say I prefer either. Thankfully more and more parents are not mutilating their baby these days.
ceto2
June 9th, 2019, 03:46 PM
Love forplay to start with. Then do what we want
Diana2002
December 4th, 2019, 12:18 PM
uncircumcised for me :D
AshleighB
December 4th, 2019, 12:39 PM
Only been with uncut before so would say natural, but wouldn’t turn down I guy if he was cut
xELENAx
December 4th, 2019, 06:46 PM
I’ve never seen an uncircumcised penis in real life so I can't really say until I "get my hands on one"...lol
tina2
January 22nd, 2020, 11:39 PM
Circumcised. That was the first I saw and sucked so that is what I like.
Makenna_
April 30th, 2020, 05:27 PM
I think they both look nice but the natural ones are nicer
Leilani22
May 2nd, 2020, 04:18 AM
It’s really not something I’d think about. I don’t mind. There’s way more in boys than cut or uncut.
Marissaxoxo
May 2nd, 2020, 06:24 AM
Circumcised
Surfergirl
May 8th, 2020, 09:51 PM
I think natural is best, I wouldn’t want someone saying my bits had to be modified without me having a choice because of someone else’s religion or culture, it’s barbaric
sjbull
May 12th, 2020, 04:45 AM
I think natural is best, I wouldn’t want someone saying my bits had to be modified without me having a choice because of someone else’s religion or culture, it’s barbaric
100% agree
Jess523
May 13th, 2020, 10:26 AM
I personally think uncut looks weird.
Brigje
May 13th, 2020, 01:56 PM
I think natural is best, I wouldn’t want someone saying my bits had to be modified without me having a choice because of someone else’s religion or culture, it’s barbaric
I totally agree with you on this
Brigje
May 13th, 2020, 02:00 PM
I personally think uncut looks weird.
Uncut is the natural normal look, there is nothing weird about it.
It's weird that people who are not used to see uncut males, find it weird to see a penis in it's normal natural way.
Pultost
May 13th, 2020, 02:35 PM
I think natural is best, I wouldn’t want someone saying my bits had to be modified without me having a choice because of someone else’s religion or culture, it’s barbaric
Hear hear!
Jess523
May 14th, 2020, 11:06 AM
Uncut is the natural normal look, there is nothing weird about it.
It's weird that people who are not used to see uncut males, find it weird to see a penis in it's normal natural way.
And I think it’s weird that others judge someone else’s opinion as weird simply because they are saying what THEY think.
jess2006
May 14th, 2020, 02:06 PM
I think if you set the two side by side, I would probably pick circumcised... but honestly I don't think it would be a deal breaker either way
Allover Kelly
May 14th, 2020, 03:52 PM
To me if it is at the point where you see it, kind of past the point where you go. Naw sorry not for me.
Surfergirl
May 15th, 2020, 08:54 PM
To me if it is at the point where you see it, kind of past the point where you go. Naw sorry not for me.
Yeah totally, it’s not like one is bad and the other isn’t
They’re both great
I just think I wouldn’t choose to have it done to my son, it should be his choice as an adult
Allover Kelly
May 16th, 2020, 06:32 PM
Helmet, Anteater, Spear point, Small Mushroom and Plunger head. They all work if they know what they are doing.
Bella19
May 17th, 2020, 04:59 AM
I like them both
sjbull
May 17th, 2020, 05:23 AM
I haven’t much experience and only seen in circumcised, I totally understand for health reasons, but when we are fighting against FGM on religious and cultural grounds, should we be doing the same for circumcision or let’s call it what it is MGM
Katie06
May 17th, 2020, 07:25 AM
I don’t have any experience but I would say natural
Katie2003
May 17th, 2020, 12:08 PM
Because nearly all the boys and men I've seen naked at the naturist resorts and nude beaches are circumcised, and that is the normal thing here in the US, I vote for circumcised.
I've had sex with two boys and both were circumcised. TBH I don't see the natural uncut look as being visually appealing to me.
I'd also be willing to say that if I lived in Europe or somewhere that natural was prevalent, I'd prolly find that to be my choice if it was all that I'd grown up with.
sjbull
May 17th, 2020, 02:14 PM
Because nearly all the boys and men I've seen naked at the naturist resorts and nude beaches are circumcised, and that is the normal thing here in the US, I vote for circumcised.
I've had sex with two boys and both were circumcised. TBH I don't see the natural uncut look as being visually appealing to me.
I'd also be willing to say that if I lived in Europe or somewhere that natural was prevalent, I'd prolly find that to be my choice if it was all that I'd grown up with.
Why is it normal, what is the reason for this?
Katie2003
May 17th, 2020, 02:54 PM
Why is it normal, what is the reason for this?
From what I've learned, that's the way it's been in the US for several generations. It's something they automatically do with newborn boys, and it became a custom, a tradition. That makes it normal for those of us who live here. I've prolly seen many thousands of naked males at the naturist resorts since my family is heavily into that, and only a very few of them are not circumcised. Even when we attend naturist resorts and nude beaches in Canada, only a small number of males there are natural.
sjbull
May 17th, 2020, 03:58 PM
From what I've learned, that's the way it's been in the US for several generations. It's something they automatically do with newborn boys, and it became a custom, a tradition. That makes it normal for those of us who live here. I've prolly seen many thousands of naked males at the naturist resorts since my family is heavily into that, and only a very few of them are not circumcised. Even when we attend naturist resorts and nude beaches in Canada, only a small number of males there are natural.
Does that make is right, because it’s always been done it’s normal, what are your views on FGM?
Zandra
May 17th, 2020, 04:14 PM
From what I've learned, that's the way it's been in the US for several generations. It's something they automatically do with newborn boys, and it became a custom, a tradition. That makes it normal for those of us who live here. I've prolly seen many thousands of naked males at the naturist resorts since my family is heavily into that, and only a very few of them are not circumcised. Even when we attend naturist resorts and nude beaches in Canada, only a small number of males there are natural.
Ya it’s crazy.
ESM331
May 18th, 2020, 06:43 AM
I'm going to say cut, I've only seen cut penises IRL only seen pics of uncut.
minda015
May 21st, 2020, 02:15 AM
uncut is my choice..looks nice
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 05:54 AM
It’s scary how many girls prefer to see a mutilated penis, this is so wrong and we need to be stopping it, not saying we like it or prefer it
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 07:10 AM
It’s scary how many girls prefer to see a mutilated penis, this is so wrong and we need to be stopping it, not saying we like it or prefer it
Counter point: you could say piercings are mutations yet we prefer to have our ears pierced.
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 07:42 AM
Counter point: you could say piercings are mutations yet we prefer to have our ears pierced.
We choose to have our ears pierced, most places not allowed to pierce minors without parental consent, baby boys do not choose to have their genitals mutilated for religious or cultural beliefs
There is a huge difference
Pultost
May 21st, 2020, 07:49 AM
It’s scary how many girls prefer to see a mutilated penis, this is so wrong and we need to be stopping it, not saying we like it or prefer it
I couldn't agree more.
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 09:02 AM
We choose to have our ears pierced, most places not allowed to pierce minors without parental consent, baby boys do not choose to have their genitals mutilated for religious or cultural beliefs
There is a huge difference
iloli didnt get my ears pierced by choice alot of girls I know got there ears pierced as baby. And it shouldnt be scary that people have a preference. Shouldnt judge people for liking something.
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 09:58 AM
iloli didnt get my ears pierced by choice alot of girls I know got there ears pierced as baby. And it shouldnt be scary that people have a preference. Shouldnt judge people for liking something.
absolutely should judge people for supporting genital mutilation, this shouldn't even be a discussion
do you agree with FGM?
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 10:07 AM
absolutely should judge people for supporting genital mutilation, this shouldn't even be a discussion
do you agree with FGM?
Ok thats where I'll stop this discussion cause theres no reasoning with you your set in your was and I have my opinions
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 10:11 AM
Ok thats where I'll stop this discussion cause theres no reasoning with you your set in your was and I have my opinions
again, you've not answered my question, what is your view on FGM?
you can't walk away because you you've been called out, well you can, but then I think you leave with your view very clear
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 10:15 AM
again, you've not answered my question, what is your view on FGM?
you can't walk away because you you've been called out, well you can, but then I think you leave with your view very clear
Or maybe I don't wanna derail this thread anymore? Read the title thats what this thread is about not about genital mutilation which is wrong its about PERSONAL OPINIONS on if you like circumcised or uncircumcised penis
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 10:16 AM
Or maybe I don't wanna derail this thread anymore? Read the title thats what this thread is about not about genital mutilation which is wrong its about PERSONAL OPINIONS on if you like circumcised or uncircumcised penis
ok you win
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 10:20 AM
ok you win
It's not about winning. I prefer the look of circumcised penis. You prefer the look of uncircumcised. This isnt the thread to discuss if circumcision is mutilation and it's definitely not the thread to attack people who like something different
sjbull
May 21st, 2020, 10:27 AM
It's not about winning. I prefer the look of circumcised penis. You prefer the look of uncircumcised. This isnt the thread to discuss if circumcision is mutilation and it's definitely not the thread to attack people who like something different
not attacking you and its strange you feel attacked, almost guilty maybe, just questions, that you don't like to answer
there should not even be a question of preference and this post should have been called out long ago as inappropriate
I notice you STILL avoid giving me your view on FGM, which for me says everything I need to know
I will not respond further
Kari
May 21st, 2020, 10:30 AM
not attacking you and its strange you feel attacked, almost guilty maybe, just questions, that you don't like to answer
there should not even be a question of preference and this post should have been called out long ago as inappropriate
I notice you STILL avoid giving me your view on FGM, which for me says everything I need to know
I will not respond further
I told you that mutilation is wrong but I guess whatever fits your point of view fits. If you have nothing further that pertains to the thread discussion then dont respond here
Pultost
May 21st, 2020, 10:31 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/tFK8urY6XHj2w/giphy.gif
Jess523
May 21st, 2020, 12:04 PM
Well this is exciting lol
jess2006
May 22nd, 2020, 05:17 PM
Well this is exciting lol
That escalated quickly...
knives
May 23rd, 2020, 12:06 AM
Mother Nature knows best I think
They both look good usually
Not sure if I agree that it’s abuse or not but it’s taking someones choice or forcing a religion or culture on them permanently
Sailor Mars
May 23rd, 2020, 12:44 PM
This isn’t puberty related :locked:
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