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Matt2005
July 17th, 2018, 01:54 AM
Hey everybody I just joined to ask advice on this situation I have with my mom. So I had to go to the doctor the other day for my check up because my mom makes me go yearly. The doctor checked everything then checked my penis last, I’m uncircumcised so he pushed the foreskin back and asked me how often I wash and if I pull it back to pee I answered all the questions he had and he told me to get dressed and wait outside. He talked to my mom in the room for like 30 minutes then she finally came out and we went home. So yesterday my mom told me that she’s gonna have me circumcised cause the doctor said im not cleaning under the skin enough and my foreskin doesn’t roll back right. What should I do to get her to change her mind? I really don’t wanna get circumcised and I don’t really think I have any problems, I’m really scared cause my aunt got my cousin circumcised a few months ago and he told me it’s really irritating feeling his head rubbing all day on his underwear and it starts to dry out and peel like a sunburn after awhile. I really need some help quick because the appointment is in a week and I’ve already tried begging her but she won’t change and if I keep bugging her about it I’m gonna get in trouble. Maybe some info or videos I can show her to change her mind because she won’t listen to me.

INACTIVEchaosphere
July 17th, 2018, 02:27 AM
Hey everybody I just joined to ask advice on this situation I have with my mom. So I had to go to the doctor the other day for my check up because my mom makes me go yearly. The doctor checked everything then checked my penis last, I’m uncircumcised so he pushed the foreskin back and asked me how often I wash and if I pull it back to pee I answered all the questions he had and he told me to get dressed and wait outside. He talked to my mom in the room for like 30 minutes then she finally came out and we went home. So yesterday my mom told me that she’s gonna have me circumcised cause the doctor said im not cleaning under the skin enough and my foreskin doesn’t roll back right. What should I do to get her to change her mind? I really don’t wanna get circumcised and I don’t really think I have any problems, I’m really scared cause my aunt got my cousin circumcised a few months ago and he told me it’s really irritating feeling his head rubbing all day on his underwear and it starts to dry out and peel like a sunburn after awhile. I really need some help quick because the appointment is in a week and I’ve already tried begging her but she won’t change and if I keep bugging her about it I’m gonna get in trouble. Maybe some info or videos I can show her to change her mind because she won’t listen to me.
It depends on how your foreskin is failing to roll back correctly. If it's just because of phimosis (your foreskin falling behind the head and rest of your penis in growth) then there are stretching exercises and steroid creams that can be prescribed and circumcision is a last resort. However, it sounds like it might be related to a sanitary/other medical cause, and I don't know you, your penis, or your doctor personally and it would be irresponsible of me not to defer to the medically trained professional. I usually don't support unwanted circumcision but in medical situations it might be necessary, I don't know. I recommend asking if you can recieve a, "looser circumcision." (Look it up for better details than I can give) I personally have my foreskin intact but I've heard of plenty of guys on here who were left with some portion of their foreskin, which preserves some of the sensitivity and functionality that the foreskin gives. Not everybody has their ENTIRE foreskin removed. As for the irritation and peeling in some cases, that isn't permanent and just takes a bit for your body to adjust to that area being partially or completely uncovered, and also just use some creams and lotions specifically for the penis or sensitive areas to keep it moisturized. Obviously I'm not trained in this and everything here should be taken with a grain of salt and advice as a friend, not as a medical professional.

Hermes
July 17th, 2018, 03:17 AM
There is some information from the UK NHS on Phimosis. (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/phimosis/)

In summary, treatment for a tight foreskin is only needed if it is causing inflamation and other treatments should be tried first. Rushing straight into circumcision is an over-reaction.

alexander_
July 17th, 2018, 03:18 AM
If your foreskin can retract to reveal the head, I don't get why there is a problem. As Chaosphere said, if you can ask your doctor for a cream (0.05% betamethasone), or maybe research some foreskin stretches and keep yourself clean you could prove to your parents and doctor that circumcision is not necessary for you. Since you are still going through puberty, your foreskin will normally sort it self out by the time you are like 15-16-17, and I think it's pretty stupid that circumcision is the only option your doctor has given you. I'm circumcised but I have had some friends with similar issues where it just worked it self out, with the help of a few stretches. I don't know if your mother will listen but just tell her that your penis is still growing and that your foreskin will detach from your head and work perfectly fine in the near future.

I'm not 100% sure this is your issue but here is something you can try: When you shower, pull the foreskin back the most you can without forcing it, and then wash the head with the other hand. If you do this each time you shower for a little bit, you'll see results. It'll slide back a little more every day.

I was circumcised for a similar reason and I never "peeled" like your cousin said. You just need comfortable, loose underwear so that head-rubbing is kept to a minimum (I've heard there is a brand called "Ynside" that specialises in underwear for circumcised men, you could look into that). Your head will dry out slowly over a few months, since there is nothing covering it anymore. Personally, I don't think circumcision is such a bad thing, and depending on where you live it may be the norm, but if you do end up having to get circumcised, try and go for a "low and loose" style opposed to a high and tight because that will keep the skin on your shaft loose, similar to what you have now.

~ I am no medical professional, so make sure you do your own research ~

Matt2005
July 17th, 2018, 04:38 AM
I don’t know what to tell her I’ve tried everything. I’m 13 now and my mom said that I should have no problems with it at my age. I can’t say anything else or I’ll get in trouble. My mom said my aunt was really happy with how my cousins circumcision went so since the doctor said circumcision is an option for me she said it’s tge best option. I asked about the cream but she said no because it costs money and the circumcision is free. I think maybe if my mom watches a video or something she might change her mind when she sees how much it hurts for the boy, I looked but I can’t find anything that would change her mind.

HelloYellow
July 17th, 2018, 05:03 AM
There is some information from the UK NHS on Phimosis. (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/phimosis/)

In summary, treatment for a tight foreskin is only needed if it is causing inflamation and other treatments should be tried first. Rushing straight into circumcision is an over-reaction.
This is definitely right. Maybe you can do some foreskin streching exercises and clean down there and ask your mum to let the doctor to re-examine to see if you can make any progress naturally rather than going straight to circumcision

scott2002
July 17th, 2018, 05:57 AM
I just joined to ask advice on this situation I have with my mom. So I had to go to the doctor the other day for my check up. The doctor checked everything then checked my penis last, I’m uncircumcised so he pushed the foreskin back and asked me how often I wash and if I pull it back to pee I answered all the questions he had and he told me to get dressed and wait outside.
Where do you live? Here in the USA I think it would be really unusual for any doctor to have a private conversation with a mom and not even have you present. That just doesn't sound right to me.

He talked to my mom in the room for like 30 minutes then she finally came out and we went home. So yesterday my mom told me that she’s gonna have me circumcised cause the doctor said im not cleaning under the skin enough and my foreskin doesn’t roll back right.
What??? It's YOUR BODY! Not hers!! Maybe your cleaning hygiene could use some improvement, but getting circumcised is not the right answer for not washing it well.

You don't mention if you live with dad, too, or if your dad is in your life at all? Is he uncircumcised? I'd want to talk this over with my dad if I were you, and have him stick up for me.

What should I do to get her to change her mind?
Tell her NO. It's YOUR body, and it's unnecessary. If you are in the USA I doubt insurance would pay for it because it's not medically necessary. If she still insists, look up "Child Protective Services" and give them a call.

jerrion
July 17th, 2018, 07:24 AM
I don’t know what to tell her I’ve tried everything. I’m 13 now and my mom said that I should have no problems with it at my age. I can’t say anything else or I’ll get in trouble. My mom said my aunt was really happy with how my cousins circumcision went so since the doctor said circumcision is an option for me she said it’s tge best option. I asked about the cream but she said no because it costs money and the circumcision is free. I think maybe if my mom watches a video or something she might change her mind when she sees how much it hurts for the boy, I looked but I can’t find anything that would change her mind.

Doctors just want to get money while you can do alot of things to treat a foreskin naturally. I wish you to pass this problem with the less painful way. In my opinion just tell your mom that it's your decision to take about it since its your body not her

alexander_
July 17th, 2018, 07:34 AM
It may be a bit strange, but if you really want to turn her off of it maybe find some video on youtube or something with a scalpel or something, it may scare her off of the procedure then back it up with some facts or pros and cons or something? I know you said you'd get in trouble if you talked about it anymore, but take a stance, it's your body not hers.

Coping
July 17th, 2018, 08:52 AM
Hey everybody I just joined to ask advice on this situation I have with my mom. So I had to go to the doctor the other day for my check up because my mom makes me go yearly. The doctor checked everything then checked my penis last, I’m uncircumcised so he pushed the foreskin back and asked me how often I wash and if I pull it back to pee I answered all the questions he had and he told me to get dressed and wait outside. He talked to my mom in the room for like 30 minutes then she finally came out and we went home. So yesterday my mom told me that she’s gonna have me circumcised cause the doctor said im not cleaning under the skin enough and my foreskin doesn’t roll back right. What should I do to get her to change her mind? I really don’t wanna get circumcised and I don’t really think I have any problems, I’m really scared cause my aunt got my cousin circumcised a few months ago and he told me it’s really irritating feeling his head rubbing all day on his underwear and it starts to dry out and peel like a sunburn after awhile. I really need some help quick because the appointment is in a week and I’ve already tried begging her but she won’t change and if I keep bugging her about it I’m gonna get in trouble. Maybe some info or videos I can show her to change her mind because she won’t listen to me.

It's your body and she should respect your decision regarding it. If you clean under your foreskin with warm water every time you shower (probably daily, give how hot the Summer is right now I'd imagine) you should be able to keep it clean and free from smegma build-up.

My foreskin was pretty tight around your age but it loosened off over the next couple of years and I am still intact like most UK guys are. Topical corticosteroids (which are totally different from the not-to-be-recommended anabolic steroids bodybuilders use) are 100% safe - I use it on my skin for eczema without any problem. One minor side effect it that it can thin and loosen the skinif use a lot, which would be ideal in your case. I'd ask how much it would cost to get a tube of that. After all, what is the price of keeping your body as you want it? Your foreskin has 20,000 nerve endings on it and I'd want to keep 'em all, if I were you. :P

If you really NEED circumcising, you can get it done in 3 or 4 years' time; there's no rush. I'd leave it be unless it's causing you pain or discomfort. It's also worth bearing in mind that circumcision is a surgical procedure and all surgery carries risk.

Hermes
July 17th, 2018, 10:34 AM
...My mom said my aunt was really happy with how my cousins circumcision went...

Your aunt is not the one who got circumcised so why should her opinion count for anything?

...I asked about the cream but she said no because it costs money and the circumcision is free...

Where do you live that this cream would be such a lot of money? Here in the UK, if it were prescribed by the doctor, it would cost £8.60 for a tube that would last for ages.

You need to continue the dialogue with your mum even if you fear getting into trouble. At some point you need to get her to realise how strongly you feel about this and the fact your are prepared not to let the matter drop even after threats of trouble will help to communicate that to her.

You're right to try to educate her first. Showing her a video might work but I don't have any to hand and you can search the net for them as easily as I can.

If that doesn't work you'll have to get more extreme. As an example you could say that if she cares so little for your long term happiness to choose surgery that you do not want over a reasonably cheap cream then maybe you'd be better off with someone else.

Finally, if all else fails and you get dragged to the hospital you need to tell everyone from the medical profession that you come into contact with that you don't want this and that if they go ahead you will be suing them as soon as you are able to.

Birds18
July 17th, 2018, 11:10 AM
Hey everybody I just joined to ask advice on this situation I have with my mom. So I had to go to the doctor the other day for my check up because my mom makes me go yearly. The doctor checked everything then checked my penis last, I’m uncircumcised so he pushed the foreskin back and asked me how often I wash and if I pull it back to pee I answered all the questions he had and he told me to get dressed and wait outside. He talked to my mom in the room for like 30 minutes then she finally came out and we went home. So yesterday my mom told me that she’s gonna have me circumcised cause the doctor said im not cleaning under the skin enough and my foreskin doesn’t roll back right. What should I do to get her to change her mind? I really don’t wanna get circumcised and I don’t really think I have any problems, I’m really scared cause my aunt got my cousin circumcised a few months ago and he told me it’s really irritating feeling his head rubbing all day on his underwear and it starts to dry out and peel like a sunburn after awhile. I really need some help quick because the appointment is in a week and I’ve already tried begging her but she won’t change and if I keep bugging her about it I’m gonna get in trouble. Maybe some info or videos I can show her to change her mind because she won’t listen to me.

How old are you?

JQL---
July 17th, 2018, 11:28 AM
Your aunt is not the one who got circumcised so why should her opinion count for anything?



Where do you live that this cream would be such a lot of money? Here in the UK, if it were prescribed by the doctor, it would cost £8.60 for a tube that would last for ages.

You need to continue the dialogue with your mum even if you fear getting into trouble. At some point you need to get her to realise how strongly you feel about this and the fact your are prepared not to let the matter drop even after threats of trouble will help to communicate that to her.

You're right to try to educate her first. Showing her a video might work but I don't have any to hand and you can search the net for them as easily as I can.

If that doesn't work you'll have to get more extreme. As an example you could say that if she cares so little for your long term happiness to choose surgery that you do not want over a reasonably cheap cream then maybe you'd be better off with someone else.

Finally, if all else fails and you get dragged to the hospital you need to tell everyone from the medical profession that you come into contact with that you don't want this and that if they go ahead you will be suing them as soon as you are able to.

Saying that you will sue the doctors will do nothing. You can't sue because consent was given by your mother. What I would recommend is talking to your father. I believe you must have consent from both parents.

Birds18
July 17th, 2018, 11:42 AM
I don't think you can be forced to have it done.

JQL---
July 17th, 2018, 01:03 PM
I don't think you can be forced to have it done.

If you are under 18, you can.

Birds18
July 17th, 2018, 01:14 PM
I'm not sure about that. I were him I would just refuse to go to the appointment.
If she won't change her mind I would just refuse to get in the car on the day of the appointment.
If he somehow is forced to go I would make it 100% clear to everyone at the doctor's office that you do not want this done to you.

I want more details

Posts merged~Dalcourt

Matt2005
July 17th, 2018, 09:12 PM
Hi again to answer all the questions I’m 13 and I live in the United States. My dad isn’t around and from what I know he’s circumcised. I don’t think refusing to get in the car or leave the house will work cause I’ll get punished and put in the car. My cousin told me he said to the doctor and nurses that he didn’t want it but they said it’s his parents decision and that it really is for his own good so he tried to put up a struggle so they got more nurses and held him down then put straps on his legs and arms so I’m kinda scared there gonna do that to me if I fight it. The only really bad circumcision videos I found are from different countries and they don’t look like their doing it in a hospital and it looks pretty brutal but my mom will probably say that’s not how mine is gonna get done or something like that. My cousin doesn’t have a dad either so it was pretty much his moms decision to do the circumcision. Just ask me any questions if you want more details and I’ll answer them ASAP.

Vic_Fire
July 17th, 2018, 11:57 PM
i agrre with Chaospere. and right, it's your right to refuse from circumsion

Birds18
July 18th, 2018, 06:46 AM
I would take a punishment to save my penis. Plus do a better job washing my penis.

Coping
July 18th, 2018, 09:20 AM
If you are under 18, you can.

Given that it's not life-saving surgery, most Doctors' sense of professional ethics would mean they should respect the wishes of the patient. :cool:

Birds18
July 18th, 2018, 09:23 AM
When is the surgery supposed to happen ?

JQL---
July 18th, 2018, 09:25 AM
Given that it's not life-saving surgery, most Doctors' sense of professional ethics would mean they should respect the wishes of the patient. :cool:
It'd be awesome if it worked that way but it doesn't. Minors are minors. The circumcision decision is up to the parents if they want to do it the day you're born or the day before you turn 18.

Birds18
July 18th, 2018, 09:29 AM
I don't think that a doctor's office would Hold you down and force you to have the surgery that you do not want.

Matt2005
July 18th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Hi again. I would take a punishment to save my foreskin but it won’t happen that way if I get punished ill still have to get the circumcision. The appointment is in like 3 days and I’m getting pretty scared cause I don’t know what to do. I’ve been thinking maybe I should just run away before the surgery so they cancel it but what if they chase me and pull me back they have lots of nurses and can hold me down because it’s at the hospital not the doctors office. I do try to wash under the skin good and since my mom said that she booked the circumcision I’ve been cleaning extra good but it still hasn’t changed anything. When my cousin got circumcised he showed me what it looked like before and it looked ok like there was nothing wrong it did have a little smell but mine does to from what my friends told me the smell is normal, then he showed me what it looked like when he got home from the hospital it looked really brutal there was big stitches lots of dry blood it was all black and blue and it was so swollen it looked like a puffer fish not to mention how he was crying and how much he was saying that it is burning and stinging. He only got like 2 days of school because the doctor said that’s all he needs off so my aunt sent him back to school he told me he could barley walk because the rubbing in his undies was so irritating because it really hurts to get a boner after and everytime he’d move the rubbing would cause him to get a boner and he said it hurt really bad. I don’t want this to happen to my penis. Ask any questions you guys have I’m not embarrassed thanks for all the advice so far.

Hermes
July 18th, 2018, 12:24 PM
I don't think that a doctor's office would Hold you down and force you to have the surgery that you do not want.

America would be a very backward place if their medical profession work this way. What I'd expect to happen here is that once it becomes apparent that the patient is not a willing participant that the patient and his parents are sent away to have a chat and re-book if and when agreement is reached.

Back to the OP I do wonder if there is any more to this. Is this purely a medical thing or is there a religious dimension?

So retreating a little from the day of surgery and thinking about what to say to mum in the meantime I think saying that it will hurt or that there will be physical discomfort or inconvenience may not do the trick.

Imagine instead the procedure under discussion was to put braces on your teeth to straighten them. You might say you don't want it done because it will hurt and you will be embarrassed when you smile and people see the brace. Your mum would then say that this is all temporary and that once you're older and have nice straight teeth and a confident smile for the rest of your life you will look back and realise that it was worth it and she may be right - few people would consider straight teeth not to be an improvement on crooked teeth.

So, particularly living in the USA, you need to consider the possibility that your mum has absorbed some of the nonsense about being circumcised being better* and sees this much the same way. Possibly she thinks that once you have got used to your "nice, clean, neat circumcised penis" that you will realise she was right all along. If you don't think that is the case and want to remain uncut then you need to tell her that there will never be a time when you will see your circumcised penis and be glad it was done and that on the contrary each time you see it you will feel mutilated and resentful of her for getting you cut and that this resentment will likely last for the rest of your life. She may think circumcised is better but she doesn't have a penis so how can she know? Besides it is your penis, not hers. The point about life long resentment does not have to be true, but it is the line of argument you need to take.

* I am not suggesting it is inferior, either, but I do believe boys should make their own choice.

Birds18
July 18th, 2018, 02:20 PM
If this all really did start from him not cleaning his penis properly Then I would make sure that for the next week I'm actually cleaning it properly. If you are forced to go to the doctor's office for the appointment like I said before make everyone in the office 100% clear that you do not want this.

Vic_Fire
July 18th, 2018, 05:01 PM
I do try to wash under the skin good and since my mom said that she booked the circumcision I’ve been cleaning extra good but it still hasn’t changed anything.well try to explain her that good cleaning does'nt give a momental result but if you'll clean everyday all the time, you and doctor will see an effect. and also try to ask your cousin to explain how it feels for him after being cut. so my be you will make her to decide to wait for like a month at least with that surgery.

Birds18
July 18th, 2018, 05:50 PM
Don't doctors take an oath do no harm?
Remember the movie my sister's keeper

INACTIVEchaosphere
July 18th, 2018, 09:05 PM
If OP's mother is going to force the issue then there isn't much choice. It'll be up to the doctors to decide what the best course of the action for the patient's heath is, I'd imagine. Honestly if I was in that position, I'd first find out if you're going to the same doctor as your cousin, as that sounds kinda like substandard work, I could be totally wrong but how you describe the state of your cousin's penis after the operation doesn't sound like the norm. If there's no alternative and you talk with the surgeon and it's deemed necessary, I would still try to ask if a High and Loose or Low and Loose circumcision style (depending on erect and flacid lengths from what I've read) is possible in your case to minimize removal of skin.

Birds18
July 19th, 2018, 09:56 AM
That might not be a bad ide

NamelessHuman
July 19th, 2018, 10:23 AM
Since your under 18, it’s not really your choice for anything medical. Running away from home really isn’t worth it, neither is getting yourself dragged their as it’ll make things worse.

I know you don’t want to, but it’s best just to go along with it and try and get it done in the loose style. It will be pretty much the same as you have now, but your head will always be showing, but the rest of your penis will still be covered in foreskin. Generally the operation and healing isn’t that bad, based on what a few people who have had it done on here have said, including another one that was in the same situation as you.

You will have to wait a few weeks till you can jack off, but you won’t need to learn a new way totally. You can just move the skin up and down the shaft instead of over the head, I do that sometimes and it’s fine.

Matt2005
July 20th, 2018, 01:28 PM
He everyone. So tomorrow is the appointment for the circumcision and at this point I don’t think there’s anything else I can do or say to change my moms mind and I guess some of you guys are right that I’m under 18 and it’s not my decision it does make sense. I did some research and it turns out your parents legally are the only ones that can make important medical decisions for their son or daughter and if your under 18 the kid actually isn’t allowed to make medical decisions for themselves. Thanks everybody for the advice I tried everything that you guys recommended but it doesn’t look like anything is gonna work, to make everything worse I actually get spankings when I’m in trouble and I’ve gotten like 3 in the past 2 days so my butts pretty sore, there is pretty much nothing I can say unless I wanna get another whopping. I’ll tell you guys how it went when I get back from the hospital tomorrow. Wish me luck

Birds18
July 20th, 2018, 02:20 PM
Good luck.
Are you going to request a loose circumcision?

Hermes
July 20th, 2018, 05:48 PM
Saturday seems a strange day for planned surgery.

....I actually get spankings when I’m in trouble and I’ve gotten like 3 in the past 2 days so my butts pretty sore...

It's time the dynamic of the relationship between you and mum changed from her treating you like a five year old to having a sensible conversation about things. At 13 I would certainly not have allowed my mum to spank me.

What did your mum say when you told her you would resent her for the rest of your life? If she wasn't crying then you would need to go on and ask he if she really wanted that the only reason you'd contemplate coming to her funeral would be to dance upon her grave in relief that she had gone. And you need to be really convincing. If she responds to that kind of thing by attempting to hit you then you need to either run away from her or hit her back so hard she is completely taken by suprise. She should be listening to you, not telling to shut up or be punished.

How is she proposing to take you to the hospital? If by car, and I knew where the car keys are kept I'd make sure she can't use them - sneak outside and drop them down a drain in the street. If she thought cream for your penis was expensive she will find replacement car keys much more expensive and, with any luck, that will make it impossible to get to the appointment on time. If she says she can't afford new cars keys and now can't get to her job you tell her that is her fault for not listening to you.

If you can't do that just refuse to get in the car and say it is time she actually listenned to you. Run away if you have to - unless she is an athete you're bound to be faster than her. I don't mean permanently, just long enough to avoid going to the hospital. If she does catch you shout "leave me alone" and hit her hard if she tries to grab you. If she tries to take you by bus, quickly jump off at a stop other than the hospital. Even better if you sneak through the doors just before they lose and thus leave her on the bus. Even if she follows you it will add to the delay.

All authority is based on fear. Once you show that you don't fear her she then has to start talking rather than just saying she is in charge and hitting you.

Finally, if she somehow gets you to the hospital I would tell the medics you don't want it done and refuse to co-operate and you tell your mum that if the circumcision is done that some time later, while she is sleeping you will find something suitable and smash her front teeth; that this will be fair because that way you will have each lost something that can never be got back. In both cases it is possible to get something cosmetically similar but actually inferior.

INACTIVEchaosphere
July 20th, 2018, 09:06 PM
Saturday seems a strange day for planned surgery.



It's time the dynamic of the relationship between you and mum changed from her treating you like a five year old to having a sensible conversation about things. At 13 I would certainly not have allowed my mum to spank me.

What did your mum say when you told her you would resent her for the rest of your life? If she wasn't crying then you would need to go on and ask he if she really wanted that the only reason you'd contemplate coming to her funeral would be to dance upon her grave in relief that she had gone. And you need to be really convincing. If she responds to that kind of thing by attempting to hit you then you need to either run away from her or hit her back so hard she is completely taken by suprise. She should be listening to you, not telling to shut up or be punished.

How is she proposing to take you to the hospital? If by car, and I knew where the car keys are kept I'd make sure she can't use them - sneak outside and drop them down a drain in the street. If she thought cream for your penis was expensive she will find replacement car keys much more expensive and, with any luck, that will make it impossible to get to the appointment on time. If she says she can't afford new cars keys and now can't get to her job you tell her that is her fault for not listening to you.

If you can't do that just refuse to get in the car and say it is time she actually listenned to you. Run away if you have to - unless she is an athete you're bound to be faster than her. I don't mean permanently, just long enough to avoid going to the hospital. If she does catch you shout "leave me alone" and hit her hard if she tries to grab you. If she tries to take you by bus, quickly jump off at a stop other than the hospital. Even better if you sneak through the doors just before they lose and thus leave her on the bus. Even if she follows you it will add to the delay.

All authority is based on fear. Once you show that you don't fear her she then has to start talking rather than just saying she is in charge and hitting you.

Finally, if she somehow gets you to the hospital I would tell the medics you don't want it done and refuse to co-operate and you tell your mum that if the circumcision is done that some time later, while she is sleeping you will find something suitable and smash her front teeth; that this will be fair because that way you will have each lost something that can never be got back. In both cases it is possible to get something cosmetically similar but actually inferior.

What... What are you even talking about dude? Everything here will only escalate the situation and make things not only worse for OP if he were to go through with them, but also make things worse for the people around him. I can totally understand righteous indignation but not absurdity. This is a tough situation, but not worth ruining his life over.

He everyone. So tomorrow is the appointment for the circumcision and at this point I don’t think there’s anything else I can do or say to change my moms mind and I guess some of you guys are right that I’m under 18 and it’s not my decision it does make sense. I did some research and it turns out your parents legally are the only ones that can make important medical decisions for their son or daughter and if your under 18 the kid actually isn’t allowed to make medical decisions for themselves. Thanks everybody for the advice I tried everything that you guys recommended but it doesn’t look like anything is gonna work, to make everything worse I actually get spankings when I’m in trouble and I’ve gotten like 3 in the past 2 days so my butts pretty sore, there is pretty much nothing I can say unless I wanna get another whopping. I’ll tell you guys how it went when I get back from the hospital tomorrow. Wish me luck

Best of luck to you dude, if you find the time and motivation let us know how things go, either here or in a new thread. No matter how it goes down I'm sure people around here will still offer advice and well-wishes.

JQL---
July 20th, 2018, 11:59 PM
He everyone. So tomorrow is the appointment for the circumcision and at this point I don’t think there’s anything else I can do or say to change my moms mind and I guess some of you guys are right that I’m under 18 and it’s not my decision it does make sense. I did some research and it turns out your parents legally are the only ones that can make important medical decisions for their son or daughter and if your under 18 the kid actually isn’t allowed to make medical decisions for themselves. Thanks everybody for the advice I tried everything that you guys recommended but it doesn’t look like anything is gonna work, to make everything worse I actually get spankings when I’m in trouble and I’ve gotten like 3 in the past 2 days so my butts pretty sore, there is pretty much nothing I can say unless I wanna get another whopping. I’ll tell you guys how it went when I get back from the hospital tomorrow. Wish me luck

Hey. Good luck. And hey! Possibility you prefer it.

Hermes
July 21st, 2018, 07:02 AM
What... What are you even talking about dude? Everything here will only escalate the situation and make things not only worse for OP if he were to go through with them, but also make things worse for the people around him. I can totally understand righteous indignation but not absurdity. This is a tough situation, but not worth ruining his life over.

That's not my experience and I am referring to an argument I had with my dad. Normally we talked things through but for some reason that had not worked in this case, things had got very heated and at one point he grabbed me to either rmake me do something or stop me from doing something and I responded by pushing him across the room and onto the floor causing my mum to start screaming. After everyone had calmed down things carried on much as before with no animosity but there was also a slightly different relationship between me and my dad - he treated me more like an adult than he had before, not that he was ever as authoritarian as the OPs mum.

What I believe had happened is that up until that point he had approached every discussion with the knowledge that he would try to talk me round to his point of view but that if all else failed, force could be used. Now he knew that he could not rely on force and had to be genuinely persuasive or accept that he had lost the argument and I would do my own thing.

I think our parents views of how much independence we should have lag behind what we are capable of, even if we sometimes over-estimate ourselves, and to our mums in particular we will always be "her little baby" however big we grow. But the OP's mum seems to be particularly stubborn and have her head firmly in the sand and some kind of shock is needed to wake her up. Add to that the quackery of a doctor who doesn't discuss a proposed course of treatment with his patient, only with the patients parent and seems, at the same time, unaware that the rest of the world is perfectly healthy without rushing into surgery like this. Then add in that, according to the OP, his mum is too mean to pay for cream and would prefer to just claim the circumcision on health insurance and this is a somewhat unusual, extreme and dysfunctional situation hence proposing an unusual and extreme solution. Yes, I suspect there would be a big storm at the time but that would die down and hopefully the OP's mum would be able to reflect and conclude that keeping the family together was a higher priority than imposing her will as as God-given right upon her son, especially when it concerns his body. What is we get taught in resisting sexual predators? That our bodies are ours and that others have to right to meddle with it.

Bubba24
July 21st, 2018, 12:30 PM
How did it go?

NamelessHuman
July 21st, 2018, 12:32 PM
How did it go?

He just went in the surgery like 20 mins ago, will probs hear from him in an hour, or 2 at most.

Birds18
July 21st, 2018, 01:00 PM
He just went in the surgery like 20 mins ago, will probs hear from him in an hour, or 2 at most.


This really sucks for him

NamelessHuman
July 21st, 2018, 03:33 PM
Just an update guys, I’ve being talking to Matthew a little since the surgery.

He got cut high and tight, they used a laser to cut the skin and stitches to close the wound. He said the surgery wasn’t that bad, but his dick is really sore and stinging now.

Vic_Fire
July 21st, 2018, 05:01 PM
Let's stop discussion about it, guys. Matt will say by himself if he would think it's ok to say more.

Birds18
July 21st, 2018, 05:06 PM
Well that's definitely sucks but it will be ok I guess

NamelessHuman
July 21st, 2018, 05:12 PM
Let's stop discussion about it, guys. Matt will say by himself if he would think it's ok to say more.

He’s in a lot of pain at the moment, so he isn’t really in the position to make a full post. So I just briefed everyone that it went well, but as with most surgeries, he’s quite uncomfortable/in-pain now.

I’m sure he’ll tell you all the full information, as there’s a lot more to it.

Birds18
July 21st, 2018, 05:14 PM
It will be interesting to hear what he has to say

Vic_Fire
July 21st, 2018, 05:26 PM
He’s in a lot of pain at the moment, so he isn’t really in the position to make a full post. So I just briefed everyone that it went well, but as with most surgeries, he’s quite uncomfortable/in-pain now.

I’m sure he’ll tell you all the full information, as there’s a lot more to it.

i talked with Matt a lot in a chat before surgery. after it we just didn't meet online. so i said from what i understood about his mood about all that history. He is a good guy, and i don't want if we would make something like reality show around him. That is my reason not to discuss until he would say.

NamelessHuman
July 21st, 2018, 05:28 PM
i talked with Matt a lot in a chat before surgery. after it we just didn't meet online. so i said from what i understood about his mood about all that history. He is a good guy, and i don't want if we would make something like reality show around him. That is my reason not to discuss until he would say.

That’s why I’m not being overly detailed, I’m just giving quite basic info that I’m pretty certain he will say of later.

Matt2005
July 27th, 2018, 05:00 PM
Hi everybody sorry it took so long to reply. The operation went ok it hurt the most the first few days but it’s better now it still hurts and my head bothers me when I’m wearing undies but the doctor said that’s normal because the head used to be covered and now it’s exposed so it will take some time to get used too. Not much else to say thanks for all the advice that was given

abcdeqwe
July 27th, 2018, 05:08 PM
Just tell her you’ll start clean under the skin more, It is really dangerous to get circumcised as a teenager so I would suggests you do anything to make her change her mind.

cutboys
July 27th, 2018, 05:16 PM
hey.if youe prepuce back full and cleaning donot must to get cut.if they want cut.you study about circumcision.cut is not bad .just is one choce not most

cutboys
July 27th, 2018, 05:17 PM
i get cut at 17 and can guide

Birds18
July 27th, 2018, 05:47 PM
I wonder how tight he got cut? Hopefully it was Done loosely.

Bubba24
July 28th, 2018, 07:16 AM
Hi everybody sorry it took so long to reply. The operation went ok it hurt the most the first few days but it’s better now it still hurts and my head bothers me when I’m wearing undies but the doctor said that’s normal because the head used to be covered and now it’s exposed so it will take some time to get used too. Not much else to say thanks for all the advice that was given

Did they use stitches or glue to close things up

sidric8
August 12th, 2018, 08:48 PM
Did it work out OK? Any updates?

kro814
August 12th, 2018, 09:00 PM
How is he doing? It would be good to find out how the surgery went.

Stevan LT
August 19th, 2018, 08:01 AM
My GP noticed my foreskin is still tight when hard but she say they are other means to stretch it b4 thinking about circumcision. Hopefully !

joshprvell
February 23rd, 2021, 12:00 PM
Interesting information