Watch it.

[Merk]

Watch this video
https://youtu.be/hsAeAMPTD0A
I needn't say more.

Now watch this one. https://youtu.be/nZefA1swORE
Need I say more?

Double posts merged. Please edit your first post next time. ~Jinglebottom

[Leprous]

So essentially the point he's trying to make is that social media's censorship of reports on shool shootings are just as bad as restrictions on how easy it is to obtain a gun? Concidering he just made the first video to bait and the second one in an attempt to make a counter argument to everyone saying that it's bad to censor news reports. I don't see how any of his points actually justify no restrictions being made on guns.

[Merk]

Social media's censorship? That's not what it's about... The media, in this context, we are referring to 'main stream' media, ie CNN MSNBC VOX etc... Not social media. And like the tweets he quoted, you didn't watch/understand the first video right either. In the first video, he said it was only an example, and he doesn't want to infringe on first A rights on the media. The second video he quoted tweets from people who are main anchors on CNN VOX etc... who didn't watch the whole 4 minutes of the first video. Did you watch the whole 4 minutes?

I'm case you didn't know, there are already restrictions on 'guns'

In the US, the media has just as much right to say what they want, as the people do the right to have as many of whatever guns they please. These are the first and second amendments to the Constitution.

If all the Republicans started to push for laws to not only silence Anti gun, pro gay, pro abortion, 'must glorify the killer' views, but also in full, repeal the 1st amendment so Democrats have no voice, I bet that would anger you. We would be taking your first amendment rights.

Now you guys go not only saying, but pushing actual bills of law to not allow me to have my guns, but in full also repeal the second amendment, that does make me angry, your taking away my second amendment rights.

I can't stress this enough.
It is the people's right to keep and bear arms, just as much as it is the people's right to free speech.

[ShineintheDark]

I don't quite understand this logic being applied here that absolutely everything in the Constitution should be held to the same regard and value. That simply is not true, there are some rights which are more defensible than others. Free speech is the basis of a fully functioning democracy, guns are not. The right of a citizen to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures is universal, the right to bear arms can be reasonably limited. The right to due process is key to a fair and equal legal system, the right to bear arms is not. Whether it is right to a fair trial, right to be free of cruel and unusual punishment, the seperation of powers, whatever, there are rights promised in the Constitution that are simply more important to a functioning democracy than the right to bear arms. Does that mean that your right to bear arms has no meaning and should be removed? Not necessarily. But the idea that it can be logically held in the same regard as the rest of the Bill of Rights alone doesn't make much sense. It is very much the outlier of the Bill of Rights.

[mattsmith48]

You got to give it to him, hes kinda right about the media in the 2nd video.

Also there is a show on CNN call Reliable Sources? It would be like if Bill Cosby had a show on Fox News called Consensual Sex.

Does that mean that your right to bear arms has no meaning and should be removed?

Yes it does, free speech, right to due process, of a citizen to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures, ban on cruel and unusual punishment and separation of church and state are essential to a working democracy, the ''right'' to bear arms is not.

[Hermes]

I think the guy in the video is being over-generous to the mainstream media in suggesting they were simply too lazy to watch to the end of the video, even though that is in itself would indeed be a sad indictment of them.

It is much more likely that they simply chose which piece to show and comment on.

But none of that makes him right in suggesting people should necessarily have the same views on the two amendments and should be equally outraged by an attack on either of them,

The point about free speech is that it is the mechanism by which you have the debate about what kind of society you want to have and therefore what rights and responsibilities people who live in that society should have and that does make it special over the other rights.