Unpopular Opinions

[ava.anonymous]

I feel like we need a place within this thread where we can express unpopular or controversial opinions without being judged so here is mine:
Teenagers complain about the school subject syllabuses and how hard it is despite it being much easier nowadays especially with the resources we have that our older relatives didn't!

[Ilove318]

In my opinion having these resources means more is expected of us, and that is unfair.

[ska8er]

I think as a generation we
r more educated than past
generations so I agree more
is expected of us. That said
I don't c any restrictions here
on unpopular or controversial
topics within reason. What ideas
or threads do u want to post?

[lliam]

I don't think we are much better educated than the generations before us. If I consider that basic skills / knowledge such as spelling, light to slightly more complex mental arithmetics, quick to implement theoretical knowledge in practical concepts .... so there it seems to be more of a difference, which employers like to complain it as a lack of fundamental skills.

Personally, I notice this often reading articles of renowned magazines, in novels and, more often, in non-fiction books in the form of misspellings etc which nobody has corrected, because final proofreading has probably gone out of fashion.

More knowledge doesn't necessarily mean that you are more educated then your anchestors.

I would like to put it this way, the most well-known Greek philosophers, or much better, irrespective of the culture and era in which they lived, cosmopolitans, universal scholars and lateral thinkers are the true representatives of very good education.

Even their level of knowledge was much lower than that of today's scholars, but they knew how to use their heads.

It seems nowadays just competences are taught. That's, of course, is the nature of thing, because a steadily expotential growing knowledge level, above all requires in general the competence to know, where one can research specific knowledge.


But due to the large amount of knowledge, activities, there's hardly enough time across the full range of the allday school activities to teach how to implement theorical and factual knowledge independently into practically usable understanding for themselves and others.


I refer in particular to public school systems worldwide, which have apparently been degraded from educational institutions to pure fact-finding facilities.

It's seems already kinda fatal to me, that creative learning, promotion of individual personality education, etc. are political meant to be reserved for schools like mine, where students still have the fun of learning and are forced to use of their own critical minds, rather got stuffed just with facts, facts, facts.

And where parents pay huge amounts of fees every year, so that their kids have really fun of learning who mature into independent, critically thinking and well educated individuals.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Cereal is a soup.

[NewLeafsFan]

I feel like we need a place within this thread where we can express unpopular or controversial opinions without being judged so here is mine:
Teenagers complain about the school subject syllabuses and how hard it is despite it being much easier nowadays especially with the resources we have that our older relatives didn't!

I strongly disagree, but instead of explaining why, I'll answer your original question.

I think that Hitler escaped Berlin and lived for many years after World War II.

[ShineintheDark]

The world and history is a lot more complicated then we give it credit for and most people are blind to the propaganda they are still subject to.

[Phosphene]

We're nearing the end of March, aka Women's History Month. I don't see the point in designating a whole month just for women. That doesn't represent equality - which all races and genders have by law in America. It implies that women are inferior by giving them special attention, when instead everyone's success should be equally acknowledged. Would people be as eager to support a men's history month? I think not. Yes, women haven't always been able to exercise all the rights that men could, but they are not oppressed and should not be put on a higher pedestal.

[lliam]

Oh, there was women themed based month? Did not know that.

But to post it unpopular, I recommand you to see it from the men's pov:


Women get this attention so they can feel important and respected.


Then they are distracted, dealing with themselves and aren't constantly interfering in the more important issues men are dealing with in general all day.



Or even in a much more unpopular form said:


It's all about getting women into bed or for cooking at the stove.

[Phosphene]

Oh, there was women themed based month? Did not know that.

Yes. And almost over with, thank god.

But to post it unpopular, I recommand you to see it from the men's pov:


Women get this attention so they can feel important and respected.


Then they are distracted, dealing with themselves and aren't constantly interfering in the more important issues men are dealing with in general all day.

Not all men hold that opinion...

Or even in a much more unpopular form said:


It's all about getting women into bed or for cooking at the stove.

You can put me at the stove if you like burnt food.

[PlasmaHam]

I've expressed plenty of unpopular opinions on here before. I'm not going to rehash most of those, if you want my opinion on climate change or race-relations then you can find those elsewhere. Instead I'm going to focus on some I haven't expressed as clearly:


Throwing more money at schools and teachers isn't going to solve our public schooling problem. Major reforms in both the way they are managed and the way kids are taught is the answer.


Mental disorders, especially ADHD, are vastly over-diagnosed and over-medicated in children and teens, due to multiple factors like internet diagnosis and parents wanting an easy way to deal with a naturally rumbustious child.


I have very little sympathy with violent protesters. Police should be able to step in and immediately shut-down protests once they turn violent with force if necessary, instead of the pussy-footing around you see in most cases.


I see nothing wrong from a moral point of view in the consumption of dogs, cats, or horses. Western society holds reverence to these animals, but they are nevertheless still animals. I may not personally partake, but I don't look down on people or cultures that do eat those animals.


You can have a happy life without graduating college, and not everyone should attend college. We need to stop looking down on those with blue-collar jobs, and stop insisting that college must be the next step for everyone after high-school.



And finally, the most controversial of all...

Star Trek is better than Star Wars :P

[Dalcourt]

I guess I have tons of unpopular opinions...depending on who I am talking too.
So here are some of mine.

We all depend too much on cars...we should learn to use then less and just drive around when necessary and not for fun or at random, all my friends hate me for that opinion.

I am completely against homeschooling. I even feel it's harmful for kids and therefore should be outlawed.

Nobody needs a gun in their house to defend their family. We are not in the Wild West or in a war zone.

White privilege is a thing and those who deny it just don't understand it.

People don't think for themselves they just rely on the internet too much.

[Ilove318]

A possible unpopular opinion is: Antidepressants only target the symptoms, not the underlying issue.

Agree or disagree?

[SilverSM]

Oh boy well here's mine

I honestly do not understand Transgender people, even as a member of the LGBT community, I will respect them as people and such and on their characters but I will not be understanding of their identification of being transgender

On the subject, I feel like that us Gen Z kids act way too stereo typically gay. I see kids in my school's GSA either dying their hairs a whole array of colors, bleaching it, wearing a lot of mascara. That the gay guys act way too femininely that I'm embarrased by association.

Oh and that I like pineapple on pizza and I tend to pour milk before my cereal :D

[Tim the Enchanter]

Oh and that I like pineapple on pizza and I tend to pour milk before my cereal :D

Wait what? That's blasphemy!

[Jinglebottom]

I think cookie-cutter housing looks nice.

[JustMyHumbleOpinion]

I have a few so here we go:

I think religion is just a fairy story to help people deal with the truth that we will one day die and rot in the ground.

I think feminism should work both ways- i feel like there is many things Women have over Men that feminists don't mention.
For example Women usually get smaller sentences than Men in court.

[Snowfox]

Few things. Quite many in fact.
I love guns. I love rifles especially 7,62*39 in semiautomatic configuration. I also love bolt action 30-06 while I know that 308 is more accurate.
Ï love smell of gunpowder. I makes me feel like man.
I dislike sweet tastes I cant stand most things that are sweet. Sour tastes and salty are fine.
I dislike cities I love country side small communities.
I am way too fond of alcohol.

My most controversial opinion is I think every man should have some sort of firearm preferably rifle but shotgun will do as well. Just in case....

[Tim the Enchanter]

My most controversial opinion is I think every man should have some sort of firearm preferably rifle but shotgun will do as well. Just in case....

God Bless America haha.

[lliam]

Who feels the need be armed to be able feeling to be a man, proves he never get it, what's a real man like.

[Snowfox]

Who feels the need be armed to be able feeling to be a man, proves he never get it, what's a real man like.

Seems to me that there are lots of people including you who dont get cultural differences.
Where I live one of the big things is intti/plikten aka mandatory military service. Also having hunters licence is big thing at least in part of country where I live.
just to mention few things that you have to have to be considered a man.
-Driving licence
-Hunters licence
-Firearms licence
-Military service done
-short hairs

[Sailor Mars]

Who feels the need be armed to be able feeling to be a man, proves he never get it, what's a real man like.

“Kicked you out to teach you what a man is, but I don’t think they’ll ever know what that means. They’ll put a gun into your hand and call you weak until your violent but don’t believe it, they’re hateful cuz they’re empty.”
One of my favourite lines from The Wonder Years :wub:

Also, I like four cheese pizza, and vegan food, and I cannot stand those Mamita’s coconut cream bars... seriously. So many people like them but I don’t see the appeal at all. Also, salt and vinegar is the best chip flavor but I hate it on salads.

[Stronk Serb]

Decadent and overly hedonistic behavior and ideas (mostly modern left) should be stamped out in favor of a morally conscious, unified and orderly society.

Some cultures are primitive and uncivilized. The only way I will see them as equal to Europeans is if they become civilized.

I believe in... Übermenschen, Menschen and Untermenschen. Just to clarify, I do not classify them based on ethnicity, but based on behaviour, some life choices, manners, personality, both long-term and short-term goals. Still, I can spot them relatively easily, at least the Serbian ones.

[imanopenbook]

I dont know if things are easier now then before at all. I think things change and we are expected to know more on our own than before.

All the extra online resources means a lot more is expected for research and references than just the school or public library.

Email has added time to the average work day too so if that's the case then it's probably added time to do home work and school stuff.

[mattsmith48]

I started a thread on this but I'll say it again, drug prohibition fucking doesn't work.

Also all religions are all equally bad and the cause of most deaths, wars and hatred that happen through human history and that is currently happening.

Minimum wage is only a temporary solution, Universal basic income and unions are the way to go.

Don't tip, it is not the customers job to directly pay the employee's salary, I pay for the food I just ate, and you use part of that money to pay your employees.

Christmas is about excessive drinking and eating and celebrating the arrival of winter, leave religion out of it.

Finally in the I don't know why this is an unpopular opinion category:

Fossil fuel is bad for you and should be banned in the next 10 years.

Everyone should have the same opportunity for education and it shouldn't cost a thing to anyone.

Everyone should have enough money to meet their basic needs.

Every vote should count and government should be representative of what the people voted for, and receiving 33% of the vote shouldn't give you the power and the right to run the country like a dictator for 4 years.


Mental disorders, especially ADHD, are vastly over-diagnosed and over-medicated in children and teens, due to multiple factors like internet diagnosis and parents wanting an easy way to deal with a naturally rumbustious child.


Yes finally something we can agree on.

Who feels the need be armed to be able feeling to be a man, proves he never get it, what's a real man like.

Feeling the need to be armed is like the need to have big and expansive things like a car it is often a sign of insecurity and overcompensating often for having a small dick.

[PlasmaHam]

Every vote should count and government should be representative of what the people voted for, and receiving 33% of the vote shouldn't give you the power and the right to run the country like a dictator for 4 years.

*cough* Trudeau *cough*

[Dalcourt]

Seems to me that there are lots of people including you who dont get cultural differences.
Where I live one of the big things is intti/plikten aka mandatory military service. Also having hunters licence is big thing at least in part of country where I live.
just to mention few things that you have to have to be considered a man.
-Driving licence
-Hunters licence
-Firearms licence
-Military service done
-short hairs

It's funny all the things you describe here that you have to be to be a man perfectly describe my Cajun Grandma.
So maybe another unpopular opinion would be people should get over gender roles and accept equality of genders?

[lliam]

Seems to me that there are lots of people including you who dont get cultural differences.


I don't see a big difference to other cultures. This gendered atavism can be found in all cultures.

Reading your post just inspired me to ponder my very personal point of view regarding guns and manhood.

Personally, I'm a man because I have a penis. More isn't imo needed for being a man.

Whether others see me as a man or not, is accordingly completely unimportant. Theirs opinion doesn't really matter.

However, if my GF wouldn't see me as a man, that would be a problem. :D

[Snowfox]

I don't see a big difference to other cultures. This gendered atavism can be found in all cultures.

Reading your post just inspired me to ponder my very personal point of view regarding guns and manhood.

Personally, I'm a man because I have a penis. More isn't imo needed for being a man.

Whether others see me as a man or not, is accordingly completely unimportant. Theirs opinion doesn't really matter.

However, if my GF wouldn't see me as a man, that would be a problem. :D

In some parts of world like germany or uk being man means you drink beer and watch football and fight over it on streets.
Some parts of world it means that you dress fancy (Italy).
And Dalcourt whats so bad in gender roles generally. When ever I see "man" who is more like girly girl it just makes me sad.
Just as well I think its sad to see boys or girls who sell their own body for drugs cause they see meth as cool

[NewLeafsFan]

A possible unpopular opinion is: Antidepressants only target the symptoms, not the underlying issue.

Agree or disagree?

I disagree. Sometimes therapy is appropriate or a mix of both is needed. If someone is dealing with their issues but is suicidal and unlikely to make it to there next session, I think antidepressants are a useful tool. But I'm sure that many people do take them as a substitute for therapy or other ways of dealing with trauma. Really interesting argument.

Oh boy well here's mine

I honestly do not understand Transgender people, even as a member of the LGBT community, I will respect them as people and such and on their characters but I will not be understanding of their identification of being transgender

On the subject, I feel like that us Gen Z kids act way too stereo typically gay. I see kids in my school's GSA either dying their hairs a whole array of colors, bleaching it, wearing a lot of mascara. That the gay guys act way too femininely that I'm embarrased by association.

Oh and that I like pineapple on pizza and I tend to pour milk before my cereal :D

I believe that people should be able to express themselves how they wish. I look at it as maybe gay thoughts and actions are or aren't normal, but I can't prove that they aren't so I give them the benefit of the doubt. I think of transgenders and transsexuals under that same microscope. I support the LGTBQ2 community. Who am I to judge?

P.S. I also like pineapple on pizza. And on pitas from pita pit.

Who feels the need be armed to be able feeling to be a man, proves he never get it, what's a real man like.

I agree. Having guns is dangerous. Becoming a man without a gun is not.

[Jinglebottom]

On the subject, I feel like that us Gen Z kids act way too stereo typically gay. I see kids in my school's GSA either dying their hairs a whole array of colors, bleaching it, wearing a lot of mascara. That the gay guys act way too femininely that I'm embarrased by association.
The super feminine gay guys also peeve me, and I'm gay. It just gets downright obnoxious at times. I'm not even masculine at all, but I behave quite neutrally. If I came out to my parents, they would probably think I'm gonna start wearing makeup and dye my hair purple, even though it literally only means I like guys rather than girls, but we all get lumped with those guys.

[lliam]

In some parts of world like germany or uk being man means you drink beer and watch football and fight over it on streets.
Some parts of world it means that you dress fancy (Italy).


You know what, all these prejudices is something we shouldn't even think about to take it seriously.

I see myself first and foremost as a self-sufficient individual who, thankfully wasn't really indoctrinated by social-ethnic and cultural stuff, so that's why I could develop my own view of the world.

I don't drink alcohol, I rarely watch football and, if possible, I avoid any fight, as the reasons for it are mostly rather sub-social of origin. Nevertheless, I never had any difficulties in being accepted by friends and fellow human beings.

So I think it's rather more who you are than the fact that you fulfill any expectations that make you a "man" ... even in the eyes of others.

But if you really want to see more in manhood than just naming your innate genitalia as a reason, then I would say:

Being a man means just stand your ground against all odds, or such. And if you still have the ability to openly admit your mistakes and learn from them, then you are Superman. Hello. Clark Kent!




And Dalcourt whats so bad in gender roles generally. When ever I see "man" who is more like girly girl it just makes me sad.

Just as well I think its sad to see boys or girls who sell their own body for drugs cause they see meth as cool


I don't know why that makes you angry, sad or whatever. Each individual also has abilities which are assigned to the other gender as typical.

There is no question whether a man has female characteristics, because he has them. It's simply a question of how distinct these characteristics are.

One guy is obviously more feminin in his actions and thoughts, but looking at the next dude we'll seemingly missing any female charateristics ... until they reveale themself in certain situations.

In between, there are so many variable levels that it is actually surprising that we haven't considered these gender-specific characteristics to be gender-neutral long ago ... or simply as human characteristics.

[Ilove318]

Oh and that I like pineapple on pizza and I tend to pour milk before my cereal :D

So me. :)

[Ilove318]

I disagree. Sometimes therapy is appropriate or a mix of both is needed. If someone is dealing with their issues but is suicidal and unlikely to make it to there next session, I think antidepressants are a useful tool. But I'm sure that many people do take them as a substitute for therapy or other ways of dealing with trauma. Really interesting argument.


I take antidepressants, but me they don't help. But that's just me I guess.

[yeehaw]

We're nearing the end of March, aka Women's History Month. I don't see the point in designating a whole month just for women. That doesn't represent equality - which all races and genders have by law in America. It implies that women are inferior by giving them special attention, when instead everyone's success should be equally acknowledged. Would people be as eager to support a men's history month? I think not. Yes, women haven't always been able to exercise all the rights that men could, but they are not oppressed and should not be put on a higher pedestal.

I remember a while back when there was a similar thread to this, and I wrote about how I greatly disliked the fact that we put any type of ‘abnormal’ group on the pedestal: for instance, people with mental health issues, people with disabilities. I’m all for helping people who need to be helped, but by putting them in a different box and labelling them as “superheroes” does no benefit, and feels like they are further excluded from ‘the norm’. Reading your post about women reminded me of said post.

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Following on from the post about women, it annoys me how we are extremely eager to report issues victimising women including domestic violence (even though it is still under-reported) but we always seem to push men’s issues such as suffering from mental illness or domestic violence under the rug... I say that it is unpopular because people always prefer battling women’s issues because they’re ‘oppressed’.

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American people don’t need a 2nd amendment. Places with extremely strict gun laws like Japan are doing just fine without guns, but some people can’t cope with compromising one small essence of “safety” which could help reduce suicides, accidental deaths, and school shootings.

[PlasmaHam]

I got another, in response to this whole Parkland kids/David Hogg debacle:
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If you want to make a teenager a public figure in politics, that is fine. However, you can't be falling back on "well, he's just a kid" whenever he makes a mistake or someone attacks him, especially if he himself is ferociously attacking others. That is just a shameful way to restrict the speech of others, and is quite hypocritical.

[Phosphene]

nebula I agree with you, except on your comment pertaining to guns. Seeing as the majority of shootings are performed with illegally-obtained weapons, I don't think stricter laws will do much to help. Also on the preventing suicide point you brought up: despite 2/3 of gun deaths being suicides, if individuals have their minds set on suicide, taking away just one of many methods in which they could carry it out won't stop them.

I got another, in response to this whole Parkland kids/David Hogg debacle:
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If you want to make a teenager a public figure in politics, that is fine. However, you can't be falling back on "well, he's just a kid" whenever he makes a mistake or someone attacks him, especially if he himself is ferociously attacking others. That is just a shameful way to restrict the speech of others, and is quite hypocritical.

*sound of hammer hitting nail*

Exactly my thoughts. The "if you don't agree with the kids, you're attacking the kids" accusation that gets thrown around is really petty and unprofessional, too.

[mattsmith48]

*cough* Trudeau *cough*

Not just him, the bigger problem with Trudeau on this issue is
1. he promise to change the system and didn't
2. The hypocrisy as he was one of the biggest critics of Harper for doing the exact same thing he's doing now.

When ever I see "man" who is more like girly girl it just makes me sad.
Just as well I think its sad to see boys or girls who sell their own body for drugs cause they see meth as cool

You are comparing a guy being a little feminine to selling your body for meth, just think about how that sounds for a second.

I disagree. Sometimes therapy is appropriate or a mix of both is needed. If someone is dealing with their issues but is suicidal and unlikely to make it to there next session, I think antidepressants are a useful tool. But I'm sure that many people do take them as a substitute for therapy or other ways of dealing with trauma. Really interesting argument.
I take antidepressants, but me they don't help. But that's just me I guess.

Antidepressants are like painkillers and antibiotics, they are overprescribe and in a lot of cases could be substituted for another treatment that is less harmful to your body.

[Kiki03]

I dont like or use social media.

[Spooky_Eli]

i feel that one should live there life according to there own morality provided thay do not have a ligitamite mental disorder.
furthermore i belive that "obscenity" & bad language" are social constructs that no one should adhere to.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Black liquorice is the best!

[MiniYoda]

Black liquorice is the best!

I'm trying very hard not to judge xD

[MiniYoda]

The boy scouts should not accept girls

[Stronk Serb]

Slavery to the state as criminal punishment is totally okay.
Prostitution should be legal simply for the fact that STD spread rates would be far lower.
Most rights are an illusion. A few of them need to be respected, others can go down the drain.
The death penalty is totally okay.

[Tim the Enchanter]

The boy scouts should not accept girls

Boy scouts is the new girl scouts, partner! Let's flood the cookie market Haha

[mattsmith48]

Slavery to the state as criminal punishment is totally okay.
Prostitution should be legal simply for the fact that STD spread rates would be far lower.
Most rights are an illusion. A few of them need to be respected, others can go down the drain.
The death penalty is totally okay.

I agree the the prostitution one maybe decriminalization is a better way to go, but yeah I agree

[Stronk Serb]

I agree the the prostitution one maybe decriminalization is a better way to go, but yeah I agree

You agree with all or only prostitution?

[mattsmith48]

You agree with all or only prostitution?

Thats what I said

[PlasmaHam]

Teachers are not vastly underpaid and under benefited compared to other college graduates.

[Stronk Serb]

Military service should be reinstated
Some cultures are more primitive than others
Too high taxes are state sponsored robbery
Privatize marriage
I prefer order and functionality of a society to individual freedom and decadence

[InternetTeen]

Death Penalty should return. It'll cost a ton to keep psychopaths who feel no remorse in Prison for 50-60 years. Psycopaths and people who've committed mass shootings don't deserve to live.

[mattsmith48]

Privatize marriage


How would that work?

Death Penalty should return. It'll cost a ton to keep psychopaths who feel no remorse in Prison for 50-60 years. Psycopaths and people who've committed mass shootings don't deserve to live.

Its actually cheaper to keep them in prison then to kill them.

[Stronk Serb]

How would that work?

Simple, you would go to a private agency to get married, for example a church, for example an agency set up for that. That should solve the hassle of getting married for both gays and religious guys. Essentially, the government should give those agencies the ability to issue and dissolve marriage contracts, also each agency will be able to put out their own criteria for marriage. While churches will not do marriage of homosexuals, secular agencies will marry homosexuals.

[InternetTeen]

How would that work?



Its actually cheaper to keep them in prison then to kill them.

Really. Killing them only involves an axe and a block if you're doing the old methods.

[mattsmith48]

Simple, you would go to a private agency to get married, for example a church, for example an agency set up for that. That should solve the hassle of getting married for both gays and religious guys. Essentially, the government should give those agencies the ability to issue and dissolve marriage contracts, also each agency will be able to put out their own criteria for marriage. While churches will not do marriage of homosexuals, secular agencies will marry homosexuals.

So basically you are allowing people to openly discriminate against gays denying them their right, while eliminating the guarantee that someone else will provide it to them.

Really. Killing them only involves an axe and a block if you're doing the old methods.

How is that different from what ISIS is doing?

[Stronk Serb]

So basically you are allowing people to openly discriminate against gays denying them their right, while eliminating the guarantee that someone else will provide it to them.

Someone would. Heck, even some gays can open a marriage agency to get married. If there is a meed for something, it will be provided. My idea is far less discriminatory than the current system.

[Dev.]

If you like to complain about a lion getting killed half way across the world but don't think about the millions of cows that went into your burger you're a hypocrite.

The vast majority of right leaning politics resides in very surface level thinking, reactionary behavior, religious dogmatism, and straight up bias.

Despite what most people think Millennials are one of most hard working generations ever.

Donald Trump is just not a very good president.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Donald Trump is just not a very good president.

Wrong.

[mattsmith48]

Donald Trump is just not a very good president.

Not a very good president? That's a little generous don't you think

[Dev.]

Not a very good president? That's a little generous don't you think

Yeah I guess so.

[Tim the Enchanter]

Not a very good president? That's a little generous don't you think

Yeah I guess so.

Try the greatest President since George Washington. He made America great again, now it's his turn to Keep America Great! #Trump2020 #MAGA

[Dev.]

Try the greatest President since George Washington. He made America great again, now it's his turn to Keep America Great! #Trump2020 #MAGA

That too.

[mattsmith48]

Try the greatest President since George Washington. He made America great again, now it's his turn to Keep America Great! #Trump2020 #MAGA

That's kinda insulting to Lincoln, or JFK, or Obama, or Bush (That last one is a joke btw)

[Tim the Enchanter]

That's kinda insulting to Lincoln, or JFK, or Obama, or Bush (That last one is a joke btw)

Great one man :yeah:

[bonbon]

"If nothing changes the way you want, it isn't because of politicians. It is because of you."

[Stronk Serb]

If you like to complain about a lion getting killed half way across the world but don't think about the millions of cows that went into your burger you're a hypocrite.

The vast majority of right leaning politics resides in very surface level thinking, reactionary behavior, religious dogmatism, and straight up bias.

Despite what most people think Millennials are one of most hard working generations ever.

Donald Trump is just not a very good president.

Well, millenials here compared to their grandparents are less hard-working, but I guess it is because of necessity and poverty that they turned to work at ages 12 etc. I guess that is not the case for the US.

I mostly agree with all you said except the second statement. I think that both the left and the right are dogmatic shitheads, the left only uses political, while the right mostly religious dogmas.

[ska8er]

Few things. Quite many in fact.
I love guns. I love rifles especially 7,62*39 in semiautomatic configuration. I also love bolt action 30-06 while I know that 308 is more accurate.
Ï love smell of gunpowder. I makes me feel like man.
I dislike sweet tastes I cant stand most things that are sweet. Sour tastes and salty are fine.
I dislike cities I love country side small communities.
I am way too fond of alcohol.

My most controversial opinion is I think every man should have some sort of firearm preferably rifle but shotgun will do as well. Just in case....

U have much crime in Finland? Just wonderin.

[Moriya]

I don't hate white people, and that doesn't make me any less Black than the next person.

[Jinglebottom]

Countries should not tolerate illegal immigrants of any kind.
Not every criminal deserves to be rehabilitated.
Some religions are better than others, and some religions cannot coexist together.
Some cultures are better than others, and some cultures cannot coexist together. Countries are not a social experiment.
Words have about as much power as you give them.
Being proud of your country is not always a bad thing.
Sometimes, in order to do the right thing, you must offend some people.
Getting caught drunk driving deserves a far harsher penalty. Drunkards are a danger to those around them.
Littering also deserves a harsher penalty, I don't care if everybody does it.

[Snowfox]

U have much crime in Finland? Just wonderin.

No we actually dont have. what made u wonder that.

[ska8er]

No we actually dont have. what made u wonder that.

Seems like ur well armed.

[abcdeqwe]

Empire Strikes Back was not the best Stars Wars movie.

[Snowfox]

Seems like ur well armed.

Oh that....
Bwing well armed does not mean "prone to violence". It means people generally speaking respect each other and even in cases they dont juridical system is not harsh compared to rest of world.

Criminals here in prison get treated like humanbeings since we know that in vast majority of cases they will be released some day. Its in our best interest to getthem to shape to work or live in modern society

[PlasmaHam]

Countries should not tolerate illegal immigrants of any kind.
Not every criminal deserves to be rehabilitated.
Some religions are better than others, and some religions cannot coexist together.
Some cultures are better than others, and some cultures cannot coexist together. Countries are not a social experiment.
Words have about as much power as you give them.
Being proud of your country is not always a bad thing.
Sometimes, in order to do the right thing, you must offend some people.
Getting caught drunk driving deserves a far harsher penalty. Drunkards are a danger to those around them.
Littering also deserves a harsher penalty, I don't care if everybody does it.
I agree with just about every single one of those. I never really thought about harsher penalties for drunk driving and public intoxication, but it does make sense. I know here you hear of drunk college kids over-running beaches during Spring break, with cities not being able to really do anything about it. Having people mentally impaired by drugs or alcohol causing mayhem should be met with more than a shrug.

[ska8er]

Oh that....
Bwing well armed does not mean "prone to violence". It means people generally speaking respect each other and even in cases they dont juridical system is not harsh compared to rest of world.

Criminals here in prison get treated like humanbeings since we know that in vast majority of cases they will be released some day. Its in our best interest to getthem to shape to work or live in modern society

What crimes do u consider the judicial system
not too harsh with? I'm sure in the case of
murderers many cannot b rehabilitated.

[hayley2003]

trump has made lying and dishonesty the new cool thing for people to do. If someone does something you don't like, it is now OK to make up lies about them.

its now OK to be dishonest about anything you want and blame others; its cool because trump does it.

its cool to be like trump, and i think that sucks.

[PlasmaHam]

Parents need to be held more accountable when their kids commit some violent action. Especially if they give their kid access to guns and the kid proceeds to kill a bunch of people. They can't simply say, "this is not my son" and then everyone treats them as entirely innocent bystanders.

Of course the reason why this doesn't happen is that a significant portion of the media like to insist there can only be a singular factor in such tragedies.


trump has made lying and dishonesty the new cool thing for people to do. If someone does something you don't like, it is now OK to make up lies about them.

its now OK to be dishonest about anything you want and blame others; its cool because trump does it.

its cool to be like trump, and i think that sucks.

That isn't exactly an unpopular opinion, especially on the left side of the aisle. That doesn't mean it is valid of course, just not unpopular.

[Snowfox]

What crimes do u consider the judicial system
not too harsh with? I'm sure in the case of
murderers many cannot b rehabilitated.

In fact many can be rehabilitated. Murder carries a reason. Like some reason why person did commit that crime. Most violent crime is connected to alcohol use or drug use.

Murder here carries minimum sentence of 12 years while there is no maximum sentence. Practically speaking murder usually goes with 16 years.
Generally speaking while this country is full of firearms crime rates involving firearms are very rare. Police carry arms always but they use them very rarely like when cop uses gun its immediately in news. Cops use guns less than 10 times a year on average.
BUt in USA it takes 6 months to become a cop as far as I know and in here it takes 4 years minimum in university.

[ska8er]

In fact many can be rehabilitated. Murder carries a reason. Like some reason why person did commit that crime. Most violent crime is connected to alcohol use or drug use.

Murder here carries minimum sentence of 12 years while there is no maximum sentence. Practically speaking murder usually goes with 16 years.
Generally speaking while this country is full of firearms crime rates involving firearms are very rare. Police carry arms always but they use them very rarely like when cop uses gun its immediately in news. Cops use guns less than 10 times a year on average.
BUt in USA it takes 6 months to become a cop as far as I know and in here it takes 4 years minimum in university.

Yeah alcohol and drug use r the results of
violent crime here also but for taking another
ones life 16 years is like a joke. Many murderers
here r on death roll even tho in a lot of States there
is no death penalty. A lot of times these prisoners
stay there almost forever which in a way is good so
they can think about what they have done every day
for the rest of their days. Many mass murders a lot
concerning school shootings r the result of mental
illness especially when the shooter kills himself. I'm
not going to go into the gun debate cause I think we
have a right to protect ourselves but not with semi
automatic rifles.

[abcdeqwe]

I am worthy of happiness!

[AussieNicholas]

Countries should not tolerate illegal immigrants of any kind.
Not every criminal deserves to be rehabilitated.
Some religions are better than others, and some religions cannot coexist together.
Some cultures are better than others, and some cultures cannot coexist together. Countries are not a social experiment.
Words have about as much power as you give them.
Being proud of your country is not always a bad thing.
Sometimes, in order to do the right thing, you must offend some people.
Getting caught drunk driving deserves a far harsher penalty. Drunkards are a danger to those around them.
Littering also deserves a harsher penalty, I don't care if everybody does it.

1. Agree fully. Regardless of their reasons for immigrating, we can't just bend our own laws when it suits us.
2. I agree somewhat, but I would personally phrase it as 'not every criminal can be rehabilitated'. I think rehabilitating criminals is a worthwhile effort but some are just beyond the point of reform.
3. I'm not religious, and I think most religions run the risk of breeding fanaticism.
4. I hate when people use "respect their culture" in order to excuse some of the awful things a country does. Cultures with deplorable and inhumane practices shouldn't get a free pass from condemnation just because it's their culture.
5. Aside from obvious threats which I think should be punished by law, and as hurtful some words and language can be to people, those feelings are something we should always try and rise above.
6. We hear this kind of stuff every year on Australia Day, especially from people who want the date changed, but being proud of your country is an endorsement of it's past atrocities.
7. Not much to say except yes.
8. Sentence shouldn't be less than five years, at least ten if you get someone killed.
9. I see so many kids littering around my school and it's infuriating. So much environmental damage is caused because people are too lazy to look for a rubbish bin.

[Bakingboy03]

I totally agree that there is more expectation for us with new technology and educational advancement

[DriveAlive]

I do not understand the argument behind being able to decide you gender.

I am a Second Amendment absolutist.

Cruelty to animals should be punished with 25-life.

Immigration from certain parts of the world is not a good thing.

There are too many people in the world.

Islam is a religion that promotes hate against women.

[Tim the Enchanter]

I do not understand the argument behind being able to decide you gender.

I am a Second Amendment absolutist.

Cruelty to animals should be punished with 25-life.

Immigration from certain parts of the world is not a good thing.

There are too many people in the world.

Islam is a religion that promotes hate against women.

1. Why dont we accept there is one gender?
2. Lets use our guns to kill people who want to take them away
3. Kill all animal abusers, off with their heads
4. Halt all immigration
5. Lets just kill everyone who isnt selected to live in our new world order
6. Lets just ban islam

I totally agree that there is more expectation for us with new technology and educational advancement

Canada is part of the US.

[HeyCameron]

I guess one of mine is that I think school is inherently designed to work better for girls than boys. I think a lot of times diagnoses of ADD and ADHD are just people trying to suppress the way that boys naturally are. They often don't learn well being asked to sit still and stay quiet for hours on end. It doesn't always mean they have a mental problem and need medication.

And that segues into my next opinion, that we, as Americans, take too many medications. Some are necessary, and I'm not saying no one should take pills, I just think sometimes it's a bit much. St. Vincent has a great song on this subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sfrCVYZV7k

lol

[inactiveguy678]

One thing I don’t get it why do people assume that every culture that is represented by another member of another race culture is cultural appropriation? Case in point if a foreign person (especially a white individual we were a colonised country) wears our formal wear national costume we would be so proud and grateful (visiting American and UK leaders are usually the ones who are encouraged to do this). People carry butterfly knives all the time and we are kinda proud it came from us. When people attribute akimbo stick or sword fighting as our martial art we are proud that they even have our nationality in the name they are calling it. Yes we may have an issue with mostly white individuals taking advantage of us but if they got some cultural things from us we are actually proud and flattered.

[ShineintheDark]

One thing I don’t get it why do people assume that every culture that is represented by another member of another race culture is cultural appropriation? Case in point if a foreign person (especially a white individual we were a colonised country) wears our formal wear national costume we would be so proud and grateful (visiting American and UK leaders are usually the ones who are encouraged to do this). People carry butterfly knives all the time and we are kinda proud it came from us. When people attribute akimbo stick or sword fighting as our martial art we are proud that they even have our nationality in the name they are calling it. Yes we may have an issue with mostly white individuals taking advantage of us but if they got some cultural things from us we are actually proud and flattered.
I only really get uncomfortable when it's something important to the culture. For example, the headdresses of Native Americans or sticking Hindu gods on T shirts or attempting to emulate Polynesian tribal tattoos because that goes beyond appreciation and is basically just using what one group of people find sacred and deeply ingrained in their culture as a fashion statement. When it comes down to traditional dress or henna tattoos etc it's not as important to cultures and can be justified under the banner of appreciating a different culture.You don't necessarily have to be a professor in the history of a culture to appreciate it, just respect it.

[inactiveguy678]

But to be honest this is a tricky thing as well. The most recent example of which I don’t agree with is how the film Isle of Dogs was deemed to appropriate culture. And most of the people who were saying it were not Asian at all except for one Asian American writer who i believe wasn’t even Japanese. the main criticism from that film was that it either why did it have to be set in Japan in the first place or why did they have to use cultural stereotypes I find this stupid because the production design was pretty well done and the use of those element were very flattering to the whole film itself. In fact isn’t most of Japanese culture about openness. If the reverse was done foot was on the foot then isn’t their use of school uniform culture (Sailor Fuoko those big leather backpacks cultural appropriation) as well? Sure none of these examples may be deemed important because they are non religious and secular but where do we draw the line. Culture does not exist in a vacuum else we wouldn’t have paper, pasta or gunpowder.

[mattsmith48]

Cruelty to animals should be punished with 25-life.

What does that include?

There are too many people in the world.

That's not an opinion that's a fact

Islam is a religion that promotes hate against women.

So do all religions.

1. Why dont we accept there is one gender?
2. Lets use our guns to kill people who want to take them away
3. Kill all animal abusers, off with their heads
4. Halt all immigration
5. Lets just kill everyone who isnt selected to live in our new world order
6. Lets just ban islam

Thats kinda cruel

[Tim the Enchanter]

Thats kinda cruel

Yah I was being sarcastic.

[trackinglife]

The Dark Knight was a good movie but it is overrated by most people.....

[DriveAlive]

What does that include?



That's not an opinion that's a fact



So do all religions.



Thats kinda cruel

Cruelty to animals would be inflicting unnecessary harm onto an animal any malicious or unusual way.

I guess a more unpopular way of saying that there are too many people in the world is to say that we should do something to decrease the amount of people in the world.

Islam in particular is currently subjugating women far more than any other religion.

[wheredidyousleeplast]

The Dark Knight was a good movie but it is overrated by most people.....

Agreed. It's still a great movie, but I thought both Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises were better than it. Sometimes I feel as though the only reason people rate it so highly is because Heath Ledger died.

[wheredidyousleeplast]

Music nowadays is just as good as the music that was released 50 years ago. The people who complain that "waaaaa, music isn't as good as it used to be. What happened to rock music" obviously aren't looking hard enough/are willfully ignoring all of the great bands that are emerging today just so they can have a cry about nothing.

[trackinglife]

Agreed. It's still a great movie, but I thought both Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises were better than it. Sometimes I feel as though the only reason people rate it so highly is because Heath Ledger died.

Agreed

[PlasmaHam]

Peace at all costs is a fool-hardy philosophy.

The UN cares far more about satisfying the Muslim nations' wants than actual justice when it comes to Israel.

Mutually-assured destruction is a better deterrent to nuclear war than denuclearization.


That's not an opinion that's a fact.

Not really. Factually, the Earth is more than capable of supporting such a population. If you are saying that you believe the current human population needs to be decreased, that is your opinion, not a fact. Same thing with your post about all religions promoting hatred against women, that's an opinion, not fact.

[HeyCameron]

Music nowadays is just as good as the music that was released 50 years ago. The people who complain that "waaaaa, music isn't as good as it used to be. What happened to rock music" obviously aren't looking hard enough/are willfully ignoring all of the great bands that are emerging today just so they can have a cry about nothing.

They're also ignoring all the crappy, corny music that was popular 50 years ago or so. There was a lot of bad stuff in the 50s, 60s and 70s. It's not like everything back then was amazing.

[mattsmith48]

Cruelty to animals would be inflicting unnecessary harm onto an animal any malicious or unusual way.

Does that include the way animals are treated in slaughterhouses

I guess a more unpopular way of saying that there are too many people in the world is to say that we should do something to decrease the amount of people in the world.

Better

Islam in particular is currently subjugating women far more than any other religion.

Currently, in some parts of the world yes, but we shouldn't forget that all religion promote hate and the subjugating of women.


The UN cares far more about satisfying the Muslim nations' wants than actual justice when it comes to Israel.

Yeah its not like they let Israel get away with war crimes

Not really. Factually, the Earth is more than capable of supporting such a population. If you are saying that you believe the current human population needs to be decreased, that is your opinion, not a fact. Same thing with your post about all religions promoting hatred against women, that's an opinion, not fact.

So its just a opinion that the bible says a woman who isn't a virgin on her wedding night must be stoned to death or that Joseph Smith created Mormonism just because he wanted to get multiple wives?

[DriveAlive]

Does that include the way animals are treated in slaughterhouses



Better



Currently, in some parts of the world yes, but we shouldn't forget that all religion promote hate and the subjugating of women.



Yeah its not like they let Israel get away with war crimes



So its just a opinion that the bible says a woman who isn't a virgin on her wedding night must be stoned to death or that Joseph Smith created Mormonism just because he wanted to get multiple wives?

As it relates to slaughterhouses, yes. The meat industry is despicable and I would love to see it abolished.

As far is Islam compared to other religions and their treatment of women, Christianity and Judaism do have many anti-women parts to their history, but that is not taught or practiced today. Islam on the other hand still teaches subjugation of women to a much greater extent than any other religion.

[Moriya]

Yes I love animals. Yes I still eat meat. That doesn't make me worse than Hitler.

[mattsmith48]

As it relates to slaughterhouses, yes. The meat industry is despicable and I would love to see it abolished.

So they should be punished with jail time? I got nothing against that.

As far is Islam compared to other religions and their treatment of women, Christianity and Judaism do have many anti-women parts to their history, but that is not taught or practiced today. Islam on the other hand still teaches subjugation of women to a much greater extent than any other religion.

''If, however, this accusation is true, and no proof of the young woman’s virginity is found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house, and there the men of her city will stone her to death.'' - Deuteronomy 22:20-21

Its not only in their history its still in there, as long as they don't come up with an updated bible they are no different then Islam.

[DriveAlive]

So they should be punished with jail time? I got nothing against that.



''If, however, this accusation is true, and no proof of the young woman’s virginity is found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house, and there the men of her city will stone her to death.'' - Deuteronomy 22:20-21

Its not only in their history its still in there, as long as they don't come up with an updated bible they are no different then Islam.

Definitely jail time.

As I said before, it is unacceptable that every religion has not done more to denounce past teachings, but Islam is the only one that actively pursues these teachings and defends their choice to do so.

[mattsmith48]

As I said before, it is unacceptable that every religion has not done more to denounce past teachings, but Islam is the only one that actively pursues these teachings and defends their choice to do so.

In a small region of the world, outside of the Middle East they are as small a minority as people from other religions teaching and promoting their medieval believes. Also I think Islam is used by leaders over there as an excuse to hate on women and gays in the same way Christianity is used in the west while it is obviously less extreme here.

[EmilyD4]

I think racism is bad. That seems to a pretty unpopular opinion these days

[mattsmith48]

I think racism is bad. That seems to a pretty unpopular opinion these days

That's so sad but true

[Spooky_Eli]

all authority is evil.

[Tim the Enchanter]

all authority is evil.

Is all evil, authority?

[PlasmaHam]

The Hulk would beat Superman in a fair fight.

[DriveAlive]

In a small region of the world, outside of the Middle East they are as small a minority as people from other religions teaching and promoting their medieval believes. Also I think Islam is used by leaders over there as an excuse to hate on women and gays in the same way Christianity is used in the west while it is obviously less extreme here.

Except for women being required to wear head scarves and hijabs or having to be deferential to men.

[mattsmith48]

The Hulk would beat Superman in a fair fight.

Does a fair fight include the Hulk having a sword and shield made entirely of Kryptonite?

Except for women being required to wear head scarves and hijabs or having to be deferential to men.

That's an exception to what?

[sqishy]

I replied to a thread like this sometime in 2016, but it's been a while so no loss for me to go again.


0 : Technological progress is amoral ( not immoral ) ; progression of technology means progressive manipulation of ( at least ) the material realm for ability to achieve certain ranges of desires with greater and greater efficiency or ease . The effects of these desires are magnified . This reaches from subatomic physics testing , to nuclear power , to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki , to Zyklon B mass murder , to chemotherapy , and so on. We should not fear technology , but we should be seriously aware what malevolence our own minds may bring to technology .


1 : The World Trade Center towers 1 , 2 , and 7 collapsed in 2001.09.11 through some form of controlled demolition . These structures were specifically overengineered to withstand multiple plane impacts with hypothetical preexisting loss of most of their structure . The admittedly overused phrase " jet fuel does not melt steel beams " has some truth to it .


2 : The optimal date format should be YYYY.MM.DD , just like with any metric numerical measurement . This also resolves the tiring conflict of ambiguity between the US and European date format .


3 : You can be a theist without being religious. Think of theism and religion here as analogous to exercise and sport .


4 : Legally enforced gender pronouns beyond some singular form of 'they' is excessive , and a violation of linguistic freedom . This problem is irrelevant to actual personal impressions of transgender people, and should be seen as such . ( For the record , I am not transphobic . )


5 : Transgender people are not biologically the sex they align their psychological / social presentation toward . This is why they are termed transgender . Trans females are not male in every way cisgender females are . Again , this is NOT transphobic - there can be full legal recognition of the wishes of transgenders without entering the nonsensical territory of rejection of biological realism / essentalism . Sports significantly highlighting trends of physiological differences between males and females ( most of them ) should thus have sex categories based on physiology rather than psychological identification . Trans females have been known to massively outperform cis females in certain competitions for their hormonal differences .


6 : Sexual attraction toward children and teenagers is not an immoral action , despite the clear serious immorality of acting those desires out - it is the sexual action toward children and teenagers that is what is immoral . There is hypocrisy in some of the LGBT 'community' in sometimes wishing death upon those who speak out about these physiological drives . Actual 'practicing' pedophiles should feel whatever justified force of the law they deserve ; 'inactive' but at-risk pedophiles should have optional or mandatory ( depending on context ) permanent chemical or physical castration being applied to them .


7 : Both liberals and conservatives are needed for an optimally functional society . Political tribalism is a greatly suboptimal state of affairs that mostly bring about , at best , short-scale emotional gratification and/or suffering between and within these factions . A liberal worldview positively correlates as a trend with someone's personality having a high percentile in the axis 'openness to experience' ( in the Big Five personality metric model ) and having a low percentile in the axis 'conscientiousness' . Conservative worldviews positively correlate with low Openness and high Conscientiousness . As with many things , some people can have high or low percentiles in both , but those two axes negatively correlate all the same .

Liberals prefer change and find exploration for alternative angles on Reality as fulfilling ; conservatives prefer stasis and maintenance of known familiar angles on Reality . A society is a means of optimally sustaining the quality and quantity of human life in a population , and it is created from finite resources in an infinite Reality . Members of a society need to know what is worth keeping in the social structure and what requires alteration or removal . The destination of optimal humanity is better seen as journey of processes . No system maps Reality perfectly , yet we need some system to navigate anything . No actions done in present contexts will be exactly replicable forever into the future , yet there is surprising reliability to many traditions . This is why functional societies need both liberals and conservatives .


8 : Antitheism is articulate belief in the absence of any God or other godform . This is a categorical subset of , but crucially distinct from , atheism , which is the lack of articulate belief in the presence of any God or other godform .
Some antitheists can have similar senses of dogma and extremist manifestations like some of their ideologically-inverse-but-pragmatically-alike extremist theists .


9 : Some hallucinogens like psilocybin and DMT are being legally restricted out of irrational fear or prejudice by the western world far more than they should be . They have the potential for great psychological benefit if treated in the right manner and with cautiously optimistic clinical trials . Antipsychotics like many SSRI antidepressants may be excessively prescribed ; like most psychiatric and some physiological medications , symptoms are managed by the medications , not the causes of those symptoms . Psychotherapy in conjunction with psychiatric medication may be the optimal template for managing some mental illnesses .


I'll leave it at this for now .

[Spooky_Eli]

Is all evil, authority?

hahaha, no.

[Vlerchan]

Opinions that are unpopular on VT:

[1] Our rights to speech, association and the control of our own bodies are inalienable and exist independent of enforcement.

[2] Elitism is both defensible and desirable. It is moral to direct societies recourses towards the development of a few Great Men at the cost of greater levels of inequality.

[3] Hereditarian institutions can perform an important check on the powers of government.

[4] There are few justifiable zoning initiative's.

[5] High-skill immigration should be unrestricted. Low-skill immigration should be much less restricted.

[6] Global free trade is undoubtedly optimal.

[7] Janet Yellen is one of the most underrated figured of the 21st century.

[8] George H. W. Bush is the most underrated president of the 20th century.

[9] Franklin D Roosevelt is the most overrated president of the 21st century.

[ibstudent]

Unpopular Opinions
Not all of Germany in WWII were bad people, take Erwin Rommel for example
Concorde was a great plane put to death by a fluke
Same applies to the space shuttle really
NASA is bad since the Government runs it, no it really isn't
Classical music is bad, also no, just no, need some inspiration? Try Holst: The Planets Jupiter. Better than most popular songs
Sorry for rambling on

[Drewboyy]

Dunkin' > Starbucks is a fact