View Full Version : What If: An American Rebellion
PlasmaHam
March 12th, 2018, 12:10 AM
Imagine that tomorrow there was a major uprising against the American Federal Government. Don't worry about the causes, that is irrelevant, all you need to know that the government has become so unpopular and tyrannical that a considerable portion (~25% initially) of the population feels an active need to directly rebel and attempt to overthrow the government. The remaining population has split sympathies between the rebels and the government. The US Government has long lost most of it's foreign allies, with the few remaining refusing to directly involve themselves in this American Rebellion.
Given all this, the question is now how far this rebellion would go, and what are some of the possible outcomes?
Uniquemind
March 12th, 2018, 04:54 AM
Imagine that tomorrow there was a major uprising against the American Federal Government. Don't worry about the causes, that is irrelevant, all you need to know that the government has become so unpopular and tyrannical that a considerable portion (~25% initially) of the population feels an active need to directly rebel and attempt to overthrow the government. The remaining population has split sympathies between the rebels and the government. The US Government has long lost most of it's foreign allies, with the few remaining refusing to directly involve themselves in this American Rebellion.
Given all this, the question is now how far this rebellion would go, and what are some of the possible outcomes?
It doesn’t the general public is all about electronics and so a small percentage know how to live roughly without technology so the rebels remain a small fractured group well armed but ultimately ending in failure.
Stronk Serb
March 12th, 2018, 11:25 AM
Well, if the government is so tyrannical, it means that it would have no quarrel crushing the rebellion. They might even start by napalming rebel strongholds.
ShineintheDark
March 12th, 2018, 12:57 PM
Straight up massacre. If foreign nations refuse to take part then I see no reason why the US government would not drone strike those who choose to rebel against it and send in the troops to weed out and finish those who survive. If anything, it'd be more effective than Afghanistan or Iraq or even Vietnam because those troops would know the layout and the streets and they would have no issues in knowing how best to control the local populations since they are US citizens themselves.
mattsmith48
March 12th, 2018, 01:53 PM
The rebels would maybe last 20 minutes, 30 for the ones running away and trying to climb the wall to escape to Mexico.
Dmaxd123
March 12th, 2018, 04:02 PM
My personal thoughts on that type of rebellion depends upon who is doing the rebelling.
if it's made up of the more generally far left side that doesn't feel the need/desire for guns the rebellion won't last long
if it's made up of the general far right that may own multiple weapons each, I think the rebellion could last quite a bit longer.
I think those that are more center or slightly off to one side or the other will be the wildcards.
However the second wildcard is what do the members of the military feel about the reason for the rebellion. If it's strong enough to get the far right up in arms against the government there may be quite a few members of the military joining suit which would increase the rebels and decrease the government's power. The military does take an oath to protect against enemies foreign and domestic
lliam
March 12th, 2018, 04:05 PM
Leads me to the question of whether allies of the US could legally be involved to solve domestic affairs at all.
And whether all parts of the military apparatus are loyal to the government. In case of total tyrannical governments, I doubt it.
ImagineRepublicCity
March 15th, 2018, 06:10 PM
It is very very easy to finish a war unethically (ironic that this implies there's ethical wars lmao) in modern day times by dropping nuclear bombs. You may kill some innocents here and there but hey look you saved yourself. It doesn't matter how many weapons you own, because it'll realistically do nothing.
So if people try to argue that guns are necessary in case of a rebellion against the government, they are delusional.
abcdeqwe
March 15th, 2018, 06:17 PM
Obama for life!
samuel15
March 15th, 2018, 07:01 PM
a lot of people would die and it would be mayham until the un and canda steps in and reforms the Nations which are now no longer United.
Tim the Enchanter
March 16th, 2018, 12:30 AM
Make America Great Again haha
lliam
March 16th, 2018, 03:57 AM
until the un and canda steps in and reforms the.
really?
If it would happen tomorrow, Prime Minister Trudeau would offer political asylum in Quebec to the UN and say: "We apologize for all the inconvenience caused by some unstable elements in our dear neighbor's garden.
For aesthetic reasons, we will build a wall along our property's borders, high enough so you don't have to endure the sight of chaos beyond the property line. For which I apologize on behalf of Canada one time more.
Please take a cookie." :D
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samuel15
March 16th, 2018, 04:29 AM
Please take a cookie." :D
I will, thank you so much and I believe you have a point :)
lliam
March 16th, 2018, 01:04 PM
samuel15 - I now apologize in due form to have had this point when I posted it in my last post such point-based what made you believing in I having a point. (sorry for any inconvenience - just training for canadian citizenship).
samuel15
March 16th, 2018, 02:37 PM
samuel15 - I now apologize in due form to have had this point when I posted it in my last post such point-based what made you believing in I having a point. (sorry for any inconvenience - just training for canadian citizenship).
You are forgiven :)
NewLeafsFan
March 16th, 2018, 11:39 PM
Generally, I rebellions like the one that you are speaking of, it doesn't stop until either the military stops it, or the government is entirely overthrown. Historically, overthrowing a government has not ended well. Often with dictators taking over with or without backing from the population.
imanopenbook
April 1st, 2018, 09:28 AM
It would be complete chaos in the US if that would happen. And it would cause chaos all over the world too. The financial markets would be shattered.
For the military part if it got so bad that there was a threat of civil war, I think the armed forces would be split as well since they are made up of citizens. But overall I think the armed forces would win out since they have A TON more firepower than the average citizen. There is no way a citizen militia can win against fighter jets, bombers, drones, tanks, and all the other things in an army.
I think the UN would only go in as peacekeepers because the UN doesn't have an actual army.
Canada would be flooded with refugees and we would gladly take them all.
mattsmith48
April 1st, 2018, 10:13 AM
Canada would be flooded with refugees and we would gladly take them all.
The US would have to build a wall to keep people in
Dalcourt
April 1st, 2018, 11:40 AM
I don't have an opinion on this since I never pondered on stuff like that but I asked my best friend what she thinks. She said she doesn't care what happens to the rest of the US but she would try to found a group to revoke the Louisiana purchase and unify this part of the country with France and as a result of this become part of the EU.
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