View Full Version : Is gender fluid a mental illness?
HighStandards
January 20th, 2018, 10:21 AM
I was told that being gender fluid is a mental illness and am honestly too scared to fact check this.
Sailor Mars
January 20th, 2018, 11:19 AM
Your gender identity and your sexual orientation are not mental illnesses.
NeonBlueButterfly
January 20th, 2018, 02:33 PM
Whoever told you that being gender fluid is a mental illness is wrong. Your gender identity is yours, and you have every right to it.
Just JT
January 20th, 2018, 04:53 PM
Told what the fuck!?
No....somebody lied to you
And that’s that
jamie_n5
January 20th, 2018, 07:21 PM
Gender Fluid is a gender identity best described as a dynamic mix of boy and girl. A person who is Gender Fluid may always feel like a mix of the two traditional genders, but may feel more boy some days, and more girl other days.
Being Gender Fluid has nothing to do with which set of genitalia one has, nor their sexual orientation.
I am sure that you will find yourself some day. Maybe you simply are Bi.
Harrier
January 20th, 2018, 07:25 PM
I'm not a big fan of the "fluid" terminology. I mean can I tell my mom that my grades are fluid? Can I tell my coach that my effort or my points per game are fluid? Can I tell my teachers me being in my seat before the bell rings is fluid? Can I tell the police my car's speedometer is fluid?
That said. You decide what your sexuality is. If you think you have to change it. Or want to change it go for it.
skittlesh
January 21st, 2018, 04:19 AM
I think it is a weird one because it has many symptoms of a mental illness I think the thing with gender is living as the gender you aren’t damages your mental health therefore isn’t you being in a healthy state the ‘cure’ for this though isn’t changing your mind it’s changing your body to sustain your mental health (hope I got my message across without offending anyone please say if I have, I don’t believe they are mental illnesses but being dysphoric Damages your mental health ye)
Max the Disenchanter
January 29th, 2018, 11:15 PM
it deviates from the norm.
PlasmaHam
January 29th, 2018, 11:19 PM
Yes.
Uniquemind
January 30th, 2018, 03:14 AM
Because I believe in reincarnation I have a completely different view on gender and gender-sexual identity issues.
lliam
January 30th, 2018, 04:48 AM
TYou decide what your sexuality is. If you think you have to change it. Or want to change it go for it.
This reminds me of an argument from parents who said to their gay son, "You are a sinner. You have decided to be gay. God would never create something like you!"
We can't choose our sexual orientation. So we can't change it arbitrarily, but learn to deal with it, accept it ... and, depending on the level of new realization of a certain orientation, reassign it ... if it is such important to us.
Personally, I wouldn't even define it for myself, just give it a shrug and say to my reflection, "Hello, Me - I'm just what I am. Have a nice life."
Harrier
January 30th, 2018, 05:57 PM
I'm not a big fan of the "fluid" terminology. I mean can I tell my mom that my grades are fluid? Can I tell my coach that my effort or my points per game are fluid? Can I tell my teachers me being in my seat before the bell rings is fluid? Can I tell the police my car's speedometer is fluid?
That said. You decide what your sexuality is. If you think you have to change it. Or want to change it go for it.
This reminds me of an argument from parents who said to their gay son, "You are a sinner. You have decided to be gay. God would never create something like you!"
We can't choose our sexual orientation. So we can't change it arbitrarily, but learn to deal with it, accept it ... and, depending on the level of new realization of a certain orientation, reassign it ... if it is such important to us.
Personally, I wouldn't even define it for myself, just give it a shrug and say to my reflection, "Hello, Me - I'm just what I am. Have a nice life."
You missed my point I think. Not telling the OP He has to decide what to call himself or decide he has to change his orientation to please his parents. What I am saying is we ALL have decisions to make every day. You decide who you sleep with. It IS a decision. What I was saying is if one day you call yourself gay. Then AWESOME. If the next day you want to be straight. AWESOME. You Be You!!!
lliam
January 30th, 2018, 08:10 PM
You missed my point I think. It IS a decision. What I was saying is if one day you call yourself gay. Then AWESOME. If the next day you want to be straight. AWESOME.
I think I already understood what you mean. But I decided to point out that it does not change the fact that you remain what you are.
You decide that straight is your thing ... so you say you're straight and you're trying to live it. But if you are really gay, you stay gay. You also have to accept certain limits somewhere.
You Be You!!!
- I like that. -
Basically, I think everyone should try to live that. It could end almost all problems with gender crisis, sexual orientations, and such.
No one needed to define themselves any more. Or wondering what he or she is. I guess most peeps often do that only in a context that exists in ones own social environment, which kinda dictates what is normal and and what isn't.
It may not protect individuals from wondering what they are anyway, but it could eventually help them to survive puberty and life a bit more chilled.
Elysium
January 30th, 2018, 09:02 PM
I think "mental illness" is kind of a subjective term. I think of depression and anxiety as very real mental illnesses, but a good friend of mine who comes from a very different culture doesn't think of them as "real". Besides, the term "mental illness" has a negative connotation. Deviations from the norm don't have to be inherently negative and that's an important thing to consider. So, what you call it really depends on context, society, culture, etc. etc.
That said, gender fluidity is pretty widely observed - not uncommon, not unheard of, just treated very differently from culture to culture. What you call it is subject to the culture.
Personally, I don't think of gender fluidity as something unnatural or wrong.
Harrier
January 30th, 2018, 10:33 PM
I'm not a big fan of the "fluid" terminology. I mean can I tell my mom that my grades are fluid? Can I tell my coach that my effort or my points per game are fluid? Can I tell my teachers me being in my seat before the bell rings is fluid? Can I tell the police my car's speedometer is fluid?
That said. You decide what your sexuality is. If you think you have to change it. Or want to change it go for it.
I think I already understood what you mean. But I decided to point out that it does not change the fact that you remain what you are.
You decide that straight is your thing ... so you say you're straight and you're trying to live it. But if you are really gay, you stay gay. You also have to accept certain limits somewhere.
- I like that. -
Basically, I think everyone should try to live that. It could end almost all problems with gender crisis, sexual orientations, and such.
No one needed to define themselves any more. Or wondering what he or she is. I guess most peeps often do that only in a context that exists in ones own social environment, which kinda dictates what is normal and and what isn't.
It may not protect individuals from wondering what they are anyway, but it could eventually help them to survive puberty and life a bit more chilled.
I think "mental illness" is kind of a subjective term. I think of depression and anxiety as very real mental illnesses, but a good friend of mine who comes from a very different culture doesn't think of them as "real". Besides, the term "mental illness" has a negative connotation. Deviations from the norm don't have to be inherently negative and that's an important thing to consider. So, what you call it really depends on context, society, culture, etc. etc.
That said, gender fluidity is pretty widely observed - not uncommon, not unheard of, just treated very differently from culture to culture. What you call it is subject to the culture.
Personally, I don't think of gender fluidity as something unnatural or wrong.
I agree with both of you. I'm just not a big fan of the term fluidity. Idk why we make words up. We can't or don't have fluidity in anything else in society. It's sorta starting to enter the realm of politics. But barely. Why just sexuality. Makes no sense. It's not rational.
Elysium
January 30th, 2018, 11:32 PM
I agree with both of you. I'm just not a big fan of the term fluidity. Idk why we make words up. We can't or don't have fluidity in anything else in society. It's sorta starting to enter the realm of politics. But barely. Why just sexuality. Makes no sense. It's not rational.
I guess because it's not quantifiable or otherwise easily definable? But yeah, like I kind of mentioned, it's just semantics. What we call "gender fluid," you might say Native Americans referred to as "two-spirit." Etc.
azurzg
January 31st, 2018, 12:11 PM
it deviates from the norm.
So does being very smart!
Your gender identity and your sexual orientation are not mental illnesses.
Let me echo this one more time. Gender identity and sexual orientation are not mental illnesses.
My gender identity is simple. I'm a boy and I've never felt a need to be anything else.
However, my sexual orientation is fluid. I am attracted to both girls and boys. There have been times in my life when I was attracted to only girls, there was a brief period of my life when I though I was mostly attracted to boys. Right now, I like both about the same.
Posts merged, use the multi quote button next time. ~Mars
Southern_Cheer
February 10th, 2018, 06:04 PM
I am not really sure what gender fluid is. My daddy always said that God made you either a man or a woman that was it.
I'm on here right now trying to figure this all out for myslef but im a little confused. Can i get some help
maybe i picked the wrong theed to start off in
SilverSM
February 10th, 2018, 06:21 PM
I am not really sure what gender fluid is. My daddy always said that God made you either a man or a woman that was it.
I'm on here right now trying to figure this all out for myslef but im a little confused. Can i get some help
maybe i picked the wrong theed to start off in
Alright chica, gender fluid means that some days u feel more like a girl, others u feel like a boy. It's not a matter if you have a penis or vagina its more of what you feel mentally, at least as far as i know.
and figure yourself out, look at thread you think can help you, its not bad to ask questions.
As for if gender fluid a mental illness...
see the way i was raised it a catholic latino perspective. I personally do not agree with all the gender stuff, (transgender, gender fluid, etc) but I don't trash people who are that, and I have many friends who are those things.
I honestly don't know what i think on the matter but I feel like its more of a personality developement, the same way how. Basically I think its a mental thing but not neccessarily an illness
NewLeafsFan
February 14th, 2018, 01:50 AM
No, it is a sexuality
Uniquemind
February 17th, 2018, 02:00 AM
My view is that gender identity and sexuality orientation issues are a result of both brain and endocrine system differences as well as a spiritual residual memory of incarnating as past lives in either gender.
It is true the species is designed to be majority female and male, however the formation of the human body from genetic instructions along the DNA and RNA as the embryo forms can also have extreme variation in expression.
It can either be from a series of mutation, environmental pollution that messes with the endocrine system, or traumatic events that shape the brains wiring to accept or reject which direction the psychosocial-sexual identity forms. Some people at a soul level prefer to express themselves in life as liking one gender or the other or possessing a particular type of vessel (male or female) and some are assigned to experience one side or the other by a higher order.
But one thing it is NOT, is that it is NOT A CHOICE and you are born that way, this is where most of the Abrahamic faiths are ignorant and have created a toxic atmosphere where bullying has flourished.
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I will end my post here as I understand what I said above is controversial but I hope it is not offensive, but it is how I see things on these issues as well as addressing why modern science can't seem to grasp the answers.
Sexuality has always had a spiritual overlap component, and you see this across many cultures, which is why ancient artifacts do depict sexually graphic artwork and idols.
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To further my point we know that if one were to surgically remove a man's testicles, without modern hormonal supplements they become more feminine.
If one were to surgically remove a woman's ovaries, they would become somewhat more masculine without hormonal drugs.
My point is the body is a vessel, a biological machine, whereby inhabiting it, it is earthly society that then projects the standards and then the judgments of what is valued or devalued.
But do not buy into those standards, remember where you come from. Gender is illusion.
Now you know partly why I declare my gender as an unending eternal circle in my profile.
wolfeman
February 25th, 2018, 06:15 PM
I was told that being gender fluid is a mental illness and am honestly too scared to fact check this.
No, it's not. There are plenty of people who are genderfluid. I've looked it up before, and there were some native american cultures who recognized people who were genderfluid or were a "third gender"
I really think that gender and sexuality are both a little bit fluid for most people... more than people want to admit. I mean a lot of it how a person is born, but a lot of it is us trying to push ourselves into some rigid definition of what male or female is supposed to mean.
Don't be afraid to do research. Just be sure to use private browsing or clear your history after you're done if you have intolerant people living with you.
Can I tell the police my car's speedometer is fluid?
No, because how fast you're going can get someone else killed. Being true to the gender you are won't.
That said. You decide what your sexuality is. If you think you have to change it. Or want to change it go for it.
I don't remember making a decision to be attracted to one gender/sex or another. Does anyone?
Bleppo
March 22nd, 2018, 02:19 PM
Definitely not a mental illness
TWDjacob
March 25th, 2018, 03:57 PM
Nope it's not a mental illness at all it's more of just something you feel with in yourself
Naters2000
March 25th, 2018, 07:22 PM
Most certainly not. Being gender fluid is who you are and how you were born. It isn’t a mental illness.
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