CONSPIRACY: Did Hitler really commit suicide?

[NewLeafsFan]

I've always been one of those people that just completely buys into whatever my history textbook says. But recently I started doing a bit more research into a few of the more common conspiracies. The main one that has caught my interest is if Hitler actually committed suicide with Ava Braun in his bunker?

Reasons to Believe that Hitler survived World War II:
(All confirmed by multiple sources)

1. The original death announcement was made by the Nazis
2. Soviets found his body double dead, confirmed it wasn't him and then found another body and claimed this one was him
3. Report surfaced that Soviet Dictator Stalin told US yrs later that he was unsure if the body was Hitler's
4. US has a huge FBI file on Hitler's apparent disappearance
5. In 2011, corpse that was supposedly Hitler's is confirmed to be a female
6. A woman in Brazil has published a book claiming Hitler was her neighbour
7. Many top Nazis escaped to Argentina on a submarine, why wouldn't Hitler have joined them?

This is a link to FBI files that have been released: https://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf-hitler-part-01-of-04/view
Many of these are reported spottings of Hitler in the USA

Let me know what you guys think.

[Fritz]

I've always been one of those people that just completely buys into whatever my history textbook says. But recently I started doing a bit more research into a few of the more common conspiracies. The main one that has caught my interest is if Hitler actually committed suicide with Ava Braun in his bunker?

Reasons to Believe that Hitler survived World War II:
(All confirmed by multiple sources)

1. The original death announcement was made by the Nazis
2. Soviets found his body double dead, confirmed it wasn't him and then found another body and claimed this one was him
3. Report surfaced that Soviet Dictator Stalin told US yrs later that he was unsure if the body was Hitler's
4. US has a huge FBI file on Hitler's apparent disappearance
5. In 2011, corpse that was supposedly Hitler's is confirmed to be a female
6. A woman in Argentina has published a book claiming Hitler was her neighbour
7. Many top Nazis escaped to Argentina on a submarine, why wouldn't Hitler have joined them?

Let me know what you guys think.

Lets think this through, would it really matter if he lived or not? By now he'd be dead and gone anyway

[NewLeafsFan]

Lets think this through, would it really matter if he lived or not? By now he'd be dead and gone anyway

Yes, he obviously would be dead by now anyway. I would be very upset if it came out that Hitler was alive, it was well known by world leaders, and they did nothing about it.

[lliam]

I would be very upset if it came out that Hitler was alive, it was well known by world leaders, and they did nothing about it.


You would not be alone with that. That would actually be a real conspiracy. That's for sure. Presumably it would also be revealed that Hitler was an Illuminati and his colleagues Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin too.

In addition, we would learn that Hitler was the black sheep of that Illuminati club, who too early implemented the club's secret plans, endangering the Illuminati and causing his colleagues to do anything to bring him down.

But since Illuminati aren't allowed to kill each other, he instead was kidnapped from the Fuehrer bunker and got drugged for the rest of his life and was hidden from the public in a secret lunatic asylum. :D



Personally, I presume he commited suicide just because fortunately his plans didn't work out and he didnt want to surrender to Allied jurisdiction ... and that's simply because a public trial was an absolute humiliation for him.


This certainly corresponds to the perpetrator profile of an average psychopathic criminal. And he was no more, even though his crimes cost millions of lives.



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Therefore, I think, as funny as conspiracy theories are, we enhance this criminal just by developping such theories.


I also like to extend this to more serious theories of some historians, criminologists, psychologists, etc., who are dealing with Hitler as a phenomenon or such.

Personally, I think it would be much fairer to the millions of victims if the Nazi crimes were not given the name of the main responsible of the Holcaust - but also include all the other idiots without whom Hitler never could have realized such a crime on humanity. He wasn't the only one. He was one of hundreds ... if not thousands.

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[mattsmith48]

I've always been one of those people that just completely buys into whatever my history textbook says. But recently I started doing a bit more research into a few of the more common conspiracies. The main one that has caught my interest is if Hitler actually committed suicide with Ava Braun in his bunker?

Reasons to Believe that Hitler survived World War II:
(All confirmed by multiple sources)

1. The original death announcement was made by the Nazis
2. Soviets found his body double dead, confirmed it wasn't him and then found another body and claimed this one was him
3. Report surfaced that Soviet Dictator Stalin told US yrs later that he was unsure if the body was Hitler's
4. US has a huge FBI file on Hitler's apparent disappearance
5. In 2011, corpse that was supposedly Hitler's is confirmed to be a female
6. A woman in Brazil has published a book claiming Hitler was her neighbour
7. Many top Nazis escaped to Argentina on a submarine, why wouldn't Hitler have joined them?

This is a link to FBI files that have been released: https://vault.fbi.gov/adolf-hitler/adolf-hitler-part-01-of-04/view
Many of these are reported spottings of Hitler in the USA

Let me know what you guys think.

Someone saying I saw it, doesn't prove anything and shouldn't be taken seriously, people have written books about being abducted by aliens, it doesn't prove anything either. This is like people thinking that the JFK assassination was an inside job, people just can't accept that even these important and powerful people can be taken down so easily, one by suicide and the other by a lone gunman. Hitler was 56 when he died, even if somehow he escaped the Soviets he probably didn't live that long after anyway and obviously didn't do anything after escaping.

[Stronk Serb]

Let's assume he did escape, the Soviet, Israeli, American and British intelligence servises would literally be racing to catch him, sort of like the space race. Both blocs wanted to prove that "their's is bigger". The race would devolve to that. They would catch him and execute him. Unlike other Nazis, he was the man himself meaning he would be drawing much mire attention to himself and requiring him to lay low until he dies. Literally to hide in a hole.

Now, that he is dead, there are eyewitness accounts, there were investigations, most of which concluded that he killed himself.

[ShineintheDark]

I very much doubt that Hitler actually survived WWII but I too bring up the question as to why it's really that important. Hitler himself wasn't that important to the wider picture, Nazi Germany was. One angry little man couldn't threaten anyone. For both the UK and USA in the West and the USSR in the East, their main threat was indeed the central Axis power and, with that gone, they could go about their wider plans. Whether Hitler was truly alive or not, the Cold War would still have initiated and the Red Army would have swiftly found and executed him anyways.

[Sailor Mars]

The real question is, was he alive in the first place?

[TheMagicPotato]

The real question is: Was he even real in the first place?

[Martainfey96]

He definitely commited suicide, there was no way for him to survive the blasts taken to his bunker.

[Sword of the morning]

I doubt he survived, If he did I doubt he would go live in Brazil and be a quite old man for the rest of his life. I think if he lived he would have tried again to concure the world. If he did live it wouldn't be a big deal anymore he would be dead by now.

[NewLeafsFan]

He definitely commited suicide, there was no way for him to survive the blasts taken to his bunker.

Tbh, I am not familiar with what happened to the bunker at the end of the war. But at the time of his supposed suicide, he hadn't made public appearances in almost a week. He could have been long gone on a submarine.

Let's assume he did escape, the Soviet, Israeli, American and British intelligence servises would literally be racing to catch him, sort of like the space race. Both blocs wanted to prove that "their's is bigger". The race would devolve to that. They would catch him and execute him. Unlike other Nazis, he was the man himself meaning he would be drawing much mire attention to himself and requiring him to lay low until he dies. Literally to hide in a hole.

Now, that he is dead, there are eyewitness accounts, there were investigations, most of which concluded that he killed himself.

The main corpse that the Sovitets believed was his was not disproven until 2011. Maybe many world leaders at the time assumed that he was dead.

[Tim the Enchanter]

No, he went to Antarctica with his space UFOs lol.

[Jinglebottom]

Hitler is obviously hiding in Patagonia.

[NewLeafsFan]

No, he went to Antarctica with his space UFOs lol.

Hitler is obviously hiding in Patagonia.

Debating is about people discussing there views try to prove or disprove an argument. The only thing that you've offered to the argument is sarcasm. Very helpful.

[Shiny Moon]

I've read before that many Nazis ran away to South America, including Hitler. He would be dead by now anyway, but it's still interesting.

[lliam]

Although Hitler had no kids, descendants of Hitler's relatives still live in the US (unless they are now dead).

It seems, there's a family cemetery somewhere in the US, where just people are buried with the surname Hitler. Maybe A.H. secretly was buried among them.

got it from a documentary about dudes with the surname Hitler living in the US.


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[rohancool]

He did it seems. However, it is believed that his body was recovered and was kept in Soviet custody till late 1960s. After that they completely destroyed it.

[lliam]

Ah, I got that in serveral languages ... it's believed ... By time, every time it sounds more and more very religious. :D

[Sweeney05]

I wouldn't be surprised if he did survive WWII. He was known to have look-a-likes hired to help prevent him from getting assassinated. He'd even have plastic surgery performed on these people to make them look more like him. He could've used one of them to fake his suicide... I could go on all day with Hitler conspiracies, but I'll stop there; and don't even get me startef on JFK.

[mattsmith48]

I wouldn't be surprised if he did survive WWII. He was known to have look-a-likes hired to help prevent him from getting assassinated. He'd even have plastic surgery performed on these people to make them look more like him. He could've used one of them to fake his suicide... I could go on all day with Hitler conspiracies, but I'll stop there; and don't even get me startef on JFK.

JFK? Really?

Dictators use to have multiple body doubles to fool potential treats, but no ones is asking if Stalin really died in 1952, well with all the Internet conspiracy theorists out there they is probably someone, but they are very rare. These Hitler conspiracies are solely based on random eye witnesses and mishandling of the situation by the Russians. Not different of the Roswell alien crash where conspiracists use the incompetence of the military to discredit the official story, an official story that makes a lot of sense and explain everything better than any alternative those idiots can come up with.

[NewLeafsFan]

JFK? Really?

Dictators use to have multiple body doubles to fool potential treats, but no ones is asking if Stalin really died in 1952, well with all the Internet conspiracy theorists out there they is probably someone, but they are very rare. These Hitler conspiracies are solely based on random eye witnesses and mishandling of the situation by the Russians. Not different of the Roswell alien crash where conspiracists use the incompetence of the military to discredit the official story, an official story that makes a lot of sense and explain everything better than any alternative those idiots can come up with.

Did you only read one reply to this post? There was a lot more evidence provided. Perhaps you didn't have an answer to shoot this conspiracy theory down.

[mattsmith48]

Did you only read one reply to this post? There was a lot more evidence provided. Perhaps you didn't have an answer to shoot this conspiracy theory down.

What reply? Youre the first one to reply to that post.

[NewLeafsFan]

What reply? Youre the first one to reply to that post.

This is a post that I created. I quoted your reply.

[mattsmith48]

This is a post that I created. I quoted your reply.

So what evidence do you want me to disprove?

[NewLeafsFan]

So what evidence do you want me to disprove?

If you read the original post, you would know

[mattsmith48]

If you read the original post, you would know

And I said someone saying I saw it, doesn't prove anything and shouldn't be taken seriously, as for the Russian part of your ''evidence'' its just mishandling of the situation by the solders taken to justify what is simply speculation. When you have real evidence let me know.

[lliam]

Or you take it seriously until the opposite is confirmed.



btw: a heavenly conspiration theory (AHCT):

In the case of Hitler you also could claim that your great-grandfather reported during your last séance-session, he saw Hitler playing golf with Peter.

Apparently, all those who credibly repent, are forgiven in heaven, even if they are pretenders.

But the Central Council of Jews in God's Heavenly Kingdom urges vehemently to deport Hitler into Catholic hell. Which commonly is known as the worst part of Hell.

The official press angel of the heavenly administration said: For Hitler, it is rather true hell to have to shout 24/6 hours Hallelujah during the week, than to sauna with Catholic priests and popes in hot lava 24/7.

[boy05]

I think if he hadn't died, the west would have gone on hunting him down